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Tattered Cover v. Thornton Reversed

TheMatt writes "In a victory for all those who like the First Amendment, the Colorado Supreme Court today reversed and remanded 'Tattered Cover v. Thornton'. The case concerned the Thornton police attempting to use a search warrant to gain access to the book-buying records of a suspected criminal. The Tattered Cover asserted First Amendment rights and refused to comply with the warrant. It is believed this will be heard by the US Supreme Court eventually." I can only imagine what the Tattered cover's legal bill must be like.

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  1. That sound you hear..... by s1r_m1xalot · · Score: 5, Funny

    is the death shriek of an innocent server running Apache on a PII 450 somewhere in central Colorado...
    May God have mercy on Tattered Cover's admin. ;)

    1. Re:That sound you hear..... by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > is the death shriek of an innocent server running Apache on a PII 450 somewhere in central Colorado... May God have mercy on Tattered Cover's admin. ;)

      New .gov negotiating position: "Well, their legal bills didn't bankrupt 'em, but their bandwidth bills sure will!" ;-)

    2. Re:That sound you hear..... by Selanit · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, the Tattered Cover is quite well-heeled. I live in Denver, and the place is a Mecca for book lovers. It's the largest bookstore for a thousand miles in any direction. They have a second branch in LoDo (Lower-Downtown) which is smaller but still of quite a respectable size.

      The main branch in downtown Denver has four stories of books (plus a basement). The fifth floor is a well-reviewd restaurant that serves fantastic garlic potatoes (among other things). Oh, and they have a coffee bar which serves the best cappucino in Denver.

      The decor is tasteful and friendly; a big selling point in the Tattered Cover is that they provide lots of big, over-stuffed chairs and let you sit down and read before you buy. In some ways, it feels more like a library than a book store. Their selection of books is phenomenal; There's only one book I've been unable to obtain from them, and that was "On the Erythraean Sea" by Agatharchides of Cnidus. (Contains the only contemporary account of gold-mining techniques in Ptolemaic Egypt; hardly New York Times Best Seller List material.)

      From what I've heard, they have a yearly revenue of a couple million. So, chances are that their web server is more likely to be a dual-cpu RAM-out-the-wazoo behemoth than a PII 450.

    3. Re:That sound you hear..... by stylewagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry to be a pain but they're actually running Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on Solaris. Uptime looks good.

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  2. Judgeorama? by RollingThunder · · Score: 5, Funny
    JUSTICE BENDER delivered the Opinion of the Court.


    "The prosecution can bite my shiny, metal ass. Case dismissed."
    1. Re:Judgeorama? by teslatug · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is the judge a woman? "Single female lawyer, fighting for her clients, wearing tiny mini-skirts, and being self-reliant"

    2. Re:Judgeorama? by CaptainStormfield · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. Justice bender is a he. here is his bio.

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    3. Re:Judgeorama? by jafac · · Score: 3, Funny

      Justice Dredd?

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  3. It's a shame that this sham has gone this far. by dave-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's bad enough that the RIAA wants to watch who's listening to what and where and how. It's bad enough that the MPAA wants to make sure you don't watch DVDs in the wrong country on the wrong brand of TV. It's horrible that they've bought enough senators to have their way with us, but it's fucking untenable that what we read can be subpeoaned and used against us.
    Reading, music and movies are all unsafe at any speed. Let me know if you find a hobby I can enjoy without feeling someone's eyes on my back.

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    1. Re:It's a shame that this sham has gone this far. by swagr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Think about how much time, money, and other resources the average person spends protecting their freedom: 2 minutes on Slashdot compaining. Now lets think about how much time, money and other resources these organizations spend trying to take away our freedon: 24/7/365, millions of dollars, any resource they can use (advertizing, lawyers, congress).

      Who do you think will win this fight?

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  4. Tattered cover... by doooras · · Score: 3, Funny

    i like that name.

    makes me want to start a computer company called Dented Boxen

    1. Re:Tattered cover... by jheinen · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's actually a really cool bookstore. It's positively huge - four floors, with comfy chairs and couches all over the place. They have successfully perservered as an independent bookstore in the face of competition from the big chains.

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  5. In this case by guamman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Tattered Cover may not be in the right. The first amendment protects speech, religion, and the right to openly demonstrate those. It does not protect the right to privacy. I can certainly understand the bookstores reluctance to give out its customer's purchasing records, but if the government has a warrant there might not be much that can be done. I would assume this falls under the fourth amendment about search and seizure.

    1. Re:In this case by Zoop · · Score: 5, Interesting

      if the government has a warrant there might not be much that can be done

      Read the actual decision in the word document. It's pretty plain there that the expression of speech includes consuming speech without harassment, which implies a right to privacy. While it would be better explicit, this is what a woman's right to choose is (mistakenly, IMO) based on. (I'd prefer it be based on property rights, but that's a whole 'nuther argument).

      There's a lot of constitutional scholarship that has found a right to privacy implicit in the other rights, including those expressed in the First Amendment. This decision attempts to set up a test, essentially that the hated "compelling state interest," must be determined in an adversarial proceeding before seizure occurs--that means not just the DA and a judge in a darkened room, but a hearing giving the affected party a chance to object. And on the basis of the facts of the case, the Court did not find compelling state interest sufficient to outweigh the constitutional harm.

      The Supreme Court may yet overturn it, but it would be an interesting precedent if upheld. That would significantly curtail the ability of police to do various seizures without a suspect's knowledge. Since several of those things (e.g. wiretaps) have passed constitutional muster before, that's where I see this to be in danger of being overturned, rather than a lack of a right to privacy.

    2. Re:In this case by cduffy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, if you read the entire opinion, the judge talks quite a bit about why the 1st amendment *should* apply. To put it briefly, freedom of expression implies freedom to recieve that expression, ie. by purchasing and reading books; making it easy for law enforcement to find out who's reading what would have a substancial chilling effect on the first amendment rights of both book buyers and publishers as a whole.

  6. My god...someone give this man a medal! by Cutriss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation--and their ideas from suppression--at the hand of an intolerant society," wrote Justice Bender.

    Mr. Bender, would you please run for Congress?

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  7. Tattered Cover by daviskw · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you not from Colorado. The Tattered Cover is a bookstore chain out here in Colorado that specializes in all sorts of books over all sorts of subjects. The two stores that I am aware of (there may be more) are at least three, maybe for fours. There are not a used book store and the can be said to be larger than any Barnes and Nobles that I know of.

    From a computer books perspective they are neither the best nor the worst but certainly they do carry them.

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  8. Screw the Tattered Cover by Mad+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's time to close the "book store loophole," where criminals can purchase "how to" books that contain instructional information on committing illegal acts without any type of background check.

    Do it for the children.

    Every time I excercise my second amendment rights by purchasing a firearm, I am required to fill out a government form with all sorts of personal information. The seller is then required to get permission from the FBI and Colorado Bureau of Investigation to complete the transaction.

    The government has illegally been keeping these records. After being conditioned that this is "reasonable," -- often by first amendment extremists -- why should I give a flying rat's ass if it happens to other people?

  9. Even that doesn't work... by Big+Sean+O · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My computer store always asks for my name and address, even when I buy with cash. I usually tell them "No thanks" but one woman kept at it, so I gave her the address for Wrigley Field, heh heh.

    Radio Shack was the original offender in this 'collecting your address to serve you better' BS, but it seems to be picking up steam as 'the thing to do'.

    So, pay cash, and remember "3600 N. Clark Street, Chicago Illinois, 60657".
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  10. Supreme Court by Artagel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I doubt the U.S. Supreme Court will take it.

    The Colorado Supreme Court restricted the ability of Colorado police to execute a search warrant.

    First, there is a doctrine that says if there is an independent state ground for the ruling, then there is not a basis for Supreme Court review. This doctrine has less applicability when a Constitutional right is being allegedly violated. However, nobody says that the Colorado police have a Constitutional right to the search -- if anything the ruling tends to support Constitutional rights.

    Second, Federalism doctrine, which the current U.S. Supreme Court favors, would tend to lead to the conclusion that the U.S. Supreme Court should let the Colorado Supreme Court rein in the Colorado police if it wants to.

    There will be other cases in the future, and the Supreme Court may well hear one. Just not this one.

    1. Re:Supreme Court by d5w · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I doubt the U.S. Supreme Court will take it.
      With all the usual IANAL qualifications, I'll give another reason in support of this statement: not only did the Colorado court rule on actions in Colorado, as the above comment says, but the court based its decision on the Colorado constitution. My understanding is that, while the Supreme Court sometimes corrects state courts on interpretations of the US constitution, it stays away from telling them what their own state constitutions mean.
  11. Re:An uninformed opinion by s390 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...I'd appreciate someone pointing me to the background for this story...

    OK, here's the story. The local police busted a meth lab and found how-to drug manuals in a trailer, along with receipts from the bookstore. But the receipts didn't name the purchaser of the books, so the local DA subpoenaed the bookstore's customer records. The bookstore fought the subpoena and won.

  12. Re:1st Amendment? Not 4th? by realgone · · Score: 3, Interesting
    So I'm confused, how exactly does this relate to the 1st? Freedom of the press?

    (IANAL but...) freedom of speech has traditionally been interpreted as protecting a dialog of ideas (as opposed to a monologue). In other words, not only are your rights to express an idea protected, but also your right to receive ideas lawfully expressed by others. (Otherwise, the government could simply say: "Freedom of speech? Sure, talk all you want. Just step into this soundproofed room first.") Freedom of expression without reasonable freedom of channels of expression is more or less useless.

    In this case, it seems the court found that, among other things, the warrant placed an undue burden on the bookstore in its role as a channel of constitutionally protected speech.
  13. HTML version of court opinion (above is MSWord) by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: 3, Informative
    HTML version of the opinion (the link given in the posting leads to an MS Word)

    http://www.cobar.org/CFwebFiles/Content/dspOpinion . fm?OpinionID=560

    With this case, we recognize that both the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article II, Section 10 of the Colorado Constitution protect an individual's fundamental right to purchase books anonymously, free from governmental interference. Law enforcement officials implicate this right when they seek judicial approval of a search warrant authorizing seizure of customer purchase records from an innocent, third-party bookseller. This case requires us to decide what test should be applied to balance the constitutional rights of individuals and bookstores against the duty of law enforcement officials to investigate crime.

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  14. Why bother to support your local bookstore? by melquiades · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One question:

    Can you imagine Barnes & Noble, Borders, or Amazon.com doing what the Tattered Cover has done?

  15. Subpoena, not search warrant! by Spazmania · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I first read this, I thought: "That's very strange. Why shouldn't the police be able to get the book buying records of a legitimate criminal suspect? They can get phone company records and credit card records, right?"

    Pages 9 and 10 of the ruling make it clear:

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    [Officer Goin] and DI McFarland then served the Tattered Cover with a DEA administrative subpoena. [...] Using such a subpoena was ordinarily a successful technique for DEA officers, though such a subpoena lacks any legal force or effect.

    [...]

    INSTEAD OF ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN AN ENFORCEABLE SUBPOENA, Officer Goin approached prosecutors from the Adams County District Attorney's office to get a search warrant for the Tattered Cover. Several prosecutors at the Adams County DA's office refused to sign off on the warrant, voicing concerns about its scope and subject matter. [...]

    Without informing the Adams County DA's office, Officer Goin sought approval for his search warrant from the Denver DA's office. As approved by a Denver DA, the warrant authorized a search of the Tattered Cover for information related to the transaction in question, and for records of any other transaction involving Suspect A during the thirty-day period before the police searched the trailer. A Denver county court judge then approved the warrant.

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    So, basically the Officer was a dope who tried to do an end-run around the law. Oops!

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  16. free speech and anonymity by SethJohnson · · Score: 3, Insightful


    The question you appear to be asking here is whether or not free speech covers anonymous speech. This is still an issue that is being debated in the state courts. The KKK has been semi-succesful in overturning some state courts on this matter because they (along with ACLU backing) claim they should be able to march in rallies with their hoods hiding their identities.

    The Tattered Cover is trying to defend its right to sell (publish) books to anonymous readers. The thought here is that if book purchasers were aware that their reading habits were under scrutiny by the govt., then they would be less likely to purchase books containing unpopular opinions. This infringes on the Tattered Cover's ability to speak (sell books containing) unpopular opinions.

    Perhaps a more immediate example is your ability to post to slashdot as your own login or an Anonymous Coward. Wouldn't you feel like your 1st Amendment rights were being revoked if there wasn't that 'Post Anonymously' checkbox available? Obviously there are means to backtrack IP addresses, etc. in cases where a poster has threatened the life of the pres., etc. but those mechanisms wouldn't be used to suppress unpopular speech.
  17. Freedom to think by HardCase · · Score: 3, Informative

    The court's decision is chock full of some very significant ideas and quotes from previous cases, many of which directly apply to another free speech issue - the DMCA.

    For example: "Without the right to receive information and ideas, the protection of speech under the United States and Colorado Constitutions would be meaningless."

    Or: "Everyone must be permitted to discover and consider the full range of expression and ideas available in our 'marketplace of ideas.'"

    Footnote 14 in the text of the decision is an absolutely brilliant quotation of Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis regarding the "freedom to think as you will and speak as you think".

    The decision is well worth reading. It's not in some sort of complex legalese. Far from it, it is very clearly stated.

    -h-

  18. Thanks, TC by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something most independent bookstores have in common is that they will fight tooth and nail to preserve your First Amendment rights. What Tattered just did was fight back what could easily be the first step on a slippery slope to eroding our rights. Think of what might happen next if Tattered lost. Publishers might become reluctant to publish so-called "subversive" material. Readers would have to be wary about which books they bought, knowing that the records could be subpeonaed.

    Think about that the next time you buy books. The big chains, amazon, et. al do not have this tradition of protecting your information - in fact they are looking at ways to make use of it for marketing purposes. Its the independent bookstores around the country who really care about defending the First Amendment, because that reflects in the quality of literature we will see, and ultimately reflects on our individual freedom to write and speak as we choose. When was the last time you saw "Banned Books week" at amazon.com or Barnes & Noble?

    Now we have a good legal precedent to back us up. Thanks, Tattered Cover!

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  19. Before you break out the champagne, ... by blamanj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that under the so-called "Patriot Act", not only will the FBI be able to seize these kinds of records, but it will be illegal for the media to report on any such seizure. How's that for the ability to rewrite history, Soviet-style?

    Details here.

    The FBI was never here, go about your business.

    1. Re:Before you break out the champagne, ... by kindbud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Patriot Act is just like the DMCA. It's proponents are afraid to use its most draconian measures for fear that the result would be the courts striking the whole thing from the books. The Patriot Act, like the DMCA, is a means to cower the defenseless. No one who has the means to defend themselves will be attacked with any controversial provisions in the Patriot Act. In other words, the prohibition against the media reporting seizures is irrelevent, because no one the media would care to report on will be targetted by the seizure provisions.

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  20. A modest proposal by kindbud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the future, instead of linking to Amazon when you want to refer someone to a book, link to The Tattered Cover, like this:

    The Termcap Manual, by Richard Stallman.

    Support the folks that regard as important the same ideals you regard as important. Amazon is not your friend. The Tattered Cover is. They are fighting the good fight, and at no small cost to themselves. You should thank them by sending them your business and your friends' business.

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    1. Re:A modest proposal by White+Roses · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This is probably the best idea to hit /. in a while. Stop linking to Amazon, with their idiotic 1-Click patent, and start linking to someone who has better policies and practices. All my book links are going to them as of now.

      Thinking in Java, Bruce Eckel

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  21. Re: Kneejerk slashdot response by phliar · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Quoth Binx Bolling:
    Probable cause + Warrant = Perfectly legal
    I bought a copy of a book on how to make methamphetamines from this bookstore. In a raid on a meth lab, the cops found this book. In the trashcan outside, they found an envelope from the bookstore.

    Now the cops want the bookstore to give them a list of all people who bought the book. Where's probable cause? Why should the cops know anything about my reading habits?

    If we live in a climate where unpleasant books we buy bring us to the attention of the State, do we still have freedom of expression?

    The State no longer will need to ban books. Ashcroft merely says "We will be subpoena'ing all bookstore records for purchasers of Book X."

    As the article says, books are different from fertilizer.

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