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How many anecdotes? Drestin writes "Looks like all the flame mail and traffic to WinInfo for the recent 'Windows more secure than Linux' article prompted it's author, Paul Thurrott, to reply with his opinion. He tells us to think with our heads, not our hearts."
Several readers complained about my original (since updated) headline, and they're all right. As Kathleen Ellis put it:
"I find this title to be rather misleading. Bugtraq is a security mailing list that happens to be archived on security focus' web site (it is also moderated by one of SecurityFocus' founders, but bugtraq content is not subjected to SecurityFocus editorial control), and WinInformant is really the one making the assertion, based on their analysis of Bugtraq list traffic.Here, why don't you pay? TheGeneration writes "Recently Salon had an article about public money being used to write private code (ie, for a university.) The article apparently moved Richard Stallman enough to write a response and opinion. Stallman sites his own reason for leaving MIT such as his inability to write free software while under their employ. Stallman discusses ways to sidestep University control of free software, and how to get admins to allow software developed under them to be licensed as free software."As an occasional SecurityFocus reader (and occasional writer), I am particularly concerned that your headline (and the attribution of the assertion to SecurityFocus) will make SecurityFocus look bad. As a professional in "the industry" and as someone who follows computer security very closely, I am confident most sensible members of the security community will quickly realize that the assertion is of extremely dubious merit and your attribution could make SecurityFocus look extremely foolish."
For your personal museum's display cases. airrage writes "As a follow-up to the early design docs for some of the earliest ATARI games. More fascinating, is the 30 Secrets of Atari. Did Jobs ever do any work? Finally, the creater of ATARI's adventure has a web site. Check out his work on virtual nano-technology and his presentation on creating Adventure. They sure didn't have much to work with did they?"
Connecting everything to everything. seanadams.com writes: "Our company has just published the firmware source code for our SliMP3 Ethernet MP3 player, previously reviewed on Slashdot. The firmware, written entirely in assembler, includes our super-compact TCP/IP stack for the 8-bit PIC microcontroller. The license allows for non-commercial use, so I hope this will be of interest to PIC hackers! If you're interested in experimenting with Ethernet and TCP/IP on the PIC, we will have an integrated PIC+CS8900 module and development kits available next month."
Next stop is telepathy. ruvreve writes "An update to a previous article featured here on Slashdot. Wellington is offering not only city-wide gigabit ethernet they are also offering wireless access. Currently it is still 11Mbps but plans are to make it 56Mbps down the road."
Not someone I'd want to mess with anyhow. yndrd writes "As a follow up to a previous Slashdot story about Harlan Ellison's feud with what he considers to be pirates of his work, Ellison has reached a settlement with Critical Path Inc. who will create software that enables Ellison to immediately delete postings of his work on the RemarQ service. The (somewhat) full article is here. He's still ready to rumble with America Online, the other party in his lawsuit."
The dirty side of quick n' dirty. nailgun writes: "http://www.maokhian.com/wireless/wap11.html has before-and-after oscilloscope traces of the spectra of a power-boosted (hacked) Linksys WAP. From the traces it is apparent that power-boosting does no good, since all (or nearly all) additional power is blasted out in neighboring frequencies. Boost your Linksys and you'll step on all other WAPs in the neighborhood. These are cool pictures too."
This took a survey to determine?An Anonymous Coward writes "Remember the Space Survey Thread? Where NASA was asking for our opinion on where to go in space? Well, the results are in. Lo and behold, we all want to go to Mars."
I see that currently that Wellington wireless speed is 11Mbps. This leads me to suspect that they are using the 802.11b standard, which is pretty widespread at this point (Airport, and numerous PC solutions). However, if they plan on going to 56 I wonder which one they will be using. 802.11a supports the much higher speed, but at a price of greatly reduced range. I guess it seems most likely that they will use one of the new standards, such 802.11g, info on which can be found here. This one runs in the 2.4GHz band, and is supposed to support 54Mbps. However, a final draft hasn't been approved.
It was an unbiased sample space...
91% Male
53% were between 15 and 35
And 83% of respondants accessed the web several times a day.
This goes to prove my point, the geeks shall inherit the Earth.
123987.
Don't you just love open source?
Is your company running tools written by ma
Jobs has always been an ass?
Didn't do his own work, and screwed Woz out of a bunch of money. I said it befor and I'll say it again, Jobs is only really good at 1 thing, riding other people coat tails. If not Woz then Microsoft.
I still want to get a G4.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
code developed with public money should be, well... public. On the other hand, Microsoft PCs would still be confined to LANs if it weren't for their leverage of the University funded, BSD-licensed TCP/IP stack (which has made Microsoft billions of dollars).
Perhaps publicly funded code needs a modified GPL type license that is free to use (even to run a business) but incurs significant royalties if the code is incorporated into commercial software products. I wonder if RMS would be OK with that?
It's just GNU, with Linux being only mentioned in passing. Is there no limit to this man's megalomania?
...and I quote:
For example, generalities (like "Windows is more secure than Linux") are barely defensible.[...] What I am trying to say is that Linux is not more secure than Windows.
So windows is not more secure than linux, and linux is not more secure than windows. They're exactly equal in security? Huh?
Tastes like burning! - Ralph Wiggum
I agree it's too bad he got a lot of "frothing" email. But I hardly think this response is a model of rationality either. He makes the point that compaines bet their future on Windows, and it wouldn't be true if it were "really so insecure." The same could be said about Linux. The fact that something is usuable does not mean it is more or less secure.
He states What I am trying to say is that Linux is not more secure than Windows. It's impossible.
That makes no sense. Of course it is possible for one system to be more secure than another. Maybe he means that you either are or aren't secure. OK, that's a valid point, but looking at the number of flaws discovered for a system in a given year gives you some idea of how likely it is that a new security flaw will be introduced in the future.
He also argues that fewer Linux vunerabilities are found because it is less widely deployed. I also think that this argument is invalid. Yes, fewer automated exploits are written against Linux vunerabilities because of this. Sure, this is why fewer Linux systems are broken into. However, I would argue that the communities of people who look for security vunerabilities on Windows and Linux are of comparable size, and large enough to find a comparable percentage of flaws.
The fact is, his original Short Take was simply blatantly incorrect in stating that for "the previous 5 years--for which the data is more complete--also shows that each year, Win2K and Windows NT had far fewer security vulnerabilities than Linux" The only way you can come up with that is by adding the numbers for each distrubution together, which is ridiculous (this same issue came up last summer).
Yes, the numbers show Win 2K beating RedHat last year. They also show a troubling increase in the number of Linux bugs in general. No, this issue shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Yes, I'm sure a lot of people were offended by this article because they thought with their heart. However, I would hardly call putting out insultingly incorrect statements "thinking with your head"
For those of us that had no idea what they were talking about...
Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste.
James Brents
Heh, 91% of voters in the space poll was male. Who could have thought that?
Why go again? All of these missions to moons or planets just turn into a really expensive way to litter. If these things came back, that would be worth it. The learning of how to design spacecraft would be greatly advanced if something came back into Earth orbit, was retrieved by a shuttle, and brought back to a lab on Earth to be tested. Maybe then, NASA could learn from their mistakes, and design something that actually works, all the time, as designed. We spend billions of dolllars on a budget that sends things into space, and hope/pray it woorks, without really knowing. And accepting the fact that it will not be comng back?! And why do we want to learn so much about Mars? To colonize it? That would be a disaster with current technology, and thinking, at NASA. Not to mentio the problems we have on Earth currently. How about pushing the focus of living on Mars, to that of living on a clean Earth? We are starting to go on the right direction. Fix us first, then colonize.
Those pics of the 802.11b hub's emissions were from a spectrum analyzer, not an oscilloscope.
Read on below to find out more about Harlan Ellison's battle copyright infringers
:-)
hmmm... are "battle infringers" like Battle Bots? Are they now putting copyright infringers in a closed arena and letting them pound each other?
Sounds like an idea hatched by the RIAA.
Wow! 54,000... all linked from slashdot. At least 57% wanted the 'www' to provide space exploration information.
Maybe pop-ups and banner ads? Flash and techno beats? Maybe a popular boy band?
Right now you've only got 54,000 people at the site [or more, these people didn't feel the need to provide input]. Space is Cool![tm]
When will it catch on?
Get your Unix fortune now!
Well, I can certainly imagine an experiment where two or more people had implants connected to their nervous systems that could send and receive signals over this new bandwidth - even if you could only have "on" and "off", you could still use Morse code or something - but I don't see this being directly suggested by that entry...
Where does it lead? You guessed it. DEATH OF USENET. FILM AT 11.
CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.
Establish permanent robotic outposts on other planets 4.8 12%
Tied with "Learn lessons about the Earth by studying other planets" for overall score [4.8]. But lost to Colonization and Safety. Both considerable needs, but I see outposts as gateways to other areas.
If we started with the ISS, and moved to outposts on Mars [the top vote getter]. Where else can we go? We can move further out, maybe even establish communities on the way.
Why not?
Bio-domes. Whatever. But having those stepping stones is what is important. Go from ISS, to the Moon to Mars. Let's get past BattleBots and Robotica. US First, or First as it's now known shows potential for being able to develop robots who help each other solve problems.
Let's see a prime time game show which has something to build and have people try to build it. NASA should fund robotic development in order to have these outposts and stepping stones.
Where are we? Not close. Could we be a lot closer? I think so.
my 2 sense.
Get your Unix fortune now!
When I think of the name Nasa I think of a company that will never go out of business, I believe that because it basicly has no competition. Why is nasa the only company sending people to space(in the us?) hopefully some day it will be as common as our airports. We need competition, I bet if nasa had competition we would already be on mars. thats just my two sence
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Hm, looks like they really went back in time! far out, dude.
"Hey, cool!! A Banner! Let's click..."
Don't click here. BT will enforce intellectual rights and sue for eac
Ellison's copyright infringement action is continuing against the remaining defendant America Online, Inc.
Donations to the continuing lawsuit (which has received donations from SFWA, many authors and fans) can now be made to: Trust of Kulik, Gottesman & Mouton KICK Internet Piracy Post Office Box 55935 Sherman Oaks, CA 91413
Does anyone else think it's passing strange that a lawsuit by a private individual should ask for charitable donations? I gotta believe sending the same amount of money to a real charity like Compassion International (http://www.compassion.com/) instead of Harlan Ellison's lawyers might do the world more good...
I agree with you. Maybe if it had been broken down by distro I would have been able to take it somewhat seriously.If his reply had been posted on /. it would have been marked as flamebait.
The simple truth is that interstellar distances will not fit into the human imagination
- Douglas Adams
Ellison has reached a settlement with Critical Path Inc. who will create software that enables Ellison to immediately delete postings of his work on the RemarQ service.
I could barely give a crap about Harlan having ubercancel powers over Supernews's servers, except as it leads to this:
There's a reason that usenet servers almost never respect cancels, and that's frivolous cancelling. It's destroyed froups in the past. Now once Supernews engineers their servers to allow Harlan to cancel any posting he has a personal problem with, there's no reason why others can't also have this power. Universal Music Group will ask for the same thing, followed by all the RIAA. And so on and so forth.
If Critical Path gives it them (and why wouldn't they?), Supernews will turn into a wasteland with as close to 0% binary completion as makes no odds. Harlan has gutted his chosen usenet service.
Next stop for me, Giganews. At least until Harlan gets to them.
To my knowledge, my school doesn't have any policies about source code. I've asked two different professors about it and they're not sure. So since I have to write programs for homework, I've started to include the BSD license on everything I write, just to be safe. Maybe it wouldn't hold up in court, but it seems like a safe thing to do in case it comes up (who knows, someone may want the tetris game I wrote for OpenGL class).
Male (over 90% WHOA!)
Educated
Going to Mars
and online way too much
The 30 Secrets of Atari mentions one of the game designers, Warren Robinett, secretly signing a game, because the company policy was to have "no author credit for game designers." The statement finishes, "The popularity of Robinett's "easter egg" prompted Atari to release future games with similar surprises deliberately inserted."
Is this the first recorded easter egg in software? Or were there prior ones?
That's what Paul Thurrott said in his response to our response to his linux security post.
He then magnifies the situation by saying
as his concluding statement.
I'm not even going to say anything. This guy has set himself better than anyone could possibly try to do for him...
I'd say one hell of a reason to say that linux is more secure, by a longshot, is the control you have over it. A hole exists in IIS, for example, allowing anyone to look at all files on your system. Crackers found the hole and decide to play with it. They might play with it for months, possibly stealing a heap of documents from you. Then someone else discovers it and publicizes it. How much more time before you get a fix from M$? They might first say it's not a hole. Then they'll admit it at some point. Then they'll get to the patch. This is either time where you take the risk of leaving your server open, or accept downtime.
On Linux: first, there's people looking at the code of Apache out of Apache: it's so much easier to find holes by looking at the code than from the outside (which might be reason #1 that holes make it to things like bugtrak more often!), so you have a good chance that more people will find the hole, which makes your chances higher that someone nice will be among the bunch, which means it's publicized more quickly.
Then you can very, very easily down- or side-grade to a version that doesn't have the hole, and in any case, chances are a new version will be out within hours!!!
So chance of being cracked are very much lower. And i call that higher security.
Another thing to consider is the fact that you should look at the holes discovered in, say only a specific set of versions of Debian 2.2 for example. Then the # goes down significantly. Looking at all linux bugs vs windows bugs would be like having people running ALL builds of ALL windows versions around the world: wouldn't they find HEAPS and TONS of bugs and holes then?
If you want to be serious, look at Windows 2k vs Debian 2.2 (again, for example, you pick one), and look at bugs that would actually have had any time period in which it could have been exploited before a fix was available. They weren't serious about this.
Hello, world! I am Johnny Two Times Sideburns Chinstrap Billy! Glad to make your acquantence.
God forbid they impose copywrites to what copywrites were originally intended for... you know... protect your intellectual property so that someone couldn't say that they did it... or so that someone couldn't make money off of what you did without your permission...
No no no no no. That would be too idealistic in this world. In this world, copywrites only exist to make record/movie/tv/(insert media here) companies richer than they need to be. Or so they'd have us believe.
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It's just GNU, with Linux being only mentioned in passing. Is there no limit to this man's megalomania?
I explained this in an earlier comment. Summary: The GNU userland can run on many kernels, not just Linux.
Will I retire or break 10K?
but [GPLing everything I write for homework] seems like a safe thing to do in case it comes up (who knows, someone may want the tetris game I wrote for OpenGL class).
If you're writing Tetris® games, you're either working for the Tetris Company or violating a trademark. "Tetris" is to tetramino game as "Xerox" is to photocopier. Would you say "I built a Xerox® machine for a senior project"?
Besides, who wants OpenGL tetraminoes when you can get Tetanus On Drugs, i.e. tetraminoes with a 2 1/2-D spinning, zooming, and distorting display, without the hefty video hardware requirements? Heck, TOD is playable even on a 486/25 with cheap onboard Tseng video.
Will I retire or break 10K?
...brings me to an obvious conclusion. a computer system is not made secure by the default settings of the operating system. A computer system is made secure through unending toil on the part of the system administrator.
Rather than counting the number of vulnerabilities that were reported-- a number easily skewed by the size and knowledgeability of the user base-- the only sure measure would be percentage of deployed systems compromised, a number that most companies would not readily admit.
The linux community has more eyes looking at security issues, more hands to post bug reports and more minds to fix them. Source is available for all to peruse, and bug reports come in often and highly detailed. This makes the job of the dilligent sysadmin a good deal easier by any standard.
This comment is fully compliant with RFC 527.
Bullshit. You can work for a university and write free code. We do it here and have no problems. Of course, I release everything under the BSD license. No. I won't tell you what I work on as the university doesn't endorse it.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
Its funny how sci fi authors are the ones to fight back the hardest when a new technology comes along that disrupts their lives. Not that I don't think Ellison should get paid for his work, but you'd think someone as imaginative as him would find a way to adapt to the new medium instead of cutting it off completely.
If you do, you'll find that his protest reads more like a crazy flame than a well-thought out objection. All capital letters, and not much thoughtful analysis.
Alright, I can understand why he is mad that he is likely to get less money from people who aren't going to go out and buy his books now. On the other hand, anyone who cares about their money has been going to this little thing called "the library" for a while now.
Now, granted, times have changed. We have this new ability to send books to each other over the internet. But seriously, the only books I bought before were reference books, and I'll continue to buy those because it's just more convenient to have them around all the time then to go out and borrow them.
I do believe this is a very chicken-little type argument. Those who buy the books do so because they like to own them and show off their collection of books. That will continue to be the case, library, internet, or not.
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Cutting through your sarcasm to drive the point home to the less clued:
Copyrights were originally created so that the author (not the publisher, the original author) would have exclusive rights to his or her works for a limited period. This allows them to make some profit from their works so that they can continue to produce new works, and in general is intended to enrich the PUBLIC DOMAIN.
Since then, copyright has been subverted into a body of laws that protect publishers and their business models for practically unlimited periods. It protects them both from the authors (who must sign over their rights to get published) and from individuals that try to access the works. Hence the DMCA, which introduces the concept of an access control to a copyrighted work, and which criminalizes unauthorized access to (as opposed to unauthorized copying of) the work.
I guess copyright should be split into two concepts, copyright -- which ONLY governs copying for purpose of distribution -- and accessright -- which ONLY governs viewing and transient copies made in the process of using the work. Then maybe we have a chance of understanding why the current laws stink, and can actually fix them.
--JoeProgram Intellivision!
you got it.
The 28-earth-day day is going to make it bloody difficult to grow food on the Moon. Space transportation makes it rather expensive to import all your foodstuffs, particularly if they have to be launched from Earth (rather than, well, Mars).
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
I've read Jobs is hard on his employees, but I've seen that some of the best and most successful leaders sometimes are.
Then I read this:
Now, over the years, partially due to misrepresentations of myself in the media, I've learned to take public reports with a grain of salt. Anyone have any confirmation or details on the above statement?
My opinion of Wozniak (which couldn't be higher), wouldn't be harmed; but my business admiration for Jobs would be seriously affected if this were true. I don't mind business people being harsh, as long as they're fair, and this most certainly wouldn't have been, if it were true.
(On the other hand, I've seen people with big egos justify in their own mind that they were due the majority of the benefit, while "worker bees" did all the work. So it might just be a case of that...)
-me
Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
Are these the same people who came up with the HyperDrive in the mid/late 1980s?
(For those who never heard of it, HyperDrive was a 10 megabyte hard drive which mounted inside the Macintosh "beige toaster" case. It barely worked and left my old Mac in continuous need of repairs. Finally, my dealer offered a $100 Mac-Plus upgrade and SCSI hard-drive so their service guy wouldn't have to keep coming out.)
Well, no, I wouldn't say that I built a Xerox® machine...I'd say that I built a xerox machine. Xerox has become one of those ubiquitous words in our lexicon. A Canon copy machine sits around the corner from my office. When I go to make a copy, I generally don't say that I'm going to go make a xerographic copy...I say that I'm going to go make a xerox. And so do most of the people I know.
-h-
I like the idea, but only if four years down the road everybody realizes that the latter of the two laws is pointless and serves nobody except for lobbyists and the law gets wiped out of existence. Because, quite frankly, this debate has been going on for a helluva long time, ever since the Error 23 debates on C64s. Should a publisher still maintain distributive control once they've sold the product? I mean, if I pay $80 for my latest Expansion kit for Diablo II, I should bloody well be allowed to do whatever I want with it and not face any type of litigation . I'm not saying that I will in this day & age, because, well, software pirating is so common that it's a moot point these days, but the corporations are still looking for ways to stop people from doing it (Copy-protected CDs, .nap audio file compression, and the list goes on). Software companies it seems learned a long time ago to give up on cracking down on software pirating, but it seems that peripheral companies that are now being affected by the technological boom, and thus the subculture of free-access-to-anything that has spawned out of the internet, and so now _they_ get to do the same. The only problem is, because, unlike software companies in the 80's, they already have a firm stranglehold on the corporate universe, so they make a lot more noise when their company becomes obsolete.
Personally, I'd rather just see this be the end of Record Companies altogether. The courts seem to be attempting to crutch them, when in reality, they don't realize that what's happening is that they no longer have a purpose, and as such we have no reason to keep giving them money. The industry as an industry is dying. Maybe now Music can become art again.
Alright. This article seems dead now, though, so I'll stop ranting.
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I wouldn't say that I built a Xerox® machine...I'd say that I built a xerox machine
That's close enough for dilution, as US trademark law uppercases everything before comparing anything.
When I go to make a copy, I generally don't say that I'm going to go make a xerographic copy...I say that I'm going to go make a xerox.
In Indiana, I've heard "go make a copy" or sometimes more specifically "go make a photocopy."
Will I retire or break 10K?
This guy is totally, irrevocably insane.
.bat file can wipe your harddrive you don't have any security.
When a
Windows is targetted more often becuase it is easy -- end of story.
Here's a phrase Windows should look into -- Permission denied
This
Nobody cares about your work.
You're mostly known as a grumpy old man who once wrote a decent episdoe of star trek.
What a legacy.
P.S. You're a lousy writer.
You merely _think_ you have problems now.
Telepathy comes much later, mostly due to the bandwidth issues.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
Looking at different values and monitoring with wlanexpert I see that on my WAP11s, near the factory setting the adjustment is very sensitive (i.e. small change in CR31 = large change in signal strength). The 20-30 values around it (maybe something like B0-C8 on the AP I have been testing) account for about 7-8dBm of difference.
CR31 settings outside this range have much less effect on signal strength - perhaps 1-2dBm.
I would be interested to know how clean the output is when the amplifier is set to the lowest amount (i.e. highest CR31 value) for the maximum signal strength measured.
I assume that above this value there will be a lot of distortion. (I'm not an RF engineer and would appreciate comments from anyone who is, but I assume it is similar to audio amplification - if so, imagine you have an amplifier and the inputs are turned up much louder than can be handled - the output doesn't get louder, it just gets more and more distorted. I assume that the situation here is similar.)
The question I would like to have answered is, at this value, is there still a serious amount of power into the sidebands? (Answering this requires access to a spectrum analyser - so this is just a question not a suggestion! Still, setting like this is at least not likely to cause worse problems than setting at 80, and isn't going to reduce the range).
Values below 80 react quite strangely, I didn't test very much since I found many values reducing power below the card's sensitivity (so I had to run up and down several flights of stairs to reset CR31 from the wired lan, which was very good exercise!). So...
I hope that everybody noted their default settings before modifying CR31 ;-) My two boxes (bought at the same time) came set to ...
c7-c7-c7-c7-c5-c3-c1-c1-bf-bf-bf-bf-bf-be
c7-c7-c7-c7-c7-c5-c3-c3-c1-c1-c1-c1-c1-c1
So this definitely seems to be done per-unit and not per-batch. (And, these are different to figures I've seen quoted in mailing list posts).
Presumably they are factory-tuned for the best trade-off between good range and a clean signal, without putting too much power into the sidebands, and probably with a safety margin so that this remains true while the unit ages and if it's operated in different temperatures (electronic components are not at exactly the rated value, they are usually within a certain tolerance, the software setting is to account for this - in other designs this might be done using, for example, variable resistors). And obviously the factory settings will be tuned to ensure that the unit is within FCC limits (for example, ensuring that transmissions stay within the ISM band so you're not broadcasting into licensed bands without a license, which you might be if you adjust CR31 without testing with proper equipment or filtering to remove out-of-band transmissions).
"Is this the first recorded easter egg in software? Or were there prior ones?"
Looks like the first recorded easter egg was back in 1973. Are there any eggs that pre-date this?
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The real Raunchola isn't cool enough to have any imposters
Hi all -
I've said this before, but in this era of mega-sellers such as Stephen King and J.K. Rowling, Harlan Ellison should be thankful he still has any readers at this point.
TWR
Gee, if Harlan Ellison is such a great writer, how come he writes everything in caps with M$ quote marks? And people want to copy his stuff??
Ade_
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Big Bubbles (no troubles) - what sucks, who sucks and you suck
I recently wrote an article asserting that Windows was more secure than Linux because the stats say it is so. But guess what, it was all just a big joke! I was teasin' ya! But I stand by it. Well, maybe not the bit about Windows being more secure than Linux. Or vice-versa. Or any of my other points, because obviously they were all based on wild or false suppositions (not surprising when I pulled them out of the same place I put my suppositories). Hey, ya rumbled me - congrats! Let's forget about it.
Anyway, here's a few more crazy ideas: you can't state anything categorical about Linux security, and Windows works just fine, and if the world used Linux then my crystal ball says it wouldn't be any better.
OK, I'm still fooling with ya! You rumbled me again, well done. It wasn't my crystal ball I was looking into at all.
But let me just say: think with your head, not your heart. Or your ass. Especially not your ass. Let this be a valuable lesson. And thank me for illustrating it so clearly for you.
Ciao,
Paul
Big Bubbles (no troubles) - what sucks, who sucks and you suck
< anal whining > That's not an oscilloscope trace. It's a spectrum analyzer. < /anal whining >
"The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.
"CODING IS NOT A CRIME" - EFF
Please don't go an sue Gutenberg too!
And go to
http://pub53.ezboard.com/bkickinternetpiracy
And tell Harland & Co why they are wrong.
ttyl
Farrell
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I don't think they will gain anything with argument like this. I think I only have to sue Microsoft, Adobe, Quark, the KOffice team, because they allow me to reproduce copyrighted material with my hands, and put them on the Net... Well, let's sue Tim Berners-Lee as well, and the Arpanet responsibles: yes, let's do a class-action against the US Army for polluting the intellectual property environment
.I have heard some lu-lus in my time but this definitely takes the cake. I think MS is plagued with this kind of stuff. Didn't Bill G. state something along the lines of, "there will never be a need for more than 512k worth of memory"?
Paul Thurott wrote, " But Linux is not used on nearly as many real world systems as Windows."
What I want to know is where does Paul get his numbers? What does "real world systems" mean? Is he brash enough to call this box in my home a real world system or is he referring to the server I am connected to?
Patche says, "You will attract more flies with honey than vinegar... but who wants flies?
The Spectrum analyzer traces I get from my WAP 11 don't show this out of band noise. Maybe you have a bad unit. I'll follow up with Pics later tonight.
And those figures are correct. Woz would find out when another Apple employee was reading a book on the history of Atari on an airplane. He rightfully felt betrayed.
The Apple story is a rather facinating one. I'd recommend Michael Malone's book, Infinite Loop.
In this book he also reveals the true story of the origin of the Mac, and Jobs' trip to Xerox PARC. And it's not even close to the common myth about Apple discovering the GUI there. (The Lisa and Mac projects were already underway by the time Jobs went to PARC. This, and the writings of Apple employee Jef Raskin. who envisioned the concept of a GUI while in college, are why Apple won the lawsuit against them from Xerox.)
J.H.C. Creating *any* type of software which allows individuals to share information opens you up to legal liability for what *other* people do with it?
They can't possibly win this point against AOL.
[Windows] boots up every day and just works
;)
Well no wonder Windows is more secure. They're turning off the servers when they go home at night!
She came sliding down the alleyway like butter dripping off of a hot biscuit.
Jeez, 17 bytes of ROM and 13 of RAM. Imagine how many more features he could have added. :)
This is a prime example of what happens when you overdrive an amplifier. Amplifiers are great things, you stick in 1V you get 10V out, however there is a limit. Typically this upper limit is the power supply rail (or very close to it). If you power the amplifier with 15V, no matter what you do, there is no way to get more than 15V out of it. So if it is a 10x gain amplifier, stick in 1.3V get 13V out, 1.4V in get 14V out, 1.5V in 15V out, 1.6V in 15V out...
However nature hates corners (really hates corners), so as you get closer and closer to the limit, the amplifer begins to saturate early. so while 1.2V might give you 12V out, 1.3V might only give you 12.8V out, and 1.4V might only give you 13.5V. This region that doesn't give you a constant gain independant of input levels is called the saturation or compression region. Any RF engineer will tell you to avoid this region like the black plague (there are a few exceptions but not many).
What happens in this region of the amplifier is that the peaks of the output are squished down. So your signal doesn't have as high an amplitude as you would expect. What happens in the frequency side of things (as those pretty pictures show) is that your signal begins to spread out. This spreading looks like a staircase (as shown VERY well in the pictures) and is called intermodulation.
Judging by the number of staircases, this amplifier was driven HARD into saturation. Bottom line is the amplifier that is in the current LinkSys hubs was probably carefully chosen to provide a nice linear amplification for the default signal. Any higher and you start to goto into saturation, and distort the output. You can't get something for nothing. If you want a stronger signal, you either replace the amplifier on the inside (not a trivial task) or get an external amplifier (don't know off hand what sort of FCC rules you would run into).
Just thought I would add my $0.02(CAD)
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Spectral Output of tweaked WAP11's"
Critical Path Inc. who will create software that enables Ellison to immediately delete postings of his work on the RemarQ service.
Joe Garelli, News Radio: "You can't take something off the Internet! It's like taking pee
out of a swimming pool."
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Well, if you figure you had 10000 people from Slashdot go and take that survey wouldn't it be a little one-sided of an opinion?
Number 1 answer for the first question was to learn everything we can about space...
Who do you imagine would be online taking a survey about space and put that on the bottom of their list?
The survey was not done in an unbiased manner and the enourmous influence that Slashdot had on it didn't help much. Just saying you might not want to trust the results as an accurate reflection of a larger group of people's will.