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Iceland Moving to Hydrogen Economy

LordSah writes "Related to the recent coverage of hydrogen, it seems that Iceland is making plans to dump oil in favor of hydrogen produced by the country's abundant supply of geothermic energy. Iceland is being used as an experiment to test out hydrogen fuel cell technology en masse. It has backing from DaimlerChrysler, Shell Oil and the European Union. Article here."

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  1. Wow! by nosferatu-man · · Score: 2

    THAT didn't take them long.

    (jfb)

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  2. Mentions exporting by BlackHat · · Score: 2, Funny

    and that they had no way of doing so.

    It's hydrogen. Wrap it in a big bag and fly it to the buyer. How hard is that?? Yesh.

    1. Re:Mentions exporting by DietFluffy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe you intended that to be a joke, but it's not quite that simple. The hydrogen would have to be highly compressed to make transport economical. Aside from that, the storing and transporting of hydrogen gas is very similar to the handling of natural gas and propane, so they shouldn't run into any real problems.

  3. I'm movin... by Raskolnk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cool. Hydrogen power, hottie blondes, and Bjork.

    I'm moving in!

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    1. Re:I'm movin... by xarfel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Abso-freakin-lutely

      Does U-haul have boats?

  4. Re:This begs the question by hublan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What they doing, in both this case and deCode (which I assume you're alluding to) is allowing big corporations to pour millions of dollars into the economy for something that's readily available and sustainable non-polluting natural resources.

    For a nation that's built its whole economy of fish and seeing the fish stocks plummet, this can only be a Good Thing(tm).

    At least they're not opening up large wildlife refuges for oil-drilling.

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  5. Solved the storgae problem by Veramocor · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wonder if they come close to solving the storageproblem. Hydrgogen has a low fuel value so you need a lot of it. That means high pressure tanks. Which can be expensive and dangerous.

    One thing I know in Syracuse they were working on is storing hydrogen on carbon matrix.

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  6. Re:Solved the storage problem by hij · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's also the leakage problem. It is such a light gas that it is very difficult to avoid losing some. This means that it is beneficial to use it in very well ventilated places. The bad news: this is not what you look for in a house on Iceland!

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  7. Hello? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Iceland has been powered on geothermic energy since 1930! Hitaveita Reykjavikur (Reykjavik District Heating) supplies Reykjavik and several neighboring communities with geothermal water. There are about 150 thousand inhabitants in that area, living in about 35 thousand houses. This is way over half the population of Iceland. Total harnessed power of the utility's geothermal fields, including the Nesjavellir plant, amounts to 660 MWt, and its distribution system carries an annual flow of 55 million cubic meters of water. The first geothermal power plant was built in 1969 when a 3-MWe back-pressure turbine was installed in Bjamarflag (Námafjall field). The total electrical production of the Bjamarflag power plant in 1995 was 11.5 Gwh. The Krafla power plant, located about 10 km north of the Námafjall field, has been in operation since 1977. Initially, the power production was 8 MWe, but reached the present 30 MWe in 1982. In 1995 the total annual geothermal energy production for electricity use was 288 gigawatt hours. The list goes on.

    Perhaps a little bit of research could be done to debunk crap stories like this. 15 minutes on google is all it takes to add a little credibility.

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  8. Try reading the article first. by DeadMeat+(TM) · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suppose they park their cars over thermal vents overnight to power them?

    1. Re:Try reading the article first. by webster · · Score: 2

      They use big, long extension cords for their fishing boats. The only problem is the time it takes to untangle it all at the end of the day.

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  9. Re:Solved the storage problem by Havokmon · · Score: 2
    How would that differ from propane storage? Is propane under less pressure? Is it more flammable?

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  10. Re:Solved the storage problem by sbeitzel · · Score: 4, Informative
    How would that differ from propane storage? Is propane under less pressure?

    Hydrogen storage is different for a couple of reasons:
    1. Hydrogen makes metal brittle, so that you can't store it directly in a (for instance) steel tank, but have to make the tank glass-lined.
    2. Yes, propane is stored at significantly lower pressure.
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