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20 Factors That Will Change PCs In 2002

bstadil writes: "CNN's tech site has posted a list of the 20 most significant factors that will change the PC in 2002. Its not very technical but it would be interesting to get the take on this from the Slashdot community plus what they think needs to be added."

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  1. "The perfect communication device" by reaper20 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think that 1GHz Palmtops, IM, new fuel cells, and that new screen technology could be combined into one super PDA that has been promised since someone uttered convergence.

    The Handspring Treo will replace my phone, my PDA, and my Blackberry. Now there's a something I'd shell out hard cash for in 2002.

  2. Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Brento · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really got my hopes up as I read through it - I thought for once, I would see an article about The Future that didn't say the equivalent of, "This year is really the year when voice recognition will be everywhere." But noooo, they had to say that voice-driven web portals will be one of the Big Things.

    What is it about voice recognition that suckers journalists in every time? Nobody seems to get it: voice recognition is here, it's been here for a long time, it's just that the accuracy isn't good enough. You can't walk up to somebody else's installation of ViaVoice and start dictating a letter without missing a few words in each paragraph at the bare minimum.

    Now they're talking about voice navigation of web sites? Let me get this straight: half of the sites I visit are so poorly designed that it's hard to tell where to CLICK, let alone what I would say if the site was actually listening to my voice. And if I have to read instructions on how to surf a specific site, you can bet I won't bother reading it - or even clicking.

    I didn't bother reading the rest of their Big Futuristic Ideas, but if they're the kind of journalists that include voice recognition, it's not the kind of article I want to read.

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  3. Flamebait article by Johnny+O · · Score: 4, Funny

    This ARTICLE should be modded -1 Flamebait

    > Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    [..snip..]

    > Operating system: Some version of Windows (you
    > expected Linux, perhaps?)

  4. My wish list by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hard disks that are faster, not bigger. If I need more space, I'll add more spindles. How about giving me a disk that can push 50 or 100 MB/sec from the platters?

    Bring back those monitors-with-built-in-USB-hubs.

    Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

    Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

    A decent NFS client for Win32.

    That's all I can think of for now. I'm not terribly interested about vapor markup languages or 1 GHz palmtops. Give me something I can use.

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    1. Re:My wish list by Brento · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bring back those monitors-with-built-in-USB-hubs.

      I'm shopping for a new LCD display, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that most of them have a USB hub. I wasn't quite so happy that many have junky built-in speakers, but of course you don't have to use 'em.

      Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week.

      Swing by your local CompUSA. Dual CPU motherboards are now under $100, often well under $100. A quick check of Pricewatch shows that two P3-667's will cost you less than a single P3-1ghz, so the only thing stopping you from SMP heaven is - well, you.

      Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      Well, I can't help you there. At least it's not Microsoft Bob.

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    2. Re:My wish list by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Some comments on your wish list:

      1. Hard drives are already pretty fast, especially now with ATA-100/133 IDE connections. Serial ATA will raise the data transfer rate by a factor of six. I do expect quiet 10,000-20,000 rpm Serial ATA hard drives in the next few years, though. For higher-end applications, expect the cost of Fibre Channel connections to come down, which will essentially put an end to SCSI.

      2. Why do you want monitors with built-in USB hubs? I don't find them that useful, especially nowadays most pre-built systems now have USB connectors in front of the system case.

      3. Unfortunately, not that many applications take full advantage of multi-processor boxes (or require their use). It's only with very specialized apps such as CAD/CAM and very high-end image processing that you really need multi-processor computers.

      4. If you're looking for a less patronizing Windows UI, Windows XP's Luna interface is already a step in the right direction. You'll probably see other changes in the next few years.

    3. Re:My wish list by Bronster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In any event, the My Computer, My Documents, can easily be renamed, if that is such a huge deal...

      I take it you've never tried to tech-support people who've renamed their My Computer, My Documents, etc.

      Especially not other people trying to use said computers with the 'clever' renamings.

      Most especially not technical-iliterates who really can't handle the idea of thinking about the icons (don't even get me started on themed desktops with both new non-intuitive icons and non-intuitive names).

      Very much especially when you're on a phone line and can't see the other screen.

      VNC + VPN has become my friend for all still-functioning systems. (here, install software from the following Windows share. Set default password. Don't watch my drunken mouse movements over your modem while I fix the password in the registry. Ahh, all better now).

    4. Re:My wish list by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      2004 prediction: "Bill Gates' Documents". "Bill Gates' Computer".

    5. Re:My wish list by MSG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For higher-end applications, expect the cost of Fibre Channel connections to come down, which will essentially put an end to SCSI.

      You should be aware that fibre channel isn't the death of SCSI, it's a new life for SCSI.

      Fibre channel is a physical transport. SCSI is a data transport/command set on top of a physical transport (which is also called SCSI). Fibre channel is just going to provide a newer, faster physical transport for the next generation of SCSI devices. Furthermore, SCSI is expensive because it requires complex controllers on the host and on devices. Fibre channel won't change that. As the cost of fibre channel comes down, it'll approach the current cost of SCSI, but won't make them any less expensive.

  5. They forgot software as a service by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Subscription based Software / Services (games, streaming content etc etc)

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  6. Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by shoemakc · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Microsoft has made IM a key component of Windows XP: Besides sending simple text messages, with Windows Messenger you can exchange files, conduct audio or video conferences, and collaborate on documents over the Net
    ICQ and AIM have had all of these features for well over 3 years now. Yet another user who never ventured outside of what came on their start menu.
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  7. What they missed by shawkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Advanced operating systems. Defining technology as a subset of an unresponsive monopoly OS is a waste of time.

    Efficient programming tools. If four programmers could write a better Photoshop in two months and distribute it electronically, then things will change.

    Human factors driven technology. People will buy more stuff that works easily and makes them happy.

  8. 802.11x by Jaggar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that the largest change coming in the next few years, at least for laptop users, will be the increasing prevalence of pervasive, high bandwidth wireless networks based on the IEEE 802.11a-g protocols. I have the pleasure of working for one of the few companies that makes extensive use of these devices (we design them, actually), and I can't imagine working without them. When I go to a meeting, I just plug a card into my laptop and go. In the meeting I can bring up all of the relevant documents and data, check my email and stocks, and, most importantly, read Slashdot.

    These technologies will have an even larger impact in academic institutions. At this moment, I know of at least two universities (Carnegie Mellon and, interestingly, Akron University in Ohio) that have essentially omnipresent 802.11b wireless networks. Students with laptops can access the campus network as well as the internet from any point in the university, even the football field.

    I think that this will be the area of largest noticeable change because it is not incremental. We expect faster processors, greater storage capacity, faster busses, etc., but the ability to connect to the internet with a broadband connection from almost anywhere, that will be new and therefore more noticeable. However, even though it is novel, it is implemented with mature technologies that have been tried and tested for several years now, at least in the case of 802.11b.

  9. Moore's Law still holding... by Tryfen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's cool? Even Moore's Law eventually gets trumped by the laws of physics. In a few years, the current method of packing ever greater numbers of transistors onto a chip will hit a wall. But a technology called Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography may break that barrier. Intel estimates that EUVL chips will boast 400 million transistors -- about ten times more than the Pentium 4's 42 million.

    Sooooo...
    (42 * 2)^n = 400

    n = 3.3 lots of 18 months

    3.3 * 18 = ~60 months

    60 / 12 = 5 years

    When's it coming? In three to five years.

    Move along people... nothing to see...

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  10. Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I guess they are kidding: 512 MB DDR RAM is nothing, even by today's standards. I guess people will hit the 4 GB limit on traditional x86 desktops even before the end of 2004.

    There's a rule that today's hard disk capacities are RAM capacities in five to seven years. By this estimate, we're going to hit 4 GB during 2003, I suppose.

  11. Re:Laptops by Publicus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Operating system: Windows

    Price: $2,000 and up

    You didn't read that correctly; The price of the hardware will be so cheap it will be laughable. Windows, on the other hand, will cost $2000 and up. The funny thing is many suckers would probably pay it.

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  12. wrong x 20? by thogard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look at the price...
    PC's are commodity items of last year. If people can't buy a computer for $500, they won't be paying 4x that in 2004.

    OLED? When they start to come out the LCD people are going to get very nervous and they have much more room to play on the price cut front. Result, OLED meet ch 11 and its back to LCD.

    IM? Thats too much like peer to peer file sharing for the media folks. I predict M$ will get its self in court with the MPAA people as well as RIAA within a year.

    Wireless? Why? The last stuff that was rolled out is a hackers dream. You think large compaines are going to try it again? Other than the cool, look I can do ____ from the other side of the room, whats it worth to most compaines? No one is spending on toys anymore.

    XML? TLA for the decade. Its going to be here for a long time. Much more difficult to parse than most text files and this looks like a cool idea to thouse who didn't understand why we have LALR grammar.

    Multi-threading made faster. Oh joy... how many programs do I have now that are multi-threaded. Most users are more than happy with the spell check thread running under word and about 90% of applications thread well.

    Magnet bubble memory is back... one more time its going to be the best thing since sliced bread. Its cool to be able to put the same 64mbyte card in my camera and my mp3 player but my rio seems to be having problems with its 1st sector as its fash has faded.

    Fuel cells will be great if they don't get banned by the local fire marshal. I figure with H2's bad rap (think Hindenburg), all it will take is one accident and this will be baned in some major city. Then others will follow.

    Voice portals... One more thing to strangle... too bad I can't put my hands around the things neck.

    Smart cards are great. Now its difficult to get a magnetic card writer (who do you know that has one). Now everyone with a PC and the balls to walk into a Tandy shop can get what it take to reprogram some smart cards. The CPUs are too slow to do meaningful crypto and as the cable TV compaines have found out, there are people who can tell you the circut thats sealed in that thin plastic. My bet is smart card fraud will exceed US$500 by Dec of 2002.

    G3? is this Gimik 3? DoCoMo will finaly get its act together, get live porn to phones in Japan. G3 will be dead anywhere they can export to or thouse parts of the world that don't have the guts to drop dead tech that isn't going to work.

    Digital Cameras with more pixels. Ever try to explain to Mom why the screen can't show as many dots as the camera took and why good 35 mm fill is still 20000 lines of resulution while the overpirced camera has a few thosuand? What I want to know is why can't these $300 cameras have a lense better than a $10 disposable camera?

  13. CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids... by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    400 gigs and a cloud of dust: AFC hard drives


    Not a bad idea. As the average amount of free space per PC increases, software makers will find a way to utilize it. They always have.


    PDAs move to another level: The 1-GHz palmtop


    Doubtful. Unlike cell phones, the demographic that buys palmtops aren't made up of teenagers. The people who buy and use palmtops aren't obsessed with making them smaller. They want connectivity first, then speed, then glitz. Besides, the typical uses of a palmtop don't extend to high-end computing. Having 1 Ghz under the hood isn't going to allow you to write your term paper any faster.

    Scintillating screens: Organic-light-emitting diodes


    Vastly overhyped. The intensity of OLEDs fade with time. When compared next to TFT, they look like shit, perform like shit, and go bad far quicker than TFT. They're also more expensive to produce. It'll be a novelty, but, it wont go anywhere in the end, IMHO.

    The message is the medium: Next-generation instant messaging


    Uhhh.....Ever heard of IRC? CUSeeMe? This is hardly a new technology. Its the same paradox as the video phone. Everyone thinks that videophones would be totally cool, but no one's willing to have their hair and make-up done in order to answer the phone. Pound for pound, text remains the best medium for large groups of people to share information. What good is a teleconference if only one person at a time can talk? If more than one person starts talking, you might as well be listening to a washing machine.

    Tireless wireless: 802.11 networks


    I absolutely agree. 802.11 is the beginning of something very big. Community networks, and the death knell for wire-provided technologies like DSL, Cable, 56K modems, etc.

    In search of a common language: Markup languages for everything

    Here we go again, failing to learn from history. People, its like this -- Programmers dont think alike. Thats what makes them programmers. You'll no sooner see people using the same language for markup as you'll see people coding in Smalltalk. People gravitate towards languages based on their ability to be proficient at it. No matter how good XML is, people will still use HTML becuase it suits them better, or PHP, or Perl, or C, or Assembly, or freakin Smalltalk if they want. Name a single time in history when a programmer was considered proficient in his art, WITHOUT knowing more than one language. Get my drift?

    Getting a little hyper: Hyper-threading


    Big clue for ya, gang--99.9% of your PC's lifespan is spent waiting for your lazy human ass to tell it what to do. Hyperthreading assumes that Moore's Law will flatline. It wont. What good is greater availability of processing power when you're STILL not addressing the fact that for most of your machine's usable lifespan, it's sitting idle anyway? Its like code optimization research. As time goes on, it becomes more and more irrelevant.

    And now, my short list of what WILL take off:

    802.11 and its offspring

    Corporation-controlled P2P trading

    P2P For Programmers--Wide and seamless code-sharing environments that replace segmented environments like SourceForge, Savannah, etc. Why not search for a bunch of good 3D engine s to pick from instead of just MP3s?

    GUI optimization. Out with the old, in with the new. The need for a more intuitive interface always wins in the long run, over tradition-based designs. (cough)Scrollball(cough) :)

    User-centric computing instead of application-centric computing.

    Self-regulating and self-maintaining applications...Just picture it. Your antivirus software is eventually rendered obsolute because each of your applications, independant of one another, monitors its own structure and is aware of viruses that may attempt to exploit it. Also downloads and applies new updates, code patches, etc. Maintenance-free from a user standpoint.

    Government requirements for both OS security and application security. Possibly even a ratings system.

    Where will it end! :)

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  14. Magnetic Core Memory? by ZigMonty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Data magnet: Magnetic RAM

    What is it? Fast memory that retains data even after you've turned the power off.

    What's cool? MRAM uses magnetic charges instead of electricity to store bits; when you turn off your machine, your data remains in memory.

    This sounds a hell of a lot like magnetic core memory. It's funny that they portray magnetic RAM as something new. Yes, I know the new implementation of this will be very different (sub micron scale etc) but the idea was popular decades ago. Does anyone have a good comparison of the old way and the planned new way?

  15. What I�m expecting to happen in 2002 by Molina+the+Bofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    A new bug that allows remote access will be found in Windows XP. People will be urged to install the critical update or move to a real OS.

    A new bug that allows root access will be found in the latest version of wu-ftpd. People will be urged to patch it or move to a real FTP server.

    A new bug that allows root access will be found in the latest version of Sendmail. People will be urged to patch it or move to a real MTA

    A kid will be diagnosed with cancer, and will have few days left. People will send him lots of postcards.

    Youll receive a warning about a terrible virus that can reformat your hard drive, and neither Microsoft nor the antivirus companies has the ability to fix it.

    Motorolla will fill for Chapter 11 because it spent so much money giving cellular phones to everybody who sent lots of e-mails

    Amazon will not make profit in 2002

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  16. What about the SSSCA? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Requiring copy-protection to be built in every single computer peripheral capable of storage is kinda significant, yet merits no mention. Maybe nobody's supposed to know about it?

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  17. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by pcx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Only a fool discounts voice recognition. I haven't dialed my sprint phone for the past six months, instead I simply tell it who to call and it does.

    I'm sure Douglas Adams would be giggling uncontrollably but that's OK, I think that's pretty neat technology.

    Voice recognition has come to high-end cars (remember the "rain stop" commercials?" And it's come to TV remotes. When it's put into microwaves I'll be one of the first to buy it.

    There was a time not ten years ago where nobody would dream of doing stuff like this but now we're on the verge of getting rid of the clunky typewriter keyboard and our children may look at our use of these devices as quaintly as we look upon our great great grandparents as they huddled around the radio listening to broadcasts of the lone rangers.

    So while you may stop reading future trend articles because they talk about voice recognition I won't read one that doesn't because like it or not, it IS the wave of the future and every year the technology entrenches itself a little more into our lives.

    And that is a very good thing IMHO :-)

  18. Your desktop PC specs in 2004 by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    Your desktop PC in 2004: Two years from now, your desktop system will be slimmer and trimmer. Flat-panel screens will replace bulky CRTs, and rewritable-DVD drives and fast graphics subsystems will turn your PC into a movie lover's dream.

    And DVD and CD so fscked up with copy protection that you can't use any of it on your PC

    CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus

    Try more memory, 512 isn't that uncommon in off the shelf computers today. And as for CPU, how about mentioning 64 bits, like the Hammer, instead of yammering on about that ancient Pentium 4

    Hard disk: From 300GB to 400GB on a Serial ATA bus

    And no backup technology even close, so you'll have to have RAID standard or risk losing all those pr0n videos. Rather have SCSI, too.

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    DVD+RW or something else, perferably without some built in copy protection lock, like HP's unit has.

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not

    If there's ANY left and IF they provide in a reasonably open service format and IF it doesn't cost $100/mo so they're profitable.

    Video: 3D graphics card with 128MB of video RAM

    And still able to play NetHack? :)

    Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution

    And weighs less than 20 lbs and lasts longer than 30 minutes on battery? I'd be happy with inexpensive 17", thanks.

    Ports: USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394

    Input devices: Wireless (Bluetooth) mouse and keyboard

    What? Now Eye-mouse or Gyromouse?

    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)

    Some version of Linux (you expected Windows, perhaps?)

    Other: An 802.11b wireless network designed for users with more than one PC

    Or a more up to date version of 802.11, but why not network it to more than just PC's, or did the future vision 15 watt bulb start to grow dim?

    Price: $1,500 to $2,000

    Well, ok, but only because the $900 model has that crappy P4 in it.

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  19. Voice doesn't work. Or does it? by markmoss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From what I've heard, voice recognition is fairly good at this point -- the one remaining problem is that human speech isn't all that clear. ("Humorist" would not be a viable career choice otherwise.) If you read a list of random words aloud in your normal speaking voice (not taking care to separate words and talk clearly), chances are most people would mis-identify a quarter to half of them. Read normal sentences aloud, and the error rate of humans who understand the topic is pretty low -- because usually there are many ways the words could be interpreted, but only one way they fit together into a sensible sentence. But there are always some misunderstandings of spoken speech, because now and then there is another coincidental interpretation that seems even better.

    Voice recognition systems are actually pretty good at identifying the words. Where they fail is at deciding which of the various possible interpretations of a sentence make sense -- since machine understanding of a typed-in English sentence is still hit or mostly miss, the machine is not going to get enough help interpreting ambiguous sounds from the context of the sentence...

    So you aren't going to be able to dictate to your Palm Pilot and get a business letter that you can mail without proofreading and revision. But a human stenographer can't do that either, unless she understands quite a lot about the subject and has experience with how _you_ want the letters to come out. But there was a time when most businessmen thought it worthwhile to pay the wages of a stenographer even though they had to revise every letter and send it back to be re-typed. It beat banging on the old typewriter yourself... I think the best voice recognition now is roughly equivalent to a stupid stenographer; it should do grammar better and spell perfectly, but get the wrong word more often. It's not for me (imagine trying to dictate C code!), but if you aren't willing to lug around a full-size keyboard, or haven't become good at typing, it is quite likely that it will be faster to dictate to a voice machine and then do the needed corrections than to type a document into a palmtop.

    As for why print journalists fixate on voice recognition, that's obvious. There was a time when they'd take notes on a little pad, then race to a typewriter -- now that they have laptops, they can add back strain from lugging around the 'puter and many sets of batteries to the older occupational diseases of writers cramp and carpal tunnel. And they still have to run around finding someplace to set the laptop. So say "voice recognition" and they're all dreaming about being able to just find a quiet corner and talk into a palmtop. And let the editors do the re-write, they will anyhow!

  20. the myth of computers that are too fast by markj02 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    [machines will be 100x as fast, but] Software that's capable of taking advantage of all this processing muscle is nowhere in sight.

    I find this fascinating. On the one hand, we have great programming languages, tools, and libraries whose only disadvantage compared to C, C++, Java, and C# is that they are maybe 10x slower. We have the processors to run them faster than we could run assembly a few years ago. Yet, whenever these new processors come out, everybody goes back, wastes lots of time tuning their C/C++ code and then complains that all those cycles are useless. There are still endless debates even in 2001 whether Gnome or KDE is faster. The Linux kernel developers don't even want to move to C++

    Folks, those cycles are very useful. Not for some obscure technology that you know nothing about. They are very useful to let you program faster by worrying less about fine-tuning your software and for automating lots of tasks. They are very useful also for making programs safer and more robust automatically by eliminating common bugs like buffer overflows. And they are very useful for component-based software construction, which requires some form of runtime reflection--much better done automatically.