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Mandrake Releases 8.2 Beta
joestar writes: "As seen at Mandrake's website, Mandrake Linux 8.2 Beta seems to be available for download at different places. The new features include the ability to install a Mandrake as small as 65Mb on the HD, and encrypted file-system support. I guess it's the good time to report all bugs we don't want to see in the final version. Very promising release, worth a look at!"
Why didn't they just wait until April for KDE 3.0 to come out? Or are they going to release Mandrake 8.3beta at that time?
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Mandrake has always been good to me on the install, (it autodetected my weirdo soundblaster board, that RH would have nothing to do with).
:)
My mother actually read the handbook that came along with Mandrake 8.1, when i came home one day she asked me for an account. All i can say is that Mandrake definately has quality, i can't wait to see 8.2 in the stores
can't fight against the youth.
So what are the real advantages of Mandrake? I'm currently running Red Hat. I have a friend who is religious about SuSe because it confoms more to the old-school Unix configuration scheme. What makes Mandrake popular?
Obviously, these new tools need a lot of testing. In particular, scannerdrake has only been on the little number of scanners we got in the lab...
Of course you will also find all the newest versions of famous packages:
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Mandrake has lost their position as "Newbie Linux of Choice".
While I use Mandrake and have purchased every standard version that they ever released, I really feel that Mandrake is being left behind in the useability department by the likes of SuSE and many of the upcoming newbiew friendly distros like Redmond Linux. The real nit that I have with Mandrake is total lack of cohesion between the Drake Applications. Many of these applications really pioneered new functionality for the linux desktop, but they haven't grown together like applications from KDE, Gnome, Ximian, etc. They all function/look/act differently.
Why hasn't someone inside of Mandrake taken pieces from the KDE and Gnome design standards and attempted to apply some uniformity between the applications that Mandrakes designs? It simply boggles the mind that tools like RPMDrake can be so poorly designed.
And what about ICONS!!!! The Mandrake icons and the menu system itself are both totally unprofessional. Can Mandrake afford to pay an icon designer who knows how to make icons in more than two shades of blue?
So what do we attribute the stagnification of Mandrake to? Is Mandrake's development model too open? No one within Mandrake has the guts or the brains to stand up and say: "No, we shouldn't be designed 20 applications that all look and function differently. There is a reason why KDE and Gnome came into existence." Then again, perhaps it is just the bureacratic chaos and momentum that surrounds Mandrake.
Mandrake 8.0 was the very first distro that I got to install cleanly right off the bat and allowed me to connect to my DSL immediately. I tried other distros, like Red Hat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0, but I had serious problems.
:)
8.0 was the PERFECT distro for a newbie like myself. It spared me the pain of having to configure my DSL and allowed me to immediately post questions and get responses from Linux help sites, like LinuxNewbie to get the answers I needed to my important questions. Although they are exlusive to Mandrake, I was quite impressed with the GUI tools, which, although I should really use the command-line equivalents, were of great help to me just starting out.
8.1 seemed even better than 8.0, but I later found out that it wouldn't automount my CD-ROM or floppy, and I couldn't use my CD-Writer at all. I tried all kinds of tricks, but nothing seemed to resolve the problem. Reluctantly, I switched back to 8.0, which I'm still using.
Now I'm debating whether to try out 8.2, or go for a more "pure" Linux distro, like Slackware. I feel as though I've hit a dead end as far as learning Linux goes. I have an old PC on hand, which will really help me to experiment.
I think even if I decide to switch to Slackware, I want to try Mandrake 8.2, for purely sentimental reasons
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I love MAnsdrake. I've been using their distro for a few yeas now but I installed the lastest Freq (dated 12-24-01) and have only one problem:
:-(
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for c++... c++
checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ -O2 ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[root@set kvirc]#
All compiler libraries, devel packages, etc. are installed. I hope this is fixed in this beta.
P.S. On this same machine it compiled perfectly fine until I installed this release...
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I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
When is RedHat 7.3 expected? After KDE3 in April?
I would imagine so. In fact, I'd go so far as to speculate that the next version of RedHat is not going to be 7.3 but rather 8.0 (yikes!).
If you take a look in the rawhide directory on your favourite mirror of the RedHat ftp, you'll see packages for KDE3 cvs builds, gcc3.1, and lots of other big changes that could break compatibility in not-so-surprising ways.
Many of the packages in there aren't simple installs on a 7.2 system anymore; the dependencies amongst them are too much. Either they require tens of core rawhide packages (i.e. a new glibc) to be installed, or in the case of the core packages, current 7.2 packages show incompatibilities.
Of course I may be completely wrong and the next RedHat *will* be 7.3 and all compatibility issues will be resolved by then (hey, rawhide *is* very beta!), but I wouldn't be surprised...
It's only software!
Mandrake 8.1 was extreamly easy to install. When my laptop arrived, I set my father up an account on it. I also left the install CD in the drive with that drive set to boot. My father, wanting to see what linux was all about, turned my computer on and ended up reinstalling the entire thing not knowing what he was doing.
Now that's an easy install!
Actually, I am pretty sure the next RH release will be 8.0. The RH release policy is to increase the major number when binary compability breaks, something that is closely linked to the glibc and gcc packages. If you look in Rawhide, you will notice that glibc is 2.2.90 (pre-2.3-release) and gcc is 3.1-0.x (pre-3.1-release), both of which break binary compability with the 7.x releases.
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