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Obiwan Kenobi writes "In a gala event last night New Line Cinema revealed their Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring DVD Plans. This includes a 2-disc version on August 6th (in both Pan & Scan and Widescreen, click here for box art), and a special 4-hour, R-rated cut of the film debuting in a 4-disc set on November 12th. While the August release includes some nifty features, it's the four disc version, with the longer cut and three audio commentaries, that really gets the drool flowing." Now that's what I'm talkin about!

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  1. So... by segfault7375 · · Score: 5, Funny


    So, do we hate the MPAA this week?

    1. Re:So... by Nilatir · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Digital Bits has good info on the new scenes:

      A new addition to the opening sequence in which Bilbo provides background on Hobbits and their history in voice-over as he writes his memoirs.

      A new introduction to Samwise Gamgee, seen in his capacity as a gardener.

      A scene taking place at the Green Dragon Inn, which introduces us to the camaraderie of the Hobbits (we see them singing together) and sets up the geopolitics of the story.

      The Hobbits witnessing the departure of the Elves from Middle Earth on the way to Bree.

      Aragorn watching over the sleeping Hobbits, singing the ballad of Beren and Luthien to himself in the night.

      Aragorn at his mother's grave, in which we learn that he was raised by Elves and that Sauron has long hunted him.

      Two new moments during the departure from Rivendale, one in which we see Arwen's emotional reaction to Aragorn's leaving, and another in which Elrond sees the Fellowship off.

      A scene with the Fellowship in the mines of Moria, in which we learn how the Dwarves themselves unleashed the fire-demon that eventually destroyed them.

      A scene at Lothlorien, where Galadriel bestows upon each of the Fellowship a gift which will play an important role later in the Trilogy.

      And finally, more footage of the battle at Amon Hen. This is not particularly bloody footage, but its addition will likely result in this cut of the film receiving an R-rating.

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      -- Hunter S. Tolkien
    2. Re:So... by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

      FYI:

      We like them Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
      We hate them Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
      And we alternate Sundays.

      Get with the program.

    3. Re:So... by dorsey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The way I look at it is that we may have bad feelings about drug dealers, but we sure do like them drugs.

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    4. Re:So... by thesolo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So, do we hate the MPAA this week?

      I know the parent is modded as funny, but it's also a very insightful comment too. Unfortunately, situations like this just show the MPAA that they have us right where they want us.

      Whenever a story is posted about the SSSCA, or Jack/Hilary talking about piracy killing their businesses, we all get up in arms and post hundreds of comments about the RIAA & MPAA being greedy cartels (which they are). But as soon as they release something that we geeks love (Star Trek DVDs, LOTR, etc.), we all jump for joy.

      "Disney sucks, they are buying off Senator Hollings, we need to...ooooh, new edition of Tron on DVD!!"
      "Hilary Rosen is trying to lock down our computers and needs to be sto...ooh, DVD-Audio!!"
      I think you get the idea.

      Unfortunately, I'm salivating over this just as much as everyone else on this thread. I want the LOTR DVDs. I want the Simpsons Box Set DVDs. But do I really want to give money to the MPAA & News Corp when they are trying to squash our rights? Not particularly.

      So, what can we really do about it? Unless we, as a LARGE group all say "Enough, we will boycott ANYTHING you put out, no matter how good it is, until you respect us", nothing will change. The transgressions against us by the MPAA/RIAA will be forgotten as soon as we get our hands on our favorite shiny silver discs.

      This is a perfect chance, people. What a better way to send a message than to boycott LOTR on DVD, or SW Episode 2 in the theater?? (movies that are sure to draw out the geeks who realize exactly what laws they are trying to pass.) I for one will gladly boycott, if it means that we get to keep our rights.

    5. Re:So... by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whenever a story is posted about the SSSCA, or Jack/Hilary talking about piracy killing their businesses, we all get up in arms and post hundreds of comments about the RIAA & MPAA being greedy cartels (which they are). But as soon as they release something that we geeks love (Star Trek DVDs, LOTR, etc.), we all jump for joy.

      Repeat after me: SLASHDOT HAS MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN ITS COMMUNITY.

      Now think about it.

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    6. Re:So... by singularity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree completely. I voiced a similar argument a while back.

      A lot of Slashdot readers like movies. That is why they care so much about digital rights. Someone who does not watch (and enjoy) movies is not going to care if he/she is able to excercise "fair use" with digital movies.

      I dislike the MPAA quite a bit. I have voiced that opinion many times on Slashdot. However, I also greatly enjoy movies. I went and saw FotR twice in the theatre and will buy it on DVD.

      Why? Because I feel like a boycott of movies means that the MPAA has won. They want to take away my rights. A boycott simply means that instead of *them* taking away my rights, I *choose* to ignore my right to go to a movie, hopefully to get someone to notice.

      Unfortunately, I enjoy movies too much to give them up for a political point.

      Call me a hypocrite, that is fine. But notice that I have never said that I am boycotting, and I have never called on others to do the same. I have written to my congressmen and I have encouraged others to do the same.

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    7. Re:So... by BigBong · · Score: 4, Funny

      Rated R comment. Children turn away now...

      You were warned, so the karma is on you, not me.

      The way I look at it is that we may have bad feelings about drug dealers, but we sure do like them drugs.

      Based on my handle you know where I stand on that comment.

      In this case, I'll admit it - I'm an addict. I don't mind getting bent over this time...

      New Line Cinema: (slap) Who's your daddy?
      BigBong: (grimacing while holding my ankles) Lord...of...the...Rings
      New Line Cinema: (slap) You like it don't you little bitch?
      BigBong: yes! yes! yes!
      New Line Cinema: (slap) And if I come out with another box set, what are you gonna say?
      BigBong: Thank you sir, may I have another?
      New Line Cinema: That's a good girl...

      At least all of the extra features and added violence will qualify as a good reach-around on top of a quality fscking.

  2. Re:Four hours. by sporty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, 'cause the books combined are well over a 1000 pages and watching the movie would probably work out better for those who can't handle reading a 1000 page book. :)

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  3. Is it just me? by BLKMGK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Or are movies going from the big screen to DVD faster and faster? I swear that some of the movies seem to hit DVD before they've hardly left the theater!

    In this case the added commentary tracks are going to be great. Nearly every movie I've seen with these has been interesting. Wild Things and the movie with the kid seeing dead people (argh what was the title) had truly insightful commentaries I thought. I'll be interested to see what the commentaries for this one will have.

    Looking forward to it and am glad to see it coming out so quickly. Nowadays heading to the theater just isn't high on my list - too expensive too. DVD I can watch anytime I want, unfortunatly it supports the damned MPAA :-(

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    1. Re:Is it just me? by denzo · · Score: 4, Funny
      Or are movies going from the big screen to DVD faster and faster? I swear that some of the movies seem to hit DVD before they've hardly left the theater!
      An August release for LotR isn't that spectacular. That's roughly 7+ months after theatrical release. The magic number for DVD releases nowadays is 6 months (it used to be unheard of, now it's more and more regular).

      Either way, I'm waiting until the November release. :)

  4. slashdotted by syrinx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Was having trouble getting to the site, so:

    The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring will be released in no less than four versions this year. On 8/6, separate widescreen and pan & scan versions will be released, each a two-disc set with identical extra features. Disc one includes the film presented in English Dolby Digital Surround EX and Dolby 2.0 surround (sorry, no DTS). Disc two is where all the goodies are at, and retail will be $29.95 for either the pan & scan or widescreen editions. The extras to be found on disc 2 include:

    3 in-depth documentaries that reveal the secrets behind the production of this epic adventure, including "Welcome to Middle-earth" in-store special as shown by Houghton Mifflin, "The Quest for the Ring" as debuted on the FBC Network, and "A Passage to Middle-earth" as premiered on the Sci-Fi Channel

    15 featurettes originally created for lordoftherings.net, which explore the locales and cultures of Middle-earth and include interviews with cast members Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Viggo Mortensen, Liv Tyler and others.
    Exclusive 10-minute behind-the-scenes preview of the next The Lord of the Rings theatrical release, "The Two Towers"

    Enya "May It Be" music video

    An inside look at the special extended DVD edition of The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

    Preview of Electronic Arts' video game "The Two Towers"

    Original theatrical trailers and TV spots

    Exclusive online content only available to DVD-ROM users via a special website set to go live on street date
    Then, on 11/12, New Line will release a mega four-disc set, with a new extended cut of the film created by Peter Jackson himself, and featuring over 30 minutes of additional footage. This cut of the film will be Rated R due to some extended violence, and no retail price has yet been set for this release. The now nearly four-hour film will be spread over the first two discs and presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen (alas, no sound format information is yet available.) Unfortunately, all the supplements for the 4-disc set are still in production, so final details were not revealed. However, the disc is planned to include 3 audio commentaries and another four hours of bonus material. It is also not yet known if all the features on the "standard" two-disc set edition will also be included here.

    Last but not least, New Line is also planning on release a special limited edition gift set of the 4-disc set, with two bookend statuettes by sculptor Sideshow Weta, the National Geographic "Beyond The Movie" DVD, and several collectible Decipher game cards. There were also rumors floating around that after all three films are done and released, a fifth mega-box set of all three with possible additional material may be released, which would be sometime in 2004.

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  5. Re:Four hours. by Gehenna_Gehenna · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What are you complaining about man? It's on DVD. Watch it. Pause. eat dinner, go to the bathroom. Stretch. Hit start.4 divided by 2= 2 2hour movies.

    I understand. It's long. If you don't want the 1/2 hour extra footage you can buy the shorter version. Everyone wins.

    I take that last bit back. in the end the people selling me the cd utimately win. Bastards.

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  6. So... by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly how much of the extra footage is "closeup of ring" or "closeup of Frodo in awe".

    Somebody walking out of the movie suggested that a good drinking game would be to take a shot every time there was a closeup of the ring. We decided that any viewer, Boris Yeltsin included, would be dead before a single RingWraith had ever appeared.

  7. Re:Two and Four disc? by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are probably going to minimize the compression ratio for the ultimate in sound and picture quality. Just like the Superbit series.

  8. No DTS? by PhoenxHwk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one disappointed by the sound getting no better than DD 5.1? I'm all about DTS. And widescreen. I'm still trying to convince some of my friends that you GAIN by watching the widescreen. They always complain that the black bars destroy their viewing experience. Ahh well, a home theater nerd I am. :)

  9. dvd tech is showing its age .. by jest3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The theatrical DVD relase should really contain BOTH the pan/scan and widescreen.

    I guess we are starting to see the limitations of current DVD technology (ie not enough space for both versions when its a long movie).

    Back in the day they didn't figure into the equation that interactive features would become so popular / take up so much space. So when the movie is long you run out of room.

    Now would be a good time to release HD-DVD ..

    1. Re:dvd tech is showing its age .. by barawn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is stupid, you know. There's no bloody reason that pan & scan and widescreen shouldn't be THE SAME FILM, using the SAME MPEG-2 stream, on the SAME DVD. After all, it's not like it's a different movie, or anything - this entire mode of "must choose widescreen - must choose pan&scan" is more stupid than I can possible imagine.

      Let me explain: normal TVs are in one format (NTSC), and movies are in a different, but all of the movies are wider than the TV, right? So, Pan & Scan movies aren't cropping, or zooming, or anything: all they're doing is displaying only a "portion" of the screen, and another remaining portion is left offscreen.

      WHY didn't the movie makers come up with a standard to allow a DATA track along side the DVD MPEG stream which cues the DVD player to pan & scan ON ITS OWN? Most people already have "Zoom" features on the DVD player, and then with "left" and "right" buttons you can "pan and scan" manually. All you need is a cue track to move the 'window' left and right. It's a joke - honestly. It would take no effort, everyone would have everything they want, and we'd be happy. And better yet, if there were some scenes where the director said "um, no... I really want to retain the widescreen here" it could simply switch out of pan and scan for a portion of it. Best of both worlds, and all it requires is a really trivial amount of coding (come ON, I could do this in my sleep!).

      Grr. Rant off. Pan and Scan will always be around, simply because different films use different transfer techniques, and while most people say "who cares, I don't mind the black bars" the fact is, it's not the black bars - it's the fact that you're tossing resolution in one direction to gain information (which may be meaningless) in another. I'd rather have the option to see it full screen (that is, pan and scan) rather than having widescreen shoved down my throat.

    2. Re:dvd tech is showing its age .. by Dimensio · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't work that well.

      First, most DVD players don't have a "zoom" feature. Mine doesn't, and I think that it's only really common on Toshiba players.

      There actually is a standard in the DVD spec for panning and scanning a "wide" image based on the DVD player's setting (16:9 vs 4:3 letterbox vs 4:3 p&s). If it's ever used, it's used in menus that can be displayed wide. Unfortunately it's too flaky to work with the movies themselves.

      Another problem is that it would only be useful for 1.77:1 images. A movie that is 2.35:1 (like Blade or Contact or FotR) couldn't be panned and zoomed without still having small black bars at the top and bottom.

      I'm not sure how having 16:9 resolution affects it either -- though if allowing a movie to be p&sed by the player would require dropping the 16:9 resolution then you can forget it; widescreen affectionadios are not going to be happy sacrificing image quality to appease the peons who like watching butchered films.

      And finally a number of movies aren't filmed directly in the aspect ratio they are shown; they're filmed "full-frame" or at least with more of the image at the top and bottom than what you see onscreen -- it's just that the extra information is matted by the black bars. In those cases you'd look for scenes where you can get away with showing that extra information to minimize the panning and zooming that needs to be done, however there will be times when the top and bottom information shows things that don't need to be there, like set equipment, and CG FX is usually rendered and applied to the finished frame rather than the open frame, so those shots need to be cropped more. Very complicated work and doing that on the fly is not in the DVD spec.

  10. MIRROR by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Informative
  11. MMM, Elves by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just think Liv Tyler...We all know she got one good thing from her dad. Open up Liv...

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  12. Damn It! by EXTomar · · Score: 5, Funny

    You put the disk in your player but being The One Disk it makes your player disappear. You then end up poking blindly at the front panel for the play button(or eject button...which ever comes first) or finding the long lost remote.

  13. Re:Two and Four disc? by iainl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh no, not again.

    Firstly, forget the 'dual layer, double sided' discs - every piece of research has shown that most people would rather have two single sided disc than one double sided one. Nice disc artwork rather than tiny, hard to read writing to check where side one is, the selling point of a two-disc set and the fact that plenty of people have multi-disc changers but no-one has a player that reads both sides are the main reasons.

    Secondly, no offense to you personally but I trust the likes of David Prior and Charlie De Lauzirika to choose the optimum bitrate and encoding settings for the absolute best in picture quality than I do anyone on Slashdot. Most people here seem to think that MP4 is watchable. I've seen the original and Superbit releases of Fifth Element, and I can see the improvement. Mind you, I think that someone seriously dropped the ball at Lucasfilm over the Pile-O-Cack Episode 1 transfer, so you can tell I'm a picky git.

    On an unrelated note, I only need to know one thing: is the Theatrical Cut going in the four disc set as well, or is there value in buying both (not that I won't probably get both anyway).

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  14. The Two Towers by alexjohns · · Score: 4, Informative
    Saw an ad for LOTR on TV last night. Starting the 29th, they'll start showing advance previews of Two Towers when you go see Fellowship. The scene they showed on TV looked like Helm's Deep, although it could have been Rohan.

    There's your reason to go see it again.

  15. Re:Four hours. by CaptainPhong · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heh, four hours doesn't come close to doing the books justice. The book is an epic adventure through wide spaces, dozens of side stories, meetings with all sorts of interesting people, etc... Heck like half a year passes in the first book. The movie is like "gotta go, gotta go, move move move move move, not enough time, lets skip a few chapters, go go go, action action action, go go go, skip some more, go go go go go, fight some baddies, go go go..." The movie makes it seem like the whole war of the rings took place in 3 days. A movie that actually represented the first book would alone take like 12+ hours, even if some of the more expendable side stories (like Tom Bombadil) were cut.

    If it weren't that mini-series were always so poorly made, it would be better served in that format... Except it would be like 3 seasons long... So, maybe a regular TV show where the entire series is written and shot before it airs... But the first season would have a lot of episodes with no action, so nobody would watch it... Maybe if they took the story and put it in a series of books... Oh, wait...

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  16. As humans.. by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I suspect there will be nine DVDs...

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  17. ObSimpsons by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    Martin:
    • Sundays attitude will be decided via a random number generator. Numbers 1-3 will mean we hate them, numbers 4-6 will mean we like them and numbers 7-9 mean we're flexible: if they put out a good movie, like The Matrix, we like them. If they put out a bad movie, like anything with Leonardo DiCraplio, we hate them.
    Milhouse:
    • Wait...What about 0?
    Bart:
    • Yeah, what about 0?
    Martin:
    • In the unlikely event of a 0, attitude will be decided by rock-paper-scissors competition, best 2 out of 3.
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  18. One extended cut to rule them all... by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...and in the box set bind them.

  19. Seems I upgraded to a widescreen set JUST IN TIME! by tweakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "This tv has been modified. It has been formatted to fit your movie." PAN & SCAN should be a CRIME!

  20. Re:Four hours. by Sharkeys-Day · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... six hours ...

    Is that the version with two hours of Tom Bombadil's singing?

  21. Re:Four hours. by Plutor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Heck like half a year passes in the first book.

    In fact, a little less than 18 years pass during the first book. For seventeen of them, Gandalf is researching the ring and Frodo sits on his ass in Bag End.

    Five months pass between Frodo leaving Bag End until the breaking of the fellowship at Amon Hen. Two of these are spent lounging around Rivendell, and they spend almost an entire month at Lorien. I don't think we'd want to see all of these periods represented accurately in the movie. A sense of urgency in the movie is appopriate and appreciated.

  22. Twenty hour version by peter303 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm looking forward to the director's cut of the merged three movies in 2004. I suspect adding parts from the cutting room floor and revising the three movie scene order will make a smash movie. I'll probably need a lot of Hobbiton weed and Bree beer to watch to it all!

  23. Easiest way to screw the MPAA by DreamingReal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Unfortunately, I'm salivating over this just as much as everyone else on this thread. I want the LOTR DVDs. I want the Simpsons Box Set DVDs. But do I really want to give money to the MPAA & News Corp when they are trying to squash our rights? Not particularly.


    Assuming you are a patient person, there is a way to have your cake and eat it too -


    Buy DVDs second-hand


    You get the discs and the MPAA doesn't see one cent of revenue. Plus, you'll have the added bonus of supporting the First Sale Doctrine, which the media and software companies are silently trying to do away with!

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  24. The Real Scoop on Tom Bombadil by RobertFisher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally, I enjoyed the section on Bombadil. Even as creative as Tolkien is, his world sometimes appears to be a bit cramped. (How is that the Shire was so unheard of when everything was within a few weeks by foot?) The section on Bombadil expands his conception of Middle Earth in both space and time.

    There is an wonderfully written writeup on Bombadil over here. I quote :

    "Likewise, Tom Bombadil was originally a Dutch doll also belonging to Michael Tolkien. John, his brother, put the doll down a lavatory. Bombadil was rescued and Tolkien wrote The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, originally published in Oxford Magazine in 1934. Tolkien later offered to his publishers the idea that Bombadil's story could be expanded into a sequel to The Hobbit, but they didn't bite, so Tom appeared anyway in The Lord of the Rings. Tom makes his debut in the form found in this collection.

    The author's method reminds me of the ways in which painful losses are explained in many other cultures. Examples include some Native American mythologies explaining the disappearance of American bison, and German legends about the disappearance of magical creatures from the world. Tolkien's explanation also seems similar to stories told about the rise of iron and technology and the passing away of old traditions, or of the disappearance of the unicorn (it missed the ark), and the rise of the dichotomy that rends myth from objective "reality." One can see the theme at work in the poem "The Last Ship," present in this collection, and in Tolkien's later writing -- elves sailing out of Middle Earth forever, making way for the age of men.

    Bombadil's Adventures, however, is a heroic comedy in part about his capacity to escape disappearance -- to endure. One kind of disappearance is that of loneliness, where one fades from the view of others, becomes "mythical," alien, other -- larger than life and yet too small to see, casting no shadow. It is the solitude of being attached to other worlds, worlds where story is more than pastime, worlds where real objects have more than one kind of life and significance, and the loneliness of being unable to weave the other worlds and this one seamlessly together, to make everyone understand."

    Bob

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