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Mega Public WAN In Sydney

Chris Meder writes: "As posted on CFGN - The Nation , gibed by the recent unreasonable price hikes in Broadband connectivity in Australia, which come already after a strained relationship between Broadband users and the major telco/ISP Telstra BigPond Internet, a group of people in the largest Australian metropolitan city of Sydney have decided to form a city wide amateur wireless network. The team behind this clever idea have also put up a detailed graphical database of people interested and are still looking for more numbers to get this off the ground." This last part reminds me of the Global Access Wireless Database, as featured here. Update: 01/23 18:53 GMT by T : Reader Peter Mann wrote to point out that "there's a mailing list for a similar wireless project in Sydney at http://sydney.air.net.au."

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  1. This isn't the first by yobbo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Melbourne has had it's own wireless network running, as have other cities in australia. Visit air.net.au for an idea of other projects which have been going for much longer.

  2. Re:who will be their provider? by Robotech_Master · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, the link didn't say anything about connection to the Internet as a whole, it seemed to focus more on creating a "humongous LAN".

    Of course, they'll probably get Internet access somehow, whether it's buying a line legitimately or piggybacking on the broadband connections of the few people on it who still buy them.

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  3. Sydney LAN information by Metrollica · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look here for information on the Sydney LAN.

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  4. Re:who will be their provider? by arsaspe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Telstra isn't the only internet backbone provider in Australia... They are the largest, only because they are the dominant phone company.

    There is also Optus, who provide excellent service and are slowly taking over Telstras business.
    Ozemail/UUNet, sucky, overpriced, but still alive and kicking
    Primus - Small, but I'm pretty sure they have there own link
    There was also one.net, but it recently went broke

  5. www.air.net.au by bug1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Correction to the url above

  6. Re:who will be their provider? by pbkg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also remember AAPT, which have every single Victorian Government link (or did), as well as a few other major links including Connect.com iirc. Also, Optus has the Southern Cross Link + the AARNET (ATM connection between every uni in Oz).

  7. Shameless whoring by Boiling_point_ · · Score: 4, Informative
    Other private networks exist around Australia, as brought to the collective (and my) attention by [JEB] in this post a couple of days ago.

    Non-exhaustive list:

    Adelaide

    Brisbane

    Gold Coast

    Melbourne

    Mudgee

    Perth

    Sydney

    Western Sydney

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    1. Re:Shameless whoring by DHR · · Score: 2, Informative
  8. Not Alone by The+Dread+Pirate+Rob · · Score: 4, Informative

    Crikey - there's at least four just in Perth!

    Perth: http://www.e3.com.au
    Perth: http://www.innaloo.net
    Perth: http://www.perthwireless.net
    Perth: http://www.lwn.net.au

    Never mind all the others around Oz
    Brisbane: http://www.brishmesh.net
    Melbourne: http://melbwireless.dyndns.org
    Gold Coast: http://www.xtreme.net.au
    Mudgee: http://hwy.com.au/~bigmoe/wlan

    Just to name a few... Do some damn research you Monkeys! Sydney Wireless is just one of at least 20 separate wireless groups in Australia.

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  9. If it olny covers Sydney... by gregorio · · Score: 1, Informative

    ..It's a MAN, not a WAN.

  10. Re:who will be their provider? by Woko · · Score: 2, Informative

    Primus - Small, but I'm pretty sure they have there own link

    Primus use Southern Cross for some international traffic and split the rest between Optus & Telstra. They run their own exchanges (mainly for voice) in at least Sydney & Melbourne.

    Optus has been spending a small fortune putting fiber between capitals and some regional centers to then onsell to the other telecoms and really cut into Telstra's market.

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  11. Re:Free Censorship then? by glwtta · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why is it that so many people think that the internet is censored in Australia? Websites hosted in Australia are, not the net.

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  12. brismesh.org is bigger. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In brisbane there are 397 nodes, and 25 active interfaces.

    Not so much excitement as there was a few months ago, as people move to actually get links active.

    Also much of the excitement died down when a few people started getting polical and beurocraticalness++

    But that is needed as people need to deal with the government. Much of brisbanes success is because of its organisation, and some very helpful people.

    Organisation, and helpfulness is the key to making these things work(plus having a telco which likes to shaft everyone helps with peoples motivation ;) If it wasn't for heaps of hills in brisbane, there would be more links I'm sure. I've got my two cards, and lap tops, just need to get the pig tails and construct a couple of aerials.


    http://brismesh.org/

  13. It's happening all over the place... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the UK: Consume http://consume.net/

    In Seattle: Seattle wireless: http://seattlewireless.net

    In New York: NYCWireless: http://nycwireless.net

    etc etc.

    For more info have a look at FreeNetworks: http://freenetworks.org/

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  14. Re:who will be their provider? by TeraCo · · Score: 3, Informative
    You are right, the majority of 'wholesale' bandwidth is still owned by Telstra. It is a monopoly, and would be a bad one, if the ACCC weren't watching them for signs of non-competitive behavior. This is why bigpond costs so much, they have to buy their bandwidth from wholesale at the same price wholesale sells it to all of the other ISPs.

    There are very few other carrier grade links coming into Australia [excluding dodgy satellite stuff] it's still mostly owned by Telstra and Optus.

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  15. Re:What? by gregorio · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not me who's saying that, that's just how things are, you can seet it here
    You can also find good stuff about it at google.

  16. Re:that's just great. by evilbuny · · Score: 2, Informative

    ok a few pointers, 1 this is an intranet, and all likely hood won't have much if any official direct/indirect internet access as this is a very grey area of the law and the ACA is the likely to stop us any way, however this said, a group in perth have a dsl link to WAIX (western australian Internet eXchange) for local to that location traffic, basicly any ISP/biz linked into that building. Thanks to who ever posted this as the site has recieved an overwhelming response will help trying to convince companies to help sponsor/support our little project. Once we have our first AP up, there will be a testing/meeting day to be announced, so we can all get togeather and really tryout the tech in the area. So stay tuned to http://www.sydneywireless.com for future updates.