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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.1.3

nbvb submitted what I'm pleased to say is our first apple.slashdot.org story. We'll be posting more news for our sizable Apple population there in the future. Anyway, He says "Apple today released Mac OS X 10.1.3. Be sure to click your "Software Update" and "Install" buttons! (Hey, if we can get an announcement every time a new point rev of a development kernel hits the FTP sites, can't we hear about Mac OS X?)" As usual, user reports of the new release have been both positive and negative.

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  1. Nice theme. by PD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can we have this theme on the other pages?

  2. DVD player by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new DVD player can show movies on the external monitor attached to my PowerBook G4. That was the only remaining regression OS X had versus OS 9 on my machine. I'm a happy sometimes-OSX user now :)

  3. New Apple Icons? by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Warning, Slashdot Conspiracy Theory:
    I think someone just wanted to use the new apple icons...

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  4. Why? by 2starr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, I'm a Mac user and do the rounds off all the Mac info and rumors sites each day as well as thoroughly reading evey article on /. having to do with Apple, so don't get me wrong. But, I guess I'm wondering why Apple stuff is being broken out? What's the reasoning? Will we have a windows.slashdot.org soon? Isn't this just going to make it possible to hide possibly interesting articles from people on the main page that don't visit apple.slashdot?

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  5. Didn't work here by ksheka · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hit the update button in the tools menu, and it didn't mention anything about 10.1.3.

    All it gave me was some "Welcome to Windows Update" page. :-(

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    1. Re:Didn't work here by dclove · · Score: 5, Funny
      All it gave me was some "Welcome to Windows Update" page. ;-(

      I used to get that too. It's a hardware problem...

      ;-)

  6. Re:apple.slashdot.org? by PD · · Score: 4, Funny

    Out of the loop? Hardly. You were one of the first 10 people to post in the brand new section about Apple on Slashdot. Apparently, you are in the middle of the loop.

  7. Re:Oooh....pretty theme! by jamie · · Score: 5, Informative
    "That said, i'm not sure why apple.slashdot.org exists. Unless bsd.slash...

    http://bsd.slashdot.org

  8. Never Gonna Happen by Cheshire+Cat · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As has been rehashed numerous times in the past, Apple will never release a version of OSX for the Intel platform. Basically, Apple makes almost all of its money from hardware sales. Obviously if they sold OSX for x86 systems, thats a sizeable chunk of cash that they'd lose.


    You may remember when Apple permitted clones that Apple almost went under. This was because the clones were causing Apple's finances to hemorage like a hemophilliac.


    I agree it would be nice to have OSX for my PC. I'd dump Windows in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, doing this would also mean the end of Apple, so its nothing but wishful thinking.

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:Never Gonna Happen by foobar104 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basically, Apple makes almost all of its money from hardware sales. Obviously if they sold OSX for x86 systems, thats a sizeable chunk of cash that they'd lose.

      I agree completely, but I just wanted to throw in a slightly different interpretation. Microsoft has become an amazing success based on their sales of the Windows operating systems. I can't think of another company that has been that successfull selling primarily operating systems.

      They did it in two ways: diversification and licensing, licensing, licensing.

      If Microsoft sold only Windows XP, they couldn't be as successful as they are. But because they also sell Office, and SQL Server, and all that other crap^H^H^H^H valuable stuff, they can make a bundle.

      Also, Microsoft licenses the heck out of Windows, so for (almost) every computer sold, MS gets a few bucks. To do this, they've had to make some questionable business decisions.

      So, given these two facts, Apple can produce OS X for Intel and be successful if one of two things happens:

      1. Apple diversifies into an applications company and starts selling stuff like "Mac OS X SQL Server" or "Mac OS X Groupware Product" to keep the cash flowing. Probability: almost zero.

      2. Apple gets somebody serious, like Dell, to license OS X for Intel to sell on their PCs. Probability: even less than zero. This actually has negative probability! The very existence of this option makes other things more probable!

      So yeah, pretty much releasing OS X for Intel would be a death sentence, either for Apple as a whole, or at least for Apple as we know it.

  9. Attn: CmdrTaco by EricKrout.com · · Score: 5, Funny


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  10. Apple Poll Possibility by rogerl · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple Macintosh:

    1. Nope
    2. Work
    3. Home
    4. Work and Home
    5. Cowboy Neal eating an apple. Yum.

  11. OSX finder issues by linuxpng · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone know if, by chance, they have fixed the annoying finder issue where folder views are not kept?

    This is an issue with me that's actually addressed in the KB. They state it will be fixed in a future OS revision. Anyone else think that's kind of lame?

    1. Re:OSX finder issues by zephc · · Score: 5, Informative

      most likely its because you dont have write permissions to said folder (directory) and your account cant write the .DS_Store file to said folder. Otherwise I have had no problem with folders keeping their views.

      In Terminal.app, try `chown -R [yourusername]:staff ~/' and to any other folders you frequent (like on other drives, etc).

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  12. Apple Thinks it's 2001 by Schlemphfer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I happened to be in the process of downloading 10.1.3 when I came across this discussion on Slashdot. The installation was effortless, and it's great to have system software that's less than 24 hours old. But when I rebooted and selected "About This Mac," the box came up saying 10.1.3 is installed, "Copyright 1983-2001 Apple Computer."

    Oops! Fortunately, other than that little oversight, 10.1.3 seems amazing so far. Rock solid and gorgeous.

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  13. Put it on last night - some findings by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Informative

    At home, I run fetchmail, UW Imap/pop3, and postfix. (Some excellent instructions for installing it are here at Stepwise), Image Magick, Gimp, and some other Open Source programs on OS X. I also use BBedit and Microsoft Office X. (And I can say that Entourage is a far superior program to the one I have to use with Windows.)

    The good news: Nothing broke. 10.1.3 didn't rewrite any mail settings, so all of my mail continued to come in/get sent out just fine.

    The bad: Still no focus-follows-mouse, multiple desktops, or the ability to connect to my wife's printer on her Windows 98 box.

    I did have a problem with Samba for a little bit (I have another computer running Win98 I use just for games playing). Once I turned off the SMB service and turned it back on, it worked fine.

    Some of these things comes from a former KDE user (ie: focus-follows-mouse, etc), but overall, since it didn't break anything, I'm assuming all went well. As person who used Linux 90% of the time up until last week, OS X is still surprising me by all the little nice things they put in.

  14. Pre-nup? by toupsie · · Score: 4, Funny
    So is the new apple.slashdot.org a pre-nuptial arrangement that Kathleen Fent required of CmdrTaco before marriage?

    I think it is a cool idea since now, because of Apple, BSD has a 3 to 1 lead over Linux on the Desktop. Take that Tux!

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    1. Re:Pre-nup? by toupsie · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What? Dont you know that BSD is dying? I read all about it here on Slashdot.

      Yea, I read that all the time. But then again, Apple has been dying since they released the first Mac back in 1984. Every year, I hear "Apple can no longer survive with a 5% market share". They fail to understand that Apple has $4 billion cash in the bank.

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  15. Re:apple.slashdot.org? by sacherjj · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is the beginning of a trend. Look for these fine subdomains, coming to a slashdot near you:

    mssux.slashdot.org
    katzrevues.slashdot.org
    itr unslinux.slashdot.org
    stuffthatactuallymatters.sl ashdot.org
    antimpaa.slashdot.org
    and
    cowboyneal.slashdot.org

  16. mac ghettos by plastik55 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's because they're tired of Apple user's tireless honest answers to stupid flames:

    CmdrTaco: Oh yeah, the new xMac is out. It can burn DVDs and run BSD software while preparing you a tasteful, healthy meal for you every day and never needs to be taken for a walk, and it actually looks halfway decent, but I won't ever use it because it ships with a one-button mouse.

    Mac-using hordes: BUY A GODDAMN $10 3-BUTTON MOUSE ALREADY!

    Taco: All right, I'm sectioning off a Mac ghetto and sending you there so I don't have to listen anymore.

    BTW, I couldn't post to this article without going through apple.slashdot.org. That's annoying. And a shiny ugly green theme is still an ugly green theme.

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  17. It's started already.... by Fubar · · Score: 5, Funny
    Looks like Kathleen is 're-decorating'.

    :)
    1. Re:It's started already.... by austad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Looks like Kathleen is 're-decorating'.

      Dammit man, you let her get away with potpourri in the bathroom too didn't you?!?!

      It's just a matter of time before slashdot smells all flowery, and has collectible plates and Precious Moments figurines on glass shelves with doilies on the front page.

      Noooooooooooooooooooooo...........

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  18. apple.slashdot.org? by Triv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Question: What does this do to Macslash? I've always looked to them for info first (although the conversations were admittedly dead and moderation points were nonexistant) and they're apparently in a bit of a financial scrape. Personally, I'd rather an active discussion here than dead air there, but I'm still curious. Triv

  19. Re:Why? Well, Why Not? by freality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's probably a very strategic move into the space of mac info/rumors sites, ~because~ those sites have a dedicated following like /., but with a splintered offering of niche info. In other words, Can /. rule the mac weblog space?

    Slashdot was probably asking themselves "Why not use our brand and slashcode to bring a superior geek news site to a community that has demonstrated their desire for this kind of content."

    The problems you bring up are going to be issues /. will have to deal with or risk dissolving its brand.

    P.S. I used to visit macosrumors everyday, then they posted a link to this new site "Slashdot"... 1997?

  20. Re:Sigh by thedbp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Never ceases to amaze me how much people dismiss Apple out-of-hand simply because its not a free OS.

    I love Linux and what it represents, but it is NOT a viable alternative for people who just want a computer to WORK out of the box when they bring it home.

    It is NOT a viable alternative for graphics professionals, video professionals, and although can be suited for use as a desktop OS in a corporate "office" type environment, it lacks the easy-to-install-and-configure aspect that is holding it back from displacing Windows entirely in corporate America (who could save billions every year by switching to Linux if they were smart).

    Apple, to be fair, is more pricey. But as has been noted MANY times, the total cost of ownership over time is dramatically lower. Linux and Apple should co-exist peacefully. If I want a box for internet surfing and mail checking and light office work and didn't want to spend much $, you're damn right I'd build a cheap linux box. But if I want a computer I can use for EVERYTHING, that works as advertised, with minimal effort in maintenance, where everything i do and need and use on a daily basis is provided immediately upon opening the box and plugging it in, I'll take a Mac, thank you.

    Oh, and as a side note, i have never in over 2 years recieved a single bit of spam at my Mac.Com email address. Wanna know why? They don't sell out their customers.

    And don't give me the upgradability thing..... I just took my B&W G3 350 purchased almost 3 years ago and once again made it a screamer with 1GB of RAM, a new G4 500 proc., an 80GB drive, and a new Radeon 7000. Plus a nice FireWire 16x10x40. It can still crush a P4 1GHz easy. yes, I know they're up to 2.2 Ghz, but Apple's got dual 1GHz ... heh.

    check out:
    http://www.apple.com/myths
    http://www.apple .com/easier

  21. Why not a minor versions-topic by Aapje · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I would really like is a topic where all these Linux 2.2.0.2.3.4.1.3 and MacOS X 10.1.3 updates are posted so I can skip them. I like to read about a substantially new version of an OS, but why should we be bothered with these minor bug-fixes. The people who use the respective OS's will learn about the update from their own sources (I learned about this update from 5 sites before Slashdot told me about it) and the others couldn't care less about minor fixes that don't affect them.

    Besides, the most important reason to read slashdot is for the comments and these topics get the worst comments of all. It's mostly trolling (Mac/Linux/BSD rulez/sucks) and uninteresting trivia (did you know that this update fixes DVD on external monitors?). Get me some serious technology news that illicits comments about the problems of EPIC or an ethical story about censorship.

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  22. Multiple desktops by GeorgeH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out Space for multiple desktops. Not quite true multiple desktops but I can't imagine OS X without it.

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  23. Karma Whoring For Apple? by namespan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmmm. I'm wondering if, with the advent of apple.slashdot.org, I'll be able to come here, make pro-apple comments, and more easily get Karma.

    Not that I don't have better things to do with my time... and most Apple fans I know really aren't drooling idiots.... but one has to wonder if segmenting the audience would lead to this kind of change in moderation.... kindof like talk radio shows don't tend to attract people whose views diverge wildly....

    Just a thought...

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  24. Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    apple.slashdot.org has been around for over a year. It is called MacSlash and it is run by actual Mac users.

  25. Our own sandbox? by sg3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, I have to say, I've had no problems with 10.1.3, and it works fine on my PowerBook G4.

    About the apple.slashdot.org site: does this mean that Apple stories won't be cross-posted to the regular slashdot site? If they are still cross posted, then that's cool.

    If not, I see a problem: partitioning Apple-related stories away in a separate site from general science, technology, YRO, and other non-Linux stories seems counterproductive and silly. I mean, there's a reason why MacSlash doesn't get a tenth of the traffic as Slashdot. That is, as a Mac user (and Linux and Windows user), I don't care to visit another site that only covers Mac stuff; that's what Macintouch and MacCentral are for.

    So if this site is going to be like the latter, you should have done a poll to see which topic had to get off the swingset and play by itself.

    The Aqua-fied slash look is pretty cool, though.

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  26. My favorite new feature... by MidKnight · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... is in the Detect Displays button on the Displays System Preferences pane. Previously, to get my laptop to recognize an external display, you'd have to put it to sleep & wake it back up. This wasn't a big deal, since OS X can go to sleep & wake back up in about 4 seconds total. But, it's nice to have a button to detect other monitor(s) on the fly.

    And on a random external-monitor point, it blows people away when you're doing an Powerpoint presentation, then you pull up a pretty translucent terminal for a Unix-y CLI demo, then you start up an X-served app, all from a little Mac laptop. It amazes me that so many *nix folk still don't appreciate the phenomenal job Apple has done w/ OS X.

    --Mid

  27. MacSlash by kriebz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What happened to MacSlash.org
    If thsi si the same thing, why the "new" site?
    If it isn't, why don't you leave this to them?