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Gamma Ray Bursts are Nascent Black Holes
tjgoodwin writes "A paper (PDF format) published in Nature shows, for the first time, that Gamma Ray Bursts are the result of a massive (> 10 solar masses) star collapsing to form a black hole. PPARC has a press release which includes a notable picture of a T. Rex glancing nervously over its shoulder at a supernova!"
Any Helloween fans in the audience?
Fist Sport!
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
"...which includes a notable picture of a T. Rex glancing nervously over its shoulder at a supernova!"
My parents tell me about the days before they had time-travel journalism, but I have to say, I don't believe it.
The hardest question in relation to the Middle East conflict is how the global community should perceive the world-changing events in Israel and the Occupied Territories.
A brief history of the past decade
In 1993, Israel and Palestine signed the 'Oslo Accords', both sides admitting they were wrong, and vowing to make amends. This was a historic occasion for World Peace, made most significant by the 'Doomsday Clock' being moved back to 15 minutes to midnight. (I'm afraid I do not have the link here, so use Google)
What followed surprised and shocked every decent living person in the important countries. Whereas most right-thinking folk would regard a cessation of hostilities to be a sign of hope, the Palestinian terrorists began their perpetual waves of suicide bombings.
This can be traced back to one root cause. Islam. The Koran teaches muslims that when an enemy yields, they should be struck down for good. Israel yielded. Israel admitted they made mistakes. Israel offered the olive branch...
Only to have their hand cut off in the name of 'allah'. Repeatedly, Israel tried diplomacy, attempted to rescue some kind of peace out of the accords, now strewn in tatters across the broken bodies of Jewish civilians. Their reward? More violence. More terrorism.
It is the nature of muslims to destroy. Their beliefs are systematically geared towards the eradication of all non-muslim life on the planet. Presuming their religion to be peaceful and productive, like Sikhism, Hinduism and even Judaism, the western authorities let this cancer spread.
Israel faced a perpetual struggle, both within and outside its borders. For each attempt at rightful defence was rebuked by condemnation from the World Council. In the end, something had to be done. And Israel began fighting back.
What followed was a tit-for-tat exchange of hostilities. Israel advanced. The Palestinians capitulated. Peace was discussed. Israel withdrew. And then the Palestinians attacked again. A perpetual cycle of hatred.
The Israelite Jew is an embittered, harrowed person. Even though they may not agree with the actions of their government, they are perpetual targets of Islamo-racist terrorism. But at least they still have the right to disagree.
Islam does not permit disagreement with the holy jihad which their deluded sub-human footsoldiers are playing out every time they throw a grenade into a Jewish schoolyard.
So, where should the global community stand? Clearly, Islamic terrorism is a world-wide crisis. Be it in New York, France, or the streets of Britain during last year's rioting. Where should we stand? Ask yourself this:
How many countries lost citizens in the name of Islam on September 11th, 2001?
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
Yeah right! and beer glasses talk!
i stopped reading when i saw "this is the only way that...", anyone who uses that phrase to prove thier ideas is not looking hard enough:)
The Truth: There is no string:)
I'm sure Reed Richards and the rest of the Fantastic Four will be happy to hear this. Perhaps they can now develop shielding for the X-10 rocket ship that will finally be able to block those nasty Gamma Rays.
Oh wait, those were cosmic rays. And come to think of it, why they hell would you want to block them? Hell, who doesn't want cool super powers? Trust me kids, it's a blast.
It hurts when I pee.
The pattern of gamma ray bursts uses the same dispersion model of fleeing CEO's from massive (>10 billion shares) companies collapsing to form investor black holes.
- billn
Of course, my real question is whether the purported alternative to black holes, viz. gravastars (Gravitational Condensate Stars; described here, with an associated /. story here), would do the same thing. It's my understanding that a gravastar would appear (almost?) identical to a black hole from the outside, and so ought to be able to produce this kind of phenomenon, but is it so? Would a star collapsing into a gravastar produce a gamma-ray burst? (I assume that, since they are different from black holes, the details of their formation would be different, as well--perhaps different enough to upset the whole thing.)
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I like the t-rex picture's caption: "Gamma Ray Burst Of Doom"!!!!! It sounds like a cheesy B movie.
This is actually a big discovery, if completly true, scientists can now easily count the number of newly born black holes (or gravastars or whatever they are). Making it possible to estimate the total number of black holes in the universe, and if you combine this with the avarage mass of black holes, you can account for alot of darkmatter or not. *INAS*
I saw a special on PBS a while back that came to basically the same conclusion, that only a hypernova could produce enough energy for us to notice them at that distance. Is this paper simply more experimental verification?
This paper is verification that the mechanism can happen. It says nothing (so far) about whether this is the only method, or even the dominant method.
They studied one burst in detail, and found spectral traces strongly suggesting that it was a hypernova event.
Other high-energy events (mostly involving neutron stars) could produce similar gamma ray bursts, but would lack the spectral signature of light elements being blasted away from the bursts.
Only after a survey of many, bursts will we have some idea of what the primary burst mechanism is (and the article mentions a satellite in development that will do exactly this). The results will be interesting, either way.
is the black hole slowly losing mass to make up for the gamma particles or is "Free energy" really possible http://colossus2.cvl.bcm.tmc.edu/~wje/free_energy/
Sounds very much like the program I caught on (Australian) ABC TV last night, which made every effort to look like a very current local production. They definitely made use of some of the same simulations that are shown on the PPARC press release linked from the story.
However the narrator on our ABC was clearly out of his depth:
seemingly ignorant of an expert mentioning "heavier elements" while he, the narrator, must have been too busy trying to invent his own idiosynchratic creation mythology to take notice of the quotes he was supposed to be bracketing.
I already posted my lay thoughts on gravastars and the idea of hypernova added nothing to them.
-- Our systemic servants do not good masters make.