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Junkyard Wars: The Next Generation

A reader writes: "The makers of Junkyard Wars are starting up a new series called Ultimate Machine Combat. 30 teams and 30 days each to build "ultimate fighting vehicle" to battle in a "secret arena". This is attracting gear heads of all genres, including my local Jeep Club."

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  1. Death? by Kallahar · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Each week, three teams enter the arena but only one team lives to fight another day."

    Wow, that is ultimate.

    1. Re:Death? by wo1verin3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      If this IS to the death, I'd like to see contestants from Tempation Island and Survivor apply.

    2. Re:Death? by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

      This just BEGS for a celebrity version, if it is truly to the death.

      I vote Carrot Top on his own team.

    3. Re:Death? by swordboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      If this IS to the death, I'd like to see contestants from Tempation Island and Survivor apply.

      Temptation Bots? Survivor Wars?

      You have to admit - this is the best of Battle Bots *and* JYW...

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    4. Re:Death? by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Say what you want about Carrot Top, but he must have a HELL of an agent. How does this guy get work??

      I think you answered your own question. He *does* have a HELL of an agent.

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  2. One problem... by SGDarkKnight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm all for junkyeard wars and all, but i don't think they should let people spend more on the machine that what they are allocated. This just means that someone will probably go and get some rich sponsor to give them a wack load of money, then hire some nasa engineers to design and build the machine.

    On the other hand, I can't wait to see the competition, should be really intresting.

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  3. cool..but by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will they get the idiots from Comedy Central to do "insightful" interviews like on Battle bots?

    Interviewer: "So, what possessed you to build this thing?"

    Interviewee: "Carmen Electra. I am a geek, and there's no chance of me getting close to her otherwise."

    Speaking of Carmen Electra...ahhh..nevermind, I'm finished ;)

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    1. Re:cool..but by Cutriss · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just as long as they don't get that asshole from "Robotica" to do it.

      Robotica is *okay* on its own merits, but if he hosted Battlebots or Junkyard Wars, that'd totally ruin the show by itself.

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    2. Re:cool..but by Pastor+Fluff · · Score: 3, Funny

      Seeing as Kryten has a Junk 'em show (Scrapheap Challenge) and Lister has a Bot show (Robot Wars UK)...

      I've got it!!! Cat!!!!

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    3. Re:cool..but by daeley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, Carmen is cool to look at, but she doesn't hold a candle to the beautiful, brainy, and British Cathy Rogers.

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    4. Re:cool..but by UberOogie · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Carmen Electra has ruined BattleBots.

      Sure, she looks nice in a generic and souless kind of way, but at least the other BattleBot bimbos they had in previous seasons could fake enthusiasm in a somewhat believable way. Electra just stands there, stock still, with the microphone in the spokesmodel position, and then whores herself out monotone. You can tell she is just doing it for the money and hates being there.

      And now, the show has become Carmen Electra & Battlebots. She is in every segment. They talk about her, get her to do interviews, or cut to her in the stands so she can say one line, and then cut back to the booth so they can make some sexual innuendo about her one line.

      Sad.

      Okay, I'm done now.

      Yeah, we're OT at this point, but I'm capped. Go crazy.

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    5. Re:cool..but by daeley · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ahmet Zappa is an acquired taste, to be sure, but he has toned down since last season. We grew to love the antics after a while. (One particular, ah, 'manuever' of his became a family meme: saying 'Robotica-style' and making convoluted hand motions.) He's the son of Frank Zappa, by the way, which might explain a bit ;-) and brother to Moon Unit and Dweezil.

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  4. Dangerous? by Geeyzus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am assuming, since this is coming from the Junkyard Wars standpoint and not necessarily Battlebots, are these vehicles manned?

    And if so, there have to be some pretty strict regulations. Is this going to be a demolition derby or a large-scale battlebots war with pneumatic spikes and huge sawblades ripping cars apart? Obviously any humans in the ring would be in serious danger. So I have to imagine these things are unmanned.

    This is probably then 1 of 3 possibilities:
    • Manned cars, but the safety regulations will turn this into a glorified demolition derby... *yawn*
    • Unmanned cars, so a huge-scale battlebots thing.... pretty cool, and very expensive... cool to watch I'm sure. But I doubt this is the format.
    • Unmanned, small remote control cars.... so, Battlebots. But why would they re-do Battlebots???
    My thoughts are, that this will be a really cool, dangerous show, or a boring Battlebots ripoff... hard to tell from the website.

    Mark
    1. Re:Dangerous? by EricWright · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, the FAQ says the vehicle must accomodate a roll cage. Pretty useless unless someone is going to be *in* the thing.

      Eric

    2. Re:Dangerous? by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Interesting
      • I am assuming, since this is coming from the Junkyard Wars standpoint and not necessarily Battlebots, are these vehicles manned? [...] Unmanned cars, so a huge-scale battlebots thing.... pretty cool, and very expensive... cool to watch I'm sure. But I doubt this is the format.

      Doubt ye not. There was a Scrapheap Challenge (the original UK title) battle of the champions event in the UK using exactly this format. Two salvage cars, radio controlled with salvaged motors turning the wheels and pushing the pedals, and just ramming the bejeesus out of each other in an old quarry.

      It was splendidly entertaining, with a few flaws that could easily be ironed out (i.e. don't put a high scoring scoring target area on the top of the car then count any old trailing bit of chain that hits it). Both teams tried to put clever weapons on their vehicles, but ended up just smashing lumps out of each other, which is what we really want to see, right?

      You're right about the safety aspect though. One of the cars jammed on full throttle, and they had to drive it in circles, then up the quarry wall until it tipped over. A bit scary for the production crew, but top fun for the viewers.

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  5. Pro-Wrasslin' for Geeks by Bonker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although I don't watch them very often... once or twice a month... I really like shows like Battlebots, Robotica, and Junkyard wars because they trigger the same emotional response in children as pro-sports, and even faux-sports like Professional Wrestling.

    Rather than be encouraged to spend all their time getting their bodies in peak/steroid-enhanced condition for the sport of their choice and then being completely burned out and unable to pursue any other line of work by the time they're an adult, kids are encouraged to learn mechanics, engineering, coding, and other tech skills that will benifit them later in life in professional or technical careers.

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  6. Junk by Skyshadow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bah, it'd be a lot more cool if they have ten hours to build the machine in the junkyard.

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    1. Re:Junk by gspeare · · Score: 5, Funny

      They did that show already. It was called "The A-Team".

  7. EMP, the ultimate feature by iiii · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd love to see a "fighting vehicle" with EMP capabilities. WHAM, all computer components and electronics, like fuel injection, in the other vehicles are disabled. I win. Well, it would probably be silent, not WHAM. And it wouldn't make for great tv viewing, since it would melt all the equipment recording the scene. Still, that would rock. Wonder if the rules specifically prohibit such genius.

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    1. Re:EMP, the ultimate feature by Skyshadow · · Score: 3, Informative
      That's a pretty tall order.

      The EMP assemblies I've seen take up a lot of space for relatively poor performace -- the entire cargo area of a minibus in exchange for making some monitors flicker. I'm sure this could be miniturized, but I think you'd need something pretty serious to cook a car's electronics.

      If the arena's fairly small, you could use a couple of tanks of halon to give anyone using a gasoline engine a nasty shock -- suffocate the engine. Otherwise, I've seen a device in testing by the police that fires a contact under the chassis of a fleeing vehicle to make contact, hitting 'em with a jolt of juice. Car taser.

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  8. Enough wimpy stuff.. by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 3, Funny
    I want missiles, explosives, and all out warfare! Hopefully as this mechanized destruction genre grows, we'll start seeing some extreme versions with projectiles, high explosives and pleny of gasoline.

    Enough of this panzy safety stuff :).

  9. nothing is foolproof - for fools are ingenious by augros · · Score: 3, Funny

    maybe i'll submit my stone vehicle with no moving parts. it's virtually indestructable!

  10. Two questions ... by Ldir · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Are there any restrictions on weaponry? The FAQ doesn't mention this.

    2. Will an M1 Abrams fit in an 8'x8'x20' container?

    Can't wait, should be a wild show.

    1. Re:Two questions ... by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > 1. Are there any restrictions on weaponry? The FAQ doesn't mention this.

      If the answer here is "No"...

      > 2. Will an M1 Abrams fit in an 8'x8'x20' container?

      ...then the answer here is "Yes - but only after my robot's finished with it" ;-)

  11. Including... by wiredog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sink like a rock. If some damn fool forgets to put the drain plugs back in before the river crossing.

  12. High Power Weaponry by don_carnage · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why is it when anyone mentions robots fighting, they always think of sawblades and pneumatic spikes? I want to see .50 caliber machine guns, napalm and mines. I mean come on a metal ball on a spike spinning at 3000rpm? How about a 1/2" slug of steel traveling at 1500fps?

    Yar!

  13. Local jeep club by Chundra · · Score: 4, Funny

    It seems like if you stick the average soccer mom behind the wheel of a jeep grand cherokee, give her some eye makeup, a cell phone, and a few boxes of mcnuggets she would destroy the competition.

  14. For the sake of Patriotism by fobbman · · Score: 4, Funny

    For the sake of Patriotism I say that Colin Powell should enter. The rules did state that they will allow you to spend MORE than the money that they give you, and nothing would be greater than to see the looks on the MIT entrants faces when the Area 51 entry enters the arena.

  15. Re:Deadline past by pmcneill · · Score: 4, Informative

    That address and deadline is for Junkyard Wars (which has been running on both sides of the pond for years). The new program, Ultimate Machine Combat, has a Fed 15 application deadline and is a brand new show.

  16. For those who didn't bother to read the page by RebornData · · Score: 4, Informative

    For better or for worse, this doesn't sound like a battlebots-style "destroy the competition" demolition derby. Rather, it's a massive obstacle course (details to be disclosed), although the vehicle is supposed to be able to survive small collisions. The idea is not to build a massively destructive machine, but rather one that is as versatile as possible with respect to handling terrain, towing things, etc...

  17. New Show by narcosis · · Score: 4, Funny

    The makers of Junkyard Wars are starting up a new series called Clock Speed Wars. 2 dorks each build an "ultimate computing device" to battle in a "secret porn downloading race". This is attracting fellow pocket-protector devotees of all genres, including my local Taped Glasses Club

  18. Survival Research Laboratories by vtweb · · Score: 5, Informative

    These people at http://www.srl.org/ have
    been building massive destructive machines
    since 1978, staging large outdoor events
    generally involving shows akin to "let's shake them in a jar, and see if they'll fight".
    Flames, jet engines, crushers, all the things this new program would want.

  19. ARRGGH!! NOOOO!!! Not ANOTHER one! by bani · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The LAST thing we need on TV is another faux-WWF show. Gah!!!

    Come on, we already have Battlebots, Robotica, etc...

    Do we REALLY need ANOTHER?

    We need more CONSTRUCTIVE shows like Junkyard Wars / Scrapheap Challenge.

    We don't need another idiot 'bang contestants machines against each other till the audience falls asleep from utter boredom'.

    I can see it now. A scantily clad cathy rogers draping herself over the contestants machines while robert llewelyn growls and grunts like an idiot white trash WWF announcer.

  20. Re:Well I hope they get one thing straight: by edremy · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you honestly think that a silicone-inflated Carmen Electra-like bubblehead is sexier than Cathy Rogers, I feel sorry for you.

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  21. Robots fighting Robots - no more crap by CKW · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I'm sick of seeing two small wedges on wheels roll around like they were being driven by drunk mice, with matches only lasting 60 seconds, usually ended by some kind of mysterious mechanical failure. I'm sick of seeing "house robots" and "obstacle courses".

    I want to see two robots fight one another, nothing else.

    I want to see a plain empty gravel pit, with no crowds. I want to see two robots go in, and only one come out. I want to see four class systems. Weight classes, cost classes, power classes, and armaments classes.

    Power Classes:
    - Batteries
    - Unlimited

    Armaments Classes:
    - Mechanical weapons only
    - liquid/flamable-fuel/sub-cm-projectile based weapons allowed*
    - Unlimited class, large caliber projectiles, explosives and shaped charges, and EMP weapons allowed.

    The weight and costs classes will have to be set depending on just how many people are willing to compete in them, and considering that now most people have to face the real possibility of having their bot totalled in-game.

    May the best team win.

    And this time, the losers really do go to the scrapheap!

    (*) go-go-gadget sand-blaster! :)

  22. A Reply by virg_mattes · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dude (dudette), the definition of "working" is really relative. I've spent plenty of time in junkyards in my youth, and I can tell you that many of the vehicles that go there aren't completely shot at all. In fact, many cars (that weren't stripped down for parts) that ended up there "worked" as well as any of the vehicles they find on JYW. They just have irrepairable body/frame damage (no worry when you're building a street sweeper but big problems for highway safety), expensive-to-fix mechanical problems (bodging up a transmission is easy if you don't need it to run more than 20 miles, and one of my co-workers got rid of his old car (perfectly workable) because of a big hole in the gas tank that cost too much to fix) or other problems (flood damage or major rust). So, in answer to your question, the last time I found a "complete working car" (by the standards of JYW) was the last time I was in a junkyard.

    Virg

  23. How long by cgleba · · Score: 3, Funny

    unitl the machines on these shows get so destructive that DARPA starts to fund them? :).