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Bob Young says Linux won't rule the desktop

Wee writes "I just came across this interesting Yahoo interview with Bob Young in which he says that Linux won't rule the desktop but will instead focus on replacing legacy Unix systems and enhancing Linux's embedded presence. He makes some pretty good points. The oddest quote: "So our opportunity is not to replace Microsoft on the PC. If you've got a perfectly good working PC, why you would go through the angst of replacing it?". Not sure where to start answering that one. My wife (a dedicated Win32 user) liked his car analogy. I need to get her to read 'In the Beginning was the Command Line'..."

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  1. Why replace it? simple... by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Complacency leads to regression. If we aren't always striving to make things better, everything will deteriorate. With a strong Linux desktop push, the price of competing software (Windows and MacOS) will drop, features will increase, and everyone will be better off.

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  2. Makes sense by .sig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Contrary to popular belief (at least here), Linux is just not ready for the everyday person's desktop. While it's true that it is getting there, why not focus on it's strengths, and let Linux grow as an OS where it fits in and is accepted?

    Windows works. It may not be perfect, but it gets the job done, especially when the job is pure entertainment. That's why I have a computer at home, and I bet that's why a large majority of home computers are bought. I also have a linux partition on there, but I haven't booted into linux in over a year. I simply have no need for it, and everything I use my computer for can be done without problems under windows.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Hostile17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Contrary to popular belief (at least here), Linux is just not ready for the everyday person's desktop.

      I disagree, Windows has only one advantage over Linux and that is games. This may be a problem on the home desktop, but on the business desktop, it is not relevant. In every other area Linux has an free or nearly free alternative. Email, web browsing and content creation all have usable and in some cases outstanding programs. Even Exchange Server can be replaced, to include shared calenders (easy to implement with Apache/PHP) and address books (LDAP). I have helped a few small businesses convert to a Linux Based desktop for all employees, some do complain for a little while, but then they get back to doing whatever it is they get paid to do, especially when the CEO pointed out, it was either convert to Linux or face other budget cuts and possibly layoffs. I have yet to see anyone not be able to figure out how to use StarOffice. Frankly, someone who can't figure out StarOffice is probably not someone you want working for you anyway. With the sole exception of games, Linux is ready for the desktop. As a side note, I am just the opposite of you, I have a Windows partition on my system, but I haven't booted into it since I did the install, about 8 month ago. I am thinking about killing it and using the space for something useful.

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  3. Why does it have to be 'answered'? by SlashChick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, Bob is absolutely right. I will say this again and again and again, but no one seems to be listening:

    The desktop wars are over. Move on to the next thing.

    So Microsoft has won the "desktop" wars. So what? Do you really think that in 5-10 years, people are still going to be using bulky beige boxes to connect to the Internet? No, they are going to be using everything from home entertainment consoles to cell phones to PDAs.

    Some of you may remember the days when a "personal" computer was a joke. "Computers" were those giant hulking things that took up an entire room and required their own cooling system. As Bob says, "Microsoft did not convince people to unplug VMS from their Digital VAX systems in 1979. They took advantage of a major shift in technology toward the PC, and they became the de facto standard on the new technology model, being the PC."

    The shift in technology now is smaller, faster, wireless, and pervasive. The idea of 'turning on' a computer to 'use the Internet' will become old-fashioned more quickly than you can imagine. By the time a majority of people think that Linux will be ready to rule the PC world, PCs will be the passe way to connect to the Internet. Microsoft is already expanding in this field with the XBox and the tablet PC (which, IMHO, is a natural evolution of the computer.) Anything that is wireless is huge right now.

    This whole desktop war is silly. Linux is its best when people don't even know or care what OS their products are running. Look at TiVo. Do I care that it runs Linux? Nope, because it works flawlessly and doesn't require me to know arcane command line tools. TiVo rocks not because it's Linux, but because it does its job and does it well. That's the problem I have with Linux zealots -- they want Linux regardless of whether Linux fits the job or not.

    Why is it necessary to force people to relearn something? Instead of parroting Microsoft, let's be innovative. Let's put Linux into the greatest, coolest new devices (TiVo, PDAs, cellphones.) Let's look at where the market will be in 5 years instead of being hyper-focused on beating Microsoft today. Otherwise, Microsoft and the rest of the world will move on, and Linux will be left behind.

    (More about this in my journal.)

  4. Lies... by bflong · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate it when journalists do this crap.

    Bob Young says:
    So our opportunity is not to replace Microsoft on the PC.

    ZDNet reporter Matthew Broersma says:
    Red Hat chairman Bob Young says Windows will continue to rule the desktop!

    What a crock! That is NOT what Bob Young said. He said that they have an opportunity to expand their business in new directions. Directions that will be of more benifit to RedHat and their customers then "the desktop".

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  5. Bob Young continues to impress by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bob Young continues to demonstrate a good grasp of the market, and the position linux can best dominate in it. Red Hat has been distinguished by better management (from what we can see) than the other linux companies so far, and Young's ability to move to the market instead of the hype is setting Red Hat apart.

  6. Why is this so complicated? by MythoBeast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time to throw a little karma to the wind.

    I don't understand why everyone complicates this so much. If you want to capture the desktop market, then you have to cater to what the desktop market wants. That can be summed up in three words: Easy To Use. Here are a few examples of things that aren't easy to use:

    - So many configuration options that you don't know where to start, and need a year's education to finish
    - A selection of desktop environments, each with a corp of zealots telling you that theirs is better
    - A broad base of information that you have to (a) go out and find on the internet, and (b)search through to find your answers.
    - Installations with prerequisites that you have to figure out how to find and install yourself
    - User account management
    - Video, sound, and network card installations that require you to know the model of your card.

    If you're attempting to create an operating system with a broad selection of options, you should remember to include the option to not have to mess with these little details.

    Unfortunately, this requires the programmers to figure a few things out for the user, and most of us just don't want to do that. Somehow we're always surprised to find out that the user doesn't want to do our work for us.

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