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Linux Kernel 2.5.19 Released
The Pi-Guy writes "It's that time again, yep, another kernel update - 2.5.19 is out there, including lots of drivers ported to the new API, and lots of ia64 and PPC32 fixes! Grab it from your local Kernel.org mirror, or if you're feeling mean, you can grab it directly from kernel.org here. The changelog is also at kernel.org."
As it now seems that bluetooth kernel support will make it to 2.6, we will see Linux crawling through new paths to embedded devices. The floodgates are now really open, since this has been a true barrier for many companies forcing them to select something else which is otherwise inferior.
Believe it or not, some people ENJOY hearing about the development kernel releases.
Yes - but the same people can easily visit www.kernel.org every day.
If they did visit kernel.org regularly, they'd have been running the 2.5.19 kernel two days ago.
The more advanced the technology, the more open it is to primitive attack
From the changelog:
<rml@tech9.net>
[PATCH] Robert Love likes leather and chains
> Hmm. That patch does not compile. "p->cpu" does not exist, it's
> "p->thread_info->cpu". Tssk.
Ouch, I am bad. Sorry.
Make the ChangeLog entry something really defamatory.
Robert Love
In the old days, many many people used the 2.3 kernels.
Today, the Linux Counter system statistics show less than 1% of users using the "development" kernel.
Is this a worrying aspect of the Linux community's development cycle?
Are you expecting them to package a DEVELOPMENT kernel? I certainly hope not. Kernel upgrades are supported with urpmi in Cooker, but I'd be curious what is wrong with the 2.4.18 kernel supplied with 8.2. It's been thorughly QA tested, and if you have the upgrade sickness, surely you can learn to compile your own kernel.
Is your browser retarded?
I found this kernel to be very stable and very reliable. This is very promising. I run JDK from blackdown and openoffice 1.0, as well as latest Mozilla, IRC, and got to admit that the system feels very responsive and extremelly feature rich. Hell, I can even use videolan with regionfree plugins. The 2.4 glitches for power saving features I experienced in the past seem to be gone too. Thumbs up for all the people who helped make this happen.
PPA, the girl next door.
-- I feel better now. Thanks for asking.
This is open source, and if you are willing to download the kernel, compile it, and run it, it's up to you really and not to blame on any distro update engine. The steps are fairly easy to do if you follow readmes but keep in mind that is an unstable release and if things go wrong, you are on your own (keep a backup of the stable kernel and make sure lilo/grub points to the old one too.)
On the other hand, if you are not able to come up with this suggestion on your own, it's probably safe to assume that you should stay away from installing it until it moves to something known to work without any problems (after all, unstable code always moves to stable at one time or another.)
Oh boy, I still didn't make time to watch AOTC.
PPA, the girl next door.
-- I feel better now. Thanks for asking.
I agree with the parent comment, except that I would say that the 2.x.x series is a big deal for most of us, since we're going to be running it for awhile, I think. As for the 2.5.x series, I could care less, its a development kernel, which should be considered beta quality at best and completely broken at worst. A new 2.5.x kernel is no news to me. 3.x.x is likely a long way off, so I'd consider it a big deal when the roll the 2.5.x development series over to the 2.6.x stable. Of course everyone will already be celebrating with several pints of Guiness hours before /. ends up posting the 2.6.x announcement. Heh.
What could possibly hurt the security of the American people more than giving our own government the ability to hide its
I was interested to find out how much Linus has contributed to the dev. kernel during last month, I might as well post it here. Based on this he has followed the work multiple times a week during last month. And as I also see a couple of sunpoints, this means....ermm.... nothing.
(29-May-2002)
version: changelog entries
2.5.19 : 7
2.5.18 : 10
2.5.17: 6
2.5.16: 8
2.5.15: 4
2.5.14 : 2
2.5.13: 3
2.5.12: 5
2.5.11: 5
2.5.10: 10
(24-Apr-2002)
One of the big things I know is the integration of the Alsa Sound drivers.
:)
This is quite a big move and I'm glad, the old kernel sound drivers were getting horribly out of date and lacked many features, such as hardware mixing support to name one.
I've been compiling the alsa drivers as modules for the entire 2.4.x series, and am *really* glad I won't have to be doing that any longer.
kbuild will probably go in, but it needs to be split up and added piecemeal... If Keith hasn't already burned out, it will take a few months. If Keith HAS burned out, and nobody steps in to take over, well, the current stuff still works fine. It's just not nearly as nice.
KGI: what sort of example is this?? KGI was nowhere even near complete enough to be added to the kernel. These guys gave up before they were even half-way done. See the ruby project (the great console re-org) for kgi done right. Linus was correct to deny KGI.
A better example would be CML2. It was pretty close to ready. ESR just needed to fix some bugs and make the interface closer to what we've been using for years. Did he? No, he spent all his time adding stuff like autoconfig that nobody would use anyway and flaming up a storm. He completely ignored the grievous xconfig bugs and performance issues. The design of his CML2 language was weird and needlessly complex. Using Python was motivated more by language advocacy rather than design decision. Linus was correct to deny him.
Look at how long it took RL to get the preemtible kernel patch in, or Jaroslav to get ALSA in. Persistence pays off, stability reigns.
If you want kbuild 2.5 now, it's easy to apply the patch...
Does anyone else find it absurd that they host the list of mirrors of their site... on their site?
// select a mirror at random
// I only have hosts with 10+ Mbit/sec here
i nux/", "http:/ " , "http://www.llarian-net.lkams.kernen ux/", "http://www.ihets.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/", "http://www.mi n ux/", "http://www.valinux.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/", "http://www.uw-madisu x/", "http://www.csl-mirror.lkams.kernel.org/pub/lin
u x/", "http://www.ymbnet.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/", "http://www.themoes-us.lku x/", "http://www.teleglobe-us.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linu x// ");
I did, and created a simple PHP script that will redirect you to a random mirror site. (My list of hosts that it uses is everyone with something greater than a T1.) I have very little bandwidth, and am not really supposed to run a webserver on my cable modem anyway, but perhaps someone with a "real" server, with PHP support, could put this up. It's probably not the best-written program, but it works. If someone wants to put it up on their high-bandwidth site and post links, I think it would be a great way to offload traffic from the main server, especially for when "bigger" things are released that cause the main site to hover just below 100 Mbps...
<?php
$hosts = array("http://www.internap.lkams.kernel.org/pub/l
//www.netnitco.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux
l.org/pub/li
idco.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux/", "http://www.ftp-orst-edu.lkams.kernel.org/pub
/l
on.lkams.kernel.org/pub/lin
ams.kernel.org/pub/lin
", "http://www.secsup-org.lkams.kernel.org/pub/linux
$max = count($hosts);
$site = rand(0, $max);
header("Location: $hosts[$site]");
exit;
?>
Note that this code uses VERY little bandwidth, since all it sends is an HTTP redirect.
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I read this as "Linux Kernel 2.4.19 released," and was about to download it and install it on my box as a replacement for 2.4.16. Then I went to get a copy, and couldn't find it... Only then did I realized that it was the 2.5 series, not 2.4
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That's a big change from 2.3's, they would almost always build for me.
While this is the topic... does anyone know if 2.4.19 will ever come out of RC stage?
Liberty.
I think it's fairly reasonable. The nice thing about these being posted to Slashdot is that they allow public discussion of features the latest releases. I learned quite a bit about the pros and cons of devfs by following the Slashdot discussion about it.
There is always going to be something on Slashdot that you aren't interested in. Kernel releases, Star Wars, anime, whatever. There are too many different tastes to please everyone. But you have preferences that allow filtering, and article summaries and headlines to help you decide whether to read an article. I'd rather see more material on Slashdot than less, and decide what's interesting myself.
Finally, redundancy complaints aren't really reasonable. Yes, you can get anime news on an anime site, world events on BBC, linux kernel releases on kernel.org, etc. But because the Net is so large and provides so much information, there's redundant sources for amost all types of information. The point of Slashdot is to provide a nice selection of interesting information to browse at an idle point in your day. Including more information and then letting people filter seems to achive that goal well.
Now, maybe more fine-grained filters w
May we never see th
2.5.20 appears to be out already at kernel.org.