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Cat Meows Have Evolved Because of Humans

GuyMannDude writes: "ABCNews.com has a story on research being done at Cornell University's Psychology of Voice and Sound Laboratory on cat meows. The scientists believe that over generations, cats have learned how to meow in different ways specifically in order to hook into human perception tendencies and get what they want."

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  1. fascinating by tps12 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I have to say that I don't think any of us would have predicted this. I am completely astou--

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  2. The difference between cats and dogs by Ivan+the+Terrible · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dogs think, "You feed me. You must be god."
    Cats think, "You feed me. I must be god."

  3. Cats = Aliens? by airship · · Score: 5, Funny

    We feed and take care of cats despite the fact that they do absolutely nothing for us. Do they have some kind of psychic mind control over us?
    It is believed by many that Egyptian culture was delivered to humanity by a race of alien beings. At just about the same time, Egyptians began worshipping cats. Coincidince?
    Even though they are supposedly mammals, cats have those weird slitty eyes. No other mammal has eyes like that. Are they really of this earth?
    The Discovery Channel should do one of their pseudo-science specials on this subject. I'm sure it has just as much credence as any of the other goofball theories they've broadcast 'documentaries' on.

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  4. evolution or learning? by oyenstikker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are they basing this on survival of the fittest? Cats that don't meow well die? I don't think so. Cats learn what sounds get a response, and use them. Kittens learn from their parents, who learned from their parents. . . This is learned behaviour, not evolution.

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    1. Re:evolution or learning? by sydb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Alternatively, it might be that humans have bred cats to meow, subconsciously favouring the more 'appealing' animals when pairing mates.

      The domestic cat is quite far removed from anything natural.

      You don't need to be fit for a 'natural' purpose to survive, providing the environment is suitably artificial.

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  5. Re:interesting article... by nucal · · Score: 3, Funny
    But I don't understand why this story is categorized as "it's funny, laugh."

    Because there's no "it's catty, meow." category.

  6. I had to say it... by leviramsey · · Score: 3, Funny
    "I think cats have evolved to become better at managing and manipulating people." [says the researcher in the article]

    How it is it news that a pussy can manipulate people?

  7. Evolution of a Cat's Meow by Peapod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our society has become so dominated by the evolutionary theories that whenever something changes over time, it doesn't change, but evolves, as if it were a change in the make-up of a cat's genetic code.

    1. Re:Evolution of a Cat's Meow by DietFluffy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Our society has become so dominated by the evolutionary theories that whenever something changes over time, it doesn't change, but evolves, as if it were a change in the make-up of a cat's genetic code.

      That's exactly how it's supposed to happen. All evolution by natural selection as described by neo-darwinism involves a change in a specie's genetic pool.

      If you are trying to debunk evolutionary as only a "theory", something George W. Bush said recently, please note that the scientific definition of "theory" is very different from the layman's definition. An idea has to be able to withstand unrelenting scrutiny in order to earn the title "theory." Evolution through natural selection is an easily observed occurance and can be proven through statistical and mathematical analysis. Neo-Darwinist principles should be renamed "The Law of Evolution through Natural Selection" just as we currently have "The Law of Gravity."

  8. interesting theory, but... by spood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's much more plausible that humans have adjusted their opinion of what an 'urgent' meow and a 'contented' meow are, rather than the cats adjusting to our 'language'. We observe a contented cat and the associated meow and we learn to recognize the difference. Which do you think is more likely? Cats have evolved a language to speak to humans, or humans have learned to recognize cats' language?

    Comparisons to feral cats in zoos, let alone the wild makes no sense. It might make more sense to raise a feral cat in one's house from kittenhood and see if it made the same language adjustments. I very much doubt that the language is herditary.

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  9. Powerful Language by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cat thought of the day -
    A meow might get her attention, but she'll really notice if you crap on her sweater.

  10. me too by Polo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny, I tend to meow differently to get the attention of cats.

    (weird, but true)

  11. My cat by gnovos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My cat had a way of mimicing my speech in a limited scope. If I would walk into a room and say "hi" she would respond with a very short "mmw" but if I sait "hello" (two sylables) she would respond with two of her own "mmw meow". I wonder if other cat owners had seen similar things...

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    1. Re:My cat by doooras · · Score: 3, Funny

      my mother was sure her dog would say "i love you" and the cat will say "what?" if you ask it a question. surprisingly, she doesn't have a history of crack addiction.

  12. And in other News of the Obvious... by Nyarly · · Score: 3, Informative
    Who hasn't noticed that housecats sound like the cries of babies? (There's some thought that this is part of the "stealing babies' breath" myth.) There's been a lot of research that suggests that humans are hardwired not to be able to ignore the cry of a baby, and it seems resonable that housecats might have hooked onto that long ago.

    I've noticed several times how a cat will adapt to be more and more attention grabbing as time goes on, and how her housemates will learn particularly effective behavior quite rapidly.

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  13. Meows by FattMattP · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always thought they were saying "Me Now." :-)

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  14. Not much contradiction, really by twilight30 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not sure where I heard this tidbit exactly; I think it was a video documentary about cats. Anyway, it seems that cats by themselves do not meow to each other or to animals other than humans -- it's something that they only do with us.

    It's not only a parental thing handed down the line either -- we have one cat that was separated at birth from her mother, and she is very good at indicating when she wants affection, a trip outside, or food. As to her emotional needs beyond that short list, I'm afraid I'm not evolved enough to pick those up. The other cat, being a glutton, only asks for food whenever possible, though she does trill a lot.

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    1. Re:Not much contradiction, really by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've seen footage of big cats in the wild who grumble to themselves when something goes wrong. Didn't catch that springbok? Mwor! Walked into a spider web? Mewal! Stepped on something sharp? Reiow!

  15. manipulating people by kilroy_hau · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I think cats have evolved to become better at managing and manipulating people."

    That's why catbert is the human resources director, not dogbert

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  16. Pavlov's Cat by Skjellifetti · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Analog SciFi once printed a poem called Pavlov's Cat. I wish I could remember it as a poem, but the gist is that while Pavlov is training his dogs, Pavlov's cat repeatedly rubs up against his leg, meows, and walks to the door until Pavlov finally lets him outside. By the end of the poem, Pavlov's dogs are salivating at the sound of a bell and Pavlov is automatically letting his cat out when it meows.

    Dogs have masters. Cats have staff.

    1. Re:Pavlov's Cat by acrollet · · Score: 3, Funny

      Couldn't find the poem, but this was funny:

      Everyone has heard of Pavlov's Dogs and many have heard of Schroedingers Cat. But what of Shroedinger's Dog and Pavlov's Cats?

      Let's not concern ourselves with Shroedinger's Dog, a creature so stupid it has difficulty being in one state at a time let alone in two states simultaneously. When put into a box with a decaying vial of poison which might or might not release the poison, Shroedinger's Dog chewed the vial thus ensuring it ended up in a dead state every time.

      Pavlov's Cats is a far more interesting a subtle experiment into feline-human behaviour. Pavlov was a Welsh behavioural scientist who conducted experiments into ringing bells and cats eating food. Went something along the lines of:

      Day 1: Rang bell. Cat buggered off.

      Day 2: Rang bell. Cat buggered off.

      Day 3: Rang bell, but cat put paw on bell so it only made a 'thunk' sound.

      Day 4: Rang bell, cat said he'd eaten earlier.

      Day 5: Tried to ring bell, but cat had taken batteries out of bell.

      Day 6: Cat rang bell. I ate food.

      (found at http://members.aol.com/moggycat/pavlov-cat.html )