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Slashback: Film, Solaris, Contention

Slashback with a load of updates for you tonight on modchips for Xbox, Nigerian spam-scams, missing Mozilla hackers, Guillaume Laurent on Murray on Guillaume Laurent, and more. Read on for the details.

Sun giveth and taketh away. axehind writes: "This ZDNet article tells us StarOffice will no longer be free. The decision completes the transition of the StarOffice suite back to being a paid product, as it was when Sun bought the software along with its maker, Germany's Star Division, in 1999. Sun says it will stop free downloads of StarOffice 5.2 at midnight on Wednesday night."

On the other hand, The Pi-Guy writes: "It has been confirmed by Sun that Solaris 9 will be on Intel platforms - you can get it for free on DVD here. Quite surprising considering that a few months ago they were saying 'No S9 at all on x86!'"

Update: 05/29 03:03 GMT by T : As several readers have noticed, the page no longer indicates Solaris 9 once you've chosen x86 as your platform of choice -- looks like a case of mistaken identity.

Strong opinions tend to draw answers. Guillaume Laurent writes "Given that Murray mentions me in his interview, and that I disagree with most of what he says, I felt the need to reply. Enjoy."

Six seems a tad low. supafly613 writes: "Six people were arrested in South Africa over the weekend on suspicion of being involved in the infamous 'Nigerian' e-mail and letter fraud. Four of those detained were Nigerian, one was Cameroonian and the sixth was South African. Police in South Africa believe that the six are part of an international fraud and drug-dealing cartel, sending out thousands of e-mail and letters in an attempt to defraud."

Lost in cyberspace ... Mindphunk writes "Six hackers remain to be found so that Mozilla can be relicensed under the LGPL and GPL as well as the MPL original license. This is really important if Mozilla is going to interoperate readily with all kinds of free software. Perhaps the power of Slashdot can find them in time for the 1.0 release?? The missing hackers are:

  • David Nebinger
  • 'Uncle George'
  • Sanjay Gupta
  • Makoto Kato
  • Thierry LeBouiland
  • Jiwei Wang"

This is a followup to our earlier mention of the missing hackers.

Still waiting for NetBSD :) llordsmiff writes: "According to this, the world's first Xtender Xbox modchip preorders were shipped today (24 May). There are installation pictures also. "It plays back all import and backups on all worldwide sold Xbox machines." It's also supposed to play any DVD, regardless of region."

Wonder if this will be 'content protected.' neema writes: "Just a bit of an update to an older post, but Revolution OS will apparently be released on DVD (region free) in September for 20 dollars. Trailer and first 8 minutes can be found here. I, for one, welcome the chance to see it."

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  1. Solaris 9 really for intel? by pythas · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hmm. I looked at the sun link provided above, and it gives you 2 choices:

    Solaris 9 for Sparc
    Solaris 8 for Intel

    Are you sure they're releasing 9 for intel?

  2. Re:LGPL and GPL by MisterBlister · · Score: 4, Informative
    By dual licencing under the LGPL and GPL (not to mention MPL) those who develop derivitive works can decide whether to use the LGPL, GPL or MPL for their project.

    So say I create an offshoot of Mozilla called Boozila, I can pick the LGPL license for this project, which means anyone who derives from my work must abide by the LGPL (or they can go use the original Mozilla source minus my changes and use GPL, or MPL..up to them!).

    In essence, it gives developers a bit of a choice over which licenses they want to support while using the codebase...They are free to choose GPL, LGPL or MPL.

  3. Re:Linux vs. Solaris: sink or swim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Umm, Solaris has been running on i386 machines for years. And Linux was ported to the Sparc a while ago too. Head-to-head comparisons have been possible for a very long time. You just don't see many of them publicized on Slashdot for some reason.

  4. Re:Will it be piracy to copy Staroffice after midn by Triskaidekaphobia · · Score: 4, Informative
    The EULA says


    1. License to Use. Sun grants to you a non-exclusive and
    non-transferable license for the internal use only of the
    accompanying software and documentation and any error
    corrections provided by Sun (collectively "Software"). You
    have no right to distribute the Software.


    so the answer is no.

    (This assumes the EULA hasn't changed since the time you didn't read it.
  5. Re:Surprised by Zurk · · Score: 2, Informative

    not only are they nigerians but they have authentic material including stamped and signed letters, P.O's, contracts and other stuff. check out the pictures and read thru the stories here :
    http://www.waronspam.com/cases/ibrahim/ibrahim. htm
    http://thespamletters.com/letter.php?spamID=1 01&so rtBy=da&start=0&search=Nigerian

  6. Solaris, the film. by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Informative

    Coincidentally, the book "Solaris" by Stansislas Lem is being made into a film (for the second time, first time around was by the brilliant, late Andrei Tarkovsky) by Steven Soderbergh. And that's what I thought this slashback was about, at first glance. Oops.

  7. Re:Solaris 9 by fsmunoz · · Score: 2, Informative

    The downside is that is ships with CDE by default, which is an eyesore (it can be changed, provided you have root access). I wonder if Sol 9 is shipping with CDE or Gnome?

    CDE almost certainly. GNOME 2 is not yet ready and they probably need more integration to include it. Anyway, as with Solaris 8, the "Bonus Software" CD pack that comes with the OS (or OE, whatever :) ) includes a CD "Exploring GNOME" that installs an "unsupported evaluation" of GNOME. Pretty slick, installed it at work, ppl are using the Sun boxen much more hapilly now.
    BTW, that Bonus pack also includes the GNU utils, Emacs, even KDE. Also StarOffice (at least Solaris 8 did) and Netscape 6.

    Regards,

    fsmunoz

  8. Umm. by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Solaris has been running on the x86 since before linux existed.

  9. I know it's probably been tried by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Informative

    But has anyone tried to reach Dr. Wang (heh heh) at jiwei@taralnetworks.com?

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  10. Re:For News Stories... by perky · · Score: 3, Informative
    scamorama for lots more amusing advance fee frauds.

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  11. Re:Qt, rosegarden, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Re. 2, Rosegarden is a GUI for typesetting music. It can export to LilyPond, MusiXTeX etc. Lilypond is like LaTeX, just a programming language for writing (very beautiful) music scores.

    Re. 3, try Debian (next version, 3.0/Woody) is due shortly - I'd wait for that). It's vastly easier than any other distribution for installing software.

    apt-get install prog

    will install prog plus all dependencies. Can suck packages down from the net or from CD. Visit www.debian.org for the details.

  12. Re:Surprised by rgmoore · · Score: 3, Informative

    You might be surprised at which schools are not accredited. Accreditation is most useful for schools without great reputations. After all, everyone knows about Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and similarly presigious places. They know that those schools aren't just handing out degrees to anyone with a big enough stack of cash, so who cares what some agency says? Some of those schools, though, might not want to do everything that whatever accrediting group claims is important, so they may give up formal accreditation to maintain their academic independence. In fact, when I got my degree, Caltech was not accredited as an institution for exactly that reason. Individual departments and programs were accredited by appropriate professional groups, but not the school as a whole.

    OTOH, the average man on the street has probably never heard of Backwater State and doesn't know if they have a real program there or not. The only thing they have to go on is what the accrediting agencies say. If they want anyone to take their degrees seriously, they need the accreditation.

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  13. Re:Linux vs. Solaris: sink or swim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    Solaris 7 was released for x86, and i think a version prior to that was also

    Yes, there was. Nine years ago this month (May 1993), Solaris 2.1 for x86 was released. Interestingly, x86 support was apparently dropped after that and didn't reappear until Solaris 2.4.

    The releases of Solaris that have existed are 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.1, 2.6, 7, 8, and (now) 9. Of these, 2.1, 2.4. 2.5, 2.5.1, 2.6, 7, and 8 have been available for Intel. 2.5.1 (and maybe 2.5?) was available for PowerPC as well. And Sun was the very first vendor to announce they had an operating system (that would be Solaris) running on an Itanium simulator. BTW, more Solaris version info can be found by going to google.com, typing in "Solaris FAQ", and hitting the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.

    Also, as long as I'm clearing things up, Sun's statement about Solaris 9 and Intel availability was fairly ambiguous. Essentially, it said that when Solaris 9 was released, there wouldn't be a version for Intel. But Sun releases updates about every quarter, and it wasn't really said AFAIK that one of those wouldn't have Intel support. Probably it won't happen, but I'm just trying to say that "we will make the Intel version a lower priority and release it at our leisure" may be a valid interpretation of Sun's statements.

  14. Xtender will not play back any region DVD by Namarrgon · · Score: 3, Informative
    "It's also supposed to play any DVD, regardless of region."

    Actually, that's incorrect. According to the table here, and similar info elsewhere, it will reset the region code that the DVD dongle writes to your Xbox, but you still require dongles from different regions to play import DVDs. Playback of any region DVDs may require modding the dongle, not just the Xbox itself.

    However, the mod will of course allow you to play import games (great for me - if I move back to Australia, I'd prefer to take my Xbox & games with me, rather than selling the lot & buying it all over again in a new region).

    Even more interesting, it will allow the Xbox to run unsigned code. This opens up the box completely to developers - for example, an ISO has already been released to switch the Xbox between PAL & NTSC (excellent :-) and the Enigmah-X group are rumoured to be working on a DivX player. Add an Ethernet-streaming MP3 player to that & you have a very versatile entertainment appliance. Not to mention that it'll give the Xbox Linux Project a huge boost, and may even make that old MAME port useful :-)

    This could give Xbox sales a significant boost. I'm sure Microsoft would be delighted - if they were actually making money on each sale.

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  15. Re:What is Solaris? by wwwillem · · Score: 2, Informative

    Does this "Solaris" support Beowulf clustering?

    Solaris supports either Sun Cluster for high-availability purposes. Or for HPC, you can use Sun Grid computing. And, compared to Linux, Solaris scales to a much higher amount of CPUs "within the box".

    So to answer your question, no it doesn't do Beowulf, but there are many, many other ways to scale your system.

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  16. Re:Solaris 9 by morbid · · Score: 1, Informative

    CDE? I don't know about you, but on my E4500 I don't run X. I use windowmaker on my Ultra60. I've seen GNOME run OK on an Ultra 5.
    Just to clear up a few points for the uninitiated:
    Solaris 8 (and 9) come with a GNOME CD in the media kit, and they also come with the Companion CD which has many Free and Open Source packages on it, including Afterstep, KDE, WindowMaker, GCC, pine, GIMP etc.

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  17. Re:Solaris 9 by arivanov · · Score: 3, Informative
    Several corrections:

    Solaris has many pluses like scheduler optimised for threading, working POSIX realtime priorities, etc but it also has a slow filesystem that is technologically inferior to anything else out there. It is also fairly buggy and ridden with security holes. The buggy bit is especially valid for x86. Bugs are of all varieties: non-working multicast on half of the network adapters, crashes, memory leaks, you name it. Neither ACPI nor APM are supported either which means that it will not work properly on laptops and many desktop class new machines. The range of supported hardware is also very small compared to what you get working with BSD or Linux. So it depends what you want it for, but you better get a proper server class system with SCSI to run it on.

    Sun (the download section) got slashdotted to hell and gone when they released Soffice 5 for free for the first time.

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  18. Re:LGPL and GPL by Vanders · · Score: 2, Informative

    doesn't the LGPL give the option of redistribution under the GPL?

    No. No more than the GPL gives you the option to redistribute under the LGPL. If someone forked an LGPL project and changed it to the GPL, the original author would not be able to take the changes from the fork and fold them back into their own tree under the LGPL. Which is unfair, to say the least.