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Trojan Coffee Room Machine Returns

MKalus writes "It seems that when they turned it off it wasn't quite the end to the machine after all. The german magazine "Der Spiegel" bought it and got it repaired. And now it is online again, not in the Trojan room, but the same machine." You just can't keep a good coffee machine down.

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  1. for the lazy - translation by Andre060 · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:for the lazy - translation by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

      Egad, that translation is only a small step above "all your coffee machine are belong to us."

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    2. Re:for the lazy - translation by CatherineCornelius · · Score: 3, Troll
      Egad, that translation is only a small step above "all your coffee machine are belong to us."

      Ihre ganze Kaffeemaschine sind gehören uns

      I like it!

  2. A good Christmas present... by relayer · · Score: 2

    A good Christmas present to lighten the spirit... and I don't even drink coffee!

  3. Danke der Spiegel by xtord · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What a gift for christmas.. Bringing back the cool technology of yesterday.. danke der Spiegel.

  4. Re:okay... I must have failed Nerd history 101 but by VValdo · · Score: 5, Informative
    From what I can recall, back in the early days of the Web, some programmers in the UK (?) set up a camera so they could check via an xwindow when the coffee in the other room was done. Like the Fish cam and Jennicam, the Trojan Room coffee cam is a part of Internet history.

    The coffee machine was shut down earlier this year, but I guess it's back.

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  5. To make it perfect... by billmaly · · Score: 2, Funny

    There'd be some way to monitor who is drinking the coffe, and, most importantly, who isn't making a fresh pot when they drain it!!! Man I hate that....must be my caffeine addiction talking! Got to feed that Jones!!!

  6. Re:why not include a translation by tempmpi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe, a lot of stories written in german got posted to slashdot in the last time.

    Here is a short summary:

    The coffee machine made coffee for ten years. The first web cam made it famous, then it broke and they sold it at ebay. "Der Spiegel" payed 10452 DM for it. (about $4500)
    The coffee machine was repaired for free. Now it works again in the rooms of "Spiegel - Online".

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  7. alternate translation by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Redundant
    is available at world lingos

    as seen here:

    http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/Translate?wl_lp=DE-EN &wl_fl=2&wl_url=http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/net zkultur/0,1518,174146,00.html&wl_g_table=-3

    Although this is German, and you know how that translates to English.

    [smile]

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  8. Re:okay... I must have failed Nerd history 101 but by VValdo · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's probably a better link to it...

    The Trojan Room Coffee Pot page which links to the page I listed before. There's also a "biography" of the coffee pot here

    I totally remember loading this thing up w/ Mosaic. The shot of it being switched off is about what it looked like then-- tiny and black and white.

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  9. One day... by PureFiction · · Score: 5, Funny

    this thing is going to end up in the Smithsonian on display as a proud emblem of the geekiness of the early internet.

    Somehow I find this both amusing and disturbing. :-)

  10. Re:Sweet! by MKalus · · Score: 2

    They'll do fine. They usually brave large things like on Sept. 11 they were actually reachable while CNN and the rest tanked.

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  11. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    that's coming out next year.

    [note to self. patent the idea NOW]

    Note of interest is that apparently was the first web cam ever, and it served a pratical purpose for the geeks whom it depended on that cup of coffee.

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  12. Gee, I wonder why so few comments ... by Kevin+O'+Riordan · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the translation:

    But which one makes with an icon of the Webs?

    Throw away? Not possibly!


    I love online translators.

  13. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by Publicus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Per the /. story about its retirement. It was the first ever webcam, and it was used so people knew when there was coffee and then there wasn't. Talk about a technology stemming from a developer's itch!

    Ethernet port and built in webserver, eh? I don't see anyone stopping you, go to it man!

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  14. The story behind the coffee pot ... by ags · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those interested in the background, here is an edited Times article that I
    collected when the Coffee Pot closed down:

    WEDNESDAY MARCH 07 2001

    *First star of the Internet retires*

    BY JOANNA BALE

    THE world's first Internet star is retiring after ten years in the
    spotlight.

    The unlikely star is a £40 coffee percolator that made its debut in front
    of the camera when computer scientists at Cambridge University became
    frustrated at walking down several flights of stairs only to find the pot
    empty. They set up a camcorder, pointed it at the pot and wrote a program
    to relay the image to their screens upstairs, so they would always know
    when it was full.

    When the World Wide Web was invented soon afterwards, they put it online as
    the world's first webcam. Although it is the Internet equivalent of
    watching paint dry, it became cult viewing, with 2.4 million visitors.

    But now Cambridge's Trojan Room webcam and its subject are being consigned
    to the history books because the university computer department is moving.
    Dan Gordon, 33, a research scientist, said: "It will be turned off simply
    because there is no more need for it.

    "It became very popular because it was up and running when there really
    wasn't very much else to look at on the Internet. We've kept it going using
    old machines, but it quite often breaks down."

    Quentin Stafford-Fraser, the man behind the pot website, said: "I first
    rigged it up because we were fed up of traipsing half-way around the
    building to find there was no coffee in the pot. At first, the image was
    only updated about three times a minute - it is now one frame a second -
    but that was fine because the pot filled rather slowly, and it was only
    greyscale, which was also fine, because so was the coffee.

  15. What a great holiday story... by el_doop · · Score: 2, Funny

    There outside perhaps the Trojan Room Coffee machine brueht and bubbles and steams again, almost approximately around the clock and those locally warms itself stomach and hands at the hot coffee, and those a little the heart.

    locally warms a little the heart, doesn't it?

  16. Manual translation by MKalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    The comeback of the Trojan Room Coffee Cam

    The legendary Krups ProAroma out of the even more legendary "Trojan Room" wrote history as the worldwide first webcam. She didn't get thrown away last August because SPIEGEL ONLINE together with a sponsor bought it from the University. Now she is makingn coffee again.

    CAM 1 CAM 2

    Ten years she fullfilled her duties, brewing coffee. Hundreds of Students and workers at the computer lab at the University of Cambridge warmed their hands and stomachs with the coffee. Million of Web-Surfers from all over the world watched. The Trojan Room Coffee Machine wrote web history since 1994 as the worldwide first webcam. Then, in the summer of 2001, she was supposed to go offline forever.

    The computer lab in Cambridge moved, this was one of the reasons. The coffee, say some of the users, was for quite some time more cult than anything else - another reason. And then, in the spring of 2001, the Krups ProAroma died: An era was obviously coming to an end.But what to do with an icon of the web?

    Throw it away? Not possible!

    She was put up for the higest bidder and SPIEGEL ONLINE together with the Health company Fresenius as a sponsor bought it for the impressive price of DM 10,452.70: Again the "Trojan Coffee Maker" wrote history - the most expensive broken coffee maker in the world.

    But she was destined to brew coffee again, she was supposed to send the steamy pictures back out into the web-world. The employees from the manufacturer Krups knew what to do: Free of charge they were going to repair this classic - even though the gurantee had long expired. So she left the office of SPIEGEL ONLINE as soon as she had come in.

    And she came back, repaired, as god as new, but still the old. And so, like you could watch her from 1994 until 2001 in Cambridge you can watch her now again, out of two perspectives. The Trojan-Room-Coffee-Machine brews, blubbers and steams again, almost around the clock. And the people nearby are warming their hands and stomachs with the hot coffee, and out there, some maybe the heart.

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  17. Labor of Love by Marcus+Erroneous · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What I really appreciated from the article is that they do have a sense of perspective. It is a coffee machine, as they put it "the most expensive broken coffee machine in the world" when they bought it. Yet, a significant event in the history of the web. Hundreds of people warmed themselves with the coffee while millions of people looked at it online. The first web cam. They simply couldn't allow such an icon of the Web to be thrown away. Thanks to them, it's a piece of 'Net history that continues to lives on. I can only hope that it ends up in the Smithsonian some day, but it's our own fault if it doesn't. Thanks to the staff at Spiegel for doing this. It hasn't saved the world, but it has helped to preserve part of it. Vielen Dank von Ihrem Kameraden bei Slashdot. Froeliche Weihnachten und eines Gutes Neues Jahr.

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  18. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by 10.0.0.1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if it had an ethernet port and a built in webserver showing how hot the coffee is and how much is left it would be a whole nother matter.


    As long as it complies with RFC 2324 then I am all for it.

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  19. Actual Images for the Javascript Impaired by dondelelcaro · · Score: 2, Informative
    For those of you who don't browse the web with java script on and can't read javascript (or haven't bothered to update your copy of mozilla to the new milestone with selective javascript):
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  20. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by wik · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I actually did this to my coffee machine (Winter Break, 1998). At the time, it was a Mr. Coffee 12-cup commercial coffee machine (since disposed of, pictures at: http://www.rabidpenguin.org/images/more/pic00023.j pg . The machine had a bunch of sensors attached to it, including temperature of the pot (red tape on the front), air temperature, amount of water in the pot (see the ribbon cable). Everything was attached to a Basic Stamp II, which had a serial cable to a 486 Linux webserver (mrcoffee.res.cmu.edu at the time).

    It turns out that sensing the amount of water in the pot is quite difficult. If you use a scale, it has to handle heat, humidity, and steam if you put it under the pot. If you put it under the machine, you will also have plenty of water screwing up measurements because it stays in the filter. I thought about bouncing a laser diode over the surface of the water, but that never materialized. I also tried measuring the capacitance of the coffee between two places (more coffee = more conductive dielectric). That didn't work. Coffee and tea are great conductors.

    Finally, I took a plastic ruler, drilled holes in it and hooked wires from a ribbon cable up to it, at a regular spacing. The coffee would short between a pin at a certain height (each pin was attached to an R2 ladder) and the ground pin at the bottom. This actually worked reasonably well! (If you could stand a ruler in your coffee pot!)

    Oh, I didn't want to figure out how to write a web hit counter CGI script, so I had the stamp store the number of hits in the stamp's EEPROM! Much easier! I still have the code and the hardware lying around, though the coffee machine is long gone (last attached to a DECstation 5000/260, actually).

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  21. Re:erm by SilentChris · · Score: 2

    If it was at Dunkin Donuts, probably not.

  22. Blatant simpson quote by sporty · · Score: 2

    Me not know english? That's umpossible!

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  23. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by epsalon · · Score: 2

    Don't forget RFC 2325 ofcourse for network managment of coffee pots.

  24. Upgrades by wackybrit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why don't more nerds in universities/companies do things like this? There's a whole heap of stuff you could do.

    1) Hook up water and a supply of coffee direct to the machine. This way you could control the ENTIRE coffee creation process remotely so that you have coffee waiting for you.

    2) Run Linux on it and have the coffee machine actually control the webcam.

    3) Implement a thermostat so that you can go get coffee when it's at a nice drinkable temperature, rather than getting burnt straight away.

    4) Hook a car battery and some wheels up to it, and make it mobile. Then program it with everyone's coffee preferences, and have it work out a route around the building delivering coffee. Y'know, just like those robots at the start of Short Circuit.

    1. Re:Upgrades by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      5) Use a Beowulf cluster of Athlons with water cooling to heat the water.

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  25. Krups should use this machine in a commercial by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

    I think given the historical nature of this now-repaired coffeemaker, I think Krups ought to seriously look at running some sort of international advertising campaign using this coffeemaker. It could be a pretty effective idea, too. :-)

  26. Article in communications of the ACM by metlin · · Score: 2

    There was a mention of this in the ACM magazine, Communications of the ACM.

    An online version of the article can be found here.

  27. Wow... by SaturnTim · · Score: 2


    It's a Christmas miracle!

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  28. IT would have made a kickass b-day present by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2
  29. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by wik · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I like this idea. I'm just not sure where you'd mount the ball on a stick. If you mount it on the machine itself, you'll have problems getting the pot out. If you mount it on the pot, you're going to have to make it removable, so that you can clean the thing! (Yuck)

    At any rate, I'm not quite sure how you would get a measurement out of this. Attach the stick to a loose potentiometer? Not to mention, the stick would have to have a useful range of movement 80 to 90 degrees in order to capture the information that you want. My guess is that it would be less accurate than the ruler, but if you just want a ballpark measurement, it might work fine.

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  30. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by wik · · Score: 3, Informative

    That was a possibility, but I never wanted to fork out money for a webcam back then. They were more expensive than the crappy USB cameras that you see now. :-)

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  31. Re:10 Thousand marks for what? by wik · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Yes, this would work well for a binary IsFull or !IsFull reading. I actually wanted to know how many cups were in the pot (and especially when it was empty, as it is in the common case). A ping-pong ball might work better for the binary measure, though it is a little large. Calibration might be hard for anything more accurate with that setup.

    The advantage of the ruler was that I only had to calibrate it once (the resistors were fixed and outside the coffee machine) and it was easy to remove for cleaning. It also had an obvious failure mode (sometimes it would read -13 cups, then you'd know there was short somewhere).

    The point of this project was to have fun, of course, not to make a coffee machine that people would ever drink from. Overengineered? Probably. But it was cool to have an LED flash everytime someone hit the webserver. And hey, doesn't everyone want to know the temperature of their dorm room to within 10 degrees rankine? (yep, it reported kelvin and rankine)

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