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Gingerman writes "The BBC is running a story about a full automated lifestyle centre in Wokingham UK. The centre has everything from the home to the office and includes shops too." It's a little thin on details, but its a mix of practical things that could be around the corner, and stuff that may be a little further down a 6 lane interstate.

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  1. Not this world... by Howie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too bad that a big assumption of the project is that providers of information on the web want to provide it in a format that is useful to an automated agent, when in reality they seem to do all they can to stop you making useful tools like these automated agents. Despite the development of things like XML, JINI and WSDL - all technologies designed to minimise the amount of customisation needed between strangers - the people who have this type of info aren't exactly jumping on those technologies.

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    1. Re:Not this world... by Snodgrass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're exactly right, and (for some reason) I was thinking about this very thing the other day.

      It seems to me the solution would be to make it worth it to the providers of that information. It's all about money, and providers don't play nice with automated agents because they take without giving back (clicking ads, etc.).

      I mean, maybe it could be setup in a way that you can pay a small subscription for certain services. Of course, it would have to be really convenient/neato for me to pay for something that I can get for free, but it's possible.

      As an example: I can jump on weather.com for free and see what the forecast is for the next couple of days, but I might pay $5 a month to be able to say "computer: what's the weather look like for this week" and get a detailed response spoken back to me. (that ranks pretty high on the neato scale :) )

      When it comes to convenience, it seems we as a society spare no expense. That seems to me to be the only way that this would ever really work.

  2. Don't know about you but... by nixadmin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any digital lifestyle assistant that woke me up early for ANY reason would find itself in little peices on the floor. Better: "I know you had a rough one last night, so I called your boss and convinced him to give you a Work From Home day. Go back to sleep."

  3. Simulated lifestyle? by somethingwicked · · Score: 4, Funny
    This thing offers a simulated lifestyle?

    /.ers will scurry from it like programmers from soap...*grin*

    Now, if they invent a device that washes your clothes when they are thrown on the floor and you can buy it for 50plat EQ currency, then they will have a geekhit on their hands...

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    1. Re:Simulated lifestyle? by BigJim.fr · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Now, if they invent a device that washes your
      > clothes when they are thrown on the floor and you
      > can buy it for 50plat EQ currency

      I've got one, it's called a wife. But it's much more expensive than the price point you're aiming for.

  4. Remember... by Chagatai · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This reminds me of all of the old Disney shows where they would show "The World of The Future!" where people would have pop-up refrigerators and TVs from their kitchen counters. Except this time it's being done by HP, and it looks like there is a 100% drop in the number of jetpacks and spaceships to Mars.

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  5. House of the future... by JPRelph · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The tone of the article just reminds me so much of those 1950's visions of future houses that would be fully automated and have robots to clean the dishes and wash the cats. There's just about one thing articles like this are good for, and thats for cheap laughs in about 50 years time.

  6. Uh oh! by NiftyNews · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you imagine if your lifestyle agent got a virus?

    Suddenly you come home and find 8000 pieces of French Toast on the floor (all cut neatly into quadrangles), your cat has been painted green and yellow, and you are now the proud owner of every pay-per-view movie every listed!

    No thanks, I'll just check the weather online instead.

  7. Call it flame bait...but... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are times when I want nothing more than to get away from anything computer related. I enjoy fly fishing for example. Just a rod,reel, and hopefully, some fish. I work on computers all damned day, and when I go home, the LAST thing I want is to have to interact with yet another computer. The tech is really cool, and I like the idea of seperating each into areas, work, home, etc...but what happens if you want to get away from it all? If this is their vision of the future, (and what else can it be?) then I hope they allow for those of us that don't *WANT* to be tied into the system all the time. Ok, now mod at your discretion.

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  8. Cooltown, RIAA/MPAA style by Dan+Crash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's five o'clock in the morning. The alarm beeps to life and a soft female voice with an American accent comes over the speakers:

    "I'm waking you 30 minutes early so you can change into your grey suit before the Copyright Police arrive to detain you. I've alerted them to the unauthorized copies of several Universal film properties I detected on your portable drive after you docked it last night, as required by the Intellectual Property Theft Act of 2009. Would you like me to play you some light rock as you get dressed? Current prices are $4.99 per half hour."

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    1. Re:Cooltown, RIAA/MPAA style by bughunter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Would you like me to play you some light rock as you get dressed? Current prices are $4.99 per half hour."

      This reflects my first thoughts upon reading this article -- how much will the subscription fees for all these services cost? Surely no one is going to sell you any commodity... no, everything will be licensed in a manner that wraps you up quite tidily so you have no rights whatsoever despite the fact that you pay more for the content than you do for the hardware it renders on.

      Let's read the story again and estimate as we go how much this will cost the typical CoolTown inhabitant each and every month in the not-too-far-distant future:

      • $2.95 - Time server subscription
      • $15.00 - 'Lolita' voice personality license
      • $4.95 - Traffic conditions subscription
      • $56.14 - Typical cost of "Lite Rock" at $4.99/30min using 30 min/day on weekdays
      • $40.00 - Shuttle pass with Realtime Bus Locator and ETA service
      • $69.99 - Residential broadband internet access and 3 realtime video email accounts
      • $30.00 - FCC fee for residential wireless network spectrum allocation
      • $19.95 - Wireless telephone service
      • $3.95 - Personal consumer preference profile registration
      • $6.75 - Access fees for personal consumer preference profile (3/wk at $0.50 each)
      • $4.16 - Monthly cost of season subscription to NFL scores and highlights

        And since "the first CoolTown centre was set up in California," let's put our hypothetical uberwired citizen there

      • $1.25 - CA internet operator's license fee, Class A ($15/yr)
      • $5.00 - CA Radiated Electromagnetic Energy Pollution Mitigation fee for ultrawideband residential wireless network
      • $15.00 - LA County Tarriff for subscription to interstate entertainment services
      • $75.00 - Mandatory Libel and Flame insurance

        Total average monthly cost: $350.09

      This is the reason that I don't have a cellphone, pager, wireless email terminal, personal video recorder, or other newfangled doodad. Hell, I don't even have cable. (Officially, that is.) All those little subscription fees add up, and before you know it, you're paying more for your "digital lifestyle" than you are for rent on your flat. And as service providers and content providers realize how digital rights management can wring more and more licensing fees out of the consumer, the situation is only going to get worse.
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  9. HP has much more info than the article... by bahtama · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, you know that they obviously have a webpage about it:

    http://www.cooltown.hp.com/

    Here is the open source codebase for some of it.
    http://www.cooltown.hp.com/dev/

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  10. A few points... by Unfallen · · Score: 3, Interesting
    For starters...


    Quote: "I'm waking you 30 minutes early"


    Anything that does that is clearly the Spawn of Satan's Spawn.


    "The important thing with this is that the web becomes the hub," explains Mr Burwood.


    ...as well as other web-centric ideals. Is this it then? The all-encompassing "Internet" has finally been superceded by the ever-evolving, designed-for-hypertext "web". Or I could just be too pedantic.


    What distresses me more is the banality which this vision of the future holds. "And on a Saturday afternoon, all it does is monitor the football results for you." Oh woohoo and other saracasm. Sure, there's plenty of talk here about how IT can make everything "easier" (and I'll believe it when I can put my hands through its sides), yet nothing about how we can reach out and achieve new experiences, interact with people and ideas that we never thought we'd even dream about...


    "Underlying all the elements of CoolTown is the potential of the internet to affect people's lives."


    Time to fulfil the potential, not mould it into the pap of society that seems to extrude from every firewalled port at the moment.