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Linux Beta Kernel 2.5.16 Out
dipfan writes "The latest beta version of the Linux kernel 2.5.16 is out, with some comments by Linus here, who was kept 'personally somewhat busy' by 'the interesting Intel SMP-P4 TLB corruption bug, which ends up being due to some very funky asynchronous speculative TLB fill logic'. Woo hoo. Mirrors, etc." We haven't been keeping up with the 2.5.x series, but a slow Sunday is a good excuse to catch up.
Does Linux support blast processing yet??
I prefer Linux myself, but a major and highly respected new *NIX distro release beats a beta kernel release and day of my 8-day week.
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Anyone wanna start betting when the dev kernel will surpass the stable kernel? 3 versions to go....
It's really not that fantastic. 2.5 will probably go pretty high. The 2.3 kernel went to 2.3.51 before it jumped to 2.3.99 (look here).
It will be interesting how much work goes into 2.5 before 2.6.0 is released. Then we'll be able to start comparing what's new to 2.4.x. It is interesting that we're at 2.4.19 when the 2.2. kernel is at 2.2.20, IMHO.
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Ok, I may be clueless here, but given this comment from Linus:
The TLB invalidate rewrite will likely have broken all other architectures (at least performance-wise, if not in any other way), so architecture maintainers look out!
Since it sounds like this was a P4 specific issue, and a P4 specific fix, shouldn't it have been #ifdef'ed for the architecture?
-Robert
MOD THIS DOWN!!! MOD THIS DOWN!!!
He's not singing the praises of linux. He's not ooh and ahhing at the latest buggy release. Mod this guy down; he's obviously a subversive bsd user who lives in the real world.
Anyone know why the development kernel and the stable kernel didnt adopt the VM patches which andrea did to his own VM ?
They remarkably enhance the system performance, what is holding it up ?
kept 'personally somewhat busy' by 'the interesting Intel SMP-P4 TLB corruption bug, which ends up being due to some very funky asynchronous speculative TLB fill logic'.
That is what they all say.
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Well, for one thing, there are a lot of IDE updates and fixes going in for 2.4.19, which is why there are so many 19-pre* releases...
And as another poster has said, a backport of the *working* NTFS-NG driver!
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Actually, you are flamebaiting a bit. One main difference between linux and windows is that the development and testing for linux is done in the open. So you can install a development or a testing kernel if you would like. Linux just gives you more options. If a kernel is working fine for what you are doing, then don't upgrade unless there is a security issue.
Please tell me how it is any worse than using Windows?
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The 2.5 kernel is a major rework. IIRC, they're making everything possible modules, and you'll need to make an initial ramdisk with your ide/scsi/network/fs drivers in order to boot. Any idea how stable 2.5 is now? It sounds pretty cool. I've dabbled in kernel programming and am willing to put up with 1 week uptimes as long as I'm running ext3 or XFS. I tried L4-linux, but 8-hour uptimes just hurt. Yes, I'm also playing with Debian HURD. There's lots of really cool stuff going on nowadays in the OS world.
Any idea if there are any plans to merge the international patch (crypto stuff) into 2.4 or 2.5? Encrypted loop devices and encrypted swap really should be part of the main kernel. After all, the 2.4 kernel is currently being maintained by a minor in South America, so the 2.4 kernel is pretty safe from the US govt/US courts at the moment. Hmm... DeCSS in kernel-space anyone?
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Sweet.
On a slightly different note, is there a place that has (perhaps weekly) status updates on the Sparc64 kernel and related goodies?
The UltraLinux site hasn't been updated for a while. I'm thinking of putting Linux on my Ultra 30 for testing, and I'd like to run one of the newer kernels (2.5.x).
I'm looking at Gentoo as well, and I'm hoping that their Sparc64 ISO will be released soon.
Does anyone have more details on what asynchronous logic is in the P4 and why it was funky?
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Of course, people who like to take risks or who want to help test, are welcome to use the -pre patches. Right now it is up to -pre8. If you want to live on the very cutting edge, then you can download patches from this page. The patches here are updated every hour for the Marcelo's bk tree.
I believe that besides the IDE changes, there are several VM tweaks.
At best, I would call the development series "alpha". Beta implies that the kernel is ready for general testing prior to release, and there are few known showstopper bugs.
When 2.5 goes -rc, or Linus starts making prereleaserr noises, then go ahead and call it "beta". Until then, it's the type of thing you inflict on a computer you don't mind messing around with.
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I'd like to know "When will Windoze be done?"
This kernel looks very stable so far. The only trouble I got is with the keyboard. Sometimes, it blo
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Does Linux support blast processing yet??
"Blast Processing" is the name of the sprite engine that Sega used in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 for Sega Genesis. Here are some Genesis emulators for UNIX and Linux systems. DGen is pretty good.
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Some people have already started: http://kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html. Some of these will probably get backported into 2.4.
Some of the big changes/additions are: block IO, JFS (IBM file system), alsa, support for 64bit amd, preemption, a new NTFS driver and ide clean ups.
Jesus - can't people around here take a joke. Note the title of my post: Mode = Astroturfing.
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I have a for host in *.mycompany.com script that will automagically update all our production machines at once. Who needs up2date, Red Carpet, and all that crap? Ha-ha.
It's DEVELOPMENT kernel you Micro$oft flunky...
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I'll give you one thing -- my laptop has the nvidia chipset. I need 2.4.18-4 or higher -- RedHat 7.3 ships with 2.4.18-3 -- to get something better than the generic video drivers working.
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Personally though, I can't wait until 2.6... I know someone who's working on some of the new graphics stuff in his spare time (the new graphics layer is code named "Ruby"), and there will be some sweet stuff. The DRI, framebuffer, Video4Linux, etc. systems will all be made into one unified kernel interface, which will be user friendly and capable enough to (almost) program graphics applications in bash! Imagine (device names are changed to protect the innocent
Not to mention we'll finally be able to ditch X on the desktop for the framebuffer without losing OpenGL support, and let X do what it was meant to do: thin clients and network terminals.
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Also check out the Open Source Development Lab's Scalable Test Platform. You can use STP to run your kernel patches and test code that you upload to OSDL's big iron hardware, or you can download the STP source code so you can use it as a test harness on your own machine.
(I should add the STP to my article but haven't gotten around to doing so yet).
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When we're going to see XFS in the mainstream kernel?
Actually, there were two jokes, of which you only got the first one.
who was kept 'personally somewhat busy' by 'the interesting Intel SMP-P4 TLB corruption bug'
known to the rest of us as 'Episode II: Attack of the Clones'
http://www.kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html
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Marcelo thinks that the new IDE-stuff needs alot of testing before it can be released. That is why we are having a long delay in the 2.4.x series. If you want more up-to-date 2.4.x kernel. use the -ac tree
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If you can install generic and wait for an up2date, RH is patching 7.3 with a 2.4.18-4 Kernel. Note that you must force Kernel updates.
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