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plluke writes "I'm a Teaching Assistant for a course named CS148: Building Intelligent Robots offered by the CS Department at Brown University. Our robots were made/programmed/run on Lego MindStorms (with LegOS). Tres funky results include probabilistic sonar mappers, a bipedal walker, and a bartender. The final exhibition page is here and contains the aforementioned funky results."
In my "Advanced Architechture" course at university, we got to build robots out of mindstorms as well... had to find their way around a maze and other various tasks. Interesting entries. Definately cool and a fun semester.
University - a box of academia nuts.
Bah, I made a bipedal walker out of Robotix when I was 10 years old. Great toy, by the way.
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There's nothing better than a robotic bartender.
One of my buddies in high school 'borrowed' a robotic arm and tried to do this, if only we'd had Lego Mindstorm...
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The classes have gotten much cooler since I graduated in 1990: back then, I thought Authorware Professional was neat. :-)
Garrett '90
From the course intro page:
The only requirement for the project is that it be "extremely cool"
This is the sort of academic requirement I can live with!
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When you spend an entire semester designing legos to pour drinks for you. It's time to get help. Run, don't walk, to your nearest AA meeting.
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I can also envision a robot hitting ALT-F4 when I get those annoying pop-ups.
If only I had the money for these robots then I would have something to do at work other than post!
-Tolerate my intolerance
If the bipedal walking doesn't use knees and ankles, how is it different than a very awkward version of those $2 wind-up walking toys?
I know it's probably hard to kill a .edu, but those detail pictures are about 1.5MB each. /.ing here we come
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I'm not sure, but I think the use of the word "funky" was banned internationally in 1984. Unless you're into crafts with beads and rope, I'd suggest avoiding the word.
Also, prefixing it with "Tres" is seriously fucked.
Does Brown use a different style course numbering than the rest of the world or is this a freshman level CS class? If so, damn. I'm at the wrong university.
Schweeet :-)
I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
Well, I was at Brown College,
a four-hundred level course in C.S.,
but I didn't have the knowledge,
to build a robot that could play chess.
I asked my lab assistant,
how could I get a passing graaaade?
And he gave me the answer, (yes he did)
he told me that I had the curve made.
So I started stackin', and hackin',
and 'loadin through my modem,
and just when, it hit me,
my classmates turned around and shouted,
"Build that funky robot, white boy!
Build that funky robot riiiiight!
Build that funky robot, white boy!
Lay down some legOS and build that funky robot til you die!"
Does noone have a clue about Navigation?
Striking a Theme?
I'm wondering about the quality of this program, folks.
Brak: What's THAT?
Thundercleese: A light switch.. of TOTAL DEVASTATION!
Help for you is here. You'll find the explination for the binary.
Now we just need a robot to stop certain posts...
-Tolerate my intolerance
I think the projects are fantastic. If only one of these people develops a novel, useful application of robotics, we will be a step closer to colonization of space, and obsolescence for those pesky prolitarians.
now then, which of those projets got the best grades, because they all seem pretty damn cool to me. wish there was a class like that in my school.
These robots are all cool but I quickly found my two favorites.
For non-technical reasons, the RoboTender (bartender robot) is by far the coolest. They even make a point of mentioning that this bartender will never cut you off. Pretty cool for a bunch of geeky CS students.
On the technical side, by far the one that impresses me the most is the Bipedal Robot. It starts only understanding 3 basic commands and being fed a random sequence of those commands. Then it uses trial and error in the form of "genetic algorithms" to "learn" how to walk. As an enthusiastic but very amateur programmer, that amazes me.
Anyway, I have to go now. Speaking of bartenders, the wife has been drinking tonight and every time that happens she gets all worked up and "needs" me for something.
(Contrary to popular belief, not everyone on Slashdot is sex starved. That woman's hitting her "prime" and wearing me out!)
heres the context You might find it amusing now.
But I have to say, the "robotender" makes me want to pick up a Mindstorms kit. I wish this is what *my* CS classes had been all about. Kudos to Brown for allowing innovation and experimentation in learning!
mstyne: real name, no gimmicks
The immediate effects of this will be bartending bots pouring drinks for Drunks stumbling to the bar, lead by their sonar mapping, bi-pedal guide bot.
Thank god for University research, or we wouldn't have the advances in drunkology that we do today. hic-up. hic-up
Call me a cynic, but it sounds like this guy is just out to plug his class to help with future enrollment and/or generating press for the CS community at Brown. I mean I go to USC and our intro to robotics class, CSCI 445, had to create Mindstorms that played soccer, yet I didn't go plugging it. Oops guess I did.
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WTF? No wonder Brown is only ranked 40 in engineering. Damn. At my university, we characterize the problem, develop a solution, implement it in hand-built hardware, and troubleshoot it ourselves. The Lego "robotic" solution is such a copout--best suited for middle-school students. If you want to learn robotics, you have to forget the retail crap and learn control systems. However, Legos are pretty good at demonstrating proof-of-concept in mechanical engineering courses.
Oh what the hell am I talking about? I should get my 10yo to audit the class for college credit.
Honestly, I don't see why this is front page material. I programmed Lego Mindstorms in C using legOS in one of my intro to engineering classes. The difference was that instead of the sole requirement of "being really cool," ours actually had to perform a specific task; i.e., autonomously maneuver through a 10x10 ft maze while keeping accurate track of distance and perform various tasks. We were graded on our ability to complete the task, and the amount of time required to complete the task, not solely "was it cool or not," although that was a part of it. Oh yeah, and the code. =)
h -mindstorms.slashdot.org. We'd also have 25 stories a day posted to that section. Nothing new here that is worth seeing.
The big headache was that you had to compensate for the shitty quality control in the Lego components whose tolerances are so absurdly wide that it's just ridiculous. Also, you have to work within the restrictions of a certain number Lego parts, with little to no modification. It's more of a challenge than "see how many legos and custom sensors you can buy/make."
My point is, however, that if everyone who has worked with Mindstorms submitted their stories and pictures to Slashdot, we'd need a dedicated section called http://diaries-of-college-students-who-worked-wit
A TCP/IP enabled RCX? Now that's cool!
No wonder my university never gets anything cool like that done. They're hurry in getting people ready and out the door, so they can get money. In fact, that's their business. People in, people out, lubricate with money.
Ever since I had a chance to play with a set of LEGO Mindstorm around 1 year ago, I was convinced that this is a great tool for CS education. Since then, I have taken up a teaching position at a college in Computer Science and I've been trying to get the department to use Mindstorm to teach first year CS. I believe that this can be done and will be good for the students. Knowing that another university is doing the same thing is very reassuring.
Apparently, this course is either their second/thrid course in CS. What do you guys think of using Mindstorm as a first course in CS?
Can anyone suggest what should I do with my lego that can be controlled over the net?
I already made a controllable webcam and hamster powered an asynchronous processor during my pathetic efforts to avoid writing my thesis.
I was thinking of motorizing the limbs of a stuffed toy we have in the group.
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...that Brown was pushed out of the Ivy league a few years ago.
A fact that is not widely publicized.
"Extremely cool" would be a lego robot that can build other logo robots. Or at least other lego stuff.
What is it with slashdot and lego???
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Amen.
Does anyone know of a robot (built with Mindstorm product or some other) that can flip a book and turn its pages as it photocopies it on a standard home scanner?
This would help me in my book digitization project since the books are too valuable to destroy by cutting off their spines.
Imagine a BEOWULF CLUSTER of LEGO MINDSTORMS!!!!!!
My school is about to offer a similar course using legos, but I am a little dissapointed we aren't soldering microcontrollers onto boards ourselves and interfacing with off the shelf motors and sensors. I haven't used the lego system - is there necessarily more to learn from buying a few PIC micros, steppers and sensors, and assembling the system from something closer to scratch? Is there anywhere close to the same flexibility with legos?
Rebecca and Rachel's Super Dooper Robot Trooper. A "retractable utensil" that they call "Super Trooper"?? How... Freudian... I got yer retractable artistic utensil right here, ladies...
Do people know that there are two words, "then", and "than"? (See WineX headline for this common mistake.) Have people heard the expression "i before e, except after c"? Certainly our programmers of tomorrow don't know it.
It's just embarassing that so many people even make it out of high school with abysmal written communication skills.
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I honestly read the moderation as "(Score:5, Funky)"
The funny thing is, most people play with LEGOs when they are in elementary school. Some people, however, play with them their entire lives. And if you thought they were expensive when you were a little kid, just look at the price for the ones that do your laundary for you!
"shitty quality control in the Lego components whose tolerances are so absurdly wide that it's just ridiculous."
Sir, these are TOYS, not industrial components. For toys designed to ease children into programming and systems designed, they're very good. Absurdly wide tolerances allow you to get results quickly even with crappy code, which is pretty much all the default programming environment allows. And the poor quality itself allows the components to be affordable. It's fine you don't like them, but please don't slam Mindstorms because they aren't suited for serious work. They aren't, but nor are they meant to be.
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I like how "received" is spelled wrong on one or two of those projections in the pictures. College. The letters are 5 inches tall and it didn't bother anyone enough to change it.