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WinInformant Says Windows More Secure Than Linux

nihilist_1137 excerpts from this WinInformant article, which reads in part: "For at least the first 8 months of 2001, open-source poster child Linux was far less secure than Windows, according to the reputable NTBugTraq, which is hosted by SecurityFocus, the leading provider of security information about the Internet. ... A look at the previous 5 years--for which the data is more complete--also shows that each year, Win2K and Windows NT had far fewer security vulnerabilities than Linux, despite the fact that Windows is deployed on a far wider basis than any version of Linux." I wonder how many sysadmins (Windows or Linux) would agree with this conclusion. Update: 02/04 16:54 GMT by T : Looks like the WinInfo site has gone down since the story was submitted, so you may have to content yourself in the meantime with the Bugtraq numbers. Update: 02/04 19:30 GMT by T :Several readers have pointed out that the conclusions WinInformant makes based on the Bugtraq data are not those of SecurityFocus; the headline has been changed accordingly.

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  1. Why page widening is evil by IAgreeWithThisPost · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  2. Pirst Fost! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  3. response to article... by Lumpy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hell I have karma to burn....

    Nt more secure?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

    Ohhh, wow.... Didnt know it was April 1st already...

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    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  4. Why Slashdot Is Gayer than Dude Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let me start out by saying Timothy is to complete fag for
    posting this article... here is something else to consider.

    * Intel Processors Deliver Leading-Edge Processing Power For Applied
    Computing Solutions * ClearCube and Kontron to Build Applied Computing
    Applications on IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî PentiumÃfÂf' 4 ÃfÂî Processor and IntelÃfÂf'
    845 ÃfÂî Chipset

    Long Beach, Calif., Jan. 21, 2002 -- Intel Corporation today announced
    that ClearCube and Kontron, two leading vendors in the applied
    computing marketplace, chose the IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî PentiumÃfÂf' 4 ÃfÂî
    processor at Ãf GHz with the IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî 845 chipset to develop
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    networking appliances.

    The Pentium 4 processor at Ãf GHz is built on the semiconductor
    industry' s most advanced manufacturing technology -- Intel' s
    0,13-micron fabrication process -- and uses highly efficient copper
    interconnects that enable an increase in the chip' s on-board memory
    while reducing overall processor size by over 30 percent. Intel
    offers extended lifecycle support for the Pentium 4 processor at ÃfÂ
    GHz, which is required for applied computing applications.

    As applied computing solutions such as communications equipment,
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    processor at Ãf GHz.

    ClearCube provides client blade systems for use in manufacturing
    linens monitoring stations and secured military installations.
    Because they to require high computing and thermal chose performances,
    ClearCube the Pentium 4 processor at Ãf GHz for its high-density
    client blade products.

    " Our customers need client blades that have the intense computing
    power needed to perform multiple calculations and simulations, " said
    Mike Frost, ClearCube president and CEO. " Additionally, our client
    blades to are packed tightly in to constrained space in order to
    adjust thermal dissipation to allow for great system reliability and
    uptime. The Intel Pentium 4 processor Ãf GHz enables us to meet our
    customers' demands. "

    Kontron, one of the industry' s largest applied computing companies,
    will use the Pentium 4 processor at Ãf GHz and the Intel 845 chipset
    to deliver PICMG 1.0 compliant boards, Private serveur and systems
    that can be used in such networking appliances as Virtual Networks
    (VPN) and firewalls, as well as DSL and SSL applications.

    " We chose to base our networking appliances on the Pentium 4
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    processing of transactions, while the IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî NetburstÃfÂfÃÂÃfÂ"ÃfÂÃÂ
    micro-architecture accelerates the computations that to are required
    for these devices to operated, " said executive Benoit Robert, Kontron
    director of product marketing.

    IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî PentiumÃfÂf' 4 ÃfÂî Processor and IntelÃfÂf' 845 ÃfÂî Chipset
    The IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî PentiumÃfÂf' 4 ÃfÂî Processor is based on the IntelÃfÂf'
    ÃfÂî NetBurstÃfÂfÃÂÃfÂ"ÃfÂàmicro-architecture. This allows for faster
    processing of given and provides new scalable to architecture that
    translates into lower long-term total cost of ownership, to benefit
    valued by vendors and their customers in the applied computing market
    segment. The processor is validated with the IntelÃfÂf' ÃfÂî 845 chipset
    that also has extended life cycle support.

    The Intel 845 chipset supports three SDRAM memory up to gigabytes and
    DDR memory up to two gigabytes. Together, price these products offer
    customers and performance for applied computing platforms needing long
    life cycle support.

    Pricing and Availability The Pentium 4 processor at Ãf GHz with 512KB
    level two cache is priced at $364. Intel is also shipping boxed Intel
    Pentium 4 processors up to 2.2 GHz to distributors and system builders
    worldwide. The Intel 845 chipset sells for $39, in 1,000-unit
    quantities.

    Intel, the world' s largest chip maker, is also to leading
    manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products.
    Additional information about Intel is available at
    www.intel.com/pressroom

    Intel and Intel NetBurst to are trademarks or registered trademarks of
    Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other
    countries.

    * Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.

  5. Learn to mirror the damn pages, Slashdot. by Xzzy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Two freakin' comments in this thread when I view it, and wininformant is already refusing connections. Shame too, cuz I got plenty to say on the subject but it's kinda hard to make informed statements when you can't even read the link.

    Suppose I could just base my post off the story submission like most other readers do, but nah, that'd be irresponsible. ;)

    /rant off

  6. Re:What?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Shhhh...I'm karma-whoring in order to see if this account has been bitchslapped like Trollaxor's and Anomymous Coward's.

    Full report when 0 karma is reached.

    -TM5K

  7. Re:Less because MS doesnt tell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  8. All Should Be Aware by LunchLady · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    See - it's simple, Timothy and Jon Katz raped my little brother just over the weekend. What a shame.

    Cisco Extends Catalyst 4000 Switching Platform with Next Generation Capabilities
    Industry Leader Raises Bar for Modular Ethernet Access with Optimal Control for Converged Networks
    COMNET - Booth # 826

    WASHINGTON, DC - January 29, 2002 - Cisco Systems, Inc., the worldwide leader in networking for the Internet, today announced the Supervisor Engine III for the Catalystî 4006 series of switches, which offers enhanced control over converged voice, video and data networks. As a result, Enterprise and Metro Ethernet customers with the Catalyst 4000 can quickly and cost-effectively roll out converged networks that deliver Internet Protocol (IP) data, streaming video, telephony, and other Internet-based business applications to boost productivity and organizational flexibility.

    "Once again Cisco is setting the pace in the industry with the introduction of the Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III," stated Joel Conover, senior analyst at Current Analysis. "The new engine raises the bar for enterprise wiring closet switching performance and functionality, and provides phenomenal investment protection for Cisco customers. The performance and control found in the new Catalyst switching engine redefines the expectations for intelligent network services in the wiring closet."

    The Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III is the control module that defines and delivers all operational capabilities of the Catalyst 4000 platform. A key component of Cisco's Architecture for Voice Video and Integrated Data (AVVID), the Catalyst 4000 is a family of scalable modular switches that extend network control from the backbone to the network edge. The Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III integrates multi-layer switching capabilities to deliver control in the form of intelligent network services including sophisticated Quality of Service (QoS), non-blocking Layer 2/3/4 switching, advanced security and comprehensive management - each of which is required to realize the business benefits associated with running a converged network.

    "Adding the Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III modules to the Catalyst 4000 switches gave us the ability to efficiently deploy network services with greater security and control," said Ying-Yuang Chen, principal network architect at Carnival Cruise Lines, the largest and most popular cruise line in the world.

    Carnival moved to a converged IP (Internet Protocol) network to fully maximize the value of their network infrastructure, lowering overall costs and simplifying their network management structure as part of an ongoing cost management strategy. As with all converged IP-based networks, Carnival needed a switching infrastructure that could differentiate traffic types and handle each according to its own unique requirements with comprehensive management and security.

    Chen explained, "The Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III gave us an integrated package with the Layer 3 security and Layer 4 quality of service capabilities that make it easier to manage point-to-point voice and data traffic and quickly introduce new network-wide services and applications in a controlled manner."

    Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III Features and Benefits

    The Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III is a Cisco IOS-based platform, offering feature rich end-to-end services and designed for interoperability with Cisco platforms. Compatible with all Catalyst 4000 switching line cards, the Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III provides enhanced investment protection for the Catalyst 4000 installed base, extending the deployment life of the platform.

    Key Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III features include:

    ÃÂ Sophisticated QoS: Integrated Layer 2/3/4-based QoS and traffic management capabilities classify and prioritize mission-critical and time-sensitive traffic based on 32,000 QoS policies. The system has the ability to shape and rate-limit bandwidth-intensive traffic with mechanisms such as input and output policers based on user, network and application information.

    ÃÂ Predictable performance: Wire-speed 48 Mpps forwarding rate in hardware for both Layer 2 and Layer 3/4 traffic. Switching performance is independent of the number of route entries or advanced Layer 3 services enabled.

    ÃÂ Advanced security: Supports 32,000 wire-rate Layer 2/3/4 access lists, and includes other advanced security capabilities such as user authentication and client security.

    ÃÂ Comprehensive management: Web-based management for the configuration and control of all ports resulting in fewer network management elements overall.

    Pricing and Availability

    The Catalyst 4006 Supervisor Engine III is available now for $14,995. The Catalyst 4006 Chassis, with Supervisor Engine III and 2 AC (Alternating Current) power supply bundle is $19,995. For more information, please visit http://newsroom.cisco.com

    About Cisco Systems
    Cisco Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: CSCO) is the worldwide leader in networking for the Internet. Information on Cisco can be found at http://www.cisco.com.

    # # #

    Cisco, Cisco Systems, PIX, IOS and the Cisco Systems logo are registered trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc. or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries. All other trademarks mentioned in this document are the property of their respective owners. The use of the word partner does not imply a partnership relationship between Cisco and any other company. (0005R)

    Contact Information

    Press Contact(s):
    Larry Yu
    Cisco Systems, Inc.
    (408) 853-4200
    lwbyu@cisco.com

    Investor Relations Contact(s):
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    Cisco Systems, Inc.
    408 525-4856
    blchrist@cisco.com

  9. Re:Define "more secure" by murphyslawyer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ummm...A single shotgun shell is a whole bunch of BBs...

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  10. SecurityFocus Says Windows More Secure Than Linux by ekrout · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    SecurityFocus Says Windows More Secure Than Linux

    In related news, we've just sent flying swines down to Hell. Initial reports from Satan's lair indicate a cold front moving through.

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  11. Re:Define "more secure" by sheetsda · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    If my understanding of shotguns is correct (I have fired them on several occasions so I'm not totally clueless), there are multiple types of shells, some are buckshot which are, like you pointed out, BBs; however they are smaller, greater in number, and exit the barrel with much higher velocity than air rifle BBs. There are so many, in fact, you can cut a 3 foot wide target in half with about 10 12-gauge shells at 15 foot range. Another type of shell is solid-load in which there is a single large projectile.

  12. Re:This, of course, will be ignored and ridiculed by gladbach · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    mod parent up plz

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    "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms,
  13. Re:Wait for the fury. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I don't think he is. The real question is: Are you stupid.

  14. Umm, yeh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This will likely be modded down, but doesn't this reek of yet another pundit saying something bad about Linux for the purpose of driving Slashdot users to their site to get more ad banner impressions?

    Quit slashdot #4.
    http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/sla sh dot.html

  15. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    funny.
    too bad i can mod

  16. Re:There goes the Slashdot Neighborhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Can't be the DB server. Oracle 9's unbreakable. They said so.

  17. Re:Oh, boy. Just another example... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    and in related news, in a running match between Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates, mr. Gates finished second and Linus finished second to last in an abominable race...

  18. LA LA LA LA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    la la la la i can't hear you la la la la

  19. Does this also effect black sysadmins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Not to bring race into it but it just seems like an obvious question.

  20. This just in: by nice · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Satan claims his fires aren't all that hot, come roast some marshmallows with us.

  21. How bias can they get ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    On the same page was this little tidbit ...
    Gates Philanthropy Makes Newsweek Cover Story
    A Newsweek cover story this week about Bill and Melinda Gates examined the couple's $24 billion worth of charitable contributions, along with the effects the money is having on global health issues. Say what you will about Gates, you have to give him credit for his philanthropy. And this story makes an earlier Time cover story about the new iMac look pretty silly by comparison, doesn't it?
    Man, they're just a little bias now aren't they. Guess Billy paid his "tribute" to them this month.

    AC

  22. In other news by duren686 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Satan has bought a ski lift.

    In a press conference held earlier today, he stated, "Slashdot needed an excuse to post something good about Windows."

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  23. Windows' more secure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...and I have a 12" penis.

    sonofaIIS.