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Grab a cuppa joe, or whatever you drink at this time of day, and read on for this edition of Slashback, with updates and additional information on the strange (but statistically iffy) dangers of microbiology, Google's contest winner, and Sony's Linux kit for the PS2.

Location, location, location. A lot of people were interested in the Google contest whose winner was announced last week; Dan Egnor creator of that entry, writes "FYI, I've released the code for the winning Google contest entry under the GPL."

You mean they weren't just saying Hi? Anonymous Goodfella writes: "In an update to the Dangers of Being a Microbiologist, the AP [news.com.au] is reporting an attack on a Tennessee state medical examiner who gave evidence to an inquiry into the death of infectious diseases researcher Don Wiley. Coroner O.C. Smith was left tied with barbed wire to an apparent explosive."

Jakob Nielsen says Flash No Longer Evil Allen Varney writes "Given that Flash MX now supports the back button, Unicode, and accessibility, and has introduced p$user interface components, usability guru Jakob Nielsen today updated his famous 'Flash: 99% Bad' rant from October 2000. (Scroll down to see the update, stirringly titled 'Flash Now Improved.') His Nielsen Norman Group has formed a strategic alliance with Macromedia to start educating one million Flash designers in the fundamentals of good design. You did know that Flash .SWF is now an open format, right?"

Step 47: remove blindfold, scream. For those anxiously awaiting (or judiciously pondering) the Linux upgrade kit for the PS2, some words to consider from reader silvaran, who writes: "I just received my Playstation 2 Linux kit in the mail. I was disappointed to find that none of the monitors (3) that I had function properly with it. So I took to following the instructions on a blind install. It's not the most elegant of solutions, but it works. You need a blank memory card to install, but everything else is included in the kit. I'm on my way to a full Linux installation, complete with 100mbit networking, 40-gig HD and a USB keyboard and mouse; also included are full documentation on taking advantage of the PS2 hardware under Linux."

That blind install looks not for the faint of heart -- still, it would be nice if every distro included a simple walk through like that for when a monitor just isn't handy :)

Reader microwerx adds some a few more words of advice and caution: "[T]he PS2 Linux Kit will not read CDRs, so you'll have to use the supplied 10/100 Ethernet Adapter to get stuff in and out of the machine. One very good thing about the PS2 Linux Kit was the documentation regarding the Emotion Engine chip, etc. There's at least 2000+ pages of information regarding how it all works in glorious PDF format. There is also a OpenGL-like library (ps2gl) that supports the hardware. I also understand that SDL also works. Another is the amount of equipment you receive. You get a USB mouse and keyboard, a 10/100MBPS Ethernet Adaptor, A VGA convertor, and a 40Gb Hard drive. And all of this stuff appears to have some future use (you may have to remove Linux to use them nonetheless). So, once again, unless you just want the novelty of having a PS2 Workstation, developing console games, or setting up a small home server, I don't believe that you'll gain too much additional functionality. An overall rating of 3 1/2 stars out of 5 is certainly in order (because after all, it is for game development)."

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  1. Re:Gnoogle by Nerftoe · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gnu + google = gnoogle.

  2. Gnougle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google yeilds this for a search for gnoogle:

    http://betes.free.fr/gnougle-parodie-de-google.h tm

  3. The attack on the medical examiner... by xenoweeno · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...happened in Memphis. Local news, including video (in which you can read the psychotic, rambling letters if you pause at the right point) is here.

  4. Completed the Blind install by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although the blind install looks tough its actually quite straight forward.
    I just took it very slowly (One keypress at a time)and ticked off the boxes, It worked first time (Only because I managed to keep the cats off the keyboard)

    I was dissappointed to find that the kit did not work with any of my monitors either (I'm waiting on a 2nd Hand 17" Sony to arrive as I can't hog the TV all night). Its a good sales ploy by Sony, apparently a lot of people are buying new and used Sony monitors for their kits as they are the most likely monitors to work.

    It didn't take long before I had X up and running and little while latter had KDE installed. Its not very usable through the TV (Even at 80cms) some of the fonts are quite hard to read, also getting a little frustrated with having to ALT and move windows all the time in X.

  5. Re:Good price for all this stuff? by owlicks58 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tis $199 plus shippin

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  6. Re:PS2 Linux Project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'd like to know if the PS2 modchip alleviates the cd-r/dvd-r problem

    No, it doesn't. So how "Interesting" is that post now?

  7. Open-source cross-platform tools for swf by jensend · · Score: 4, Informative

    One very useful tool for generating .swf is the ming library, which can be used in conjunction with AutoTrace and ImageMagick to convert just about anything to .swf.

  8. On PS2 Blind Install by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    [DISCLAIMER : I work for sony and anything I say here is just personal stuff for hobbiests and please be warned about any damage to your hardware etc...]

    The blind install given above would work, but this is not necessary, if you call us up we'd help you through the setup. The current PS2 installation should work on the majority of the monitors out there, I know the sync is fixed at 60mhz and that was probably the oversight one of us made. But this would work on 95% of all the monitors out there and if your monitor was purchased after 95, this would work perfectly.

    For the rest, instead of following the blind install, please e-mail our support or call us, we'd fedex our to those who need it. Please understand that following the directions given on the link on this story might cause damage to your monitor, since all monitors are not alike. (But I've rarely come across such things in recent times).

    Also, we have a simple 3d wrapper for Quake that you can download from Bryan's page. Please see his weblog for more details. This wrapper would allow you to patch the existing _SDL_ version of the quake source to make it run on PS2. Enjoy hacking Q1 and PS2.

    On the issue of mouse droppings, you need to edit the video configuration and set XV_BUG_PS2FIX on in the Xconfig file. This was an oversight too and is fixed in the lastest pack we have. If your installing a custom distribution you need to do this as well.

    On debian, we tried to get their installer to work, but the maintaniners have been very rude to our questions and that's the reason why we don't have an intro to debian installation. If there are any debian power users who installs base fine, please send us an e-mail with the steps taken.

    Appercate your patience and goodwill.

    Wil
    Linux for ever ;)

    1. Re:On PS2 Blind Install by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oops forget the URL for SDL quake here it is. Thx

    2. Re:On PS2 Blind Install by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      We only guranttee patch work Sony monitors. Other monitor you see Monitor DB

      Mike Hirohito

    3. Re:On PS2 Blind Install by wmacgyver · · Score: 2, Informative

      uh. well, my Sony HMD-A400 19 inch monitor doesn't work with the kit. I understand why sync on green is necessary, and Sony has done a very good job making sure we know this. However, it's a bit more than "anything after 95 works fine"

  9. Re:Does Mozilla Run on PS2? by dsyu · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a thread on this over on the PS2-Linux community forum, although it looks like it ain't working yet. If anyone can help out, please do! I've been using Dillo on my PS2Linux, and it works fine, but isn't really an industrial-strength browser.

  10. Re:Good price for all this stuff? by fwitness · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep it is. I got my kit last Wednesday. However, it is only available from the sony website for $200 plus shipping. To be official, what you get is

    2 PS2 Linux DVDs
    1 40GB Hard Drive
    1 10/100 Ethernet Adaptor
    1 Sony Black USB Keyboard with 1 USB Port
    1 Sony Black USB 3 Button Mouse
    1 VGA Cable only for use with SYNC-ON-GREEN capable monitors

    1400 pgs of manuals in PDF form. These are assembly language manuals for the EE (emotion engine) core of the playstation. You get no printed versions of these, only install documentation)

    Remember, you have to add $25 to the cost for an extra memory card, as it will be formatted to contain your linux kernel.

    And I used the 'Blind-Install' with absolutely no problems. You simply must be a little careful. Hope this helps.

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  11. Re:Dead researchers. by Angry+Toad · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry everyone, I don't normally reply to my own posts, but after thinking about it for a bit I realized it would be irresponsible to have included a link to a crazy site like Vreeland's without also including a link to a sane analysis of why he is in fact a nutter.

    Here is a careful, balanced, and thoughtful examination of The 9-11 X-Files

  12. Re:Blind installs... for real? by rossz · · Score: 4, Informative

    The installer for SuSE detects the special hardware for the blind and uses it. As far as I know, it's the only distro that is blind friendly right from the start.

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  13. Use a real OS! by SIGFPE · · Score: 5, Informative

    it would be nice if every distro included a simple walk through like that for when a monitor just isn't handy :)

    Actually, OpenBSD has one on the CD liner with a printout of what you would be able to see if you had a monitor attached!
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  14. excuse me? by tps12 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The above was not a troll. .swf files are generated from .fla files. One format may be open, but the other (which has a lot more info) is not.

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    Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
  15. PS2 blind install was great! by rodionpunk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I also found out that alas -- my monitors did not support sync on green, so I was stuck in the same boat as many other folk: I was desperate to get Linux set up, but unable to use my monitor. The blind install was a god send.

    If you happen to have to run through the blind install, make sure that you select the appropriate display setting near the end. Without thinking, I put in display=pal, which naturally didn't work for me in the states. (Fortunately, they've ammended the doc to tell you to choose pal or ntsc; when I ran through it, it only listed pal.)

    The 320x240 resolution you get with a standard TV isn't flattering, making me long for an HTDV. *sigh* One can always dream.

    Was I the only one who, upon checking the forums at the Playstation 2 Linux site, found that a lot of the wrong types of people are getting this kit? I'm talking about the ones wondering why this is better than installing Linux on a PC, or who have never used Linux before. If you're a complete Linux newbie, the PS2 kit will be...frustrating.

  16. Re:.swf is a small part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  17. Dissappointments with the PS2 Linux Kit by CMiYC · · Score: 5, Informative

    So far I have to say I am probably on the disappointed side of the scale. First of all, there is a lack of quaility help with the kit. Why? Because, for example, www.playstation2-linux.com has been overrun by people who can't read. When purchasing the kit they failed to notice the pre-req's which said "SOG Monitor Required" and "a basic understanding of the Linux operating system." While this wouldn't be a large problem, it is making it hard to get support when you have a real issue. It seems everyday someone posts "I can't believe my montior doesn't work" or "Can I run Windows games on the PS2?" or someone posts "Why don't CDRs work?" Apparently none of these people know what a FAQ is.

    Right now I am sitting without a kit, but I'll get to that in a second.

    I pre-ordered my kit on March 7th. I received an email which I assumed to be the confirmation. In my email header it said: " Your PlayStation.com Order #711699 has been d." I even took a cursory look at the message and it looked just like a receipt from any other online store. What I failed to do was read the actual message. It was in fact telling me my credit card (for no apparent reason) was declined. I admit I should have read the message more closely, but it would have been nice if an actual confirmation didn't look exactly the same. I realized this error on May 25th.

    After finally receiving my kit I eagerly ripped everything open and got my PS2 hooked up. Having done my homework, I was very happy to see it talk nicely to my SOG compatible monitor. I even commented "wow, this is a really nice quality keyboard." So I threw in my Linux Disc 2 DVD since, again, I failed to read. This time it was pure excitement to blame. Disc 2 had placed in the disc holder on top, with Disc 1 below it. This was highly intitive.

    The install was going normally. After the RTE loads it looks just like a RedHat install. I got all the way up to the point of partitioning my hard drive. Being that I've been using Linux for longer than I can remember, I defaulted by selecting fdisk. After I was done I hit 'w' to write my table, and nothing happened. In fact the PS2 locked up. I couldn't believe it. So I rebooted. I very quickly found that the keyboard had failed, as it would no longer respond. Neither my Desktop (Mandrake) or my laptop (Win2k) would recognize it as a USB device. Of course this happened at 8:55pm. 5 minutes before all of the electronic stores in town closed.

    So the next morning I went to Fry's and bought a $20 USB keyboard. I came home and got Linux installed. Again this concept of reading got to me. The final dialog says something that reads like: "Press Enter, Put Disc 1 in, and reboot." So I did. I was greated to a hard drive FSCKing itself, a corrupted modules.conf, and an ethernet adapter that wouldn't init. So I re-installed. This time I read the screen more carefully. Apparently it is intiutively obvious that you are to wait 2-3 minutes while the system shuts down. It would have been nice if they let you see the shutdown progress (or told you to wait.) (I know I ragged people for not reading when they bought the kit, but I am willing to admit I should have read all of the above more carefully.)

    Finally my machine is up and running. I even have XMMS complied and installed. So I hook it up to my stereo, connect to it remotely, and mount a NFS share. I'm ready to listen to MP3s on my surround sound system for the first time ever. I launch XMMS and my PS2, again, freezes. After rebooting I am told I can't login because the system has lost power and is rebooting. Uh huh. So I login at the console and do a proper reboot. This time XMMS loaded without a hitch. It played exactly 1 mp3 and locked up again. This time I realized that it was not the PS2 locking up, but the network adapter. This is becoming a known problem at the aforementioned website.

    Finally, my last woe in this whole story. In order to replace my USB keyboard (BTW, all of the components come in their own retail boxes) I must return the entire kit. Yes, playstation.com is incapable of only replacing 1 component. They instead, insisit, I ship back the entire kit (at my cost) to get a keyboard replaced. How nice.

    If the network adapter issue isn't solved in the next 30 days, then I am going to sadly return the kit, as so far, it hasn't been worth $200.

  18. Re:This Doesn't Change Things by Watts+Martin · · Score: 4, Informative

    [Flash] takes control away from the user and places it in the hands of a "designer" who may not have any experience in building user interfaces.

    So does HTML. More abstractly, so does any user interface kit. The user isn't in charge of the way an application--or a web page--presents information to him; the designer is. It may indeed be better to put "designer" in quotes, but that doesn't change who has the power.

    Flash has lent itself to a lot of abuse, and Flash MX no doubt does, too. The difference is that Flash MX adds components for consistent user interface widgets if designers choose to use them, and it offers a lot more ability to pull data back from the server--in other words, to behave more like a real client application, as opposed to the broken model for HTML "applications" we currently have.

    Sure, if you give people multimedia design tools, a lot of people will design horrendous multimedia--for a while. Desktop publishing software enabled more people to quickly make absolutely horrendous typeset documents than ever before. Would you argue that it'd have been better if we'd stayed with lead type?

  19. Making TV text bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Have you turned on interlacing in the XGSconfig file? It makes the display a bit jittery but doubles the number of screen lines (on the PAL version anyway).

    Vik :v)

  20. RTFM by achurch · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find it odd that someone who even admits they have reading problems still insists on dumping all of the blame on Sony. I had no trouble at all setting up Linux on my PS2 (though admittedly I have the Japanese version; maybe somebody screwed something up for the US release).

    As far as the network adapter goes, I've had zero problems, even while doing a raw disk dump over the network. I do, on the other hand, recall splay locking up on me once or twice. Try setting the playback rate to 48000 Hz, since the PS2 Linux driver can't handle anything else natively, and see if that helps. This is also mentioned in the manual, by the way (at least the Japanese one).

    Also, when I had a keyboard problem—which just turned out to be me typing too fast for the keyboard's specs—I was able to send just the keyboard back to Sony and use the PS2 via Ethernet in the meantime. Maybe you didn't communicate clearly that it was just the keyboard that was defective?

  21. Re:Dead researchers. by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

    A couple things:

    1) It's Mike Ruppert, not Vreeland. Delmart "Mike" Vreeland is either a former Navy officer with a thing for identify theft and credit card fraud, or a Navy intelligence officer with some scary info, depending who you ask on which day. Ruppert loved the guy at first, but some of his more erratic behaviour and dodging is making him a bit wary.

    Ruppert is a former LA cop who was supposedly fired in 1978 while trying to expose CIA involvement in LA drug dealing activities. Journalist Gary Webb saw his career torn to shreds for reporting similar happenings a few years ago in the San Jose Mercury.

    2) Corn and Ruppert have an ongoing, somewhat nasty rivalry. The article you link elicited this response from Ruppert.

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    Someday, you're going to die. Get over it.