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What Turns You Off About Evaluation Software?

An Anonymous Coward asks: "I work at a mid-tier software company (which shall remain nameless, lest I draw attention to myself). Recently we have started making 30 day evaluation versions of our software available for download after prospects register. An email containing a username and password is sent to the registrant a few hours after submission. We have been surprised to find that not a few registrants don't actually go on to download the software. We make the file size and system requirements clear up front. I would guess some slashdot readers get involved in evaluations. What process do you go through? Why might you stop short of actually downloading the software?"

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  1. I dont enter my email by reptilian+biotech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it wants a valid email addy, I forget it and find something else. say no to spam

    1. Re:I dont enter my email by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If I am going to use commercial software, it means I gave up trying to find a similar product under the GPL. I have only come across this problem in several instances, all times when I needed something for a Windows network.

      How to turn customers off:
      1. Make them enter an e-mail address.
      2. Make them fill out a form. See 1.
      3. Make them wait for registration info.
      4. Use a 30 day limit. 90 sounds better.
      5. Make them do all that crap for software they didn't need or like anyhow.
      6. Have you sales staff hound them nonstop by phone and e-mail and personal visits. (Will you folks at StorageSoft get the point?)

      How to turn customers on:
      1. 90 day or unlimited trial only with the stupid features turned off.
      2. No registration crap.
      3. Precise product description, no lies.
      4. Screenshots, my god, screenshots.
      5. Multiple fast download sites. I should be able to get 150k/sec at least.
      6. No hunting for downloadable files. This goes for you too, Real.
      7. Upfront licensing policies and prices. Tell me on your website how much I have to pay for 1, 10, or a site license.
      8. I will call you if I want to buy it. Don't feel free to bother me during my lunch hour. Your voicemails get deleted, too.
      9. If you must have my e-mail address, remember this: My inbox is a sacred shrine, none shall enter that are not worthy.

      -my $.02

    2. Re:I dont enter my email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


      How to turn customers on:
      1. 90 day or unlimited trial only with the stupid features turned off.

      In other words, pretty much give it away for free. (90 days apart to uninstall/reinstall or in some cases reformat is not much of a pain in the ass.) Not that this surprises me coming from Slashdot, News for People Who Don't Want To Pay.

      2. No registration crap.

      If you're serious about trying out the software and would seriously consider purchasing it, giving them an e-mail so a representative can contact you for support makes sense. Not really for like winzip, but if you're downloading a trial of a professional software package it's more professional, in my opinion, if after downloading it you get an e-mail from Bob Soandso and his phone number if you have any questions about how to use the software, etc.

    3. Re:I dont enter my email by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ummm....then how is it different then the full version? Evaluation software is supposed to be used for *evaluation*. Not for five-nines critical applications. On a server the popup messages will go unnoticed, and the startup sequence will appear almost never. If you want to use it longer, then maybe it's time you paid for it.

    4. Re:I dont enter my email by cropserion · · Score: 5, Funny

      2. No registration crap.

      If you're serious about trying out the software and would seriously consider purchasing it, giving them an e-mail so a representative can contact you for support makes sense. Not really for like winzip, but if you're downloading a trial of a professional software package it's more professional, in my opinion, if after downloading it you get an e-mail from Bob Soandso and his phone number if you have any questions about how to use the software, etc.


      I have to agree with the AC on this one, if you are really trying a piece of software then you should enter an email addr.

      Personally I have my own domain and all emails sent to that domain goto the one mailbox by default, so when filling out a web form I will always use a different_name@mydomain for the name portion of the address. I always try to use a name similar to the company who want my address, for instance I would use redhat@mydomain when filling out a form on the redhat site.
      Then if I find that I am receiving alot of spam to a particular address I will then block all mails to that address in sendmail. I also try to find the sales and support email address of the company who sold my address to the spammers and I will sign up their address for newsletters from some of the sickest porn sites I can find.

      I guess for most people this isn't an option but it works for me :)

    5. Re:I dont enter my email by Cryptnotic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      However, the piracy of Windows and Microsoft software has definately contributed to their dominance of the computer industry. If they made their products more difficult to pirate, the pirates (probably a good 50% of home/hobbyist users) would look for an alternative.

      It's just like if you're planning on filing a lawsuit against someone. You go after the people with money.

      Cryptnotic

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    6. Re:I dont enter my email by cwikla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I personally think that evaluation periods should be mandatory. I write software, and I've bought software, and there is nothing worse than picking up a piece of software and then finding it so bug-ridden or unuseful for your situation that you've just blown tens or hundreds of bucks. The evaluation help both sides, you get to try my software, and I get to expose you to my software that I hope you buy. However, once the evaluation period is done, too bad, buy the software or find something else. If it's that useful for you then I don't know why a 30 day period wouldn't be plenty (heck, I give 45) for you to make a decision. As a software author I WANT your phone ringing off the hook -- apparantly it's the incentive you need to get around to paying me for my software that obviously benefits you or your company.

    7. Re:I dont enter my email by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      sorry, but at work we have a download that is only available after filling out a contact form.. OVER 50% of the email adresses are fake. so this makes this information collection system worthless and useless.

      If you are catering to a technically savvy user, you will never get a useable email address on your download form... let alone any other useful information.. I personally fill things out with all bogus info and u
      se a disposable email addy. and It is a practive I reccomend to everyone here at work also..

      #1- get rid of any forms to fill out . they are a waset of your time and drives away customers.

      #2 - IF you get a real email address. delete ALL customer information when the customer asks to have your sales department to stop harassing them. There are 2 electronic CAD companies I have twice asked to stop emailling me. I had to resort to writing a script that takes every email I recieve from them and send out 10 copies to assorted email addresses in the company with STOP SENDING THIS TO ME auto added to the top. I finally had to contact the CEO with a letter explaining that I wil make sure that noone I know will ever buy their products because of their sales department for the emails to stop.

      finally.. Dont you dare sell that contact information. Only the scummiest companies sell their user database... do you want to be a part of that? I made sure my company isnt. and I make sure to tell the boss that his bright idea of forcing contact info to be entered was a dumb idea and is only wasting everyone's time... mentioning this at meetings is a great way to remove such silly things.

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    8. Re:I dont enter my email by arivanov · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In a windows network broadcast a message to the default domain/workgroup saying "Pay your bill or you are violating your license agreement.". This is a three liner.

      Do it periodically. Every 10 mins.

      Does the job quite nicely.

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    9. Re:I dont enter my email by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting
      If not, but you take it upon yourself to write one, there's even a better hack approach to take. Modify sendmail to 'tarpit' the spammers.

      Once the RCPT TO: <certain_spammer@my.domain> identifies an inbound-but-unwanted letter, rather than have it drop the connection, have it S...L...O...W - I...T...S...E...L...F - D...O...W...N. Spam works because they can send thousands out easily. They still have to establish thousands of connections. Make any appreciable percent of those difficult, and spam will not work as well.

      This might not work so well with true $$MAKE_MONEY_FAST$$ spam, but it should work for those companies who refuse to stop sending you email. They're usually more clueless than you might expect.

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  2. Evaluation Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A large factor in my downloading a piece of evaluation is whether there is a crack available for it. If there isn't a crack then if the evaluation isn't hindered in any way for the amount of time it is allowed to be evaluated would be a factor. Of course, usefulness of the software is a large portion as well. Assuming there is a crack, then if the software is used frequently it would get paid for sometime.

  3. the wait.... by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the words of Veruka, "but I want it NOW!"...

    If the link/password/whatever hasn't hit my inbox in a minute or two, I'm probably moving on looking for another thing to try. Welcome to the short attention span decade.

  4. reg process turns me off by stubear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless I really need the software I avoid registration processes such as those that you require. I do not like to give out personal informaiton, including e-mail addresses, just evaluate software. Not only am I concerned about spam, I abhor receiving e-mails from the sales staff of the company, especially if I state that I do not want to receive e-mail from the company if that option is available. If you want people to evaluate the software and purchase it after the evaluation period is through, provide a warning at the end of the eval which links the user to the comany website where they can purchase the software. If they truly want to buy it they will. Also, offer a link in the help menu which directs the user to the web storefront where they can buy the software should they decide to do so before the eval period is up.

  5. Joel's rule by blacksqr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Joel's rule: every barrier to implementation reduces your customer base by 50%

    http://www.joelonsoftware.com

    1. Re:Joel's rule by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Joel's rule: every barrier to implementation reduces your customer base by 50%

      This was actually very literally proved out at Borland, too. While I was the Web guy there, we watched "attrition" rates for pages. It went something like this: if you have a home page with 1000 people hitting it, only 500 people will hit the subpages, and only 250 people will hit the sub-subpages. Once we realized that, we quickly moved to a very busy homepage with tons of links, trying to keep everything 2 or 3 clicks away at most. Even though I found the design to be ugly ugly ugly, I was amazed at how the numbers improved. Previously buried articles quadrupled their readership -- at the expense of nothing else. Everything benefitted from the rise.

  6. Why HOURS? by JCCyC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By know you may have already realized the long delay to receive username/password is why people don't download. What I have to ask you is WHY, pray tell, it takes so damn long? Do people manually check addresses or something? You have to /usr/lib/sendmail something to the person straightaway!

  7. Re-registering by batobin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Might the people be merely requesting a new code to further their 30 day trial? Your software might have precautions against this, but on a Mac I know how easy it is to simply delete a preference file (ircle developers: please pretend you didn't read this).

    You could have already thought of this, but that's just the first thing that popped into my mind. They don't download the software because they already have the software. They just need a new code.

  8. I never get the confirmation by BurritoWarrior · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...since I use Cowboy Neal's email address for all registration forms.

  9. Having to give an e-mail address by techmuse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do not like to give my e-mail address to companies, because I do not want spam. If I have to give my address to download software, I will likely not give it, or will give an incorrect address.

  10. Often it is too complicated by Cryogenes · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Take, for example the Borland downloads of Delphi Personal Edition, Kylix Open Edition etc. They ask you to register and fill out forms before you are allowed to download. Then installation itself is another multi-step process with various registration infos getting sent back and forth - it takes hours to complete.

    I just don't do this anymore. Much easier to get a version with all necessary serial numbers and whatever included from edonkey or usenet.

    Don't require registration. Don't ask intrusive questions. It is not good for your company if the legit evaluation copy is harder to obtain than the warez version.

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  11. Your product is not unique enough by AtomicBomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The simplest reason is the users have found something else in the mean time. It is particularly true if your product is mainstream (eg virus scanner, compression program, image viewer and the like).

    Say, they are looking for jp2 viewer, they will go for shareware first, then evaluation ware. If nothing is found, go for evaluation ware that need registration. As long as they find something okay, they will stop searching. (Of course, if your software is unique, and some customers really need that, then they will wait.... Maybe more common in some sector of the research community. Not so in the commerical world.)

    The better approach is to allow the user to download first. When they want to evaluate more advanced function of the software, pop up a window to lure them to register. If you really want to validate their email address in advance, please use automatic mail reply and ensure the avg time taken in within 5 mins rather than a few hours...

  12. Fake addresses by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why might you stop short of actually downloading the software?

    Why do you think the people gave you their real email address in the first place?

    I'd say most of the non-downloaders simply didn't give you their real email address.

  13. it's the Pointy Haired Boss by bunyip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Often, the Pointy Haired Boss (PHB) has an urgent need for me to evaluate some Left-Handed Swivelhopper, so I sign up for the eval. By the time I'm ready to try it out, the urgent need has changed, I'm chasing Object-Oriented Dooverlackies.

    I've often downloaded large files (>100MB even), then lost interest or found another way to solve my problem. Oops - I think I just admitted that I even change my own priorities! Oh well......

  14. You might have it backwards. by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Where I work, we routinely send out lots and lots demonstration software. A lot of them turn into sales.

    However, our method is the reverse of yours. You can download all the binaries whenever you want, any time, all the time. Transfer interrputed? Go ahead, download again. Downloaded it, but lost it? Download again. Got corrupted? Download again. These are the real things, not crippled evaluation versions.

    What we do is liberally give out demo licenses via email, that expires after a short time. Provided you're not an asshole, you can renew your demo licenses.

    Of course, the downside to this it could be cracked and warez'd out. I don't know the company stance and don't pretend to speak for it, but I don't care. Piracy is part of doing business in software, and the less you piss off your customers, IMHO, the better. So, while I don't like people pirating our software, I'm still against the recent stupid-ass (c'mon, you all know the words!) laws that seem to have festered recently in this area.

    Perhaps this works better, I don't know why. Maybe it's psychological: people download the binary first and then feel they need to try it out to justify the time spent. Or something like that.

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    1. Re:You might have it backwards. by alcmena · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll admit, there is very few pieces of demo-ware that I've bought. Though, there is one piece that I did. AnyJ has a cool way of doing it. You can download as many times as you want. Every one of the features are there to use. If you try to open a project older than 90 days, it reminds you that you should register, but lets you continue anyway. For those reasons, I bought a personal license. And in fact, my past two companines have switched from their IDE's to AnyJ because of the demo's they tried.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is that many other posters out here. Do not require an email address until they buy the software. Do not cripple the program from the start. If you treat your customers like pirates, pirates they will become (see RIAA). If you treat your customers like people you want to please, then some will buy, and some will decide your product isn't worth it. That's the chance you take.

  15. Spam in e-mail or telephone form is EVIL by hendridm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > If you're serious about trying out the software and would seriously consider purchasing it, giving them an e-mail so a representative can contact you for support makes sense.

    No, it doesn't. If I'm looking for a solution, I might try a ton of demos until I find the right one. I don't want to be hounded by all of the ones I discounted as crap.

    It's like shopping at JC Penney or Sears and the salespeople hound you EVERY 3 MINUTES. Thanks, but I already know how to shop and you just turned me off to your store.

    Here's a shocking idea - How about if I need help I'll ask?

  16. Agree with unrestricted download, fast key gen by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot of people seem to be harping about registering to download something.

    When I eval stuff for work (software developer), I don't mind at all registering my work info. It's the same way with conferences - I'm happy to give out my info.

    Why? In general I find that companies trying to sell to other companies are not nearly as bad about spam as Fred's House 'O Cheap DVD's. Besides, it's my work mail account - who cares what happens to that.

    So registration is not the problem as I see it. As others have said, you need to let the users download it whenever they like - look at just about any big chunck of enterprise software, they all have full versions you can DL. Then you need to send out a key, pronto! And make it easy. I've seen plenty of software where I downloaded it by then by the time I got the key I was doing something else and forgot the whole thing, or the key was such a PITA to get I just dropped the whole thing.

    If you are worried about someone downloading it and making copies - fold up shop and shut down the company. You're going to be dissapointed if you expect anything less than everyone on earth having a fully enabled copy hours after the first regitsered user fires it up. Learn to live with that, then charge a fair price and people WILL pay you - remember, it's not even thier own money they are using so they are probably included to give you some! Plus, companies like nothing more than paying for support contracts even when they are not needed.

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  17. What turns me off? by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Number 1: It's been said time and again, but registration. There are a million reasons why a company wants to have this, and I see these posts from people saying that I have no position to compain. I have EVERY reason to compain. I am a potential customer. And I don't want you to know anything about me until I buy your software. That's what I would prefer.

    If I'm made to type in an e-mail address to download, I type in a bogus address. If I need to get a key or anything else from my e-mail, I've just been sent the message that the software company does'nt want my business. This has happened more then once, and I've gone somewhere else. If I like your software, and I give you my or my companies credit card number, you get to know who I am. Not before.

    2. Full featured software. If I bother to download your evaulation, I expect to be able to use it. When I can't save my work, or find that an important feature is turned off, or I have some stupid 10 minut time limit, the software gets deleted.

    3. Installation. I can tell right away how much I'd like or not like a peice of software by installation. Paste icons all over my desktop without asking? You've annoyed me. Put yourself in my startup, even though it's not needed? You're gone. Bundle yourself with spyware? You're gone.

    4. Remind me, clearly, when the evaulation period is getting to the end. 'You have 5 days left in your evaulation period' when I start the program up. I can think of many times when I've found a peice of software I like, forget to purchase it, forget to get approval for the purchase. I find another way to get something done, and I'll just forget about it. If I were a more orginized person, I'd keep tabs of those things, but I'm not.

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  18. Re:Why we ask you to fill out a form by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, there are many who enter garbage in all the fields. And yes, there are those who use the obvious throw-away email addresses. But we assume them to be not very serious prospective customers.

    I can personally attest to over a dozen peices of software I've purchased after entering a bogus e-mail address.

    I don't know what software you sell, but if I was shopping for an application you sell, and your marketing people wanted to know this 'golden' information why I went with a competitor, it's because you wanted to make me jump through hoops I did'nt want to jump through just to see if your stuff was any good.

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  19. Re:Why we ask you to fill out a form by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yes, there are many who enter garbage in all the fields. And yes, there are those who use the obvious throw-away email addresses. But we assume them to be not very serious prospective customers. Conversely, there are those who enter very accurate information, and we assume them to be much better sales prospects.
    I don't know you. I don't trust you. The fact that I will not give you my contact details has no bearing on the likelihood that I will buy your software. The fact that you expect me to give you that information does.
    In the end, I acquiesced, reasoning that they are getting something for free, so they should be willing to give up something.
    That attitude is why you will never sell me your software. I'm not getting something for free - I'm giving you the opportunity to sell me your software. Why should I give you valuable information up front as well? You seem to have forgotten who is serving who here.
    But being tuned in to peoples' concerns about spam, I thought it was absolutely essential that we be very honest about how their email address would be used.
    Since I don't know or trust you why would anything you say re how you'll use my personal information have any weight with me? Especially when I can avoid the whole problem by not giving you that info in the first place?
  20. I'm guilty of this by HydroCarbon10 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whenever I go to the point of registering as if I were planning on buying or trying a piece of software and yet I don't actually carry through it means that the vendor didn't have all the information I needed available on the website. Quite often I'll register with a fake email address to check and see what the pricing schemes look like, what it will cost to ship a product, or just to see if I can glean any extra information from the website after registering.

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