Your girlfriend gives shitty rimjobs. If you weren't so busy with your Male Realdoll, "Charles", maybe you'd have time to give her lessons.
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Re:nutz on ya chin
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eat shit you faggot
Re:nutz on ya chin
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These trolls are like the trailer trash of the tech industry, assuming that most of them have jobs. Why else would they keep spewing out the homophobic sewage the way they do? The shit they put here sounds like something that would come from a foaming-at-the-mouth frat boy. Motherfuckers are probably pissed now that they're in the real world now and can't cooerce some poor "slobbering geek" into doing their work for them.
Re:nutz on ya chin
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you snort a gallon of taco's semen up your nose you cock gnome
Re:nutz on ya chin
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you are the slashdot ass-ripper extraordinaire - choke on a cock!
Re:nutz on ya chin
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you are a fucking hybrid of the goatse guy and ass rimming filthy faggot RMS!!!!!!!!
This AC is clearly possessed by the demon LINUS TORVALDS.
CLIT, repeat after me:
The power of CLIT compells you!
The power of CLIT compells you!
The power of CLIT compells you!
Filthy AC.
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shut the fuck up you admiral of the gay armada, eat shit you proud penis petter!
The Smurfs: Socialist Propaganda
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I like most of my generation grew up watching the Smurfs. I loved them so much that I tuned in every Saturday morning to see what crazy hijinks those lovable little blue creatures would get up to.
It is just now that I have realized what I was really tuning into each and every Saturday morning was in actuality Socialist Propaganda!! Yes that is correct, Papa Smurf and all of his little Smurf minions are not the happy little characters Hanna Barbara would have us believe! The cartoon was really created by the Russian government in order to indoctrinate the youngest members of western society with Socialist beliefs and ideals thus destroying their resistance to the imminent Russian invasion that was to occur when this generation (my generation) grew up.
To prove my point I submit that 1.) They live in a communal village and are discouraged to leave the village without the company of their fellow Smurfs. 2.) Every Smurf has his own specific job and does not deviate from that job. The job even becomes part of their personality and their name (Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, etc.) 3.) If ever a Smurf decides to strike out on his own he is cast into danger in some way of another and it is up to the collective to save him. 4.) Papa Smurf looks an awful lot like Karl Marx plus, he wears all that red.
And let us not forget Smurfette, the lone female Smurf and the embodiment of community property.
In the face of such convincing evidence, it is easy to mark the Smurfs as the Socialists they are, and their nemeses Gargamel (and his maladjusted cat Azrael, a not so subtle attack on ISRAEL) is the personification of Capitalism; out for himself and profit trying to destroy the peaceful commune of Smurfs.
Thankfully our resistance was not destroyed, thanks to the determination of other cartoons such as G.I. Joe and Richie Rich who's goal it was to instill in the children of the western world the morals and values of Capitalism.
Score another one for the CLIT!
-- There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
Stunning News! Natalie Portman's Sex Dolls!
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(from Salon.com)
June 3, 2002 | Young "Star Wars" fans at a loss for what to do with their Padmé Amidala action figure might take a few tips from the woman behind Amidala, Natalie Portman herself.
Portman tells Rolling Stone magazine that, growing up, she had quite a collection of dolls and "I remember them being very sexual. I don't remember ever not having my dolls have sex with each other."
The actress says that, though all she knew how to do was rub her little dolls against one another, she did it constantly.
"All my dolls would get it on together," she says. "Even the Barbies would get it on with other Barbies, and the guys would get it on with each other."
In fact, she says, "My tub toys also had sex."
Glug, glug, glug...
Props CLITS
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just what i want...
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:10:51 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com> To: lwn@lwn.net, editors@linuxtoday.com, malda@slashdot.org, editor@linux.com, Subject: When times get hard
It hit the papers today that VA Linux Systems is going to have to cut 25% of its staff. The press release, as usual, was bland and neutral, emphasizing our healthy revenue growth and our bright prospects -- the kind of corporate-speak everybody expects, and that VA has to generate. It's part of the game.
It's no secret that I'm on VA's Board of Directors. I was at the board meeting where the five-odd people who have the responsibility to advise Larry Augustin told him what he had to do. I was part of that decision, and it was not an easy one.
I'm not speaking for VA now (I basically never try to do that anyway; it's not my job). I'm speaking for myself. It was a weird, wrenching feeling to wander around VA headquarters that afternoon, talking with good friends of mine, knowing in a few cases that they were likely to be canned through no special fault of their own.
What VA is going through now is a sort of ritual bloodletting. The logic of the market is pitiless; when you don't make your numbers, the investors want to be appeased by evidence that you're doing things to raise your profitability. That means making more dollars per employee, and the fastest way to get there, the way investors effectively *demand* that you get there, is by laying off your least dollar-yielding employees.
Otherwise, you get what is politely called "loss of investor confidence". Companies go on life support when that happens -- they can't get capital by selling shares, and that has ripple effects -- it tends to make potential customers bolt. When the customers bolt, the company runs out of money and die. Or it gets acquired, either by a large competitor or (worse) by a slice-n-dice artist who will sell off the assets and shitcan the company.
I went along with the 25% cuts because I understood the possible alternative: no company. And no employees. And no possibility that my friends will ever be able to come back to work for a company they still love and care about.
I think VA's problems are solvable ones. The company got rocked by the popping of the dot.com bubble and the economic downturn we're in. But we know what we have to do to deal with that. In order to avoid making what the SEC calls "forward-looking statements" I'm not going to talk about our strategy or future prospects here; you can go ask VA's corporate-communications folks about that.
But the real reason I'm writing this little broadside is larger than VA; it's about the state of the open-source community, and the things we need to keep in mind when times get hard.
VA, along with Red Hat, is one of the two bellwethers of the open-source business community. Some people are going to freak out and think this setback is a harbinger of doom, that it means our community's game is over. Some people, especially at certain monopolistic closed-source competitors I don't need to name, know better -- that troubles like VA's are pretty common in a market downturn -- but they'll use it as ammunition in a FUD campaign anyhow. Expect to see Steve Ballmer and Jim Alchin quietly gloating at any trade-press reporter they can collar. Brace for it.
And, as it says in large friendly letters on the back of the Hitchhiker's Guide, DON'T PANIC! What we're seeing now is entirely normal. It's the long, dizzy boom time that has just ended, all smiles and champagne and venture capital sloshing around looking for business plans, that has been exceptional. Business cycles happen, there are layoffs and retrenchments all over the economy -- and this, too, shall pass. Things will get better.
There is actually one good thing for us about economic slumps. During them, IT departments and software users in general feel pressure to cut costs. That makes low-cost and free software more attractive. Over the next few months you can expect to see a lot of submarine Linux deployments suddenly surfacing as managers realize that they'll look *good* on their quarterlies if they cut their licensing and service costs, and as the techies working for them get that message and fess up to how many NT boxes they've been replacing by stealth.
So the downturn isn't all bad news for us, by any means. We just needto keep doing what we're doing, the best work we can. And when the economy picks up again, we will have gained by it.
Back at IPO time I wrote an essay called "Surprised By Wealth" in which I tried to deal with how weird it felt to have a theoretical net worth of $41 million. Am I upset that all that "wealth" is gone, at least until the stock bounces back? Well...yes and no. As a member of VA's Board, it's my job to worry about our stock price, on behalf of all of our stockholders. So I care about that.
But personally? Nah. I wasn't in this for the bucks then, and I'm not now. Like most hackers, I do what I do for love and I thank the gods that I can occasionally talk people into paying me money for it. Feels almost like taking advantage of them sometimes, doesn't it?
All the corporate stuff is not, after all, the point -- the point is to change the world, to do better software and give users more choices. It's been a nice party, but some of us did get a little distracted by all that easy money flowing around. If the slump does nothing else but take our eyes off those dollar signs and put them firmly back on the work, maybe it will have been the best thing for us after all.
Over 50% of officer workers under thirty take an overtime leave from time to time to have sex. At that people tell their bosses, they have got an acute inflammation of the heel nerve, that may be lethal if they do not stay at home.
A sociological investigation was held among office workers in Britain. As it turned out, over 50% of respondents easily tell lies when it comes to sex. To put it in other words, if a young man or a woman spend whole night making love, they suddenly realize in the morning that they have to go to work. But at the same time, they are reluctant to go. They would rather continue making love. At this very moment people may even invent that they are seriously ill, very unbelievable diseases may arise at this moment, by the way: gangrene, psoriasis, scurvy, leprosy, anything would do in this case. The poll revealed, 52% of Englishmen under thirty, discover symptoms of such diseases, then call the boss and say they can not come to work. It may seem strange, but after a call to the boss, all symptoms vanish at once.
By the way, about 24% of people under 50 also like to take an overtime leave to have sex. Meanwhile, it sounds more natural for people of this age to ask for an overtime leave for the reason of a hang-over. 56% of this age group use this very argument for having an overtime leave.
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eye reed fark(>/.) 2!! eat my bungh0lio!
My Turkey-Baster Pregnancy With Hemos
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I am a lesbian, deeply involved with a woman of lusty beauty such as most men will never know. Her hair is short and blonde. Her face is bold, with a nice sexy square jaw. She has small breasts, and muscular arms and legs, and even a slight hint of a six-pack. Just the mere thought of her body gets my juices flowing.
She and I have been carpet munching for well over five years now. We love each other deeply, but it seems we've reached an impasse in our relationship. Every night, I lick and I lick and I lick. I finger, finger, finger. I also get the attention back with all sorts of creative ideas from my partner. Everything from dildos, to finger paints (when I am on my period), to meat tenderizer. However, no matter how much sexual gratification we exchange, it seems to be wearing down.
One day, while surfing on Slashdot, I learned about an interesting technique involving a turkey baster. The basic idea is that you fill a turkey baster with The next job was to find a source of sperm. Sperm is not hard to come by. Men ejaculate tens of thousands of gallons of it every day. We figured it'd be easy to acquire a nice hot, steaming load of cum from virtually any man. One day, I stood outside the door of our home, close to the sidewalk, top-less, and perking my lively breasts at any man who passed. Most simply gawked, but some actually tried to touch, but quickly walked away before doing so. Pretty soon, a nice young man came along who took such an interest in my tits that he seemed to forget about all else! Before long, I had him in our house and I was giving him a blowjob before he even knew what happened. As soon as he shot a big load into my mouth, I grabbed the baster and spit the load into it. He looked puzzled, but quickly realized the bizarre situation he was in and left immediately. I paid him no mind.
"Quickly," I shouted to my lover, "fuck me with this thing!" My lover grabbed the baster, thrust it into my eager beaver, and began to thrust like she was a man. I rubbed her clit and fingered her and she tweaked my boobs and fondled my own clit. When we were both about to climax, she squeezed the bulb of the turkey baster, squirting the whole load deep into my uterus. The warm, thick feeling of it drove me wild! When we were done, we rubbed oil all over each other's bodies, praying to the Lord Jesus that we would get pregnant.
Over the next few weeks, signs of something unusual began to show. As it turns out, I was not only pregnant, I had herpes too. Fucking Hemos! My life was turned upside down, but that story is for another day...
Help me
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In the summer time, I go to visit my dad, step mother, brothers and the rest of my family in Michigan. They live in a very small place as well as I do. But now, when I visit, there is a new element that I expect to happen other than seeing family and friend. My cousin and I hear the "not-so-there-people" It really all began about 3 summers ago, we were up late one night and we kept hearing people murmuring. We searched the intire house, looked at all the t.v.'s, radio's, and checked for everyone to be in bed. Nobody lives within a mile of them. And no one was around, it was about 1 am, this nightly visit went on for about a hour and a half. This continued the 2 months I was there.Until finally one night, the night before I left back home, I got very brave, stood up and said," Where are you in a calm soft tone" so I dont wake anyone up other than Amy who was already awake with me. All of a sudden the murmers stop and in a low throaty tone we heard," Outside...come on, come out here." We both froze, but I didn't feel threatend by them. Once again I heard murmers and laughter. So, I went outside, as I walked out there, I froze once again. Out there, about 200ft. I would say, there was a bright red truck with it's headlight on, and about 5 teenagers sat there, pale, staring at me, until one of them smiled and said," Come on." I could see them , but barely, they were all very faint and see through, plus it was dark and ectoplaysm circled them. All of a sudden, my Dad burst through the door, he startled me and I turned to him, and looked back but they were gone. Amy told him what was going on. Later, Michael, my other cousin and former owner of the home had told me that a group of teenagers would come there late at night into his barn and engage in premiscuise events. But one night, they were all sitting in the back of the truck drinking, and a drunk driver swirved and hit the car, killing them all of impact. This made me cry. I am usually not a really emotional person in public, I am still confused what made me cry. The fact that they were killed so young, that they are unsettled, or what.Anyway's, it happend, to this day Amy and I still hear them murmering, and laughing, but it get's fainter every summer. Whenever I hear them, I go out to see if they are there, but they never are. If you can tell me, why Amy and I are the only one's who hear them, and I can no longer see them, please email me, I am
KDE vs Gnome
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The KDE project is famous for its funded and organised trolling of weblogs and message board associated with Linux and Free software/open source. Outrageous newbie impressing claims are made for the software and huge quanities of FUD are spread to destroy competitors. If this sounds familiar, then you are correct, most of these tactics were lifted straight from Microsoft's arsenal of dirty tricks. The Windows look and feel is not the only thing the KDE project has copied! In this short article I will address some of the lies and FUD spread by the KDE trolling teams. It is my hope that this, in some small way, will redress the balance and re-introduce two things almost eradicated by the KDE project: Honesty and facts.
Myth #1 - KDE is more integrated than GNOME
The oft-heard cry of the noisiest KDE advocates. No explanation is given, the reader is expected to simply grok the wholesomeness of KDE and the lack of this mystical quality in GNOME. It is nonsense of course. Neither desktop is particularly "integrated" compared to Windows XP, and certainly not compared any version of the Apple Mac. Whatever "integrated" actually means.
Myth #2 - KDE is easier to use
Again, such nebulous arguments are never explained, and the reader is expected to simply understand the truth of the zealots statement. Both KDE and GNOME have user-interface irritations (all systems do), but "ease of use" is not a simple thing to measure. KDE has never been subjected to detailed user testing, unlike GNOME [gnome.org] [gnome.org], and the claims of user-friendliness are from crazed supporters and not average users. Furthermore, the KDE faithful rarely look beyond simple-minded copying of Windows, and forget that administering a desktop system is just as important as having widgets in the correct place on the toolbar. For example: What about application installation and removal? GNOME has the excellent RedCarpet by Ximian [ximian.com] [ximian.com], which makes the installation, removal and updating of applications trivial. KDE users are expected to fend for themselves with brutal command line driven systems. GNOME also has the excellent Ximian setup tools to handle various tricky cross-platform and potentially risky system configuration operations. KDE offers none of this, only a few small half-assed Linux-only tools, which make no attempt at check-pointing to return to known working configurations.
Myth #3 - KDE is more popular
In what sense? Arguably more people use KDE, but it is a close run thing. Most KDE zealots use the results of online polls as proof of their superior userbase - which is, quite frankly, complete and utter nonsense. Online polls are the joke of the century; it doesn't even require a motivated script kiddie to render then worthless. A single post alerting the faithful on a zealot-ridden site can skew the result so much it makes American presidential elections look fair and well organised. Popularity is also difficult to measure when *both* GNOME and KDE are frequently installed on the same system. The systems can co-exist and even run at the same time, except for certain applications such as panels. Many KDE users actually run GNOME applications for their superior features and stability, not realising that by doing so they are barely running KDE at all.
One of the few solid measures of popularity is commercial use of a desktop, and here, GNOME is far ahead with both Hewlett Packard and Sun committing to using GNOME as the desktop for their Unix systems. This also ties in with the previously mentioned ease of use. Sun's major contribution to the GNOME project is in the areas of user/developer documentation, testing, accessiblity and user-testing. Three of the less glamourous parts of desktop development. The arrival of the GNOME 2.x series will see these contributions reach fruitition and allow GNOME to make a quantum leap ahead of KDE in most of the basic computer/user issues.
Myth #4 - Konqueror is the best Linux browser
Oh for a penny every time this lie is told in any KDE story! Konqueror not a bad piece of software. It's authors deserve praise for the work done on it. However, the sheer amount of orgasmic gushing by the KDE faithful is completely out of proportion to its actual quality. It is quite unreliable and even simple standards compliant pages can crash it quite comprehensively. It is also lax in its support of basic web standards compared to either Mozilla or Opera. It is also extremely slow - much slower than the latest incarnations of the GNOME Nautilus filemanager/browser (a target of much KDE FUD during its development).
Myth #5 - KDE applications are better/more advanced than GNOME ones due to the ease of developing in C++ using the Qt toolkit
See also: Qt/TrollTech. This is the most common wail heard by KDE developers, and yet it is easily disproved by looking at the actual applications for GNOME/GTK and KDE/Qt. KDE applications often have larger version numbers than GNOME ones... an old trick played by commerical software developers. Most KDE apps seem to jump for 1.x releases long before they are ready - KOffice being the best example. None of the components in Koffice are worthy of a 1.0 release, let alone 1.1 or 1.2.
GNOME applications get much more testing in their 0.x stages and despite shorter development phases they mature and reach stable featureful release states much more quickly. Some examples of this are: the superb Evolution (groupware/email), Gnumeric (spreadsheet), Pan (newsreader), The GIMP (image manipulation), Abiword (word processing), RedCarpet, X-Chat (IRC client), XMMS (media player), Galeon (web browser), and for developers: Glade and Anjuta. All of these packages ooze quality, and far outclass their KDE counterparts. It is no understatement to say that GNOME is at least 18 months ahead of KDE in applications, and pulling still further ahead.
It's not only in the area of user applications that GNOME is vastly more advanced. With the forthcoming 2.x release, a number of impressive behind the scenes technologies will finally mature: component technology (bonobo), media (Gstreamer), internationalisation (pango). As a developement platform, GNOME 2.x is, conservatively, 2-3 years ahead of KDE. And what is more, because it is not tied to a lowest common denominator cross-platform bloat-fest like the Qt toolkit, the lead (as with applications) can only increase further.
It is also worth noting that GNOME also develops code for use outside the project (see the XML libraries as one example) - the KDE project rarely (if ever) engages in this kind of work. KDE developers ensure that all software must link with Qt, and hence tie it closely with the Qt toolkit preventing re-use and enhancing the value of TrollTech intellectual property.
Yet despite all this, we are still regularly fed the lie that Qt and C++ makes application and desktop development easier. Judge for yourself.
Myth #6 - KDE is faster and takes less memory than GNOME
KDE is written in C++. While this is not necessarily a problem, it can be when Visual Basic reject programmers (which the KDE project is overrun with) do not know enough to avoid important pitfalls that plague C++ software projects. Stupid use of autoincrementing operators and iteration with C++ objects; and masses of unnecessary allocations and deallocations of memory are two of the most common. KDE suffers badly from both problems.
Perhaps the most cretinous of all problems is blaming the extremely slow startup times of KDE apps on GCC. The GNOME 1.x releases were hardly svelt (2.x fixes many of these issues), but GNOME is a fashion cat-walk superwaif when compared to KDE's 500lb fat-momma cheese-burger scoffing trailer trash. One need only look at the recent fuss over ugly KDE hacks (such as prelinking) used to bandage up the design and coding flaws in the decrepit KDE architecture to see the truth.
Myth #7 - GNOME development is slower. KDE releases faster.
Fundamental misunderstanding. The KDE project releases as one big lump of code due to its use of C++ and the many problems this causes with libraries. The project bumps the version number of the entire KDE system for the smallest modifications. GNOME, on the other hand is componentized and each component releases on a (almost) separate schedule, bumping it's own version number but not the main GNOME version (1.4, for example). Occasional releases of the entire GNOME system happen, and that's when the GNOME version number is bumped (currently it is at 1.4). To see this in action, use RedCarpet and you will regular updates to GNOME components. GNOME development is not slower, it is in fact faster and more advanced. Lamers and newbies, however, fail to understand the advantages of this method and just see KDE 1.1.1 followed a few weeks later by KDE 1.1.2. Wow! KDE roolz.
"That picture"? And in the article, the one of which the caption says "a prototype is seen here"?
Neither of these is accurate. The graphic in the article seems to be a very crude computer generated image of vaporware. Not a picture, not a prototype.
But, oh yeah, I'll grant you "giant iPaq".
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Aw c'mon if you're gonna nitpick at least get it right.. Its not a photograph, but it most certainly is a picture.
OK?
Main Entry: 1picture
Pronunciation: 'pik-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin pictura, from pictus, past participle of pingere to paint
Date: 15th century
1 : a design or representation made by various means (as painting, drawing, or photography)
I would applaud Transmeta and ask if this ran Linux. I would like Transmeta because it is/was loosely associated with Linus. I would make some other stupid comment about how this will change everything and how Intel's chip dominance is over. I would then make it clear to everyone that I am a member of the LBGT community.
But...I'm not...so I have to say - God Bless the C.L.I.T.
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Despite all the recent hype about tablets, I really can't forsee them selling well. I mean, wasn't this tried before? This is especially true when most of the ones I've seen reviewed cost more than a notebook (~$3000). Yeah, you can hang it on a wall, but is the extra grand really worth being able to type on a virtual keyboard with a stylus?
"It's a drug that gives worms to ex-girlfriends!"
Exactly.
Re:Good for Transmeta, but.....
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My tablet PC cost $150 (used) and runs Linux just fine. It may not be very powerful (32mb ram, 2gb hd, 120mhz P1 iirc), but it is a great little machine. Ir's a Fujitsu Stylistic 1200.
I can work on cgi scripting or c programs. I can take notes in class with it. It's great for playing mp3s -- through the speaker or headphones, or miniplug-tape adapter. I can even use it to andmininster my server from the road (pcmcia e-net card).
It even runs Xwindows using a wm designed for PDAs.
Tablets have uses. Mine is cheaper and more powerful than a PDA or an MP3 player, although it it slightly less portable. Plus it gives me an excuse to practice writing pen drivers for Linux.
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Re:Good for Transmeta, but.....
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A killer use for tablets is actually Microsoft's view, eg a remote extension of your desktop that you can take anywhere. What I would love would be an 800X600 tablet with a wireless card and ms terminal services client so I can remote access the desktop on my XP desktop. That way I can run all my normal apps from anywhere in the building, need to look up a number in the corporate directory? Simply launch the quick ldap search in my taskbar, check email, wow just bring up the email client window, etc. A good tablet with minimal cpu and a client to allow it to act like a portable dumb terminal would rock.
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Re:Good for Transmeta, but.....
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On a similar note, I've always wanted one of these things just to act as a handheld Xterminal for my desktop machine. I think for this purpose processors like the crusoe are ideal.
Sounds great!! Can these run Linux?
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A HREF="http://cmdrtaco.sux/?a=1 CmdrTaco is Gay Really!; I am not lying...
Holy shit, not again!
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Why is it everyone seems to think touch screens are the great revolutionary thing. I've used them on palms and casio pocket computers and have found them to be rather annoying at best. I think I'll prefer the laptop. Maybe, I won't look as cool, but at least I won't have to go through the agrivation of using the touch tablets.
Why is it that everyone on slashdot these days don't use question marks when asking questions. I've seen them in books and in magazines and have found them to be rather useful at worst. I think I'll prefer a question mark to a period when asking a question. Maybe, I won't look as dumb, but at least I won't have to go through the agrivation of creating mock paragraphs when at work.
Seriously though, when done well, touch screens can be great. Sorry, but Palms are overpriced electronic organizers, and not designed to be used as 'real' computers. If "casio pocket computers" run PocketPC there are a few programs, like CalliGrapher, that would make it great to use, but since you're identifying it by it's brand name rather than something useful like the platform, I can't be sure.
With good real handwriting recognition (not graffiti, or some other character recognition scheme)- like CalliGrapher (for PocketPC), PenOffice (for Windoze), or the Newton OS 2.x HWR one can enter text quite fast. I can easily enter 45+ WPM on my Newton. I could probably get faster than that on my iPAQ running CalliGrapher 6 if the screen weren't so damn small.
But then again, I wouldn't pay a $1000 premium for something as bulky as this, no doubt without decent software to manage input. I suppose you could install PenOffice on top of Windows XP, which is what this no doubt comes preloaded with. However, there is no real HWR for Linux, which is disapointing.
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Re:Another touch screen?
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Why is it that everyone on slashdot these days don't use question marks when asking questions.
You mean like that?
Re:Another touch screen?
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Way to go fucktard! That was the joke he was making.
Re:Another touch screen?
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That was a very funny joke. I'm laughing. Just so you know, I'm also bending a spoon. Who are you? Fuck, I am so high.
Re:Another touch screen?
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I bet you're way high duuuuude. Drinking daddy's beers and taking mommy's pills. MACH SPASS!
Re:Another touch screen?
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...identifying it by it's brand name...
Why is it that everyone on slashdork that complains about other people's spelling, grammar, and usage of punctuation--or lack thereof--still can't figure out how to use a goddamn apostrophe?
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Re:Another touch screen?
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What is "agrivation"? Notice the question mark.
Re:Another touch screen?
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These are actually quite useful in the Medical industry for electronic medical records. Physicians can maintain a level of interaction with their patients while still adding notes to records. Even though the laptop argument is a compelling one, there is still an added degree of perceived accessibility when the physician is working on a tablet rather than the both-hands-and-a-lap involvement in a laptop.
My.02.
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new pricing structure
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QuantumRiff
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HP anounced today the the tablet device will sell for $50. Replacement screens, which are good for 1000 page views can be purchased for $85, or $100 for 1500 page views.
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Re:new pricing structure
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Anonymous Coward
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My dealer will sell me a whole bunch of tablets for $50. Red ones, blue ones and yes - even green ones.
Re:new pricing structure
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Gary+Bednerack
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You're using decimal both for counting and dollars? Hexadecimal is a clearly better choice. So why are you using decimal? Is that because you lack the intelligence necessary to comprehend number bases? I think that's likely.
Announce, Announce. alway announce!
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Thud457
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Wake me up when I can actually buy a transmeta-based laptop.
It's amusing that the Linus has gotten himself involved with vaporware vendors almost as prolific as the Bitboys!
I thought the i-recession (or is that e-collapse?) taught people that your company had to produce something a little more tangible than press releases and hype.
Coming up next : "Netcraft verifies : Transmeta is dying!"
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With compaq you always need a stupid name. All their consumer products now start with "Evo", and they get awards for it. So much for creativity.
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Re:Evo Stupidity
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Penguinoflight
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Uh, this is a Offtopic post, not a troll, stupid.
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I AM A DIRTY FINNISH FAGGOT
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Anonymous Coward
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good news for Linux...bad for US?
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tps12
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Well, my first impression is I'm sure pretty similar to that of any obedient slashdroid: "Linus ownz, and another great platform for Linux!" I mean, you're talking small 'Net-enabled ePliances, then you're talking embedded systems, and there's one OS that excels in embedded systems, and it ain't WinCE.;)
But then I considered the fact that TransMeta, Linus, and Linux as a whole are generally European companies. SuSE, et al are based in Germany. And so while this product might be great for Linux and the related European economy, I can't help but feel a pang of guilt cheering for such a product, as thousands of my compatriots seek work here at home, in our foundering economy.
Micro$lop may be evil. They may make terrible products. They may even be a monopoly.
But they are an American company. In this post-9/11 world, I think it's time to stop worrying about petty OS wars, and focus on what matters.
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Re:good news for Linux...bad for US?
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Anonymous Coward
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Right on! Isolationism and protectionism always wins!
Re:good news for Linux...bad for US?
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Anonymous Coward
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Isolationism, protectionism and patriotism!
Don't you dare to forget patriotism you pansy-ass faggot rimjobbing cock gnome! People have been shot for less!
Re:good news for Linux...bad for US?
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Anonymous Coward
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Free and Foriegn Trade the new "Axis of Evil"!
Once more for good measure!
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Anonymous Coward
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Re:Linux drivers yet?
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benploni
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The people at www.handhelds.rg have really advanced the state of the art in linux's suitability for tablets. I run Linux + X11 on my Fujistsu pen tablets with great successs. As for handwriting recognition, there is xstroke and xmerlin, among others. xstroke now uses the RENDER extension to get fulllscreen translucent "ink" as youw write over any window.
So, let me get this straight...
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eaeolian
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...we now have Micro$oft to thank not only for bloated operating systems, but also bloated Newtons?
Seriously, isn't this whole idea pretty much useless without handwriting recognition? I've seen nothing to suggest that anyone has that working yet...
Re:So, let me get this straight...
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tswinzig
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Seriously, isn't this whole idea pretty much useless without handwriting recognition?
No, a tablet already has many uses without handwriting recognition. Aside from the normal PC programs that can be used, you have a great form-factor for a nice webpad, a nice ebook.
I've seen nothing to suggest that anyone has that working yet...
Microsoft is well on the way to introducing hand-writing recognition in one of their upcoming OS's, which is one reason they are rolling these out now. I think there is more information about this technology on research.microsoft.com.
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Re:So, let me get this straight...
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The transcriber handwriting recognition on the pcoketpc works great. I use it as a primary means of input.
Handwriting has worked ever since rosetta back on the newtons.
And worst case, you always have grafitti.
Re:So, let me get this straight...
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alexborges
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I am sorry to say that Microsoft HWR stuff is probably the best in the entire world.... I hate
their guts but thats one area where theyll be unbeatable for a while... they really put money on it and now its really paying off....
One of the few areas where MSResearch actually does something else than sticking their thumb up their ass.
Alex
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Re:So, let me get this straight...
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stubear
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Actually Microsoft has already demonstrated these Tablet PCs with handwriting recognition and they are in the process of rolling handwriting recognition into a future release of Windows XP designed for the Tablet PC named, accordingly, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. Not to mention that Microsoft already has some solid handwriting recognition software in their PocketPC devices as well as handwriting recognition in Office XP.
You also asked how useful these devices could be without handwriting recognition? I'm a graphic designer and I am anxiously awaiting the time when I can buy one of these so I can sketch away from my desktop workstation. I want to be able to see what I am drawing, unlike the experience I have with my Wacom Intuous tablet. While the Intuous is great, I feel disconnected from what I'm drawing. I could either buy one of these devices or the new Wacom Cintiq but then I couldn't draw sitting in the park on a nice day like today.
I also read. I would like to be able to take an MS eBook or Adobe Acrobat Reader book along with me on the public transportation here in Boston. I would like to read in bed without having to turn on a light behind me or use one of those crappy book lights. Currently my PocketPC fills in for this purpose but it would be nice to have a larger screen and a laptop computer just doesn't interest me; not with these Tablet PCs around the corner.
Re:So, let me get this straight...
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nvrrobx
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One other good usage of tablet PCs is in the aviation industry. Moving map GPS, combined with weather reports, sectional charts, etc - this is a great replacement for a pilot's kneeboard.
A lot of this is already possible with PDAs, but a tablet PC would give you more processing power combined with a much larger display.
Re:So, let me get this straight...
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Lumpy
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MS has had handwriting recognition cince Windows 3.11.
In fact I have a copy right here.. windows 3.11 for Pen computing.
it works better than the palm's handwriting recognition. and is from 1989.
so microsoft doesnt have to work on it, it's already there.
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Re:So, let me get this straight...
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eaeolian
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I stand corrected on the HWR issue. I wasn't, however, Trolling - I was attempting to make a humorous comment, which seems to have been missed by certain moderators.
Good to see Transmeta getting a deal like this; we can only hope it actually works out. Publicity like this is exactly what the company needs to take back some of the market from Wintel ®.
Despite TMTA's initial claimes to the contrary, 1ghz of crusoe is equivalent to a 300-400mhz pentium. Their only grace is lower power consumption/less heat/longer battery life -- although in the case of a tablet, the processor doesn't drain as much as the lcd.
Re:Wee
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Anonymous Coward
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Hey, They're even bulding supercomputers with Transmeta processors now, like here.
Don't know if it runs linux though.
All the best for Transmeta
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jukal
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I really hope they (and some others) can make the breakthrough, the processor market really needs some fresh new competition. Even though AMD and Intel are "battling", the fight is still, despite of the press - done in Intel's universe. See this article from turn of 2001.
But, when we see real pressure from multiple directions, we might see these companies develop something truly revolutionary, currently they don't have to - they just don't. A market situation in which Intel would have only around 40% slice, would nurture much more speedy development.
LINUX IS TOO UNSTABLE TO RUN ON THESE. USE WINDOWS
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Subject+Line+Troll
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The future of Transmeta!
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Anonymous Coward
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LNUX and TMTA...
The two great tastes that get delisted together!
MOD PARENT UP! EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS.
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Subject+Line+Troll
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Quote from a former president..
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Antonio+Banderas
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"I dream of a world where beautiful women are cloned everyday, and the ugly fat ones are fed to them." -Jimmy Carter
transmeta has created a good nitch. but, as a company you have to shift a lot of processors to make a decent profit. tmta has about $400M in debt, and a market cap of slightly less. those are some difficult straights for a company with less than a $100M in income. I imagine that they will be bought out and the tech will go on to influence others... the best result is likely to be the creation of a heterogeneous computing environment.
On /., everythings a Simpons' reference!
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Thud457
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The only market I can see for this thing is the people who want to take notes in meetings and be able to upload them to their PC. Didn't the CrossPad try this already and fail? The only way people might use this is if they could detach their laptop screen and use it as such. It won't sell on it's own. Bittersweet for Transmeta because they got the business but too bad it's going to be a flop. Not even mentioning that MS is writing the software.
Pictures here?
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tswinzig
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(Remember kids, it's not karma-whoring if you're already at 50.)
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Re:Pictures here?
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Anonymous Coward
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Microsoft has some really cool shit these days. Gone are the days of buggy crashing bloated programs. Open source has no advantages over the lean sleek machine MS has become. GO MICROSOFT!!!
It's good to see Transmeta snaggin some big contracts down. After the couple sony models with the transmeta chip it seemed as if the company was going down hill fast. It would be sad to see a cool company like transmeta go, so let's all go out buy web pads now:)
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oqo
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Anonymous Coward
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www.oqo.com ??
The Evo Tablet PC, which HP plans to target at business users, is comparable in size to a pad of paper and is a fully compatible Windows XP computer.
I hate cars
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Anonymous Coward
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* Audi TT - I hate it because it's probably driven by some bankrupt dotcom yuppie who's life turned into an endless tirade about how he couldn't predict the market crash coming. You dotcom yuppies make me sick! Incidentally, that is the same reason why I hate San Francisco.
* BMW Z3 - I hate it because that faggot James Bond drove it in one of his movies. Further more, it's assembled in Germany, and James Bond is English. I hate the English because they didn't want to rename the Trafalgar square to Erick Idle's Square of Love and Devotion.
* Mercedes - I saw a drunken idiot run over a small puppy in that car once, which instantaneously makes it grouse and unownable.
* Any type of Porsche - Let's face it, it burns up way too much fuel, and I don't like to sit in a seat that's made out of dead animals.
* YUGO - it's not in there, and thank God for that.
Re:I hate cars
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Anonymous Coward
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That's not really true. I talked to you last wednesday and you specifically told me that "you liked cars." I quoted that last bit because those were your actual words. See, I'm not some fucking thief who doesn't give credit where credit is due, and, let's face it, you deserve credit for empowering heterosexual Americans everywhere.
Re:I hate cars
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Anonymous Coward
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No, I said "I like your ass".
Re:I hate cars
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Anonymous Coward
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That's some shit up my ass fucking me like an ass in the ass point you have there. That's still not what you said, though. You asked me what was on FOX that night. I said that I didn't know, but that you could borrow my copy of "The Mummy" if you wanted to.
herpes is not from sperm in a turkey baster
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Anonymous Coward
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but 30 percent of the adult population do have this extremely contagious std with no cure.
Many [especially women] do not know they have it.
Re:herpes is not from sperm in a turkey baster
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Anonymous Coward
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Maybe I'm stupid, but for anything that a tablet would be useful for...what do you need all of that power for?
A little offtopic, but I'd be really happy if someone would come out with a cheap, lcd, even if text only, telnet 'terminal' that could plug right into the network, not even wireless, for $50 DHCP or static addressing, DNS, telnet, nothing else. I'd buy a few of those. Fast power-on would be the key. Many times I want to just check the mail on my main server at home without having to power up the main box. I can use the palm pilot, sure, but the limited display and lack of keyboard are a PITA.
Re:1GHz?
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Anonymous Coward
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Tigerdirect.com was selling those Compaq iPaq IA-1 internet appliances about 6 months ago (maybe they still are) for $99. They would work fine for what you're talking about. LCD display, no hard drive (compact flash or internal flash), USB network adapter support, decent infrared keyboard+mouse combo, etc. Once I get the cabling in my house I will use it in the kitchen as a terminal.
Re:1GHz?
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Anonymous Coward
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Maybe I'm stupid, but for anything that a tablet would be useful for...what do you need all of that power for?
Really good signal processing for voice recognition. 3D medical imaging. Efficient query processing. Honestly, I can't imagine the mindset of some people who have no clue that machines are nowhere near as fast as they really need to be. If you think "1Ghz is enough for anything" then you're just not thinking creatively. And it has nothing to do with "bloat"; there really are a lot of perfectly valid business applications that desperately need far more processing power than is currently available.
If you can produce a 1ghz processor cheaply, why bitch about it being too powerful? You can run advanced handwriting recognition and speech recognition software. You might be able to make games. The stylus could make sniping an even more intuitive activity.
Look at the opportunities, man.
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Stop the brainwash
Transmeta
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Anonymous Coward
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Why is it that every time someone at Transmeta farts, it gets front page at Slashdot?!
You Lunix nonces should all be lined up and SHOT.
I recommend that all *BSD users go out and buy M4-A1 rifles and hollow point ammo. We'll then stroll over to the nearest LUG meeting and dispense some "Security Advice".;) heheheh NICE!
Still way out of most people's reach
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jbarr
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That's the problem with these types of devices--they are still way out of reach of most users pricewise. Granted, the articles don't mention price, but you can be sure that based on similar products available today, it will probably sell for between $1500 and $2500--way too high for the average user.
All I want is a wireless, tablet-sized device that will allow me to surf the web from anywhere in my house, wirelessly connecting to my LAN, and I would like to see it for below $1000. I don't need Windows XP, I won't be playing games or doing video production on this thing! I just want to surf the web!
-- My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
If you want a tiny Transmeta Computer...
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gdyas
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...go for Fujitsu's P-2000 Laptop with a 7-hour high capacity battery, DVDROM, and a wireless LAN card.
IMO, pads do and shall always suck, primarily because of the inherent frailty of an exposed screen. Sure, the screens on notebooks fail all the time too, but at least when not used they're folded shut & semi-protected. In this specific comparison, I see no reason to use some frail theoretical webpad when I can rely on existent notebook technology to carry around a computer so fucking small (10.6"(w) x 7"(d) x 1.59"(h)), smaller than the form design for most webpads, that lets me do anything my desktop does.
And everyone seems to bitch about wanting a "more natural" interface. From an anthropological perspective, there is no "more natural", there's just what you're used to -- the human animal can express ideas in multitudes of ways, and when it come to writing what I'm used to is thinking as I type about 90wpm. Writing with a pen on a notepad anymore feels feels like I've got a 25mph governor on a Ferrari. It's infuriating, and it doesn't get any better when you're dealing with some shit handwriting software - I haven't seen a single handwriting recognition program that wasn't a bitch to use and didn't make constant mistakes. Blah blah Graffiti blah blah - Graffiti isn't handwriting recognition software in the true sense of the term. Too many hardware people are obsessed with producing something because they thought of it in a Star Trek wet dream. People LIKE the keyboard. Look at the Blackberry. Look at the new Handspring Treos. How many people still peck at the keyboard with the stylus on their Palm PDAs? We have PDA makers trying to fit keyboards into tiny-ass PDAs & phones, people like them so much. Except for a few niche areas webpads are still a product looking for a market. Except for being bigger and having less battery life, what is a webpad going to do that a good color PDA doesn't? I may be being contrary, but these are serious questions that manufacturers need to consider before going to market with another damned Audrey.
No electronic pad has ever been made so far that didn't suck. Who knows? Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I think the notebook is always going to be a league ahead of the notepad, and for the reasons above. Until I see a pad that alot of people prefer to notebooks, it's still vapor.
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Re:If you want a tiny Transmeta Computer...
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stubear
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Threre a couple Tablet PC designs which mimic the Vadem Clio HPC device. The screens on these devices flip up to work much like a regular laptop and they can flip around, covering the keyboard for pen input. The monitor can then close much like a laptop protecting the screen from harm. Granted, not all Tablet PCs will follow this form factor design but a few will.
Also, I would wager that one will be able to purchase a special case much like you can purchase laptop and PDA cases today. I'm sure there won't be nay problems being able to properly protect these devices either direct from the manufacturers or through third parties.
Re:If you want a tiny Transmeta Computer...
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Anonymous Coward
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1) Taking notes on a small device sucks with a Blackberry tiny keyboard. This is not an argument for tablets, but for pens and good HWR. 2) Let's have a note taking competition that includes 5 diagrams. See if a keyboard is quicker then.
Not everyone types
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Anonymous Coward
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There are a significant number of people who cannot touch type. The thought is that some other interface will magically enable these people to use computers effectively.
why bother making slow PC's?
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Anonymous Coward
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come on this is crap.. "hi i made this new pc and it's really nifty and stuff and oh yeah it's 70% slower than the fastest desktop/customer-use CPU"
not a good form factor
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condour75
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Well i don't know -- i think this is more futurism-wish-fulfillment than actual good design. There are several downsides to the tablet form factor:
1. Suddenly your input area costs beaucoup power, since it's a display.
2. handwriting, at its fastest, is still very slow compared to typing.
3. almost every child knows how to use a qwerty keyboard already -- who are we appeasing by removing the keyboard, except possibly boomers who haven't had to type since college?
4. display is always exposed to elements, rough handling, etc.
5. ergonomics are terrible; this thing will need to be peered down at and then written on. Will the user put it at a diagonal? will it have some sort of stand?
I'm sure y'all can think of others. The prime benefit, i guess, is being able to use a stylus directly on the surface you're viewing. Doesn't sound worth it to me, a Faustian bargain at best.
HP made crap computers before the merger, but can't help and marvel at Compaq's technologies. I think that as far as for business applications, Compaq has been THE leader of the pack for years.
Too bad the thing won't run Linux native tho. (Does Linux even support something like this?)
Is there some sort of stand for it or are you supposed to hold it up yourself when you're working with it? I am aware you could hang it on the wall but would anyone really be able to work that way? It seems great if all you do is go places and push buttons with a stylus or your fingers but how can you write and read of it? How about the viewing angle? I am all for browsing the web in the tv couch but any old laptop with wifi seems more appropriate for doing that..
Duh
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Anonymous Coward
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Try taking notes in an engineering class using a keyboard, retards. And don't tell me to learn TeX.
fuss about handwriting recognition
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lingqi
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I do NOT know what is the great deal about handwriting recognition... I mean, have anyone here ever used any implementation thereof (beside the funky palm "learn another alphabet" deal... so far, natural language recognitions i have used has been sketchy at best (and yes i am using "award winning" ones)... same is to be said about the chinese version, for those who are interested.
EVEN IF such a tablet is to be used as a browser -- still once in a while i need to type in addrs -- if you argue that i would have everything book-marked -- well, at least you need to type in search phrases! and instead of wasting 3 minutes to type (or say) "www.slashdot.org" (imagine how the voice recognition will totally botch this up -- thanks Taco), it would be much faster to just type it out; and i don't mean on-screen keyboard picking tiny buttons with a stylus deal -- With the current technology: slow and sketchy handwriting recognition, even more sketchy voice recognition, and not-so-precise touch screen, i do not see how such a product would fly and make my life easier -- especially if there is a grand worth of premium. i mean, browsing of the couch is nice, but i can do the same thing with a laptop right now ANYWAY... and as mentioned above, i do not see why i would waste all the extra time inputting addresses / whatever.
furthermore, usually i think people type faster than they write, even those who are not all THAT good at typing... I type ~60wpm (used to be 90, but speed hasn't picked up since switched to Dvorak) -- so i would have a 2-3x speed advantage if i wanted to work on a document on the couch using a laptop vs using a tablet (even it if had 100% accuracy and zero recognition delays)... so...
where is the advantage again? (besides being "neat?")
p.s. Vadem Clio (sharp tri-pad) can do all of this, by the way -- before any of you go spend a fortune on one of the HP/CPQ offerings, get a clio from ebay that does everything the new tablets offer, and see if it really means an easier life -- and the clio HAS a keyboard...
so... on the other hand -- keep america rolling by spending money on un-necessary stuff...
Re:fuss about handwriting recognition
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sffubs
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Actually, I thought the handwriting recoqnition on the latest rev of WinCE was pretty good. I didn't even have to re-learn how to write, I just had to be a little bit clearer (but that goes for humans reading my writing too:) ).
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Possible fix?
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rapett0
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Ok, I been wondering, remember those desks that have the rolldown top? Why do the tablet/pad makers not implement exactly the same thing? It would be such an easy fix and greatly improve the chances of the screen surviving bumps, etc. Is it an asthetic concern? I am sure someone can make it look good. Also, I am patenting this if no one has done it haha:)
Hey, I've got an idea!
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Anonymous Coward
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How about we all just go back to using 386 computers with 300 baud modems and CGA monitors! These newfangled technologies are so useless and impractical anyway.. I don't care if other people will buy them for legitimate purposes, I have a stick up my ass and an inferiority complex!
Tablets ..another bid by MS to beat open source?
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jvagner
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Could the tablet architecture be a pre-mature effort on the part of MS to speed up the development of an alternative user interface that they believe the OSS world can't compete with?
Others here have pointed to OSS efforts regarding handwriting recognition, but it seems to me that given their huge R&D budget, a highly complex and refined user interface could be just the thing MS uses to further the dominance of their OS architecture.
Let's face it -- as much as I love Linux -- the refined nature of the Windows shell (which drives me batty but doesn't my parents) is something a lot of people won't give up for the switch to *nix (see excitement regarding Aqua).
Could this be their intended killer-app? I personally don't think it will work, but should they strike this ball out of the stadium (meaning, delivering a fine technical and user-oriented platform at a particularly appealing price), could this be a serious threat?
One other thing to note -- true Linux advocates tend to be command line junkies. I can type much faster than I can use the mouse. I can easily remember nice complicated command line arguments and do what I need with precision and speed. The average mouse-dependent sysadmin might love a tablet for configuring ISS... not sure we'll ever have an interface to use point and click to configure DNS, Apache, etc (OS X developments notwithstanding).
this would likely soak up every extra bit of processing power available. does anybody know what the advantages to code-morphing might be in pattern recognition software? i am curious as to whether transmeta actually has an advantage here.
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The advantage is that you can run any software compiled for x86 you want. So you can do what ever pattern recognition you can write or buy. Code morphing isn't magic... its just a way to run software.
That is one of the most important aspects of any tablet IMHO. Whatever magic Transmeta do with their code-morphing and low transistor count, is a 1GHz processor really going to allow the machine to be operated for more that, say, 3 hours?
Previous review I have seen of cute Crusoe based machines (e.g. Somy C1 Picture Book) have said that the battery life is better than an average laptop, but hardly astonishing - a gain of something like 20%.
That is definitely the biggest disadvantage of machines such as the Compaq Ipaq already, and I don't see that putting a 1GHz processor in is going to help.
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Apple Newton's big brother
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What makes these guys think that a device larger than the old Newton is going to hit it big? All the old whining about the newton was that it was too big! Has Bill Gates lost his marketing touch this year or what? Xbox, new Newton, XP. All a big bunch of crap. I think M$ hired the Apple marketing department when they invested in the company.
Not that I'm complaining or anything. If they just keep it up for a few years (crossing fingers) they will pull an Apple and fade into tech hell (we can dream, can't we). I guess they'll go down kicking and screaming, after all they have 40 billion in the bank, or whatever.
-- "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel
If I wanted computing power, I'd stay at my desk. I don't want to spend 3 times more to do 2 times less than I can on my desktop workstation. Not even if i had a beowulf cluster of them.
It isn't as good as it sounds.
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I have a 100mhz 486 tablet computer. I thought that I could keep it in my backpack and have loads of linux fun at school. I was wrong.
I am a coder; give me a c-compiler, a decent text editor, and I'm happy. Hell, give me a 4mhz calculator with a meg and a half of ram and an RPL interpreter and I'll be happy. But I need a keyboard. It is painfully slow to program on a calculator keyboard, and a virtual keyboard is so muc worse. I would be willing to trade my tablet for an equivalent lappie anyday.
-- You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
They've had tablet pc's for years.. I have the origional a Dauphin DTR-1 built back in 1989. and EVERY time they make them the tablet pc becomes a complete flop.
Why? people dont want them, not for the insane prices they are asking. If you can make me a tablet web browesr that has a pcmcia slot has a smallish (800x600) LCD that is clear and readable in the dark as well as full-direct-sunlight. I dont want the ability to run java, javascript, flash, or other crap like that. just render HTML 4.0 and it has to cost less than $400.00
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motherfuckin first post of CLITty goodness.
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I like most of my generation grew up watching the Smurfs. I loved them so much that I tuned in every Saturday morning to see what crazy hijinks those lovable little blue creatures would get up to.
It is just now that I have realized what I was really tuning into each and every Saturday morning was in actuality Socialist Propaganda!! Yes that is correct, Papa Smurf and all of his little Smurf minions are not the happy little characters Hanna Barbara would have us believe! The cartoon was really created by the Russian government in order to indoctrinate the youngest members of western society with Socialist beliefs and ideals thus destroying their resistance to the imminent Russian invasion that was to occur when this generation (my generation) grew up.
To prove my point I submit that 1.) They live in a communal village and are discouraged to leave the village without the company of their fellow Smurfs. 2.) Every Smurf has his own specific job and does not deviate from that job. The job even becomes part of their personality and their name (Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, etc.) 3.) If ever a Smurf decides to strike out on his own he is cast into danger in some way of another and it is up to the collective to save him. 4.) Papa Smurf looks an awful lot like Karl Marx plus, he wears all that red.
And let us not forget Smurfette, the lone female Smurf and the embodiment of community property.
In the face of such convincing evidence, it is easy to mark the Smurfs as the Socialists they are, and their nemeses Gargamel (and his maladjusted cat Azrael, a not so subtle attack on ISRAEL) is the personification of Capitalism; out for himself and profit trying to destroy the peaceful commune of Smurfs.
Thankfully our resistance was not destroyed, thanks to the determination of other cartoons such as G.I. Joe and Richie Rich who's goal it was to instill in the children of the western world the morals and values of Capitalism.
Score another one for the CLIT!
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
(from Salon.com)
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June 3, 2002 | Young "Star Wars" fans at a loss for what to do with their Padmé Amidala action figure might take a few tips from the woman behind Amidala, Natalie Portman herself.
Portman tells Rolling Stone magazine that, growing up, she had quite a collection of dolls and "I remember them being very sexual. I don't remember ever not having my dolls have sex with each other."
The actress says that, though all she knew how to do was rub her little dolls against one another, she did it constantly.
"All my dolls would get it on together," she says. "Even the Barbies would get it on with other Barbies, and the guys would get it on with each other."
In fact, she says, "My tub toys also had sex."
Glug, glug, glug
Props CLITS
security through obscurity = modding down anti-linux posts so maybe noone will see them
a laptop, only less durable. sounds like fun.
ph33r
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:10:51 -0500
From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: lwn@lwn.net, editors@linuxtoday.com, malda@slashdot.org, editor@linux.com,
Subject: When times get hard
It hit the papers today that VA Linux Systems is going to have to cut 25% of its staff. The press release, as usual, was bland and neutral,
emphasizing our healthy revenue growth and our bright prospects -- the kind of corporate-speak everybody expects, and that VA has to
generate. It's part of the game.
It's no secret that I'm on VA's Board of Directors. I was at the board meeting where the five-odd people who have the responsibility to advise
Larry Augustin told him what he had to do. I was part of that decision, and it was not an easy one.
I'm not speaking for VA now (I basically never try to do that anyway; it's not my job). I'm speaking for myself. It was a weird, wrenching feeling
to wander around VA headquarters that afternoon, talking with good friends of mine, knowing in a few cases that they were likely to be canned through
no special fault of their own.
What VA is going through now is a sort of ritual bloodletting. The logic of the market is pitiless; when you don't make your numbers, the investors
want to be appeased by evidence that you're doing things to raise your profitability. That means making more dollars per employee, and the
fastest way to get there, the way investors effectively *demand* that you get there, is by laying off your least dollar-yielding employees.
Otherwise, you get what is politely called "loss of investor confidence". Companies go on life support when that happens -- they
can't get capital by selling shares, and that has ripple effects -- it tends to make potential customers bolt. When the customers bolt, the company runs out of money and die. Or it gets acquired, either by a large competitor or (worse) by a slice-n-dice artist who will sell off the assets and shitcan the company.
I went along with the 25% cuts because I understood the possible alternative: no company. And no employees. And no possibility that
my friends will ever be able to come back to work for a company they still love and care about.
I think VA's problems are solvable ones. The company got rocked by the popping of the dot.com bubble and the economic downturn we're in.
But we know what we have to do to deal with that. In order to avoid making what the SEC calls "forward-looking statements" I'm not going
to talk about our strategy or future prospects here; you can go ask VA's corporate-communications folks about that.
But the real reason I'm writing this little broadside is larger than VA; it's about the state of the open-source community, and the things
we need to keep in mind when times get hard.
VA, along with Red Hat, is one of the two bellwethers of the open-source business community. Some people are going to freak out
and think this setback is a harbinger of doom, that it means our community's game is over. Some people, especially at certain
monopolistic closed-source competitors I don't need to name, know better -- that troubles like VA's are pretty common in a market
downturn -- but they'll use it as ammunition in a FUD campaign anyhow. Expect to see Steve Ballmer and Jim Alchin quietly gloating at any
trade-press reporter they can collar. Brace for it.
And, as it says in large friendly letters on the back of the Hitchhiker's Guide, DON'T PANIC! What we're seeing now is entirely
normal. It's the long, dizzy boom time that has just ended, all smiles and champagne and venture capital sloshing around looking
for business plans, that has been exceptional. Business cycles happen, there are layoffs and retrenchments all over the economy --
and this, too, shall pass. Things will get better.
There is actually one good thing for us about economic slumps. During them, IT departments and software users in general feel pressure to cut costs. That makes low-cost and free software more attractive. Over the next few months you can expect to see a lot of submarine Linux deployments suddenly surfacing as managers realize that they'll look *good* on their quarterlies if they cut their licensing and service costs, and as the techies working for them get that message
and fess up to how many NT boxes they've been replacing by stealth.
So the downturn isn't all bad news for us, by any means. We just needto keep doing what we're doing, the best work we can. And when the
economy picks up again, we will have gained by it.
Back at IPO time I wrote an essay called "Surprised By Wealth" in which I tried to deal with how weird it felt to have a theoretical net
worth of $41 million. Am I upset that all that "wealth" is gone, at least until the stock bounces back? Well...yes and no. As a member
of VA's Board, it's my job to worry about our stock price, on behalf of all of our stockholders. So I care about that.
But personally? Nah. I wasn't in this for the bucks then, and I'm not now. Like most hackers, I do what I do for love and I thank the
gods that I can occasionally talk people into paying me money for it. Feels almost like taking advantage of them sometimes, doesn't it?
All the corporate stuff is not, after all, the point -- the point is to change the world, to do better software and give users more
choices. It's been a nice party, but some of us did get a little distracted by all that easy money flowing around. If the slump does
nothing else but take our eyes off those dollar signs and put them firmly back on the work, maybe it will have been the best thing for us
after all.
Lie does not interfere with sex(0)
Over 50% of officer workers under thirty take an overtime leave from time to time to have sex. At that people tell their bosses, they have got an acute inflammation of the heel nerve, that may be lethal if they do not stay at home.
A sociological investigation was held among office workers in Britain. As it turned out, over 50% of respondents easily tell lies when it comes to sex. To put it in other words, if a young man or a woman spend whole night making love, they suddenly realize in the morning that they have to go to work. But at the same time, they are reluctant to go. They would rather continue making love. At this very moment people may even invent that they are seriously ill, very unbelievable diseases may arise at this moment, by the way: gangrene, psoriasis, scurvy, leprosy, anything would do in this case. The poll revealed, 52% of Englishmen under thirty, discover symptoms of such diseases, then call the boss and say they can not come to work. It may seem strange, but after a call to the boss, all symptoms vanish at once.
By the way, about 24% of people under 50 also like to take an overtime leave to have sex. Meanwhile, it sounds more natural for people of this age to ask for an overtime leave for the reason of a hang-over. 56% of this age group use this very argument for having an overtime leave.
CLIT. Are you a memb
I am a lesbian, deeply involved with a woman of lusty beauty such as most men will never know. Her hair is short and blonde. Her face is bold, with a nice sexy square jaw. She has small breasts, and muscular arms and legs, and even a slight hint of a six-pack. Just the mere thought of her body gets my juices flowing.
She and I have been carpet munching for well over five years now. We love each other deeply, but it seems we've reached an impasse in our relationship. Every night, I lick and I lick and I lick. I finger, finger, finger. I also get the attention back with all sorts of creative ideas from my partner. Everything from dildos, to finger paints (when I am on my period), to meat tenderizer. However, no matter how much sexual gratification we exchange, it seems to be wearing down.
One day, while surfing on Slashdot, I learned about an interesting technique involving a turkey baster. The basic idea is that you fill a turkey baster with
The next job was to find a source of sperm. Sperm is not hard to come by. Men ejaculate tens of thousands of gallons of it every day. We figured it'd be easy to acquire a nice hot, steaming load of cum from virtually any man. One day, I stood outside the door of our home, close to the sidewalk, top-less, and perking my lively breasts at any man who passed. Most simply gawked, but some actually tried to touch, but quickly walked away before doing so. Pretty soon, a nice young man came along who took such an interest in my tits that he seemed to forget about all else! Before long, I had him in our house and I was giving him a blowjob before he even knew what happened. As soon as he shot a big load into my mouth, I grabbed the baster and spit the load into it. He looked puzzled, but quickly realized the bizarre situation he was in and left immediately. I paid him no mind.
"Quickly," I shouted to my lover, "fuck me with this thing!" My lover grabbed the baster, thrust it into my eager beaver, and began to thrust like she was a man. I rubbed her clit and fingered her and she tweaked my boobs and fondled my own clit. When we were both about to climax, she squeezed the bulb of the turkey baster, squirting the whole load deep into my uterus. The warm, thick feeling of it drove me wild! When we were done, we rubbed oil all over each other's bodies, praying to the Lord Jesus that we would get pregnant.
Over the next few weeks, signs of something unusual began to show. As it turns out, I was not only pregnant, I had herpes too. Fucking Hemos! My life was turned upside down, but that story is for another day...
In the summer time, I go to visit my dad, step mother, brothers and the rest of my family in Michigan. They live in a very small place as well as I do. But now, when I visit, there is a new element that I expect to happen other than seeing family and friend. My cousin and I hear the "not-so-there-people" It really all began about 3 summers ago, we were up late one night and we kept hearing people murmuring. We searched the intire house, looked at all the t.v.'s, radio's, and checked for everyone to be in bed. Nobody lives within a mile of them. And no one was around, it was about 1 am, this nightly visit went on for about a hour and a half. This continued the 2 months I was there.Until finally one night, the night before I left back home, I got very brave, stood up and said," Where are you in a calm soft tone" so I dont wake anyone up other than Amy who was already awake with me. All of a sudden the murmers stop and in a low throaty tone we heard," Outside...come on, come out here." We both froze, but I didn't feel threatend by them. Once again I heard murmers and laughter. So, I went outside, as I walked out there, I froze once again. Out there, about 200ft. I would say, there was a bright red truck with it's headlight on, and about 5 teenagers sat there, pale, staring at me, until one of them smiled and said," Come on." I could see them , but barely, they were all very faint and see through, plus it was dark and ectoplaysm circled them. All of a sudden, my Dad burst through the door, he startled me and I turned to him, and looked back but they were gone. Amy told him what was going on. Later, Michael, my other cousin and former owner of the home had told me that a group of teenagers would come there late at night into his barn and engage in premiscuise events. But one night, they were all sitting in the back of the truck drinking, and a drunk driver swirved and hit the car, killing them all of impact. This made me cry. I am usually not a really emotional person in public, I am still confused what made me cry. The fact that they were killed so young, that they are unsettled, or what.Anyway's, it happend, to this day Amy and I still hear them murmering, and laughing, but it get's fainter every summer. Whenever I hear them, I go out to see if they are there, but they never are. If you can tell me, why Amy and I are the only one's who hear them, and I can no longer see them, please email me, I am
The KDE project is famous for its funded and organised trolling of
weblogs and message board associated with Linux and Free software/open
source. Outrageous newbie impressing claims are made for the software
and huge quanities of FUD are spread to destroy competitors. If this
sounds familiar, then you are correct, most of these tactics were
lifted straight from Microsoft's arsenal of dirty tricks. The Windows
look and feel is not the only thing the KDE project has copied! In
this short article I will address some of the lies and FUD spread by
the KDE trolling teams. It is my hope that this, in some small way,
will redress the balance and re-introduce two things almost eradicated
by the KDE project: Honesty and facts.
Myth #1 - KDE is more integrated than GNOME
The oft-heard cry of the noisiest KDE advocates. No explanation is
given, the reader is expected to simply grok the wholesomeness of KDE
and the lack of this mystical quality in GNOME. It is nonsense of
course. Neither desktop is particularly "integrated" compared to
Windows XP, and certainly not compared any version of the Apple Mac.
Whatever "integrated" actually means.
Myth #2 - KDE is easier to use
Again, such nebulous arguments are never explained, and the reader is
expected to simply understand the truth of the zealots statement. Both
KDE and GNOME have user-interface irritations (all systems do), but
"ease of use" is not a simple thing to measure. KDE has never been
subjected to detailed user testing, unlike GNOME [gnome.org]
[gnome.org], and the claims of user-friendliness are from crazed
supporters and not average users. Furthermore, the KDE faithful rarely
look beyond simple-minded copying of Windows, and forget that
administering a desktop system is just as important as having widgets
in the correct place on the toolbar. For example: What about
application installation and removal? GNOME has the excellent
RedCarpet by Ximian [ximian.com] [ximian.com], which makes the
installation, removal and updating of applications trivial. KDE users
are expected to fend for themselves with brutal command line driven
systems. GNOME also has the excellent Ximian setup tools to handle
various tricky cross-platform and potentially risky system
configuration operations. KDE offers none of this, only a few small
half-assed Linux-only tools, which make no attempt at check-pointing
to return to known working configurations.
Myth #3 - KDE is more popular
In what sense? Arguably more people use KDE, but it is a close run
thing. Most KDE zealots use the results of online polls as proof of
their superior userbase - which is, quite frankly, complete and utter
nonsense. Online polls are the joke of the century; it doesn't even
require a motivated script kiddie to render then worthless. A single
post alerting the faithful on a zealot-ridden site can skew the result
so much it makes American presidential elections look fair and well
organised. Popularity is also difficult to measure when *both* GNOME
and KDE are frequently installed on the same system. The systems can
co-exist and even run at the same time, except for certain
applications such as panels. Many KDE users actually run GNOME
applications for their superior features and stability, not realising
that by doing so they are barely running KDE at all.
One of the few solid measures of popularity is commercial use of a
desktop, and here, GNOME is far ahead with both Hewlett Packard and
Sun committing to using GNOME as the desktop for their Unix systems.
This also ties in with the previously mentioned ease of use. Sun's
major contribution to the GNOME project is in the areas of
user/developer documentation, testing, accessiblity and user-testing.
Three of the less glamourous parts of desktop development. The arrival
of the GNOME 2.x series will see these contributions reach fruitition
and allow GNOME to make a quantum leap ahead of KDE in most of the
basic computer/user issues.
Myth #4 - Konqueror is the best Linux browser
Oh for a penny every time this lie is told in any KDE story! Konqueror
not a bad piece of software. It's authors deserve praise for the work
done on it. However, the sheer amount of orgasmic gushing by the KDE
faithful is completely out of proportion to its actual quality. It is
quite unreliable and even simple standards compliant pages can crash
it quite comprehensively. It is also lax in its support of basic web
standards compared to either Mozilla or Opera. It is also extremely
slow - much slower than the latest incarnations of the GNOME Nautilus
filemanager/browser (a target of much KDE FUD during its development).
Myth #5 - KDE applications are better/more advanced than GNOME ones
due to the ease of developing in C++ using the Qt toolkit
See also: Qt/TrollTech. This is the most common wail heard by KDE
developers, and yet it is easily disproved by looking at the actual
applications for GNOME/GTK and KDE/Qt. KDE applications often have
larger version numbers than GNOME ones... an old trick played by
commerical software developers. Most KDE apps seem to jump for 1.x
releases long before they are ready - KOffice being the best example.
None of the components in Koffice are worthy of a 1.0 release, let
alone 1.1 or 1.2.
GNOME applications get much more testing in their 0.x stages and
despite shorter development phases they mature and reach stable
featureful release states much more quickly. Some examples of this
are: the superb Evolution (groupware/email), Gnumeric (spreadsheet),
Pan (newsreader), The GIMP (image manipulation), Abiword (word
processing), RedCarpet, X-Chat (IRC client), XMMS (media player),
Galeon (web browser), and for developers: Glade and Anjuta. All of
these packages ooze quality, and far outclass their KDE counterparts.
It is no understatement to say that GNOME is at least 18 months ahead
of KDE in applications, and pulling still further ahead.
It's not only in the area of user applications that GNOME is vastly
more advanced. With the forthcoming 2.x release, a number of
impressive behind the scenes technologies will finally mature:
component technology (bonobo), media (Gstreamer), internationalisation
(pango). As a developement platform, GNOME 2.x is, conservatively, 2-3
years ahead of KDE. And what is more, because it is not tied to a
lowest common denominator cross-platform bloat-fest like the Qt
toolkit, the lead (as with applications) can only increase further.
It is also worth noting that GNOME also develops code for use outside
the project (see the XML libraries as one example) - the KDE project
rarely (if ever) engages in this kind of work. KDE developers ensure
that all software must link with Qt, and hence tie it closely with the
Qt toolkit preventing re-use and enhancing the value of TrollTech
intellectual property.
Yet despite all this, we are still regularly fed the lie that Qt and
C++ makes application and desktop development easier. Judge for
yourself.
Myth #6 - KDE is faster and takes less memory than GNOME
KDE is written in C++. While this is not necessarily a problem, it can
be when Visual Basic reject programmers (which the KDE project is
overrun with) do not know enough to avoid important pitfalls that
plague C++ software projects. Stupid use of autoincrementing operators
and iteration with C++ objects; and masses of unnecessary allocations
and deallocations of memory are two of the most common. KDE suffers
badly from both problems.
Perhaps the most cretinous of all problems is blaming the extremely
slow startup times of KDE apps on GCC. The GNOME 1.x releases were
hardly svelt (2.x fixes many of these issues), but GNOME is a fashion
cat-walk superwaif when compared to KDE's 500lb fat-momma
cheese-burger scoffing trailer trash. One need only look at the recent
fuss over ugly KDE hacks (such as prelinking) used to bandage up the
design and coding flaws in the decrepit KDE architecture to see the
truth.
Myth #7 - GNOME development is slower. KDE releases faster.
Fundamental misunderstanding. The KDE project releases as one big lump
of code due to its use of C++ and the many problems this causes with
libraries. The project bumps the version number of the entire KDE
system for the smallest modifications. GNOME, on the other hand is
componentized and each component releases on a (almost) separate
schedule, bumping it's own version number but not the main GNOME
version (1.4, for example). Occasional releases of the entire GNOME
system happen, and that's when the GNOME version number is bumped
(currently it is at 1.4). To see this in action, use RedCarpet and you
will regular updates to GNOME components. GNOME development is not
slower, it is in fact faster and more advanced. Lamers and newbies,
however, fail to understand the advantages of this method and just see
KDE 1.1.1 followed a few weeks later by KDE 1.1.2. Wow! KDE roolz.
That picture (on CNN) looks like a gigantic iPaq. Looks like HP's really getting their moneys worth from Compaq..
air and light and time and space
If I were your typical slashdot reader...
I would applaud Transmeta and ask if this ran Linux.
I would like Transmeta because it is/was loosely associated with Linus.
I would make some other stupid comment about how this will change everything and how Intel's chip dominance is over.
I would then make it clear to everyone that I am a member of the LBGT community.
But...I'm not...so I have to say - God Bless the C.L.I.T.
Despite all the recent hype about tablets, I really can't forsee them selling well. I mean, wasn't this tried before? This is especially true when most of the ones I've seen reviewed cost more than a notebook (~$3000). Yeah, you can hang it on a wall, but is the extra grand really worth being able to type on a virtual keyboard with a stylus?
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Exactly.
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Why is it everyone seems to think touch screens are the great revolutionary thing. I've used them on palms and casio pocket computers and have found them to be rather annoying at best. I think I'll prefer the laptop. Maybe, I won't look as cool, but at least I won't have to go through the agrivation of using the touch tablets.
Reserved Word.
HP anounced today the the tablet device will sell for $50. Replacement screens, which are good for 1000 page views can be purchased for $85, or $100 for 1500 page views.
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
Wake me up when I can actually buy a transmeta-based laptop.
It's amusing that the Linus has gotten himself involved with vaporware vendors almost as prolific as the Bitboys!
I thought the i-recession (or is that e-collapse?) taught people that your company had to produce something a little more tangible than press releases and hype.
Coming up next : "Netcraft verifies : Transmeta is dying!"
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
With compaq you always need a stupid name. All their consumer products now start with "Evo", and they get awards for it. So much for creativity.
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
I write you this letter of request for partnership which I hope you will give your urgent attention. We worked as members of the Operating System / Penguin Abuse Committee inaugurated by the present Democratically Elected Committee of the Electronic Frontier Foundation headed by General Richard Stallman (rtd). We are empowered to diligently review, re-appraise, scrutinize and approve feces payments to Linux users who executed *BSD devils under the past operating system regime and our work is almost concluded.
In the course of our work we discovered this fecal matter, which resulted from grossly over-used toilets, which were executed for the GNU is Not Unix Corporation (GNU) by a consortium of several Foreign Companies such as:
VA SOFTWARE, RED HAT, INC., SUSE GMBH. AND A JOINT VENTURE OF MANDRAKE AND CALDERA GMBH FOR: This amounts to the tune of 100 tons of fecal matter, but was over-invoiced to 150 tons of feces. And we deliberately approved these fecal deposits and all Lunix users have been paid with these penguins executed and since abused, leaving the large amount of Eric S Raymond's magnificent deposit floating in the escrow pool of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) ready to be paid for the sexual services from the products in item number [2] as stated above. Before digressing further I would want you to know that our GNU General Public License forbids us from owning any money or having heterosexual relationships whilst in GNU service; hence we are contacting you to be part of this transaction.
We intend to use your anus as a front to get the over-invoiced amount of 50 tons of feces out of the BSD sewers and into a designated toilet by you. Not regarding your field of specialization (sphincter expansion) you are going to forward us with any name that we will claim executed the sewaging services in the turn around maintenance of the Penguin fecal abuse farms mentioned above. All logistics are in place and all modalities worked out for the smooth insertion of the feces within ten to fourteen days of commencement after the receipt of a semen deposit from you. You are going to get 25% of the feces by posing as the owner of this fecal matter, while my colleagues and I will get 70% to ourselves with which we wish to invest in Agriculture and Farming in conjunction with you (and 5% will be set aside for the use of both parties for all excretions incurred locally and internationally during the realisation of this transaction, including toilet paper). As a matter of fact you are expected to take a sincere inventory of your toilet paper.
It is imperative to let you know that I am also a keen scatologist, with qualifications world-wide.
Despite research carried out to verify and ascertain your personality we can only move ahead if you can further assure us of your anal capacity and homosexuality and promise to help and treat this proposal with utmost confidentiality. We are men of proven integrity in our various fields who have put in 22 - 30 years of fecal matter in the toilets of our country; we are therefore averse to having our image and anuses widened. That is why we should acknowledge the fact that confidentiality is the key to the smooth insertion of this infection free transaction.
Awaiting your earliest positive response.
Best regards and remain blessed.
DR. LUNIX TORVALDS
Well, my first impression is I'm sure pretty similar to that of any obedient slashdroid: "Linus ownz, and another great platform for Linux!" I mean, you're talking small 'Net-enabled ePliances, then you're talking embedded systems, and there's one OS that excels in embedded systems, and it ain't WinCE. ;)
But then I considered the fact that TransMeta, Linus, and Linux as a whole are generally European companies. SuSE, et al are based in Germany. And so while this product might be great for Linux and the related European economy, I can't help but feel a pang of guilt cheering for such a product, as thousands of my compatriots seek work here at home, in our foundering economy.
Micro$lop may be evil. They may make terrible products. They may even be a monopoly.
But they are an American company. In this post-9/11 world, I think it's time to stop worrying about petty OS wars, and focus on what matters.
Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
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Anybody know if we'll need special drivers to put Linux on this thing (probably the biggest thing is a handwriting recognition program, of course)?
I'm assuming we'll be force fed Windows XP, but with a Transmeta processor, you can always hope.
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Has Transmeta made anything but vaporware?
Every ghey story Slashdot has about them includes the line, 'later this year'.
that's a good one .. HAHA haha HAHA haha
Seriously, isn't this whole idea pretty much useless without handwriting recognition? I've seen nothing to suggest that anyone has that working yet...
Good to see Transmeta getting a deal like this; we can only hope it actually works out. Publicity like this is exactly what the company needs to take back some of the market from Wintel ®.
(mmm. 1GHz in a tablet sounds mighty tasty).
I really hope they (and some others) can make the breakthrough, the processor market really needs some fresh new competition. Even though AMD and Intel are "battling", the fight is still, despite of the press - done in Intel's universe. See this article from turn of 2001.
But, when we see real pressure from multiple directions, we might see these companies develop something truly revolutionary, currently they don't have to - they just don't. A market situation in which Intel would have only around 40% slice, would nurture much more speedy development.
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transmeta has created a good nitch. but, as a company you have to shift a lot of processors to make a decent profit. tmta has about $400M in debt, and a market cap of slightly less. those are some difficult straights for a company with less than a $100M in income. I imagine that they will be bought out and the tech will go on to influence others... the best result is likely to be the creation of a heterogeneous computing environment.
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The only market I can see for this thing is the people who want to take notes in meetings and be able to upload them to their PC. Didn't the CrossPad try this already and fail? The only way people might use this is if they could detach their laptop screen and use it as such. It won't sell on it's own. Bittersweet for Transmeta because they got the business but too bad it's going to be a flop. Not even mentioning that MS is writing the software.
Found this large picture on Microsoft's Tablet PC image gallery:
Compaq Tablet PC Design Concept
Here is Compaq's page which talks about this thing.
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It's good to see Transmeta snaggin some big contracts down. After the couple sony models with the transmeta chip it seemed as if the company was going down hill fast. It would be sad to see a cool company like transmeta go, so let's all go out buy web pads now :)
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The Evo Tablet PC, which HP plans to target at business users, is comparable in size to a pad of paper and is a fully compatible Windows XP computer.
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A little offtopic, but I'd be really happy if someone would come out with a cheap, lcd, even if text only, telnet 'terminal' that could plug right into the network, not even wireless, for $50 DHCP or static addressing, DNS, telnet, nothing else. I'd buy a few of those. Fast power-on would be the key. Many times I want to just check the mail on my main server at home without having to power up the main box. I can use the palm pilot, sure, but the limited display and lack of keyboard are a PITA.
Why is it that every time someone at Transmeta farts, it gets front page at Slashdot?! You Lunix nonces should all be lined up and SHOT. I recommend that all *BSD users go out and buy M4-A1 rifles and hollow point ammo. We'll then stroll over to the nearest LUG meeting and dispense some "Security Advice".
That's the problem with these types of devices--they are still way out of reach of most users pricewise. Granted, the articles don't mention price, but you can be sure that based on similar products available today, it will probably sell for between $1500 and $2500--way too high for the average user.
All I want is a wireless, tablet-sized device that will allow me to surf the web from anywhere in my house, wirelessly connecting to my LAN, and I would like to see it for below $1000. I don't need Windows XP, I won't be playing games or doing video production on this thing! I just want to surf the web!
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That Evo should really be pronounced Evil.
...go for Fujitsu's P-2000 Laptop with a 7-hour high capacity battery, DVDROM, and a wireless LAN card.
IMO, pads do and shall always suck, primarily because of the inherent frailty of an exposed screen. Sure, the screens on notebooks fail all the time too, but at least when not used they're folded shut & semi-protected. In this specific comparison, I see no reason to use some frail theoretical webpad when I can rely on existent notebook technology to carry around a computer so fucking small (10.6"(w) x 7"(d) x 1.59"(h)), smaller than the form design for most webpads, that lets me do anything my desktop does.
And everyone seems to bitch about wanting a "more natural" interface. From an anthropological perspective, there is no "more natural", there's just what you're used to -- the human animal can express ideas in multitudes of ways, and when it come to writing what I'm used to is thinking as I type about 90wpm. Writing with a pen on a notepad anymore feels feels like I've got a 25mph governor on a Ferrari. It's infuriating, and it doesn't get any better when you're dealing with some shit handwriting software - I haven't seen a single handwriting recognition program that wasn't a bitch to use and didn't make constant mistakes. Blah blah Graffiti blah blah - Graffiti isn't handwriting recognition software in the true sense of the term. Too many hardware people are obsessed with producing something because they thought of it in a Star Trek wet dream. People LIKE the keyboard. Look at the Blackberry. Look at the new Handspring Treos. How many people still peck at the keyboard with the stylus on their Palm PDAs? We have PDA makers trying to fit keyboards into tiny-ass PDAs & phones, people like them so much. Except for a few niche areas webpads are still a product looking for a market. Except for being bigger and having less battery life, what is a webpad going to do that a good color PDA doesn't? I may be being contrary, but these are serious questions that manufacturers need to consider before going to market with another damned Audrey.
No electronic pad has ever been made so far that didn't suck. Who knows? Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I think the notebook is always going to be a league ahead of the notepad, and for the reasons above. Until I see a pad that alot of people prefer to notebooks, it's still vapor.
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There are a significant number of people who cannot touch type. The thought is that some other interface will magically enable these people to use computers effectively.
come on this is crap.. "hi i made this new pc and it's really nifty and stuff and oh yeah it's 70% slower than the fastest desktop/customer-use CPU"
Well i don't know -- i think this is more futurism-wish-fulfillment than actual good design. There are several downsides to the tablet form factor:
1. Suddenly your input area costs beaucoup power, since it's a display.
2. handwriting, at its fastest, is still very slow compared to typing.
3. almost every child knows how to use a qwerty keyboard already -- who are we appeasing by removing the keyboard, except possibly boomers who haven't had to type since college?
4. display is always exposed to elements, rough handling, etc.
5. ergonomics are terrible; this thing will need to be peered down at and then written on. Will the user put it at a diagonal? will it have some sort of stand?
I'm sure y'all can think of others. The prime benefit, i guess, is being able to use a stylus directly on the surface you're viewing. Doesn't sound worth it to me, a Faustian bargain at best.
HP made crap computers before the merger, but can't help and marvel at Compaq's technologies. I think that as far as for business applications, Compaq has been THE leader of the pack for years.
Too bad the thing won't run Linux native tho. (Does Linux even support something like this?)
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Is there some sort of stand for it or are you supposed to hold it up yourself when you're working with it? I am aware you could hang it on the wall but would anyone really be able to work that way? It seems great if all you do is go places and push buttons with a stylus or your fingers but how can you write and read of it? How about the viewing angle? I am all for browsing the web in the tv couch but any old laptop with wifi seems more appropriate for doing that..
Try taking notes in an engineering class using a keyboard, retards. And don't tell me to learn TeX.
I do NOT know what is the great deal about handwriting recognition... I mean, have anyone here ever used any implementation thereof (beside the funky palm "learn another alphabet" deal...
so far, natural language recognitions i have used has been sketchy at best (and yes i am using "award winning" ones)... same is to be said about the chinese version, for those who are interested.
EVEN IF such a tablet is to be used as a browser -- still once in a while i need to type in addrs -- if you argue that i would have everything book-marked -- well, at least you need to type in search phrases! and instead of wasting 3 minutes to type (or say) "www.slashdot.org" (imagine how the voice recognition will totally botch this up -- thanks Taco), it would be much faster to just type it out; and i don't mean on-screen keyboard picking tiny buttons with a stylus deal -- With the current technology: slow and sketchy handwriting recognition, even more sketchy voice recognition, and not-so-precise touch screen, i do not see how such a product would fly and make my life easier -- especially if there is a grand worth of premium. i mean, browsing of the couch is nice, but i can do the same thing with a laptop right now ANYWAY... and as mentioned above, i do not see why i would waste all the extra time inputting addresses / whatever.
furthermore, usually i think people type faster than they write, even those who are not all THAT good at typing... I type ~60wpm (used to be 90, but speed hasn't picked up since switched to Dvorak) -- so i would have a 2-3x speed advantage if i wanted to work on a document on the couch using a laptop vs using a tablet (even it if had 100% accuracy and zero recognition delays)... so...
where is the advantage again? (besides being "neat?")
p.s. Vadem Clio (sharp tri-pad) can do all of this, by the way -- before any of you go spend a fortune on one of the HP/CPQ offerings, get a clio from ebay that does everything the new tablets offer, and see if it really means an easier life -- and the clio HAS a keyboard...
so... on the other hand -- keep america rolling by spending money on un-necessary stuff...
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Ok, I been wondering, remember those desks that have the rolldown top? Why do the tablet/pad makers not implement exactly the same thing? It would be such an easy fix and greatly improve the chances of the screen surviving bumps, etc. Is it an asthetic concern? I am sure someone can make it look good. Also, I am patenting this if no one has done it haha :)
How about we all just go back to using 386 computers with 300 baud modems and CGA monitors! These newfangled technologies are so useless and impractical anyway.. I don't care if other people will buy them for legitimate purposes, I have a stick up my ass and an inferiority complex!
Could the tablet architecture be a pre-mature effort on the part of MS to speed up the development of an alternative user interface that they believe the OSS world can't compete with?
Others here have pointed to OSS efforts regarding handwriting recognition, but it seems to me that given their huge R&D budget, a highly complex and refined user interface could be just the thing MS uses to further the dominance of their OS architecture.
Let's face it -- as much as I love Linux -- the refined nature of the Windows shell (which drives me batty but doesn't my parents) is something a lot of people won't give up for the switch to *nix (see excitement regarding Aqua).
Could this be their intended killer-app? I personally don't think it will work, but should they strike this ball out of the stadium (meaning, delivering a fine technical and user-oriented platform at a particularly appealing price), could this be a serious threat?
One other thing to note -- true Linux advocates tend to be command line junkies. I can type much faster than I can use the mouse. I can easily remember nice complicated command line arguments and do what I need with precision and speed. The average mouse-dependent sysadmin might love a tablet for configuring ISS... not sure we'll ever have an interface to use point and click to configure DNS, Apache, etc (OS X developments notwithstanding).
this would likely soak up every extra bit of processing power available. does anybody know what the advantages to code-morphing might be in pattern recognition software? i am curious as to whether transmeta actually has an advantage here.
That is one of the most important aspects of any tablet IMHO. Whatever magic Transmeta do with their code-morphing and low transistor count, is a 1GHz processor really going to allow the machine to be operated for more that, say, 3 hours?
Previous review I have seen of cute Crusoe based machines (e.g. Somy C1 Picture Book) have said that the battery life is better than an average laptop, but hardly astonishing - a gain of something like 20%.
That is definitely the biggest disadvantage of machines such as the Compaq Ipaq already, and I don't see that putting a 1GHz processor in is going to help.
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What makes these guys think that a device larger than the old Newton is going to hit it big? All the old whining about the newton was that it was too big! Has Bill Gates lost his marketing touch this year or what? Xbox, new Newton, XP. All a big bunch of crap. I think M$ hired the Apple marketing department when they invested in the company. Not that I'm complaining or anything. If they just keep it up for a few years (crossing fingers) they will pull an Apple and fade into tech hell (we can dream, can't we). I guess they'll go down kicking and screaming, after all they have 40 billion in the bank, or whatever.
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If I wanted computing power, I'd stay at my desk. I don't want to spend 3 times more to do 2 times less than I can on my desktop workstation. Not even if i had a beowulf cluster of them.
I have a 100mhz 486 tablet computer. I thought that I could keep it in my backpack and have loads of linux fun at school. I was wrong.
I am a coder; give me a c-compiler, a decent text editor, and I'm happy. Hell, give me a 4mhz calculator with a meg and a half of ram and an RPL interpreter and I'll be happy. But I need a keyboard. It is painfully slow to program on a calculator keyboard, and a virtual keyboard is so muc worse. I would be willing to trade my tablet for an equivalent lappie anyday.
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They've had tablet pc's for years.. I have the origional a Dauphin DTR-1 built back in 1989. and EVERY time they make them the tablet pc becomes a complete flop.
Why? people dont want them, not for the insane prices they are asking. If you can make me a tablet web browesr that has a pcmcia slot has a smallish (800x600) LCD that is clear and readable in the dark as well as full-direct-sunlight. I dont want the ability to run java, javascript, flash, or other crap like that. just render HTML 4.0 and it has to cost less than $400.00
otherwise the product will be an utter failure.
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