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ISP Forced Out of Business by DoS
flyhmstr writes "According to a report on ISPReview Cloud Nine have been forced off line and out of business thanks to the actions of crackers deciding to go play with some DoS tools." It's only getting worse.
The kids are getting more and more aggressive as time goes on and
it gets easier and easier to launch a large scale DoS. As any
techie knows, fixing the problem is far easier said then done... but
as a frequent recipient of the sharp end of the DoS stick, I sure
wish it wasn't an issue.
of course a nice healthy slashdotting right now doesn't help anybody's case. :grin:
but as a frequent recipient of the sharp end of the DoS stick, I sure wish it wasn't an issue
.. no /. has never DOS-ed a site... really i swear..
ha ha ha.. this comming from the kingpen of DOS
"Shut up brain or ill stab you with a Q-tip" Homer Simpson
if my business plans didn't work out.
(Read the final paragraphs of the announcement. Why do they stress that they are solvent?)
Or in this case...
Programs don't kill servers, malformed packets kill servers.
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We had a DOS issue once,
Kinda funny actually, poorly done, we tracked down who it was, Unknown to the dimwit on his dads T1 (at home his dad was playing hosting provider) The admin at his upstream was a friend of mice accross town, I called paul up and said hey what you trying to pull here, he chuckeled and said I know, I know, I just saw the traffic, you wanna know who it is, you want me to cut him off ?, I said nah, leave him up, I dont want him to know I know, My friend kindly gave me his name and address,
I showed up at around 3:30 since I figured it was they guys kid, and he should be out of school by then, I took a friend(witness along) I didnt want this punk saying I beat him up or anything. I had a cell phone in one hand and rang the bell with th other, he came to the door and I said, right now the Police number is on this phone, I am good friends with a detective there(true) now, you either pull the plug on your end or I press send and well see how long it takes for them to come and pull the plug permanetly, although I dont think you dad would be real happy, I thought this kid was going to wet his pants, Ive only seen somebody so scared a few times, he fell back over a chair in the foyer and took off ? I looked at my friend and it was all we could do to keep a srtaiht face.
He came back 20 seconds later and said its off, and the n stared to enquire about if I was going to tell his dad, I said no but Im sure the bill from your provider will, He was on a transfer pricing plan and this had been going on over 2 weeks while I was on vacation.
I have "Knoked on doors" twive one was a 2 hour drive but I had other business in that area , most certainly the most effective DOS stoppages Ive ever had.
Maybe we should form an allicance of Administrators geographically dispersed to start knocking on their doors, sort of an Administrators Militia , you knock on his in BFI and Ill knock for you when you need it. Police scare the shit out of most of these script kiddies, probably more the fear of knowing being arrested is not something easy to hide from the parents that pay for their computers and bandwidth.
Sig went tro...aahemmm.....fishing........
If 1000 people walk down a backstreet past an empty building, 998 will just pass by. 2 will throw a rock through a window and spraypaint the walls.
And this is nothing new... Look at those paintings on the walls in caves in France (and elsewhere). Those things are thousands of years old.. Damn kids...
yeah, but that was before the release of Windows XP. This would never have happened if raw socket access was unavailable!
A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master merely stays out of the way.
Writing a DoS tool is not a crime.
This is true, if you know your boundries. You would get an "illegal operation" message if you tried to access more than 640K of memory.
Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
CP/M Was also forced out of business by DOS.
Both long-time residents of the English Language neighborhood - though they are not living on the same street - Than and Then were caught fighting in front of Then's house. Witnesses heard murderer Than screaming and sobbing at Then: "You're a fraud! I'm so much more adequate, so much more fitting than you! I can't believe he would choose you over and over again! And I just can't stand seeing you with him all the time! Argh!!!" Four gunshots were then heard.
Apparently, the two belligerants were fighting over the love of a certain CmdrTaco, whom never hid his preference for Then. When asked about the tragedy, CmdrTaco swore to the investigators that he had no recollection whatsoever of Than.
Programs don't kill servers, malformed packets kill servers.
Er, no. Malformed packets kill only badly written, insecure servers.
"This network protected by Hells Angels"
I'm sure other countries have similarly frightening organizations. A little donation to the club and an address to make a visit to - nonviolently. A little verbal warning might make a world of difference: Your online actions do have real world consequences.
What kind of idiotic ISP actually run DOS?!?!? If anyone does, of course it gets a DOS attack it deserves.