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Playstation 2 Outsells both Xbox and Gamecube
Laurens writes "Despite various claims of both Microsoft and Nintendo, this article by the Los Angeles Times has the first independant salesfigures on all 3 next-gen consoles. And it seems the good ol' PS2 sold best this holiday season." I'm an hour into FFX and don't foresee turning my PS2 off much this week. Can't talk now. Must see Lord of the
Rings, and then play more FFX. Is this a great time to be alive, or what?
from the Well-duh! dept.
I bet this is not "First Post."
Don't assume that local availability equates to a national shortage. Personally, I've been haunting the Houston game stores in search of Dreamcast bargains, and with the exception of Thanksgiving weekend, every store has been well-stocked with both Game Cubes and XBoxen. I've seen people put them back on the shelf due to the shortage of games to actually play on these consoles. That is steering folks to the PS2.
One has been out for over a year, while the other two have had 2 months? Re-do this survey in a year, it's pointless. Right now, non gaming people (aka grandparents who buy stuff for grandkids, etc) have had way more advertising exposure to PS2 than any other system... They don't care about specs, they care about what they think is good (based on what they see on TV, and what they remember their kids asking for 6 months to a year ago...) so of course there will be more ps2's sold. Wait a year, and I'll bet my right arm that Microsoft will be winning the console war (in units sold, anyway)...
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Sony sold 962,000 PlayStation 2 consoles between Nov. 11 and Dec. 8, according to CSFB estimates based on figures compiled by research firm NPDFunworld. Microsoft, which launched Xbox on Nov. 15, sold 934,000 consoles. The GameCube, introduced Nov. 18, sold 602,000.
So let me get this straight, in this random, particular time period, Sony outsold GameCube and Xbox. Hmmm. First of all, it seems like the article is referring to actual sales to individuals, not sales to vendors. I'm not 100% sure but I've always thought the companies make their statements by how many items they have sold to vendors, because once the vendor buys it from Nintendo, or Microsoft, or Sony, then they've made their money.
Secondly, the most unfair thing about this article is the time period. I hate both Microsoft and their inferior Xbox, but I have to come to it's defense here, the study says Sony outsold Microsoft when in fact, according to their own results, Microsoft sold 28,000 less consoles, yet had 4 less days than Sony to do so. So basically, the Xbox was selling for 6/7 of the time the PS2 was, yet it sold at a rate of 38,917 boxes per day as compared to 34,357 PS2s per day.
Lastly, as for Nintendo's case, I just flat out don't believe those numbers. I talked to the local Best Buy and also to a few electronics stores in the mall just out of curiosity, and they say they've sold more Gamecubes than anything, but they've also had more shipments of Gamecubes, so they haven't sold out. This really all is just nitt-picking though because the fact of the matter is that PS2 is crap. They put together a pile of crap as fast as possible and released it first, and it's earned a lot of money, but it's still crap. The Xbox is made by Microsoft, that's all I have to say to know that it's a big pile of horse dung. So, we're left with GameCube, and despite it's "kiddy" reputation, I find it to be the best game console. In time, that's what consumers will see, and the numbers will show it. Right now articles like this are just acting as tools of the establishment.
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WHO FUCKING CARES?
Fucking buy the console you like, play the fucking games you like, and be happy!
Merry fucking Christmas.
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I bought a PSX in 1998 for Gran Turismo after having seen my cousin play it. I was a rabid Nintendo fanboy at the time and promised myself the PSX was acceptable because it played a transcendent game. I wind up buying over 40 PSX games.
Fast-forward to October 2000. I pick up a PS2 expressly for GT3 A-Spec. Which was delayed. Repeatedly. In the meantime, I grabbed Tekken Tag and swore I'd not buy anything else until GT3. I now have something like 15 PS2 games.
I didn't abandon Nintendo completely, nor become a Sony loyalist. I still grab the occasional bargain-binner for the N64 and I'm getting a Cube for Perfect Dark: Zero and Conker's. I also bought a DC a few months ago and already it's collecting games. Damn, Ferrari must've been a GATEWAY game...
Anyhoo, if you can't tell, it's all about the games.
GTRacer
- Will import GTC if need be
Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
Congratulations on not thinking!
The article explicitly states the sales figures are for November 11 to December 8th, and the XBOX and Gamecube were launched AFTER this date.
It's hard to sell consoles that aren't launched yet.
"Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested." (LT 2004)
Xbox has about all the games the PS2 does. Hell, even an enhance FFX, MGS2"X", GTA3 and all the ea sports titles and everything else is coming over..
for a console barely a month old, the xbox has already 40 games to choose from.. anything form max payne, to halo, to simpsons road rage, to whatever nfl/nba game tickles your fancy..
why spend 300 bucks to run older games as well? that doesn't make sense.. thats like me buying a hi-fi vcr for 299.00 just to play a vast library of mono recordings from a single head vcr.
That was of course flamebait, but allow me to foolishly respond:
More people are living better now on this Earth than at any time in its history.
Medicine is far more advanced and plentiful than at any time in the world's history.
Uncontaminated water is more plentiful and readily available than at any time in the world's history.
Uncontaminated food is more plentiful and readily available than at any time in the world's history.
Electricity and labor-saving devices are more plentiful and readily available than at any time in the world's history.
The average life span of a human behind is higher now than at any time in the world's history.
It's a wonderful time to be a alive.
Of course people are suffering... that is always true, and always has been. But technology has made billions of lives easier and in some ways more fulfilling than ever before.
Literacy is more widely spread than ever before. The great books are more readily available to common people than ever before.
Phallic Symbols in LOTR
woah' there nelly.
My XBOX has its own line of games to. You like your stuff, I like mine.
Meanwhile, I wil get to play Silent Hill2, UFC Tapout, Blood Wake, Wreckless XB, GunValkyrie, Jet Set Radio Future, Blood Omen 2, Unreal Championship, House of the Dead 3, Crash Bandicoot - The Wrath of Cortex, Rayman Arena, SpiderMan Xbox..
Thats just a few of the announced games, not to mention Halo, Max Payne, Amped, Munch's Odysee, Project Gotham, Simpsons Road Rage, and Transworld surfing that i'm already playing.
All those games you brag about didn't come out until a YEAR after the ps2 shipped, i can only imagine what will be out on the xbox next year!