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Separating the iMac

Emous Pratt writes: "There is a neat article up on iMacLinux.net which talks you through separating the monitor and computer parts of the iMac. It is very detailed, with lots of cool screenshots including this one of the completed machine, and this one showing the machine is still working. This is useful if you want to run Linux and not run the monitor, or if your monitor is broken." Update: 02/03 19:37 GMT by T : Note for the curious: this is about the old iMac (CRT equipped), not the new lampish G4 variety.

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  1. Wall mount by grafikhugh · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now it would be great to have a tutorial on how to make the iMac Arm wall mountable.

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  2. Screenshot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You really have no idea what that word means, do you?

    1. Re:Screenshot? by ashitaka · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's left if you miss the tissue.

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  3. Revision A/B. by Mr_Icon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It should be noted, that the article is about older iMacs, not ones with pivoting LCD screens.

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    1. Re:Revision A/B. by reemul · · Score: 3, Funny

      Damn, I was hoping to see pics of an LCDectomy. Actually, what I'd really like to see is a mod of the new lamp-like iMacs with the arm being robotic and software controlled. Have the monitor follow you as you move around the room...

      -reemul

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  4. What's that smell? by ekrout · · Score: 4, Funny

    The site is very detailed, with lots of cool screenshots including this one of the completed machine, and this one showing the machine is still working.

    But do they have pics of their server up in smoke after a mid-Sunday Slashdotting?

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  5. PC Cases by 0123456789 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given how successful the original iMac was, and that this one is probably going to be, how come the vast majority of PC cases are just plain dull? Beyond a different colour, or a small curve somewhere, they are all essentially identical. There's got to be a market for mass-produced decent looking PC cases.

    Shame you can't order an iMac with wintel innards....

    1. Re:PC Cases by ekrout · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's got to be a market for mass-produced decent looking PC cases.

      There is

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    2. Re:PC Cases by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The question was:
      Given how successful the original iMac was, and that this one is probably going to be, how come the vast majority of PC cases are just plain dull? Beyond a different colour, or a small curve somewhere, they are all essentially identical. There's got to be a market for mass-produced decent looking PC cases.
      and you link to: http://www.colorcases.com/cases/cases.html ?

      Are you trying to prove the point that the vast majority on PC cases are just boxes tarted up?

      I believe the question is why aren't there more creative designs, ones that involve more then sticking swoopy curved bezels in old iMac colors on the basic PC box? Heck, Apple built their PC chassis with handles on the corners and a fold-out door with the motherboard and other components conveniently on it, not awkwardly mounted inside the frame.

      IBM had a clever desktop pod with CD ROMs in it, Intel has the ever-giddier future design collection, but aside from the spate of iMac-wannabe's the PC chassis selection seems to be pretty moribund, snap-on bezels aside.

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    3. Re:PC Cases by connorbd · · Score: 2

      The PC-building company I work with has some interesting cases. The pretty ones are a bitch to work with, though (except for this pricey aluminum number).

      The main issue is that nobody bothers to come up with truly innovative looks for cases apart from Apple, Sony, and Hewlett-Packard (and HP's current Pavilion boxes aren't quite as nice as the iMacish ones they had a year or two ago at that). Compaq in particular has some of the most hideous in the business; the current Presario design is scraping the . I do like Gateway's and Dell's (server boxes only for Dell, though); they're a bit dull, but they're for the most part fairly clean and elegant designs.

      Hmmmm... just a thought -- has anyone ever done a feng shui analysis on a typical computer case, just to see what comes up? I don't buy into the make-or-break mysticism that its devotees have, but I do thing feng shui is one of the more interesting tools for cleaning up the aesthetics of a space.

      /Brian

    4. Re:PC Cases by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Informative

      you haven't got an El Capitan Powermac, have you? The IDE connector is easily accesible as are the RAM slots, PCI slots and the Airport slot. Putting drives in is the funniest part. 1 screw is all it takes, pop out the little cages, screw the drives into the cage and pop it back in. Takes about 5 minutes to put a new drive in an El Capitan.

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  6. Humm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Humm... appears that the iMac from the story was hosting the page. Doh!

  7. news for nerds? by feldsteins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if knowing how to disconnect the display would be equally handy for someone not running linux.

    But then,what am I saying? Linux guys are all about disconnecting stuff. And besides who in their right mind would want to run Linux on a LCD display like the one on that iMac?

    "Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that matters"? Hey I love slashdot, but let's face it. It's "Slashdot: We like Linux. Not much else."

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    1. Re:news for nerds? by alexhmit01 · · Score: 2

      ekrout writes, "Slashdot: We like [...] LOTR, Star Wars, [...], anime, and pr0n"...

      You forgot DVDs. Slashdot LOVES stuff on DVD.

      Yet you hate region encoding, the MPAA, the RIAA, the mass media, the mass market, etc., etc., etc.

      I avoided buying a DVD player for a while because of the MPAA's behavior. But in the end, it's hard to not feel like you're only hurting yourself when anti-MPAA groups promote certain DVDs...

      Oh well, it's nice to be in a pro-geek swing. I've noticed that Hollywood will have a geek year every 3-4 years where they spend a fortune releasing nerdy movies that never do as well as expected. It is as though they momentarily forget that most people don't read LOTR, they watch Nascar and WWF...

      Alex

    2. Re:news for nerds? by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think your conclusion is a bit too strong. From the original:

      This is useful if you want to run Linux and not run the monitor, or if your monitor is broken.

      I do believe I see the word "or" in there. The post is not all about Linux. There's a specific mention of a way that knowing how to disconnect the display could be useful for non-Linux users. Presumably the reason for mentioning Linux first is that the post was submitted by a Linux user. There seem to be a lot of those around here.

      As for your general complaint, yes, there do seem to be more Linux-related stories on SlashDot than stories which focus (at least in a positive manner) on any other OS. (We'll ignore all the other topics like DVDs and Anime and so on). *BSD fans also complain about this sometimes :) What it boils down to is this: either more Linux-related stories get submitted, or more get selected. If the former, then the Linux bias could be due to more input coming from the Linux users. Or perhaps there are just more Linux users on SlashDot than any other group. Either way, it's hard to complain when the majority is getting majority representation. You want to see stories on other OSes? Submit them!

      If the latter, then you might have something to complain about. You know who to complain to :)

  8. New iMac disassembled! by aurorascope · · Score: 2, Informative

    Was that the fastest slashdotting or what? Anyway, I came accross the PDF file for the new iMac, it's very detailed and it explains how to dismantle it without breaking anything...

    Here's the url.

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    1. Re:New iMac disassembled! by jarodss · · Score: 2

      Quote Geocities:
      "Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable!
      The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer."

      Now that wasn't really nice was it?

  9. Text of the article.. by epsalon · · Score: 5, Informative

    iMac Revision A/B rehousing guide

    This guide provides information on how to rehouse your Revision A or B iMac into some other type of casing. This guide SHOULD also work for Revision C and D iMacs. This guide comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRENTY and we DO NOT RECOMMEND that you follow it unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing, or (like me) you had NO OTHER CHOICE. :)

    Tools
    You'll need a non-magnetic philips screwdriver, snips or pylers, and a sheet (or something to protect the screen while you have the iMac face down on the table).

    Background
    Revision A and B iMacs came out in 1998/99, making them about 2 or 3 years old at this time. Many of the revision A iMacs were plagued with monitor problems. I originally had a Rev.A iMac, however after 2 weeks, the monitor started to turn green, and the local retailer exchanged it for a Rev.B iMac, since the store no longer had Rev.A iMacs. This evening, I noticed my Rev.B iMac was powered down and cold, when I attempted to power it back up, nothing happened. I tried plugging in a different power cord which had no effect. So I moved the iMac out of the rack, and placed it on the workbench and tried to power it up again, this time I held the power button, and the iMac chimed and started to power up, then there was a big flash, some smoke and the iMac was dead. Luckily I happened to be looking at the iMac when the flash occured, and it looked like it came from the HT transformer on the iMac. This was somewhat good news, as it meant the monitor part of the iMac was probably fried.

    Solution
    Since I wasn't about to shell out to have the iMac repaired, I figured the next best thing was to try to fix it myself. Since this iMac is used as a server, the monitor really wasn't needed anyway. So I decided that the best thing to do would be to remove the logic board, drives and power supply, and see if I could get the unit to power up by itself. This meant of course, taking the entire thing apart.

    Pass the screwdriver..
    Taking the iMac apart wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. First, you need to remove the screws that keep the system board in place underneath the iMac, the system board has a handle you can pull it out by, remember to unplug all the connectors from the system board first. Once removed, place this to one side, you will need it later.

    There are several pairs of screws along the back of the case, you need to remove these, the hardest one to remove is the one near the door (one that is used to route the cables). Once you have removed all of these, the rear plastic casing comes out. This is the piece that has the speaker covers attached to it. Once it is off, you will see two screws in the front of the iMac (either side of the hole where the CDrom drive goes), you need to remove these, and the front facia (piece of plastic with the iMac part written on it) comes off. The next bit is a little tricky, you are left with this generic grey plastic cover on the front of the iMac, at the very top of the monitor where the grey plastic meets the coloured plastic, there are two capped screws. You will need to remove the caps, then remove the screws. Once you have completed this, the coloured plastic can be removed, exposing the tube.WARNING: BE CAREFUL WHEN HANDLING THE TUBE AND SHIELDING, EVEN WHEN OFF, THE TUBE ELECTRONICS CAN HAVE A NASTY RESIDUAL CHARGE IN ITS CAPACITORS!!!USE EXTREME CAUTION TO AVOID ELECTRIC SHOCK!!

    The next thing you will need to do is remove the shielding that protects the monitor. There are about 8 or 10 screws you will need to remove. You can see a picture of the removed shielding here . Now you should be able to see the electron-gun, and two logic boards on either side of the monitor. Make sure you do not put pressure on the electron gun itself, it is very easy to break it, and since it is made of glass, you could injure yourself or have a nice mess to clean up if you break it. If you are facing the screen, the board of the left is for the monitor, and the board on the right is the power supply. We want to remove the power supply board so we can use it to power the system board we removed earlier. If you click here you can see a picture of the monitor section with the power supply board removed. It takes 3 screws to remove the power supply, two on the side and one on the top. There are two connectors you need to unplug in order to remove the power supply board. The first is a 2 pin brown connector that leads to the monitor board, the other is a block connector with lots of strands of grey thin wire that also go to the monitor board. You need to be very careful with the connector block as it can easily be damaged. You should be able to remove the power supply board now.

    Now we have the system board and power supply board, but there is a catch. We need the logic board that is screwed into the front of the iMac's casing so we can switch on the power supply. You can see a picture of the removed board here . The board is pretty small, and you need to remove the entire front casing before you can get it out. This means you must remove the 4 shielded screws around the tube (monitor) as well as the 4 additional screws on either side of the monitor. Once you do this the screen and remaining boards are pretty loose, so be careful not to scratch your screen. The board has two connectors, we are just interested in the long one, the short connector seems to pull power from the monitor board to drive the led. If you really want the LED, you could probably pull power from somewhere to drive it.

    We are almost done, we still need the connector to connect the power button to the system board. You will need to snip the tie-wraps that are pinning the wiring that goes to the microphone along the side of the monitor, there are two tie-wraps, and you will need to remove the tape from the wiring for the right speaker. You will also need to disconnect the microphone, and speakers if you have not already done so. The speakers come out pretty easily with a single screw, as does the Infrared box. You should now be able to pull the cable out. The cable should have the connectors to link the system board to the powerbutton, as well as 2 speaker connectors and the microphone connector.

    Thats it, now all we need to do is reconnect the parts we want to use. You'll need to connect the power supply board to the system board, the power button board to the system board, plug in your keyboard, ethernet and plug the power into the power supply board. The power supply board was grounded off the metal shielding we removed, so you may want to find a means of grounding the power supply board. Then power it up, and see if you can telnet/ssh into your Linux system (assuming you had Linux running on it before). If something goes wrong, you will need to either type blind, or get a monitor. The iMac Rev.A and B units have an Apple RGB (db15) connector. You should be able to pickup a RGBVGA adapter or pickup an Apple RGB monitor. You might be able to pickup an Apple RGB monitor from PowerMax or eBay.

    Picture Gallery

    * Empty iMac Shell Casing
    * Casing with front facia removed
    * iMac Tube
    * Electron Gun w/PSU removed
    * iMac IR unit, and screws
    * iMac power button board
    * iMac speakers removed
    * Power Supply Unit
    * Working iMac
    * iMac connectors
    * iMac Case Parts
    * iMac is on-line

    Next...
    Now that we have successfully brought the iMac back to life, we can't leave it hanging around on the desk. We will bring you the next installment, as soon as we find something to put the iMac in. For now, it has been rehoused in the plastic shell casing without the tube from the monitor. We need to address cooling issues, especially with the fan being in the monitor half of the casing.
    Author: John Buswell
    Version: 1.00
    Last Update: 2002-02-03 02:19:15

  10. Racking iMacs by victim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once you have released the computer from its fruity prison, you can then give it a proper rectangular computer case with the iRack
    1U rack mount box. Sadly, it only handles rev A through D, so you will get topped out at 333MHz, still for many network applications thats way too much CPU anyway.

    I'm still hoping Apple will make G3/G4 computers in a form factor similar to briq. Something I can cram in 3 or 4 to the U. As long as I'm dreaming, no video hardware, just Quartz over ethernet and a discovery protocol that lets me connect by MAC address from my management station.

  11. I just looked at the time on the article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...which says 12:17.
    I then looked at my computer's clock, which said "12:11".
    holy shit, I thought, slashdotted six minutes before even being posted to slashdot.

    Not that anyone cares. <AC.>

  12. Something similar has been done by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 3, Informative

    in this article. Appropriately titled "Rack an iMac".

  13. Mirror by doctomoe · · Score: 4, Informative
    Well, looks like the TuxPPC servers can't cope with the traffic, so here's a mirror.

    http://w3.one.net/~johnb/imaclinux/

  14. Grumph... by zulux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wish Apple would have an option to sell the IMac 2 without the 15" LCD monitor - it would be sorta a rounded Mac Cube. You could hook up Apple 22" cinema display (a bargan for a 22" LCD display) and have an almost silent XWindows terminal that looks preyy cool on your desk.

    The 22" Apple display has got to be some sort of loss leader for Apple - most competetors charge about $4000 for the same spec monitor.

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    1. Re:Grumph... by WiseWeasel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, no, you can get an adapter to connect an ADC monitor (which includes DVI, power and USB in a single connector) to a DVI-compatible video card, plus a USB connector and power source.

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    2. Re:Grumph... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2

      got one, have you? I have, and it's the best LCD I've used. Better than the Samsung 24" WS, and the 17" SGI too.

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  15. Re:iMac. by JonathanF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's this kind of condescension that lets Windows dominate the market unnecessarily. Do you assume that Apple's computers are for stupid people from genuine experience with the OS, or are you just generalising because it's labeled as easier to use compared to Windows or Linux (and hence doesn't seem "manly" to you)?

    If you want, OSX has a Unix-based command terminal on top of the GUI. Apache is built-in for a web server (provided you aren't going to violate your ISP's terms of service with it). You can customize the Dock's size, position (including auto-hiding it), and whether it magnifies icons when you move your mouse over them. There's plenty of network configuration options if you need them.

    If you're worried about hardware upgrades, get a PowerMac G4 - they have a bay expressly designed to make upgrading easy. iMacs aren't for "stupid people," they're for people who don't feel they need to upgrade except for when they get a new computer altogether. Not everyone 'needs' a new video card or hard drive every 6-12 months, or even at all. If I'm just using AppleWorks or Word, why bother?

    But I'm likely making assumptions of my own, and I apologize. I'll ask you then: what, exactly, about Macs do you think makes them limited to "stupid people?" Maybe you should visit Apple's OSX site and find out. Just having lots of visual flash and a one-button mouse doesn't put your hardware or OS on a lower plane of existence.

  16. Re:I don't see what all the fuss is about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about using a sledgehammer to whack a Linux user (complete with dark shades, long greasy hair, prodigious gut, suspenders and living in his parent's basement at forty).

    Should take a little longer as most of the blow is absorbed by the hyperinflated ego.

    Let the flames begin!

  17. Re:I don't see what all the fuss is about... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2

    a Prince Albert.

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  18. For your information, ass... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    ...this is one of the older, CRT iMacs, not a new LCD imac. Linux users can't afford the newer stuff.

    Next time, though, read the fucking thing before commenting. (Heh, that'll be the day, on slashdot.)

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  19. 2U Dual G4 Rackmount by InfinityEdge · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lets see here...

    I can go to Grand Vitesse Systems' online store [gvstore.com] and buy a 2U, dual 1Ghz mac with a gig of ram and all the other apple goodness (gigE, superdrive et al) for around $3500.

    For compairson, we next go to dell [dell.com] and price out a similar 2U server using wintel, namely the PowerEdge 2550. Put in dual 1.4Ghz Intel pent III (G4's will eat this for breakfast), 1GB of ram, Red Hat 7.2 pre-installed, and basic everything else what do we get? $4,871!!! Granted this comes with an 18GB SCSI 10K drive vs. the mac's 80GB and 40GB ATA hard drives, but I think you can get a SCSI controller and a 18GB HD for less than $1300.

    Face it, since OS X macs have been better than anything that runs on Intel for any application.

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  20. Look at these screenshots of my new boat by asb · · Score: 2, Funny

    It seems necessary to inform those who have not seen the real world for a few years that "photograph" and "screenshot" actually are not synonyms.

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