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SuSE 8.0 Now Shipping
MobyTurbo writes "Well, it's technically a day late, but SuSE Linux 8.0 is now shipping. The increase from 7.3 to 8.0 is due to the inclusion of KDE 3.0, a SuSE-modified kernel version 2.4.18 (with Andre's VM), an improved firewall, among other packages that have been upgraded or added. (Including a couple of new games. :-) )"
I'm still very impressed with the automaticity of the installation of my 7.3. Almost everything worked out of the box, without one glitch. I'm certain I'll be the first to buy me the 8.0 box when it's in de shops here in Europe.
I run SuSE 7.3 SPARC at the moment and its really good...is the new 8.0 release for i386 only? or do they have a sparc port on the way? i hope they dont kill it off like Red Hat did, they have done a really good job with 7.3 :-)
chris
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They announced it yesterday - it includes StarOffice 6.0 for ProSuite & PowerPack Editions. The announce is here.
Does SuSE 8.0 include StarOffice 6.0 as well?
It's amazing how fast the numbers go up in distributions compared to that of the packages within...
;)
Maybe companies should be forced to number their distros based on the average version number of the packages within; that'd cause an interesting non-linear numbering scheme.
jh
jh
Any affiliation with MS? Just wondering, cause I saw this at the bottom:
Lycoris and Desktop/LX are Trademarks of Redmond Linux Corp. © 2001, 2002 Lycoris All Rights Reserved
Like Red Hat, SuSE releases their own patched version of the Linux kernel which have always been extremely fast and reliable (in my experience) and their installation is easy. The other nice thing is the setup tool, Yast2, it's the best integrated setup/control center tool I've seen yet.
The nice thing about SuSE is that everything just works. SuSE offers upgrades to KDE and GNOME that can be downloaded and installed automatically with Yast Online Update on the same day that KDE and GNOME annouce their new releases. They are definitely on top of things. Also, Yast can be used to configure just about every aspect of the system, no need whatsoever to edit config files.
Another nice thing about SuSE is that it's Oracle certified. SuSE offers a nice rpm that sets the system up for installing and running Oracle, making installation as simple as on Windows (at least for 9i).
I've tried Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE and debian and I am happiest by far with SuSE. It has easier config tools than Mandrake, the speed and reliability of Red Hat, and the advantage that it is commercially supported by many companies, meaning that if a product claims it will run on linux, it WILL run on SuSE Linux. :-)
I was hoping to wait for RH7.3, but perhaps this is a better option.
My real question is how hard will I have to work to move accross all my configs? There's samba/printers/sendmail/etc/etc. Anyone know of a good way of doing RH->Suse without any pain?
DWR is Ajax for Java
Amen - I want to develop the software I get paid for or I want to play with, and I want to have my servers working rock solid without devoting myself 24/7 to them. SuSE offers a very solid base, incredibly logically laid out system, very stable releases (I'm even trusting the x,0 release here), and not only fast security updates, but software version updates for quite a bit of software, even for releases several minor version old.
It allows me to get my work done, and provides a nice CLI, GUI and "install and ignore" server experience. Plus, if you're doing enterprise work, check out their more powerful packages (the ones that start at $1000 and move on up). They provide the packages for IBM's enterprise applications, not to mention the Linux for IBM's big iron. Simply having a team that can provide the necessary QA and support to big customers makes me feel confidant as a minor customer of theirs.
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Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
Thing is, I could never get these parameters set exactly right. It was always tempting to bypass this procedure and configure the system the old-fashioned way.
So here's my question: does SuSE still do things this way? And if so, do people really use these parameters, or do they just blow it off and edit the scripts?
The most interesting thing is that they broke up /etc/rc.config. AFAIR the comment in the file it should resemble the Red Hat way now...
chess
Legally speaking, as long as no licenses are violated, SuSE can do whatever it wants. Technically speaking, I do think that SuSE should at least make YaST's source code available; after all, there may be some excellent ideas there that we can all profit from. Nonetheless, I don't think we should count it as a strike against them that YaST is closed-source.
I agree with "use the best tool for the job, preferring open-source and/or free software when possible," so if SuSE happens to be the best tool, I will use it. If not, I won't.
I use it on all my servers, you're probably right, Debian is the better tweakable linux.
SuSE is really good for those of us that are starting because it comes with a NICELY documented book(s) explaining a lot of the basics and the medium difficulty stuff.
They also usually have a tech in their IRC room who will answer questions for you.
In the end I really like SuSE. It's done everything I've required and more. I usually use it as a server without a graphical front end, but even on my two workstations with the graphics, it installed nicely and didn't require me to know more than I need to know to use the systems. And one of them was a laptop.
Two thumbs up!
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin