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Eminem #2 on Gracenote... Before Release
asavage writes "According to this article on news.com
last week, Eminem's "The Eminem Show," which was yet to be released, cracked the chart at No. 2. This is the first time an unreleased CD has been number 2 on this list of CD's played in computers." I've pre-ordered my copy
and am looking forward to hearing it. But its pretty amazing that Gracenote
registers a pirated CD #2 without the benefit of it being for sale yet.
Thank god they shut down napster and stopped piracy.
Yahoo! is reporting that Gracenote (previously CDDB, an open source project) is planning to sell aggregate usage data to advertisers and such like. Makes me glad I use a freedb-based CD player (CD Max, for the curious).
Complexity is Easy. Simplicity is Hard.
As long as you make an Image or a 1:1 copy it will be detected as the same disk.. Its manly determined from track lengths and offsets.
EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
"Thus, "The Eminem Show," originally slated for a June 4 release, hit stores Sunday -- an unusual step, as albums are typically released on Tuesdays. That move came after it was earlier announced that the release date would be pushed up to today -- roughly two weeks after the album's unsanctioned Internet debut."
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I was in the mall to pick up some old skool music (Nerf Herder rules!!!), and I saw it on the shelves. I also saw the note that it won't be released until June, but whatever dude.
I bought a copy at the Fye Music in Holyoke, MA on the evening of the 24th. When I asked why it was released early, the girl at the counter mumbled something about the Harry Potter DVD and low sales, and that they received a call from the main office to start putting the new Eminem CD's on the shelves.
I also saw them available in a Fye's in Woodbridge, NJ the next day.
For some reason, it is only $11.99, compared to the usual ripoff at that store.
Thank god they shut down napster and stopped piracy.
The CD-Rs were most likely burned from mp3s downloaded from P2P networks. Besides, 10s of thousands of CDs distributed mostly in urban U.S. cities is hardly comparable to the millions that were downloaded across the globe on napster.
Besides, Taco, you almost sound like you condone music piracy. Aren't you the one who said "I wish people wouldn't steal"?
I just checked on gracenote's site.
"The Eminem show" is now on top, number 1, the most-played this week.
The original release date was June 4th, but due to 'rampant piracy' the release was pushed up a week. It was officially released today.
MTV News Article
Andrew
Here's an interesting article I found at www.nme.com...
Link (http://www.nme.com/news/101808.htm)
EMINEM'S PIRATE WAR!
EMINEM is threatening to "beat the shit" out of fans who have illegally uploaded his music onto the Internet.
Despite his new album, 'The Eminem Show', being one of the most closely guarded pre-release projects in history, it is now widely available to buy and download illegally weeks ahead of release.
Despite strict security measures, all 20 tracks from 'The Eminem Show' are available on the Internet, almost a month ahead of the album's June 3 release - meaning his label Interscope could lose millions.
The rapper said bluntly: "I think that shit is fucking bullshit. Whoever put my shit on the Internet, I want to meet that motherf***er and beat the shit out of him, because I picture this scrawny little dickhead going 'I got Eminem's new CD! I got Eminem's new CD! I'm going to put it on the Internet.' I think that anybody who tries to make excuses for that shit is a fucking bitch."
Internet downloading of music has concerned labels and artists, but there is an even greater fear about bootlegging - selling copies of the downloaded music to fans who can't wait for the real thing or can't afford it. Copies of 'The Eminem Show'' were being sold openly in New York last week for $5.
As a result of the leak, the album will now be released on Monday (May 27). For more on this story, see this week's NME, which is out in London now and nationwide tomorrow (May 22).
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Ouch. Eminen should really take some Prozac or Ritalin before press conferences...he might get better PR...
This was officially released in the UK, and probably sizable chunks of the world, on Monday 27th May.
:-)
This ain't piracy, it's the world
The reason Gracenote (former CDDB) gets bad press around here.. internet history lesson:
..whatever you want to call it, the communities good will. Everybody typed in their CD titles, building up the free and open database, for the benefit of everybody, into CDDB. The database reached critical mass. MP3 rippers, CD players, winamp, everyone else incorporates it into their music programs to auto-recognize an inserted CD.
Gracenote effectively used, abused, lied to, stole, infringed,
All is good. The people are happy.
Then CDDB becomes self aware. Of the value of what they have. First they get cocky. 'If you want to use CDDB, you must display our graphics and logo in your program.' Maybe justified, they're paying for all the bandwidth after all. Wankery though.
Developers start to grumble.
CDDB sells out. The database is closed. Automated(bot)-retrieval is blocked. All your CD info are belong to us. Thanks for sending us all the data!
"The Intellectual Property IS OURS NOW, developers, PAY"
Start dicking people around. Gracenote is born.
Business model: extort developers already hooked into using the service, and sell the query stats. (welcome to phase 2.1: kiss up to tomorrow's customers [ie RIAA])
back to the history lesson though..
Developers pissed off. Volunteers are MAD.
So what do they do about it, aside from moan on slashdot? They take the last known Free mirror of the database, and freedb.org is born! And they take the opportunity to do things a bit better the second time. Works as a drop in replacement to CDDB. The more flexible (read: open source) players dump CDDB like an annoying date, some of the more 'market aware' stick with CDDB for 'interface stability' reasons, but all(?) add the capability for the user to use FreeDB.org instead.
FreeDB.org takes a little time to catch up, but with the mass defection of those in-the-know, it does just fine, thank you, in no time.
It stands today as a testament to those brave coders, and one of the cooler projects on the net.
=> Just search for 'CDDB' or 'Gracenote' in the slashdot search box for the whole ugly history.
I'll let the results of that search speak for itself...
It started out as a wonderful thing, turned to shit. Greed'll kill us all if we let it..
RMS was right. Again. (that's a hint)
long live freedb.org.
[or something very close to this actually transpired..]