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Do-it-yourself CPU Water Cooler

Foss writes "This article on EIMod.com shows a (very) cheap and effective way of getting that usually-expensive water cooling system that many of us have thought about. There are some pretty pictures too :)"

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  1. cheap and easy... by doooras · · Score: 5, Funny

    just cover your hardware in saran wrap and dump ice in the box. works like a charm to keep it cool.

    1. Re:cheap and easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just seal up the case with silicone and fill it with PCB. You should be able to get PCB for nothing at a toxic waste dump. No pumps or fans required, the oil will circulate in the case through convection. This is quiet and safe, since PCB doesn't burn and is pretty much non-toxic. It does cause cancer in rats though, but rats are sensitive creatures and can get cancer from anything...

  2. Instructions that you don't want to see by hij · · Score: 5, Funny
    use a double knot to stop the string coming undone and use only cotton string!

    These are the sorts of instructions I don't like to see in a mod! At least it doesn't mention chewing gum...

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  3. Cheap and effective? by SimplyCosmic · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Sure, for the ten minutes that the article mentions that the pump runs before overheating.

    1. Re:Cheap and effective? by Wingchild · · Score: 3, Funny

      It also doesn't mention Duct Tape, the universal constant, so I question the veracity of the report.

  4. one of the better ones that i've seen.... by SGDarkKnight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    was at the London Smackdown tournament that I went to. This guy had to carry around an extra cooling pouch with all the stuff built into it. There are 3 pics of it here, here, and here. The third pic is the best view of the pouch and the first two show you the in'erds on the computer.

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  5. Liquid Nitrogen Cooling by Davak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why go to all this trouble? This is obviously the way of the future. :)

  6. Eeek! by JimPooley · · Score: 4, Funny

    The words 'cheap', 'water' and 'computer' used in close proximity do not inspire confidence or an incentive to try this mod out.
    Then I read about the cotton...!

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  7. Has anyone just stuck the board in the fridge? by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Just sticking the CPU board into a mini-fridge would be cheap and would probably work pretty well. Plus any extra space could be used to keep your beer cold.

    -S

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  8. What cools the pump, an underclocked '286? by Tall_Rob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, so his water pump is only designed to run for a max of 10 minutes before overheating. Since overclocked CPUs generate heat, an underclocked CPU must be able to absorb heat, right? RIGHT? Why not slap an old 286 onto the pump, underclock it to run at, oh, say, 2 Hz (not mHz, but plain ol' Hz) and the 286 will absorb all the excess heat off the pump! Voila! :-)

    Or should he just get a water cooler to put on the pump, which would in turn need a water cooler for ITS pump, which would need a water cooler for ITS pump, which would . . . oh, wait, this is infinite nesting, isn't it? :-P

    1. Re:What cools the pump, an underclocked '286? by markmoss · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, what he needs (and no doubt he is aware of it), is a better pump. Also proper tubing fittings, hose clamps, baffles inside the waterblock to direct the flow so all of it gets cooled, ears on the block to attach spring-clip heatsink holders, and so on. But the cheap 10-minute pump is good enough for checking out whether he's on the right track -- and he claims his budget was 77 pence, which I think is about $1 US. Aquarium pumps run continuously and aren't too expensive, but on that budget you use what you already have...

      I do hope that he used thermal grease -- the article doesn't say one way or the other, but even a perfect heat sink can't cool well if the heat has trouble getting _to_ it.

      One thing that did kind of bother me: "Although it seems that copper would be best suited for making a water block, I'm not entirely convinced without physical proof." It scares me that anyone who has to ask would be doing this! Copper is indeed the best material, unless you are on a NASA cost plus 10% contract, then use gold and increase your profit. ;-) Copper is resistant to corrosion and has the second highest heat transfer rate (by volume) of any material available in bulk. Gold is better and aluminum is worse on both counts. When aluminum is used instead of copper, they are trading off a little effectiveness for considerable savings in cost and weight; if you are using water, weight better not be an issue, and for a do-it-yourself project you'd spend a lot more trying to solder aluminum than copper will cost...

  9. Geez by mcrbids · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With the money he spent on this "cheap" water-cooler, he couldv'e PURCHASED A 1GHZ CPU!

    Oh, and it'd work for more than 10 minutes too!

    The things a guy will do...

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  10. Why water, try oil. by bluGill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Water conducts electrisity. Well, pure water doesn't, but pure water will eat metal until it does conduct. That means you have to keep your water carefully sererate from everything else.

    By contrast, oil doesn't conduct, doesn't disolve metal. Fill your case with oil, and you have better cooling than air, and much easier to deal with. (Note, oil isn't as good as water for heat capacity, but it is still better than air and has all the other advantages)

  11. Re: Why water? by Wingchild · · Score: 4, Funny

    Water cooling requires that the water, passing nearby a heat source, absorbs the heat and carries in on to a place where it can be safely transferred into the surrounding environment. The old Second Law, Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, etc etc.

    So why would we opt for water, which would be a less than optimal coolant? Because hot water makes *coffee*. Imagine! You could have a water-cooled server *and a coffee machine* all in the same rackmount!

    The possibilities are endless.

  12. Personal Experience by quantax · · Score: 3, Informative

    As someone who has built his own homemade watercooler, this setup is very jury-rigged and definately not recommended for any sort of serious long term cooling. The copper-tube inlets need to be replaced w/ brass fittings to avoid leakage, and the rubber bands should be replaced with cheap and much more effective band clamps. This waterblock design is not effective water-distrobution wise either as the water is not forced to flow through out the entire design. This would let the side furthest the inlets get hot due to poor water flow. An open chamber is only good for small waterblocks. Lastly, using thread to attach a waterblock to the cpu is ghetto as hell. Either quickly engineer a heatsink clamp yourself, or just look up a guide on the net for this, its pretty simple. Watercooling is one of those things that can be done many different ways, but this particular method is a little more 'amature' than is recommended to put on any piece of equipment that you value. If you are going to take the time to make your own watercooling, also take the time to make sure its engineered right.

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  13. Watercooling works great by xtal · · Score: 5, Informative

    I run a watercooled machine as my primary work box. It's great, and the noise savings were incredible. No more whirrrrrr. Fits snugly into a standard mid tower case.

    I have a page up with all the details of contsruction for you who are interested. I've been running it for a few months, 24/7, and there have been no problems whatsoever. I took a few additional precautions, but the system as been moved around several times without any difficulties whatsoever and I highly recommend it to others who are interested.

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    1. Re:Watercooling works great by xtal · · Score: 3, Informative

      Heya.. the sediment only appeared when I did the first test run and drain, and it was obviously copper burrs (although there was some black stuff that wasn't identifyable - this could have been water wetter percipitate). I was concerned about the larger burrs because they look like they could have damaged the magnetic impeller it uses.

      However, the box is on 24/7 since then and hasn't had so much as a hiccup :). I can highly recommend it as a upper-end mod for those who want silent running.

      Thanks for the compliments on the page, too :-).

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  14. seems like a pretty complex way to make awaterbloc by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Informative

    my friend had me mill one for him for a science experiment. actually , ended up about 5 of them. he bought 2x2x1" aluminum blocks. i milled two holes through (one end to the other), side by side. he tapped them, and attached plumbing devices to the newly threaded areas. The other method was to bore four holes - two holes one one side that went 80% through, and 2 holes on the adjacent side that also went 80% through. tapped, and attached appropriate connectors. no leaks to patch. since the tops were flat, he also took the old heat sink + fan, removed the fan, and used that to dissipate evem more heat.

    i never got the results back, but if anyone's interested, i can get the data to you, along with pics and more details.

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  15. Re:look at what I found on eimod.com by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These guys have some time on their hands.

    That's cool though- they are just thinking up ideas and trying them out. They are not worrying too much about convention apparently.

    How many great ideas started that way?

    More than I could name.

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  16. Hydroponic CPU's by muerte24 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    i built a water CPU cooler for $20 out of pocket costs. of course, that doesn't count the stuff i stole from work. :) it's a machined copper slug, a reservoir, and a $20 aquarium pump.

    if you turn the thing on with a cool reservoir, the CPU temp stays below 76F. but after being on for 10 hours, the reservoir temperature raises to about 113F due to my lack of money to buy a real radiator. so my equilibrium CPU temp with an Athlon XP 1600 is 123F, when the fan it came with ran it at 145F.

    you can see pictures and stuff here.

    granted, copper slugs and machining equipment and "free" swagelock (and peltiers!) is not something everyone has, but use what you got, right?

    hope someone finds it useful or interesting.

    muerte

  17. Ouch! by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Funny

    "1 - 3 grams of solder should be enough, but it's always best to buy excessive amount just to cover yourself."

    Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't covering yourself with solder hurt like hell?

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  18. Re:String and rubber bands? by Grab · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, pretty grim.

    For the benefit of that guy, if he's reading...

    1) Most of your water will go straight in and straight out again without doing much cooling. A heatsink should force the water to go all the way round the heatsink - try adding some baffles inside the box to improve that.

    2) Have you never heard of hose clips? 50c each and 100% reliable at clamping off flexible hoses without leakage.

    3) Get some heatsink compound between the heatsink and the processor. Without it, a fair chunk of the heat is never even getting to the heatsink, so the whole point of having a nice efficient heatsink is wasted.

    Grab.

  19. You don't need a radiator... by Exedore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...to shed heat from the coolant. Just run the water coming from the cpu to a shower head (or similar) suspended above an open reservior. The water is dispersed by the shower head (increasing surface area) and cooled by the air as it falls into the container below.

    Granted, this approach requires an open reservoir outside of the case, but it's simple, effective, and cheap.

    Bonus: it can also replace those stupid "Sounds of Nature" tapes that people use for background noise at bedtime.

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  20. Re:What's the point? by xtal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Watercooling can completely eliminate system noise. In addition, in my experience, my system was much more stable when watercooled than when it wasn't. I run simulations that can run for a day or more, and stability issues can present themselves - no more with the watercooler.

    There's two reasons for you right there :). And, you can usually overclock to as high as the motherboard will allow as a side benefit.

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  21. This story actually teaches a lot... by jhiv · · Score: 5, Informative

    This story actually teaches a lot about how not to build a water-cooling system for a CPU.

    Some specific observations:
    1. The low delta T (temperature difference) for the water going through the system is a sure indication of low efficiency. The most likely culprit is poor contact between the block and the CPU. Thin sheeting was used, and ripples are clearly visible in the pictures. The block is probably only touching in a few places and there is no mention of using thermal grease. A stiffer bottom plate was clearly called for.
    2. As mentioned elsewhere, hose clamps should have been used. (String? Let's not go there...)
    3. There is no radiator to dump the heat back to the environment. The heat transfer from the surface of the tank is probably not sufficient to keep the temperatures low. The radiator should be after the pump, to dump the heat from the pump also.
    Perhaps the story should have been posted with the "laugh, it's funny" icon.

    BTW, I prefer Indium foil as the thermal gasket between the CPU and heat sink, not thermal grease. Unfortunately, Indium is usually as expensive as gold.