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Google's Search Appliance

An anonymous reader noted that Google is working on a Search Engine that you can install behind your corporate firewall for indexing your internal documents. It's a bit thin on information, but it looks like for as little (cough) as $20k, you can have your own google box. Not for everyone obviously ;)

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  1. Oh now come on by yobbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    People don't have THAT much pr0n do they?! :)

  2. Possibly very good... by larien · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Certainly I'd see value as a user of a huge corporate internet. Several times I've wanted to find information on some of our internal pages which, of course, I can't use google.com for because of the firewall. While there is an internal search engine, it's results can be less than stellar and I've missed Google.

    Aside from anything else, it gives Google a revenue stream so they can continue to provide their services (web, image and usenet searches) for free; they need to find a valid business model, and hopefully this can contribute.

    1. Re:Possibly very good... by leviramsey · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Google's "sponsored links" seem like a valid business model to me. Search on something generic like computers [google.com] and you'll see pastel links pop up with advertisements. I imagine people pay a nice chunk of change for those.

      Google runs on two business models: the Sponsored Links model (and the Google Sponsored Links are much more effective than any other online advertising out there) and the sale of search services (to Yahoo!, Washington Post, et al).

      Fact is, Google's already profitable. Why? Because they didn't make the moronic mistakes that the other dot-coms did. Have you seen a Google Super Bowl ad? Have you seen a Google ad anywhere? Exactly. The Google model is, quite simply, you run a lean and mean ship that gets the job done well, and you make money.

    2. Re:Possibly very good... by jedrek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well... we had a 6% click-thru rate on our test run of 10.000 which cost us a whoping $110. I don't think that's too bad.

  3. Google enters this market at the right time by hawaiianshirt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everywhere you look, companies are hawking products geared for searching internal documents. Google is making a good move; enter an expanding market as an established leader in searching.

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  4. hmm. by raindog151 · · Score: 5, Funny

    will it also index employee email?

    Searched the intranet for 'herbal viagra'.
    Results 1-10 of about 1,279,500. Search took 0.14 seconds.

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  5. Splendid! by johnburton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see more of this in the future - if you want a search engine, buy one and put it on the network. If you want a web server, buy one and put it on the network. You want a disk server... Well you get the point.

    As hardware continues to get cheaper and software more expensive as it gets more complex it makes sense to do this rather than trying to configure multiple applications all on the same server.

    And good luck to google making money on this so they can keep their search engine fast and free of annoying advertisments.

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  6. Why Google Can Be So Expensive... by BTWR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google did exactly what us fanboys all whined and complained for - a company that made a good product (awesome search engine) without selling out (no popup ads). Google offered a free service, built up an enoumous following, and now offers its premium service for a premium price, while insuring its loyal customers continued free services. Forget eBay, Google is an Internet-Success-Story worthy of such praise!

    1. Re:Why Google Can Be So Expensive... by PoiBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, I've seen interviews in some business magazines with their CEO. In fact, they are slightly profitable and have been for a few years.

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  7. $20K Isn't really that much if you consider it. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The companies that are useing the apliance are Large Corporation with Hundreds perhaps Thousands of computers and Millions of files and documents to find. The real question is how much money is the company loosing from people who have to redo misplaced documents. or make new ones which are simular to an other document that someone else made a while back. In a large corportation a Thousand of people working at $20 an hour are taking 1 hour to redo a document or spend time finding it. It makes up for the caust. Also if it gives google more money the better change the search eng. Stays free and without a ton of anoying avertising.

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  8. article from C|Net here: by mESSDan · · Score: 4, Informative
    From C|Net.

    It's a little more indepth than the India times article.

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  9. We're using it here...it rocks! by HRH+King+Lerxst · · Score: 4, Informative

    They just implemented this were I work, it's a vast improvement over what we had before. It even includes the cache and newsgroup features!!

    Two thumbs up!!

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  10. Hey, maybe slashdot can get this... by powerlinekid · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least then the search feature would work right and they can finally cache all those sites that we take down.

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  11. The GPL (and Go Google!) by base3 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Google's product selling for $20,000, and being based on Linux, is a good counterweight to the FUD being spread by Microsoft et al that cries "If we write a product that so much as uses one GPL library, we have to GPL it. Waaaaa."

    Unless Google reimplemented their own operating system, or <shudder> ported it to Win2K, they have a very expensive product, that runs on Linux, that is not GPL.

    More power to Google--I'm glad to see them finding a way to make money without trashing their search engine, like happened with the previously good search engines that came before (e.g. Altavista, Lycos).

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  12. Re:Looking for a good internal search engine by richieb · · Score: 5, Informative
    Try htDig. It does all these things and is free software. I used it on a corporate intranet in the past. Not as good as Google, but you can't argue with the price.

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  13. Document management by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This has a LOT more business application that appears on the surface. And $20K for such a solution is comparable to paying $50 for Red Hat to run a server.

    Back in my systems integration days, we had very many law firm clients who used document management to organize the truly prodigious quantity of information they had to deal with. Spending $50K on the solution was not unheard of even among small firms. In fact, they usually wound up spending $20K just on third party maintenance utilities to support their document management systems!

  14. Didn't we know this all along? by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Sorry if this sounds uninformed, but I had always been under the impression that Google's Business Plan was based on the idea of a free public search engine and a commercial private one for companies, which would also offer more and better features.


    Isn't this just confirming what we already knew?


    On top of that, depending on the size of your intranet and how efficient/inefficient indexing already has been, $20K may be a bargain.

    Of course, how many companies are really going to have a use for it? For giggles, lets say the entire Fortune 500. That's 500 * 20K = 10,000 K = 10 Million Dollars US. In the grand scheme of things, that's a lot of money, but not a LOT of money. Perhaps they'll add on pay-per-use functions for even ritzier search features?


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  15. Why does google get a slashdot-patent-pass? by victim · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Just curious about people's opinions here. Google gets covered fairly regularly on slashdot. Usually when a company that uses software patents to protect its business from competition comes up on slashdot they get reamed along with the USPTO.

    slashdot talked about this in 1999 when the patent came up. Its 2+ years later now. google has mostly crushed the competing search engines because the results of their algorithm are preferred to other algorithms. Their revenue sources are not public, but I believe I read recently that half of their revenue is from advertisements and half from technology licensing.

    So, the point for discussion...

    The world's favorite search engine exists because of its software patent. This patent has caused great harm to the competing search engines. Is this ok because...
    • the software patent system is just fine
    • many software patents are silly, but this one is worthwhile.
    • it is a silly patent, but google is good enough that we forget about that.
    • no one cares how google got where they are. It is just good that they work well.
    • it is not ok.
    1. Re:Why does google get a slashdot-patent-pass? by ethereal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with the "many are silly, but this one is worthwhile". Google's approach was non-obvious, innovative, and really advanced the state of the art. It wasn't just another "do what we did before, but with a computer this time" patent.

      I'll admit that it helps that their site is non-painful to use, but that's just gravy. Google's search is so much better that even if their site was a pain, it would still be a worthwhile search tool.

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    2. Re:Why does google get a slashdot-patent-pass? by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Because they don't do evil or annoying things. That isn't a tremendous excuse, but it just works in practice. No intrusive ads, performance is always great for a free service, etc.

      Tremendous excuse? I'd say its a future model for all businesses.

      Forget the tedious absolutism of the neosocialists -- that model will never be implemented anywhere (except at the barrel of a gun), and anyone who won't be happy until they get there will never be satisified. However, a company that does a good job at what they do and produces something that they can either give away or appear to give away something without doing the annoying, evil greedy things that other companies do should be the benchmark.

      For example, Mercedes Benz -- what if they still sold their really expensive cars to rich guys who would pay for them BUT they would also sell a car that went 200,000 miles without major service for $10k?

      I think the list goes on -- subsidize basic, honest products and services with expensive stuff that others are willing and able to pay for. It makes you a saint. I don't see why so many other businesses hold onto the "rape everyone" philosophy.