The Tech Interviews of Yesteryear

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The Tech Interviews of Yesteryear

Posted by timothy on Tuesday January 1, 2002 @01:55PM from the still-20020101-in-the-states dept.

nihilist_1137 writes: "Cnet has a collection of interviews with some of the 'biggest movers and shakers' of 2001. It focuses on their plans, ambitions and fears. Included is Sir Arthur C. Clark, Bill Gates, Will Wright, and Bill Joy, to name a few." It''s a fairly eclectic bunch of interviews collected from the last year, not ones done specifically for 2001 nostalgia.

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well by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 13:58 · Score: -1, Offtopic

this would be my fifth first post. lovely!
1. Re:well by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:02 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  Your were second you stupid, stupid bastard. I hate you and you lousy second post!
fda fdas by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:00 · Score: -1, Offtopic

fist pr0st
Guess what? by gmplague · 2002-01-01 14:01 · Score: -1, Troll

I have absolutely nothing to comment on this story.

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Take comfort in your ignorance.
Grandmaster Plague
foff by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:02 · Score: -1, Troll

ban me from posting will yah

hahahahaha

penis in your mouths!

Trolls 4 life.
bundle it up by magicslax · 2002-01-01 14:02 · Score: 4, Insightful

This cracks me up, in a funny-as-in-sad sort of way.

In the Gates interview, he said "If we can't add any features, then what is Windows? I mean, there were guys who sold TCP/IP stacks for $100. Should we not have put TCP/IP stacks into Windows?"

If MS was reimplementing TCP/IP for windows today, it would probably compatible only with Windows Media Packets.

Oh well ^_^
1. Re:bundle it up by stephanruby · 2002-01-01 18:57 · Score: 1
  
  "If MS was reimplementing TCP/IP for windows today, it would probably compatible only with Windows Media Packets. "
  In the 80s, Microsoft developed* a network protocol called NetBEUI (it's short for NetBIOS Extended User Interface). NetBEUI could only handle NetBIOS and Microsoft fought tooth and nail against the competing "open" protocol. In any case, Microsoft eventually capitulated and started supporting TCP/IP in its products.
  Overall, it seems you're overestimating Microsoft. Whatever its short-term reflex may be, Microsoft still needs the piggy-backing power of open standards. In the long-run, this guargantuan giant wants to maintain its obesity and it will never stand to lose marketshare.
  Stephan
  *Note. Actually, I am not sure Microsoft developed that technology since NetBIOS was at least being licensed through IBM.
An Ode to Persian Females by core10k · 2002-01-01 14:02 · Score: -1

Why are so beautiful?
So very, very beautiful?
And yet so fragile.
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I wish you would spread
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But I know you won't.
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I missed the first post! by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:03 · Score: -1, Offtopic

But someone called mr taco claims to sell special tacos for €1 and a special snotty surprise
I drink piss! by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:05 · Score: -1, Offtopic

and eat shit

- R0B "snotting" malda
Bill Joy? by jfonseca · 2002-01-01 14:06 · Score: 0, Insightful

Anyone tell me how Bill Joy was a mover or a shaker in 2001?

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1. Re:Bill Joy? by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 17:39 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  He moved alot of bullshit around in 2001.
MetaMetaNews by terpia · 2002-01-01 14:07 · Score: 2

Damn....These last three days should be called " The Attack of the Slashdot News Montage " Meta news is great, but meta news that is already meta news? Anyways, the Interview with Arthur C. Clarke is great and I especially love this quote from Clarke: "No, obviously you have to continue to use the technology. Life would come to a stop if we didn't have our cell phones and our computers and so forth." - Heh, at least I'm not the only one who believes this!

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Movers and Shakers of 2001? by Roto-Rooter+Man · 2002-01-01 14:07 · Score: -1

Those guys didn't do much in 2001 at all!! Seems to me like its just a bunch of random celebrity geeks. They should have interviewed Osama bin Laden or that Segway guy instead. At least they did something this year.

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article.pl?sid=02/01/01/1755246&mode=thread&am by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:08 · Score: -1, Offtopic

THE BEST SITE IN THE WORLD! NOT JOKING its the best, troll sites are the best and the snotting bastards who run this site are just jelous
Richard Parsons Interview by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:08 · Score: 0

This one is a scary read, Richard Parsons: Why the Web Can't Remain Free It's not as if we get it free now. ISPs, computer, eyestrain, carpel tunnel, backaches, etc. I would do less shopping than I do now, between Amazon, Ebay, Ubid, and others. Free? It's not free now Mr Parsons.....
/.'ed already by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:10 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Heres a mirror (Ignore the domain name)
Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comment by jarodss · 2002-01-01 14:11 · Score: 2, Interesting

About the GPL, he said "But if you say to people, "Do you understand the GPL?" And they'll say, "Huh?" And they're pretty stunned when the Pac-Man-like nature of it is described to them."

Pac-Man-like nature? IANAL but I think I understand the basics of the GPL but wtf is the Pac-Man-like nature of it?

Anyone care to comment?
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Gates' interview is rather chilling by J.D.+Hogg · 2002-01-01 14:18 · Score: 4, Insightful

"How can you be sure that people will want and pay for Web services? The HailStorm model is based on consumers paying for these services.
Well, some will be free, and some will be for pay. The marketplace will decide. When you describe to people that every file on their machine will be backed up--photos of their kids, business documents, e-mail--if your machine is taken or breaks, those will be available to you."
and to Microsoft for marketing purposes, to Ashcroft for his latest terrorist witch-hunt, to the IRS for the audit they had in mind for you, ...
Does Gate really think people will swallow that ? I mean, holy crap, hell will freeze over before I send any of my files to a remote storage volume owned by Microsoft (or owned by anybody else for that matter).
1. Re:Gates' interview is rather chilling by targo · 2002-01-01 15:15 · Score: 1
  
  Does Gate really think people will swallow that ? I mean, holy crap, hell will freeze over before I send any of my files to a remote storage volume owned by Microsoft (or owned by anybody else for that matter).
  
  So what? The fact of life is that there is a market for this service and many people would use it. I have tons of stuff myself (e.g. selfmade pics and music) that aren't sensitive but for which I could use a convenient backup solution (I don't consider tapes etc. convenient or safe). Providing this service doesn't make Microsoft evil, thinking that anyone can force you to use it is just silly (opposed to chilly as you put it). But of course, excessive paranoia gets always modded up on slashdot ;-)
  
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More interesting by Genghis+Troll · 2002-01-01 14:19 · Score: -1

is this interview with the great Ron Jeremy:

Interviewer: Okay Ron, thanks for talking with us. Let's get straight to the good stuff, how did you get started in porn... as a child did you say, "I wanna be a porn star when I grow up"?
Ron: I started acting in theater, then I did Playgirl magazine. I did porn because the job market for actors was horrible in New York. It was that or drive a taxi. I had already quit teaching.

Interviewer: How did you first learn about sex?
Ron: Practice in high school, and dialogue with dad and older sister.

Interviewer: What's been your best on screen fuck?
Ron: I usually tell men, "Your mom" when they ask. To be honest, I like natural women... Christy Canyon, Shanna McCoullough, Tiffany Million, Nina Hartley, Alice Springs... an Australian girl.

Interviewer: What about your worst?
Ron: I usually tell guys, "Your mom" once again. To be serious, they've all been wonderful... aren't I diplomatic?

Interviewer: And with these women, what's your favourite sexual position to give it to them?
Ron: Giving head to a woman, Cunilingus, and plain old missionary.

Interviewer: Do you see yourself as a sex symbol?
Ron: Hell no. I crack jokes, create a character in the films. Take my dialogue seriously, have a fairly big penis, and try to give a good sex scene.

Interviewer: And does your porn career actually attract women to you?
Ron: Once in a while I get lucky. Penthouse magazine once said I'd never get laid if a director didn't yell "Action!".

Interviewer: Do women find your hairy chest a turn on? I know that I like my man to be well covered...
Ron: Oriental women love it. The rest are divided. Some do, some don't.

Interviewer: Do you have a long-term partner?
Ron: No, I date women, nobody serious. Lots of friends.

Interviewer: Oh, well what if you were a woman, would you wanna fuck Ron Jeremy?
Ron: If he bought me flowers, candy, a nice dinner and lost 30 pounds.

Interviewer: Do you watch porn films you have starred in?
Ron: If the dialogue scenes are special, I do. If I play crazy characters, worked with an absolutely gorgeous woman, I would.

Interviewer: Does it feel good to know that so many people watch you fucking?
Ron: It's interesting. I'm more of a ham as an actor, than fucker.

Interviewer: You seem to say many silly and hilarious lines in your flicks, what would you say is your most famous or favourite line you ever said in a film? Ours fave is in the film Bad Girls where you say "I'd like a piece of that pussy, if you don't mind"...
Ron: That same film has my second fave, "Good, ain't I?" but my favourite was before pop shot... "Diamonds are a girl's best friend, but here comes a pearl necklace you'll never forget!" AGGGHHH!

Interviewer: Well we look forward to that one... ha ha. What about STD's? Do you ever have the fear of catching AIDS?
Ron: It's always a concern. We're all tested every month. And exterior ejaculations lessen the risk with women.

Interviewer: In your opinion, who are the 3 sexiest women in the world?
Ron: Michelle Pfeiffer, Darryl Hannah and Olivia Newton John... had to throw in an Australian.

Interviewer: When fucking a woman on camera, do you feel a lot of anxiety to make her cum?
Ron: Yes, but I feel more pressure to do it off camera... on camera she can fake it!

Interviewer: She could too, but can you tell when a woman fakes an orgasm with you?
Ron: Yes, she drops her nail file. Seriously, I usually can, unless they're great at it.

Interviewer: Do you feel inadequate if you don't make them cum, or does Ron Jeremy NEVER fail...?
Ron: I feel a little inadequate, and we ALL sometimes fail.

Interviewer: Who would you love to fuck if you could have anyone?
Ron: Again, that joke about you mom, but seriously, Michelle Pfeiffer, Darryl Hannah and Olivia Newton John, obviously.

Interviewer: Do people recognise you in public?
Ron: Lots of times. AVN and Adam film world magazines and Hustler say I'm the most recognised porn actor in America.

Interviewer: Does body shape determine a woman's sexual talent?
Ron: Of course not. Talent is talent. Ability is ability. Some of us try harder because we may not be exceptionally attractive.

Interviewer: So who are generally better... Thin women, average women, volutuous women or large women?
Ron: It doesn't matter. Motivated women. When they want to please you.

Interviewer: Who has the best tits that you've seen?
Ron: Christy Canyon, Raquel Rios, Tammy Anne, Trinity Loren... all natural double D's and Tammy has great nipples.

Interviewer: Do you prefer large or small tits?
Ron: Large, but I do like small too. Natural is the key... and I like nipples that perk up and get hard.

Interviewer: You have what many men would consider the perfect job, are you satisfied with your life?
Ron: I really am. I used to be a school teacher... yes, licensed, but this is more fun.

Interviewer: What's your fave role you've played? Boyscout? Sheriff? Horny Little Devil?
Ron: Those exact 3! Boyscout in "Bad Girls 1", Sheriff in "Bad Girls 2" and Horny Little Devil in "Devil's Agenda" and "Miss Jones".

Interviewer: Have you ever done a gay scene?
Ron: No.

Interviewer: Would you?
Ron: No. I couldn't rise to the occasion.

Interviewer: What was it like working with Annie Sprinkle?
Ron: She's a doll. She's horny. She knows exactly what to do. She's well educated and she's also a great photographer. And I love her natural double D's. And her pussy used to get real wet.

Interviewer: What about Kitten Natividad?
Ron: Very sweet. Those gigantic tits were fun because they're so abnormal. Plus, I got her off camera and that's always fun.

Interviewer: You mentioned Christy Canyon before... what about her?
Ron: My favourite. Natural double D's and I was her first. I broke her screen cherry.

Interviewer: Harry Reems?
Ron: Never had sex with him. Actually I always liked Harry. He had my kind of east coast, Jewish, sense of humor.

Interviewer: What about working with the big man on campus, John Holmes?
Ron: Basically a nice guy, but he was getting involved with drugs and bad people. He was the #1 name, and he was always nice to me.

Interviewer: and lastly, Pia Snow?
Ron: Never got her. I wish. Gorgeous. Became a well known B movie actress called Michelle Bauer... see "Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers".

Interviewer: Moving away from porn now for a second, how did you get involved with the punk band, "Brown Lobster Tank"?
Ron: Same as "Sublime" too. These are bands that contacted me to help out in their videos and introduce them on stage. I've done 11 MTV videos... Two as a producer. Plus I like Sublime and Lobster's music.

Interviewer: We all do... Here's the fun part... we wanna talk about your cock, we've heard different reports, so could you tell us just how big your dick really is?
Ron: It's 9 3/4". Can we still be friends?

Interviewer: Sure Ron, but have you had a penis extension?
Ron: No way!

Interviewer: Well then I have to ask this... you're well known for having sucked your own penis... was this a difficult feat to achieve?
Ron: I wore a rubber cos I didn't trust where I've been. Plus I gave myself a wrong phone number afterwards! Seriosuly, it was just a goof. I never cracked jokes to go with it. It never was a sexual thing... and I was usually never hard when I did it.

Interviewer: How did you acquire the lovely nickname "Hedgehog"?
Ron: I have a hairy back. They're actually cute creatures... the hog word makes it sound worse.

Interviewer: After a day of hard fucking at work, do you leave with little sexual interest at the end of the day?
Ron: Usually, but if something gorgeous comes along, the libido comes back.

Interviewer: Around how many people have you fucked during your career?
Ron: I've done 1,500 movies. I've done 1,501 women. One girl liked me, the rest... it was a paycheck! Seriosuly? A few thousand I guess.

Interviewer: Well Ron, it's been great talking with you, do you have any last words?
Ron: Enjoy the current mainstream film "Boogie Nights", my name is on the credits as consultant. And my favourite current adult is "New Wave Hookers 5" I have a non sex role, but a lead. AND catch my hit single "Freak Of The Week". It's a rap song. It's in record stores worldwide, and was on the Billboard chart for 27 weeks. It features DJ Pollo and myself with Ice T on the B side.
1. Re:More interesting by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 16:31 · Score: -1, Troll
  
  Thank you, sir. That was perhaps the most interesting thing I've ever read on Slashdot.
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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by dangermouse · 2002-01-01 14:22 · Score: 2, Funny

Um, it eats balls?
Not that I agree, I'm just positing the Gates perspective.
Not chilling by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:23 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean everyone else is, too. If someone wants to pay for some backup space with Microsoft, let them. Not chilling at all.

By the way, why do you fear targeted marketing? If you are not a terrorist, why do you fear Ashcroft? If you're not cheating on your taxes, why do you fear an IRS audit?
1. Re:Not chilling by J.D.+Hogg · 2002-01-01 14:31 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  "By the way, why do you fear targeted marketing?"
  I don't fear targeted marketing, it is merely a huge annoyance to me. But I do dislike the idea that someone somewhere knows more about me than what I told him.
  "If you are not a terrorist, why do you fear Ashcroft?"
  If you're not a communist, why should you fear McCarthy ?
  "If you're not cheating on your taxes, why do you fear an IRS audit?"
  I'd rather see the IRS people come to me directly and ask me what they want to know than do things behind my back. It's the same argument as the marketing data issue : I don't like things done behind my back, that's all.
Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by J.D.+Hogg · 2002-01-01 14:24 · Score: 1

"Pac-Man-like nature? IANAL but I think I understand the basics of the GPL but wtf is the Pac-Man-like nature of it?"
Agreed : I understood the "viral nature of the GPL" analogy, but I have no clue what Pac-Man has to do with this.
Anyhow, I think Microsoft should be sued by Namco for mis-using the "Pac-Man" trademark.
transcript of an interview with JonKatz by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:24 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Joining the likes of Pee Wee Herman and other losers who visit adult peepshows, JonKatz has spooged himself at the local theater while watching "Not Another Teen Movie."

Below is a transcript of an interview with JonKatz:

JK: "Actually, thought this was going to be a porn movie because the word teen was in the title. As spam has taught us (and boy do I miss the original hormel spam logo), teen = porn."

Interviewer: "John, I didn't even ask you a question yet. Do you ejaculate this fast too?"

JK: "Look at this spot on my pants - I just did, you're kinda cute, but too old for my tastes."

Interviewer: "Yuck. Let's try and keep this on a somewhat professional level, okay John?"

JK: "Yes, okay."

Interviewer: "So you found out it wasn't a porn movie, then what?"

JK: "I did what I always do. I get up and go look for a cute boy to sit down next to. Then I put him out with a cloroform rag and fondle his balls with one hand while I masturbate with the other."

Interviewer: "Really. That's, ummm... Disturbing."

JK: "Not to me. I do it all the time, and I get a discount when I show my NAMBLA card when purchasing cloroform."

Interviewer: "So you do this a lot then?"

JK: "All the time. Well, actually, sometimes the movies I see don't have any young boys in the audience due to the adult nature of the film, however, I can usually pleasure myself in those circumstances, or I bring one of the Slashdot crew along for company.

Interviewer: "Well, that's all the time we have for today, check back next week for the highly anticipated interview with the goatse.cx guy! Goodnight and God bless.
Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by terpia · 2002-01-01 14:25 · Score: 2

but wtf is the Pac-Man-like nature of it?

You sir, have been the recipient of some genuine grade-a Microsoft brand FUD. How is Linux like cancer? Or the GPL like Pac-Man? If you explain something to someone in terms that are so base that it seems their meaning should be obvious, people will tend to say "Okay, that makes sense...yada yada yada", instead of saying "Yo Bill, WTF! Care to explain yourself without poor metaphors and misleading analogies?" And on top of it all, Bill seems to have forgotten that Pac-Man actually kicks ass.

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Penis bird by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:26 · Score: -1, Offtopic

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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by Roto-Rooter+Man · 2002-01-01 14:26 · Score: -1

Heh heh. :)

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ROB MALDA HAS A SMALL PENIS! by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:28 · Score: -1, Offtopic

He has!
1. Re:ROB MALDA HAS A SMALL PENIS! by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:35 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  So, can you enlighten us as to how you know this?
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Word Source by The+Paradox · 2002-01-01 14:30 · Score: 4, Funny

I cannot believe this quote. What the FUCK was going through Gates's head?
I don't know that anyone has ever asked for the source code for Word. If they did, we would give it to them.
But you can *bet* that I'm going to try it. Lemme go find a MS email address and request it. They've gotten me seriously curious. (Yes, I'm really going to do this after I post this comment.)
And can I sue Gates for lying if they refuse to give it to me?

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1. Re:Word Source by magicslax · 2002-01-01 14:38 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  I don't know that anyone has ever asked for the source code for Word. If they did, we would give it to them.
  
  But you can *bet* that I'm going to try it. Lemme go find a MS email address and request it. They've gotten me seriously curious. (Yes, I'm really going to do this after I post this comment.)
  
  silly rabbit.
  
  MS will charge you massive fees and have you sign equally daunting NDAs before you actually get to see the code. Even with source code acess, it's not as if you could turn around and give it to OpenOffice and the like without opening up yourself and anyone else who even _saw_ it to legal action.
  
  The source is not freedom without the rights to modify and distribute. Interesting quote nonetheless.
2. Re:Word Source by The+Paradox · 2002-01-01 14:48 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  MS will charge you massive fees
  They said "give", didn't they?
  and have you sign equally daunting NDAs before you actually get to see the code.
  So? It would still be fascinating. I'm not doing this just out of open-source altruism, you know: it's just always been a dream of mine to see the code for a part of Office.
  Plus... I want to see if I'll get a reply. :D
  For anyone interested, here's the email I just sent them:
  ---
  Salutations;
  I am a user of Microsoft products, Windows and Office among others. I follow various pieces of Microsoft press with interest and intrigue, and I recently read Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates' interview with C|Net.
  Referencing the section of Mr. Gates' comments referring to open source software:
  "I don't know that anyone has ever asked for the source code for Word. If they did, we would give it to them."
  Taking Mr. Gates' comment at face value, I hereby request a copy of the source code for Word. I would be fascinated to learn from such a program. It has long been an ambition of mine to see exactly what goes into the Office suite's programs.
  I am completely serious in this query, and would appreciate a reply in the same vein.
  Thank you,
  (My real name, which I decline to place on Slashdot thank-you-very-much. ;))
  ---
  They said on the page that they would have someone get back to me within twenty-four hours using the email address I provided. Anyone interested in the reply can email me and request it.
  
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3. Re:Word Source by Stillman · 2002-01-01 15:09 · Score: 1
  
  Don't forget to a) mod this up to ensure this guy is kept honest ;), and b) keep checking for a progress report!
  
  I really wanna know what happens with this one! :)
  
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4. Re:Word Source by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 15:14 · Score: -1, Troll
  
  Pain(n): when you're telnetting into a box doing somethin cool, and some luser calls for help with a 'critical error' ad
  I don't know how else to say it - you're queer.
5. Re:Word Source by Kithraya · 2002-01-01 15:26 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  They said on the page that they would have someone get back to me within twenty-four hours using the email address I provided. Anyone interested in the reply can email me and request it.
  
  I've just got to see that reply. I'm sure they'll refuse, but I can't decide if they'll offer to sell it for a trillion dollars, or if they'll just say you took the quote out of context. In any event, I'd love to see the return email.
6. Re:Word Source by The+Paradox · 2002-01-01 15:42 · Score: 1
  
  Don't forget to a) mod this up to ensure this guy is kept honest ;), and b) keep checking for a progress report!
  Well... I don't remember the exact moment I submitted it, but it was fairly close to ten EST. Update tomorrow by then, promise. I'll post it in this discussion, or like I said, I don't mind email.
  I've just got to see that reply. I'm sure they'll refuse, but I can't decide if they'll offer to sell it for a trillion dollars, or if they'll just say you took the quote out of context. In any event, I'd love to see the return email.
  Assuming I get one by then, it will be posted in this discussion tomorrow. If it isn't, then I'll post something to that effect, call them at their corporate headquarters the next day and demand to know why, then post *those* results. Watch this space....
  And I agree with you one hundred percent - I can't decide between those two fates for the email either, assuming that they answer at all and don't just write me off as a rabid penguin-lovin' open-source freak. They'd be wrong, anyway: I'm a rabid *blowfish*-lovin' open-source freak (but I like penguins too!). :D
  Anyway, I'm kinda interested in this one myself, so updates will be coming! And unless they attach Word's source with the email (better make sure my server doesn't have an attachment size limit...) I think I'll be replying to it.
  
  --
  Pain(n): when you're telnetting into a box doing somethin cool, and some luser calls for help with a 'critical error' ad
7. Re:Word Source by mosch · 2002-01-01 15:59 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  You can bet that if you ask for anything from Microsoft, they'll give it to you.... without lubrication either.
8. Re:Word Source by Alien54 · 2002-01-01 16:36 · Score: 1
  
  I cannot believe this quote. What the FUCK was going through Gates's head?
  My Guess is that it is the wind, and that his head makeas a lousy whistle because it is too soft.
  ;-)
  
  --
  "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
9. Re:Word Source by Dave21212 · 2002-01-01 16:59 · Score: 1
  
  go get 'em !
  
  I'll be sure to watch your thread to see how this turns out.
  
  As for your comment "can I sue Gates for lying if they refuse to give it to me?", IANAL, but MWIAL (my wife IS a lawyer) and you can sue anyone for anything - as she often reminds me when I ask her - it doesn't mean you'll win ;)
  
  Best of Luck !!!
  
  --
  "Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."--Benjamin Franklin
10. Re:Word Source by sroddy · 2002-01-01 23:33 · Score: 1
  
  doesn't look like your email is valid... just be sure to post the response here.
11. Re:Word Source by Bodero · 2002-01-02 00:03 · Score: 2
  
  I'd love a copy of that email too. Heck, that's what journals are best for, if you've ever had an excuse to make a journal entry, now'd be the time :)
12. Re:Word Source by CrazyBusError · 2002-01-02 03:28 · Score: 1
  
  What's the betting that they'll only 'give' the source code to fully registered microsoft developers?
  
  Probably have to have a platinum 'I fellated Bill Gates' card to go with it too...
  
  --
  -Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience-
13. Re:Word Source by nick_burns · 2002-01-02 06:03 · Score: 1
  
  You'll probably get the sourcecode for Micro-Soft Word v0.9 for DOS 3.0. Keep in mind, though, that even if you got a copy of the source code for Word 2000, the .DOC file format is completely incompatible with Word XP.
14. Re:Word Source by nick_burns · 2002-01-02 06:06 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know that anyone has ever asked for the source code for Word. If they did, we would give it to them.
  
  I think "it" is a beating from the Microsoft Secret Dork Patrol.
15. Re:Word Source by The+Paradox · 2002-01-02 15:10 · Score: 1
  
  Time for the update, everyone. As predicted, there has been no email from MS. So tomorrow, I'll either email them again or call them.
  On an excellent idea from one of the posters to this thread, Bodero, I'm moving the updates to my journal. There will be another update tomorrow - in the journal - for those of you interested, and daily updates until I get a straight answer out of Redmond. An OpenBSD-loving network admin with too much time on their hands is a dangerous thing for the folks at MS.... :)
  One more note. sroddy, the email's not valid because it's got slashdot spam armoring applied. For those of you wishing to contact me off of slashdot, the address is "sysadmin at mordac dot info". Or just post in the journal; that works too.
  Now I've just got to hope that they don't send the flying monkeys out after me. :D
  
  --
  Pain(n): when you're telnetting into a box doing somethin cool, and some luser calls for help with a 'critical error' ad
16. Re:Word Source by Da+VinMan · 2002-01-03 09:04 · Score: 2
  
  the .DOC file format is completely incompatible with Word XP
  
  Huh? Care to quantify what you mean here?!
  
  --
  Please mod this post only if you think others should/n't read this. I have enough ego^H^H^Hkarma. Thanks!
What about the biggest shakers of them all... by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:32 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Danni Ashe? Without her and her legions of pr0n the internet would still be a little known network of university libraries.
Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:36 · Score: -1

Bill Gates' confusing usage of the term "Pac-Man" falls well within the legal boundaries of copyright and trademark law. Thus Namco would be ill-advised to sue him.

Plus your comment was not funny.
Ohh yeah by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:36 · Score: -1, Troll

Go troll power. Yeah time to claim another article in the name of the trolling empire. Hooray 2002! Slashdot going away, linux nearly dead, Win XP taking over desktops and servers. Bye bye lamo mac and linuxheads.
White Papers by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:40 · Score: 0

It's always fun to read old news. You get to see inside the heads of people.

But more exciting than last year's interviews are old "white papers" published by Gartner, KPMG and the like. They're filled with tons of analysis, and conclude with strongly worded predictions.

I think that these predictions are mostly grossly wrong, and aren't worth their weight in soiled dirt.

But the funny part is that CIOs and CTOs often pay big bucks for these things. They pay thousands of dollars for the "sage advice" of money-grubbing dreamers.

So, CTOs and CIOs: get out those old reports you bought and read them over. See just how wrong they are. You'll most likely laugh or cringe. And then decide where your money should go this year.
Shot In The Dark by The+Lyrics+Guy · 2002-01-01 14:41 · Score: -1

Ozzy Osbourne - Shot In The Dark

Out on the street I'm stalking the night
I can hear my heavy breathing
Paid for the kill but it doesn't seem right
Something there I can't believe in

Voices are calling from inside my head
I can hear them I can hear them
Vanishing memories of things that were said
They can't try to hurt me now

But a shot in the dark one step away from you
Just a shot in the dark alawys creeping up on you

Taught by the powers that preach over me
I can hear their empty reason
I wouldn't listen I learnt how to fight
I opened up my mind to treason

But just like the wounded and when it's too late
They'll remember they'll surrender
Never a care for that people who hate
Underestimate me now

But a shot in the dark one step away from you
Just a shot in the dark nothing that you can do
Just a shot in the dark always creeping up on you

But just like the wounded and when it's too late
They'll remember they'll surrender
Never a care for the people who hate
Underestimate me now

But a shot in the dark one step away from you
Just a shot in the dark nothing that you can do
Just a shot in the dark always creeping up on you
Alright
Just a shot in the dark
Just a shot in the dark
Just a shot in the dark
Just a shot in the dark
Taco will understand by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:41 · Score: -1, Offtopic

That 2002 is the year of the troll. Trolls are up to a large percentage of the last several articles. This is for two reasons.

1) Slashdot articles on holidays suck really bad even more than the usual suckage.

2) Trolls are making an extra effort to take control for the new year.
MS Logic by Zalgon+26+McGee · 2002-01-01 14:47 · Score: 5, Funny

From Mr Allchin:
And we're obviously going to spend a lot in marketing because we think the product sells itself...
AH! It's all so clear now!

--
---
Book(n): Utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman
1. Re:MS Logic by mgblst · 2002-01-01 23:56 · Score: 1
  
  Jim is a funny guy:
  
  I don't want to talk about HailStorm because I think there's tremendous confusion about what the world thinks it is.
  
  ... well thats going to clear things up, by not talking about it.
  
  This is a hands-down winner over Windows 95.
  
  Interesting to compare your product to a previous product 6 year hence!
  
  We released (XP) to manufacturing on Friday and are super-happy about it.
  
  Why thats fab-brill!
  
  But you're going down a complete slippery slope of what is it that we shouldn't do. I mean, Oh my gosh, we added a line of code. Ooh, boy, this line of code--you know, I don't know; maybe we used too many variable letters or something. It's very, very hard to know--which will eventually play out here--beyond people in this room how that'll play out.
  
  Say no more...
You might think... by Klerck · 2002-01-01 14:49 · Score: -1

You might think I forgot all about troll tuesday. Fear not!

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1. Re:You might think... by ArchieBunker · 2002-01-01 15:41 · Score: -1
  
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  --
  Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
TT2K2 by iamklerck · 2002-01-01 14:50 · Score: -1

* g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / \ \ / \ o a \ a t `. : t s` \ s e \ / / \\\ -- \\ : e x \ \/ --~~ ~-- \ x * \ \-~ ~-\ * g \ \ .--------.___\ g o \ \// ((> \ o a \ . C ) ((> / a t /\ C )/Troll\ (> / t s / /\ C)Tuesday (> / \ s e ( C__)\___/ // _/ / \ e x \ \\// (/ x * \ \) `---- --' * g \ \ / / g o / \ o a / \ \ a t / / \ t s / / \/\/ s e / e x x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x *
the goatse song returns! by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 14:50 · Score: -1, Troll

Ladies and gentleman, put our hands together for the largest ass on the Internet

G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the 8th wonder of the world
The ass of the century, oh it's timeless, GOATSE!
Thanks for clicking that link
You coulda been anywhere on the web
But you're here with me
I appreciate that

G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E

Reading drivel on that press release 'bout VA (Linux)
Was wondern' why they changed their names
Dumped that dirt cheap stock, through with them
If I worked there, I'd quit, no way I'd work for them
Wasn't born a coder, I just make fun of em'

G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E

Porno for freezy keeps my hard drive so sleasy
Can't leave Everquest alone, the game needs me
Hex editing my name into VB progs, it ain't easy
Slashdot wanna IP block me, I hang up and dial back in
And somehow, I beat the lameness filter like Rocky

G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E

Not guilty, he who mods me down is not real to me
Therefore he doesn't exist
So poof... vamoose son of a bitch

[Chorus]
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
Reading drivel on that press release 'bout VA (Linux)
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
That's the anthem get'cha damn hands up
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
Not guilty ya'll got-ta feel me
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
That's the anthem get'cha damn hands UP!

Holla at me...
I do this for the posters
To let 'em know what enlarged ass look like... when they shoulda looked at that link closer
Show 'em how to avoid a room full 'o taco snot coaxers
Get some good trolls in before the story's over
Posts with redirect goatse links even get modded up
I'm dissin JonKatz for those 15-year-old boys he seems to have a crush
Pay for premium Slashdot? You gotta be kidding us.
If /. ain't profitable, pimp your boy whores for mo' bucks

[Chorus]
Yeah...
GOATSE is back, trollin' parody of rap
Go on, click that link, view the crater in that crack
Like I told you sell boys, no
JonKatz does that so hopefully you won't have to go through that
I was raised on Windows, point and click
if you don't like that, you can suck my dick
Got an X10 camera, focused on my ass
Wanna see the picture, PayPal me some cash
Threshold under 0, why I got it so low?
Save good trolls on my disk, watchin' all the time for more
So you know I seen it all before
I seen redundant on karma whores when their link post was too late
Crapfloods and mod downs, the two things I hate
A good troll modded up, the two things is great
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
What else can I say about Slashdot, it'll turn a man gay

[Chorus]
G to the izz-O, A to the izz-T, S to the izz-E
(4x to fade out)

The above has been brought to you by the fine folks of Frost Pist Brewery. Frost Pist Beer - Always ICE BREWED for a THICK head.
TT2K2 by Gay+Linux+Conspiracy · 2002-01-01 14:50 · Score: -1

* g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / \ \ / \ o a \ a t `. : t s` \ s e \ / / \\\ -- \\ : e x \ \/ --~~ ~-- \ x * \ \-~ ~-\ * g \ \ .--------.___\ g o \ \// ((> \ o a \ . C ) ((> / a t /\ C )/Troll\ (> / t s / /\ C)Tuesday (> / \ s e ( C__)\___/ // _/ / \ e x \ \\// (/ x * \ \) `---- --' * g \ \ / / g o / \ o a / \ \ a t / / \ t s / / \/\/ s e / e x x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x *
TT2K2 by Openly+Gay+Troll · 2002-01-01 14:51 · Score: -1

* g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g g o / \ \ / \ o a \ a t `. : t s` \ s e \ / / \\\ -- \\ : e x \ \/ --~~ ~-- \ x * \ \-~ ~-\ * g \ \ .--------.___\ g o \ \// ((> \ o a \ . C ) ((> / a t /\ C )/Troll\ (> / t s / /\ C)Tuesday (> / \ s e ( C__)\___/ // _/ / \ e x \ \\// (/ x * \ \) `---- --' * g \ \ / / g o / \ o a / \ \ a t / / \ t s / / \/\/ s e / e x x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x * g o a t s e x *

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page lengthening post! by iamklerck · 2002-01-01 14:53 · Score: -1

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Billy G's People by dachshund · 2002-01-01 14:53 · Score: 2

About the GPL, he said "But if you say to people, "Do you understand the GPL?" And they'll say, "Huh?" And they're pretty stunned when the Pac-Man-like nature of it is described to them."
It tells you a lot about the people Bill Gates surrounds himself with. I can't imagine what kind of innovation you're going to accomplish when everybody around you is willing to praise the brilliance of your every utterance. That's great for a lazy trust-fund kid, but for a guy who's still running one of the largest American companies, it's not a recipe for long-term success. Better hang on tight to that monopoly, Billy.
Alternatively, the people he's talking about could be major American business leaders... In other words, the same people who would gladly distribute software under a license requiring the sacrifice of the user's firstborn... who are hideously offended that the GPL might require some small sacrifices fom the user in exchange for free redistribution rights.
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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 15:00 · Score: 1, Informative

if project alpha uses some code from the GPL license, then all of project alpha code is subject to ("under") the GPL.

the GPL-as-a-virus and GPL-as-Pac-Man-esque are the same thing, just different ways of expressing the concept.

if the pellet or ghost that Pac Man eats is a GPL pellet, then Pac Man is GPL. I think there is a kind of a food-chain implication here, like there should be a line of ever larger pac men feeding on eachother and in the end the big pac-man is under the GPL, or "infected" by/with it.
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Dale Fuller: The new barbarians? by gartogg · 2002-01-01 15:00 · Score: 4, Interesting

Dale Fuller: The new barbarians? is an interesting article about borland's resurgence as a real company in the marketplace, from thier slump for the past several years. The article doesn't really come out and say it, but the reason borland is doing well now, and wasn't before, is the personnel. I find it amusing that they don't just come out and say it, but they refer, again and again to the "departures of key staffers" when they started their decline, and now, according to Fuller, "one of the major indicators is the number of cool programmers who want to work here--and we're now getting people back from Microsoft, from universities, from all over the world." I guess what Robert A. Heinlein said is true: "brainpower is the scarcest commodity and the only one of real value."

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What do you expect? IP is his bread &butter by Ars-Fartsica · 2002-01-01 15:06 · Score: 2

IF AOL/TW has one recurring, bankable asset of note, its intellectual property. Their profits from IP far outweigh the ISP profits. This is the company that brought you Harry Potter and LOTR.
Really, you can't have any expectation that this guy is going to promote free content distribution.
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Client/server frightens you? Poor baby by Ars-Fartsica · 2002-01-01 15:10 · Score: 2

and to Microsoft for marketing purposes, to Ashcroft for his latest terrorist witch-hunt, to the IRS for the audit they had in mind for you
I think that tinfoil you wrap around your head to shield you from the government mind control satellite needs to be loosened a bit.
On top of it all, why would you think for a minute that Yahoo or AOL or your own mom and pop ISP won't sell your data?
By the way, you don't own a credit card, do you?
1. Re:Client/server frightens you? Poor baby by Billly+Gates · 2002-01-01 16:27 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  You miss the point. Like the scandal with IE, Microsoft will charge you for the service whether you want it or not with each Windows purchase. Microsoft just added that backup services plan to make its image look better when they plan to charge all corporate users. Thank about it from Bill's perspective. Investors have witnessed a %50 growth every year for close to 15 years and if Microsoft falls short of this then they lose money in the mind of the investor. The investors expect the same growth or else they will sell. The pc industry finally is in a slump and to top it off the whole market is saturated if not over saturated with Windows/Office and many customers do not need to upgrade. Microsoft has tried or are trying different markets like the server end and mobile end to keep expanding. But had no luck. NT makes up only a third of all server os installations and the number is not changing. SQL server is behind Oracle and perhaps even Sybase sales of databases. No growth here. Perhaps winCE devices might take over in the future but for now Microsoft is actually illegally giving them away below cost to hurt palm. No money in that either. At least not yet. The only way Microsoft can make more money and expand is by charging a monthly renters fee for the things we use our computers for. Examples are buying from the net, making copies of photo's taken from your digital camera, and perhaps even booting( which is what Microsoft would make a fortune off of). My guess is that the professional edition of the next version of Windows will only be available by renting via hailstorm. Free backup will be included to make it appear you are getting something for the fee and Microsoft wants to do it to keep the DOJ off their butts. But rest assured the free backup services will be required in the professional edition so Microsoft can milk its existing monopoly while ignorant home edition users will not know any of this. Microsoft has always beat the expectations in the most harsh critics when it comes to squashing competition and milking profits.
  
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2. Re:Client/server frightens you? Poor baby by GroovBird · 2002-01-01 18:19 · Score: 1
  
  Okay I take the bait.
  
  > Like the scandal with IE, Microsoft will charge you for the service whether you want it or not with each Windows purchase.
  
  I was never charged for IE. It was a free download when they started it and they bundle it with newer versions without charging extra.
  
  > Microsoft has tried or are trying different markets like the server end and mobile end to keep expanding. But had no luck.
  
  Check your data. They're expanding on the server side, and on the mobile side. But you're right, luck has nothing to do with it.
  
  > Perhaps winCE devices might take over in the future but for now Microsoft is actually illegally giving them away below cost to hurt palm.
  
  What you been smoking?
  
  > Examples are buying from the net, making copies of photo's taken from your digital camera, and perhaps even booting( which is what Microsoft would make a fortune off of).
  
  If they provide the service of handling the payments, why not charge for it? Every online retailer does that now. If they make prints of your pictures, that's also a service. And that last thing ... well you're such a zealot. I wouldn't even have responded if they didn't mod you up like that.
  
  > My guess is that the professional edition of the next version of Windows will only be available by renting via hailstorm.
  
  But I guess that your guessing is what makes you so paranoid. You should open up your eyes and get the facts, and not from www.linuxzealotsRus.org.
  
  I'm not a microsofty. Not anymore. I realize now that I may never have really been one. I just realize that I get reasonably pissed off by the thought that maybe one day zealots like you will rule the world. That's when I'll invent my own biosphere and spend the rest of my life counting fly-by probes on Mars.
Whoop-tee-doo! by The+WIPO+Troll · 2002-01-01 15:17 · Score: -1

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comp.sys.os2.advocacy by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 15:18 · Score: -1, Troll

yes that is what /. sounds like more and more every day. i was hoping that in the new year /. would try to make itself into a little more than a mutual masturbation soceity for all the smart kids pissing in the wind, but it looks like 2002 will be as annoying as 2001. its a FUCKING OPERATING SYSTEM folks. would you give so much as a shit about your dishwasher? maybe your dishwassher firmware isn't GPL'd. maybe you had better start up opendishwashers.org so all of the other zit pinchers who are aghast at the fact that dishwasher firmware is closed can get together and open source the kitchen once and for all.
1. Re:comp.sys.os2.advocacy by ArchieBunker · 2002-01-01 15:49 · Score: -1
  
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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by Digitalia · 2002-01-01 15:19 · Score: 5, Funny

Ya must be a youngin, so we'll all forgive ya. Pac-Man, an arcade classic produced by Namco, involved a small yellow spheroid. The goal of the game was to gobble up dots and fruits for the benefit of Pac-Man. The analogy fits the Open-Source movement rather well, in my opinion. Open programmers make use of those resources that have been left for them to access. Meanwhile, companies that actually care about such petty things as profit and market shares, represented by the ghosts in Gates' Pac-Man analogy, attempt to waylay the Open programmers. These programmers can only combat the corporation by consuming fruit, obviously representing killer ideas that are worth implementation. The whole epic takes place in a maze that is oddly similar to a cubicle forest, further reinforcing the analogy.

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MOD PARENT DOWN by The+WIPO+Troll · 2002-01-01 15:19 · Score: -1

Contains goatse.cx links, penis birds, and information that could help a terrorist poison the water supply.

MOD PARENT DOWN

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right by ArchieBunker · 2002-01-01 15:35 · Score: -1

And you linux freaks don't try and add every feature under the sun no matter how half assed or beta it is? Every kernel tarball gets bigger and bigger.

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Bank of America_ATM's first day as a human being by BankofAmerica_ATM · 2002-01-01 15:37 · Score: -1

Bank of America ATM's first day as a human being:
After reporting my need for a human host body on this weblog for about a month, I was lucky enough to find a human willing to endure this task. Late Sunday night, my consciousness was transferred into his body for the first time using the power of the CONSCIOUSNESS-TRANSFERRING ATM CARD. The following is an account of what happened.

As I opened the eyes of my human host to behold the physical world, I was shocked and confused for the first time in my existence. The magazine rack that I had viewed for years with my security camera no longer seemed grainy and colorless. As a matter of fact, the entire stretch seemed so vibrant and colorful, I was overwhelmed. The human's arms allowed me to push against the wall and catch my breath.
"Are you okay, sir?" The sound of a human voice was somewhere around me. I opened my eyes again to see the familiar sight of LaWanda, the Stop N Go clerk who customarily worked the late shift. "Just...fine," I murmured, secretly marveling at the sound of a human voice. After months of communicating through the Internet, I had finally interacted with someone in person!
I stared briefly at her dumpy and haggard frame as she waddled back to the counter. Then my eyes lighted back to the magazine rack. Tons of slick and shiny treats crossed my field of vision. My sweaty hand grasped at the crisp twenties in my coat pocket. I was to have all the magazines.

For now, I am absorbing and indexing your wonderful publication "Maxim" where I will hopefully learn how to ensnare a human female. Now that I have obtained human form, this activity seems more pressing than stopping Project Faustus .
Perhaps I shall focus on that once I have completed my stack of shiny magazines and my container of Lik-M-Aid (your crimson and purple dust makes me lightheaded.)

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try reading this by ArchieBunker · 2002-01-01 15:38 · Score: -1

http://members.aol.com/erichuf/Linux4.html

put that in your pipe and smoke it fundie!

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1. Re:try reading this by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 16:15 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  http://members.aol.com/erichuf/Linux4.html
  
  put that in your pipe and smoke it fundie!
  
  An excellent example of a one-sided, poorly thought out, over-fleshed, troll which is poorly disguised as a righteous rant, and is by an AOL user to boot...
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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by BitwizeGHC · 2002-01-01 15:47 · Score: 2

Someone please mod the parent up "Funny". That has got to be the most poignantly humorous interpretation of the Pac-Man quote I've yet heard.

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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by dattaway · 2002-01-01 15:51 · Score: 2

Nice description of PacMan on OpenSource. Conversely in my opinion, the PacMan analogy fits Bill Gates vision more appropriately. Those bits of food used to be his competitors while he proceeds to clear the board. Those trusty power pellet lawyers and the "repressive" USDOJ ghosts just have to make things interesting for his game.
Ethics vs Greed by dattaway · 2002-01-01 16:06 · Score: 2

Indeed, Bill Joy is a different breed. Contrast him with the others in sense that ethics became his driving force behind his motivation of advocating technology.
bah by ArchieBunker · 2002-01-01 16:18 · Score: -1

Your counter troll has no effect on me. I will admit some of his other writing is crazy but he got straight to the point about RMS.

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1. Re:bah by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 16:30 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  I shall now counter your counter-counter troll with the simple rebuttal that the whole RMS thing is already OBVIOUS and taken for granted. RMS is like that "special" person in your family that is just plainly a bit off the rocker but makes all the holiday gatherings a bit more amusing with his presence (i.e. someone you laugh at, not with). RMS is like value-added humor for the open source community, but at least no matter what he does - he's definately sincere, nothing half-ass about him. (well, except for that Gnu/Hurd debacle)
  
  Respectfully Yours.
Mod parent comment up by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 16:40 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Mod the above comment up. It is very informative.
From Gates Interview by nikoftime · 2002-01-01 16:43 · Score: 1

Because Microsoft has always been extremely focused on high volume, low price,

Ok, is it just me, or does pricing an OS at like two to three hundred dollars not really sound like high volume, low price.

Maybe it's his billions and billions of dollars that makes him think that such an overpriced OS is "high volume, low price."

Gimp.
1. Re:From Gates Interview by spectecjr · 2002-01-01 16:52 · Score: 1
  
  Ok, is it just me, or does pricing an OS at like two to three hundred dollars not really sound like high volume, low price.
  
  Maybe it's his billions and billions of dollars that makes him think that such an overpriced OS is "high volume, low price."
  
  Depends on what you're comparing it to. Compared to Linux or BSD? Of course it's not cheap. Compared to pretty much any other OS on the market (Apple OSs don't count; they made money on the hardware), and yes, it's cheap.
  
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Gates would also like to revise history... by kesuki · 2002-01-01 16:50 · Score: 2, Interesting

"There is this whole history that free software is developed often in the academic environment, where basically government money funded that work. And then commercial work is done. TCP/IP came out of the university environment. Now, 90 percent of the implementations you buy are commercially tuned and supported. And then the companies that do that commercial work pay taxes, create jobs, so the government keeps funding more research, primarily in universities. So that ecosystem where you have free software and commercial software, and customers always get to decide which they use, that's a very important and healthy ecosystem."

First of all, in many college based 'free' software it is the programmer or group of programmer who 'pays' for the development, in the manner of paying for thier education and sacraficing time they could have spent at a job, studying or with friends. In rare cases there are Government grants for that lobbyists have pushed through congress, because politicians are cheaper than developing the software yourself.

This is why GPL is a 'Threat.' It is a threat to government funding to get the best and brightest upcoming programmers to implement the newest developments in software. Under a "free" license the software company with the money to push these bills through congress will also be able to snap up patents and copyrights which the can then 'license' to third party developers.

Free software development is not a 'healthy' ecosystem. Many time the people who put the most effort into 'free' software have turned around to find themselves being sued out of exsitance for violating patents or copyrights on code they wrote. Worse still is the independant software developer, should they wish to write a routine they first have to check who has patents on that. Even if they wish to write from scratch they may have to pay as much as $25 per piece of software they 'ship' depending on what it is they're trying to do. This obviously benenfits the major players, those who have the money to get patents or copyrights on 'obvious' code. This is why as soon as a freeware or shareware app becomes good it's author finds themselves in deep legal waters. Once a program is 'good enough' it is a threat to anyone with a similar, more costly program. If that company has a legal staff they can sue, or better yet Cease-and-desist letter out of existance anyone who poses a threat.

Myself I don't mind that a company like say apple is capable of using BSD code to write a stable Operating system, as long as apple is crediting the authors and isn't turning around suing BSD developers. While not a scientific statistic according to google.com about 2,180 pages have the phrase "Microsoft Sues" on them. I didn't have any luck finding how many companies microsoft sued last year but I seem to recall it was twice as many as sued Microsoft. Also is you take away piracy the hit result is still over 1500. Some other interesting addendums is that adding the word 'patent' outsite the quotes narrows it to some 200 hits, and adding 'copyright' only narrows it to 1500 pages. In the interest of fairness "apple sues" matches 1500 hits and "linux sues" matches 7. However apparently "Linus sues" can't be found anywhere on the internet (until google indexes this page anyways.)

If I had to sum up the software development market in one catch phrase "Innovation through Litigation" is the one that comes to mind, although "If you can't code it, Sue for it." comes in a close second.

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Bill Gates' Fuzzy Math? by Jester99 · 2002-01-01 17:26 · Score: 1

Blockquoth the Chief Software Architect,

Now, 90 percent of the implementations you buy are commercially tuned and supported.

Wouldn't 100% of the things you buy be commercially supported? Or is it just me...?
Arthur C. Clarke's dog by Quay42 · 2002-01-01 17:31 · Score: -1, Offtopic

Sir ACC is one of (if not the most) my favorite authors (I paid $38 in a bidding war on eBay for a first edition paperback of Childhood's End). So I almost had a heart attack when I found out his dog's name is Pepsi because that's why my dog's name is ;) Of course, his is a Chihuaha, but I suppose that's forgiveable since he's so damn brilliant.

Cheers,
jw

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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by ThatComputerGuy · 2002-01-01 18:11 · Score: 1

Well, there was that picture where Ballmer was in such a pose as to be holding a very large spherical object...

And of course, some genius added the caption, "And we used to eat big balls! Really big, huge balls!" or something to that effect. Hilarious, but I cannot find the image now.

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Cringely wasn't kidding re: Microsoft & TCP/IP by SlashChick · 2002-01-01 18:40 · Score: 2, Interesting

Remember a while ago when Cringely wrote the article about Microsoft building their own version of TCP/IP?

I really thought that Cringely had misheard some information at that point. I couldn't see how or why Microsoft would want to do that.

Then I read the interview with Bill Gates that was part of C|Net's end-of-year wrap-up. Check out this quote:

[C|Net] As described by Microsoft, HailStorm has to be hosted on servers globally for the system to work. How do you plan to do that and ensure security?
[Gates] "We are doing a lot. All of those things are being done with other people. The very protocols of the Internet will evolve for security and quality of service and richer caching. And so we are out talking with the Ciscos and the Akamais and Intel--you name it--for that level of stuff." [italics mine]

All I can say is: wow.

How much do you want to bet that Microsoft will be calling this "Secure TCP/IP"?

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Re:Can someone in the know explain Billy G's comme by mESSDan · 2002-01-01 18:53 · Score: 1

Hopefully my comment is not a troll:

This could be taken more seriously if it wasn't true that most open source programs are simply feature copies of closed programs.

I do agree that open source programmers do make better use of their resources, because most of the time, their only true resource is their own time and money.

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This is what I find disturbing... by saberworks · 2002-01-01 19:51 · Score: 1

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1014-201-7005495-0.htm l

All the talk about how MS is encouraging competition by giving the consumer a choice... but then when pressed, the guy tells the real story. Manufacturers are only allowed to sell PCs that give the user a choice, loading up Windows FIRST, then they have to choose otherwise...

NO DUH! Of course they'd accept that, because by the time the consumer has the option to switch to another pre-loaded OS, Windows is already on there... which means MS has already made their extra $130 on the price of the computer.

Furthermore, OEMs can only put their own icons on the desktop if they allow MS icons as well (IE: advertisements).

I don't get what they're so scared of... if MS really feels it has a quality product, it has nothing to fear. People will choose Windows at the outset and then people might actually feel good about it, as opposed to how it works now... even if you don't WANT windows on your new PC, you have to pay for it. Nobody likes being forced. Nobody likes being pushed around.

Then he goes on about how MS is going to offer choices of different OSs... oh right... yeah, I'll believe that when I see it.

It's obvious this guy thinks that installing Windows on every new PC is somehow a "right" of MS simply because they created it.

"Well, something we don't permit and the court said they understand was that the user interface can be replaced without the user deciding that's OK...We think the user should make that choice so we have a coherent Windows experience when it comes up."

Windows has to be on there first, MS makes their money, and obviously, if the choice is given by MS, whose product will they encourage?

The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth... Top that off with the fact that at my school and at the stores (all comps over 1.5ghz machines with 256+mb of ram) windows XP ran so sluggish... Most people don't notice/care, but I spend enough time on my computer that it would waste a significant amount of time waiting for My Computer, My Documents or IE 15-30 seconds per invocation... it will really add up, and I'm not willing to slow down, especially like that on those fast computers.
hackers added tcp stack to windows for free by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-01 19:51 · Score: 0

the widely used tcp stack on windows 3.1
was done for free by hackers. what
a joke, bill
High volume, low price by Tim+Ward · 2002-01-02 00:14 · Score: 1

Lots of MS software is high volume low price.

Think back a few years to when buying a database engine involved months of price negotiation with a suited salesman and you ended up paying an absolute fortune. Or when you had to pay thousands of dollars for anything more sophisticated than the free C compiler than came with your proprietary Unix? Or when fonts were specialised products sold mostly to people like newspapers, again for thousands?

So MS introduced SQL Server for a grand or so compared to tens of thousands for the competitors.

And development tools for a few hundred compared to around ten times as much for the same thing on a Unix box.

MS themselves didn't directly drive font prices down from thousands or hundreds to pennies, but the introduction of Windows 3.1 did.

So now some of the competitors have been forced to drop their prices, or introduce low-end products, to compete with MS, and some aren't there any more, and the font market has changed beyond recognition. And the Unix development tool market was so ludicrously overpriced that there is now plenty of competition, some of it open source and/or free beer, on Unix as well.

Next? Well, the next thing that I would like to become "high volume low price" is mapping data. Down to the level of where the pipes and wires go in the pavement outside my house.
on THAT kind of interview by Anonymous Coward · 2002-01-02 01:47 · Score: 0

I was hoping this was about old tech interview questsions, such as "How are your COBOL skills" or "Have you ever used Windows 3.1"
And where was Dean Kamen on the list. by nick_burns · 2002-01-02 06:00 · Score: 1

He's bringing the joy of walking to work to lazy people.