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Mosfet Contributes Code To KDE (Again)

davidsmind writes "Former KDE hacker and creator of the much acclaimed Liquid theme, Mosfet(AKA Daniel M. Duley ) is back in the spotlight. The Dot was the first one with the story. 'Many in the KDE community are aware of some rocky history between KDE hacker Mosfet and other KDE developers. Fortunately, it looks like things have taken a great turn for the better: Mosfet wrote in to tell us that "I've decided to donate 20 effects I ported to KDE/Qt for PixiePlus to KDE3." Waldo Bastian promptly added them to CVS.'" The list of effects is long, impressive, and under a BSD-style license. Mosfet has done a lot of the work that makes my desktop pretty, so I'm very happy to hear about this.

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  1. That Just Goes to Show Ya by Mojo+Geek · · Score: 1, Insightful

    An old carpenter I worked with almost 30 years ago told me "if it don't come out in the wash, it comes out in the rinsin'".

    All of us that use and enjoy KDE owe thanks to those that contribute, regardless of whatever went on before they bring code to the table for us to share.

  2. Re:oh boy! by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 2, Insightful
    slow, buggy overengineered window manager


    'kwin' is actually a fairly lightweight window manager. Or do you not know the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment?

  3. No, it cannot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another /.er said:
    "KDE can do without coding primadonnas".

    Sorry, I think I disagree.

    Primadonnas are a pain in the ass, ok.

    But in the final count, you must kneel and ask them to come back on stage (hear the fine music about primadonnas from Webber's "The Phantom of the Opera").

    Some primaddonnas have a contribution, a good contribution for that matter -- and *we* cannot afford being egocentric -- even and mainly if they are!

    In the famous Lee Iacocca autobiographic book, he tells about having colleagues who complained about hardtimes with other people. He used to say, jokingly I guess, "Too bad, this company doesn't hire monkeys, or gorillas or tigers, we just got people!"

    And that's it, to put it simply.

    KDE is not just about technology. Ok, it is a very advanced project and what I like in the Linux world is that we progress faster than most other alternatives, be it commercial or not.

    But KDE _is_ about people, too. Don't throw away competent people. Instead, put some buffer around their idiosyncrasies.

    Heck, keep them in an asylum if you need, but don't disregard their work. We lost too many geniuses because they were gay, and now we regret it.

    So, get two people, the primadonna and someone who can interface him/her to the world.

    Now, to Mosfet and Rasterman, you can sing very well -- but what is a singer without an audience.

    Have patience with those who must have patience with you.

    From a friend.

  4. Re:Not just a large contribution by anfloga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work professionally as a GUI developer, and can add one more reason why it's probable that Mosfet is getting so much attention, relative to the other equally worthy programmers out there.

    You can see what he's done. It's obvious, it just jumps right out at you, because it's GUI work. For better or worse, GUI programmers have this extra responsibility.

    Erik

  5. The Odd Thing About Open Source by quakeaddict · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The odd thing about open source is that the few who get paid doing it can be just as unreliable as a corporation. Its amazing to me watching how people fall over guys like Mosfet, in gratitude, after he basically walked out on the project a few months earlier saying "its my ball and i'm going home."

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  6. Re:Not just a large contribution by RickHunter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, that's curious. Konqueror renders twice the pages correctly in half the time that Mozilla does. And loads faster. And has a more appealing default interface. And browses the web, as opposed to reading mail and news, providing an IRC client, and making my morning coffee.

  7. Re:Not just a large contribution by krogoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "particularly not because of this recent contributution of some effects ripped from imagemagick"

    Are you saying that he used Open-Source code in an Open-Source project? *gasp*

    If he didn't credit the source that's understandable, but if this is brought to his attention and he fixes it, it could be a mistake (although since I'm sure you've never made any, you wouldn't understand).

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    They that quote Benjamin Franklin on liberty and safety deserve neither.
  8. Re:Not just a large contribution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Actually, Konqueror does support PNG transparency.

    try looking at the offcial PNG transparency test page using Konqueror:
    http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngs.html

    You can't really compare Konqueror and Galeon because they have different scopes. Konqueror is a file manager that doubles as a web browser. Konqueror, Nautilus, and Internet Explorer have the same scope (although Nautilus's web functions are a bit weak).

  9. Hurrah! by sgage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everybody's carrying on as if this is some sort of important event in the history of KDE. The Liquid theme is pretty, but jaysus, it's a friggin' theme! Let's get some perspective.

  10. Re:Not just a large contribution by Yosho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't believe he said what you think he said. Konqueror is fine for an everyday web browser; Mozilla is as feature-rich as one could imagine, including reading mail and news as well as using IRC. Believe it or not, some people like that.

    He didn't say one is better than the other; for what they were intended for, they're both excellent. Nonetheless, they *are* in different leagues -- to further the analogy, Konqueror is a flyweight to Mozilla's super heavyweight. Saying that the Konqueror coders have created an equivalent to Mozilla is pure fallacy.

    As a sidenote, the interfaces are even more up to opinion than the rest of the features -- I, personally, find Konqueror to be quite ugly compared to Mozilla. However, that's just my opinion, and has no place in a qualitative comparison of the browsers.

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  11. Re:Not just a large contribution by Zapman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or the developers of Konqueror [konqueror.org], who have equalled Mozilla with a twentieth of the personnel and a thousandth of the money.

    All preferences asside, both are fantastic browsers, however, saying konq has equaled mozilla is like saying a pear has equaled an orange because they are both fruit. Konq has a goal of being a fantastic browser for kde. This it has done. Mozilla has a goal of being a fantastic CROSS-PLATFORM browser. This it has done. It's quite accurate to say that they arn't in the same league, so long as you realize the leagues you're talking about are the NBA and the NFL, for example

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    Zapman