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ReplayTV Users Sue Hollywood

Seth Schoen writes "A group of ReplayTV 4000 users, led by Craigslist creator Craig Newmark, today sued a group of entertainment companies to establish that plaintiffs' use of the ReplayTV (including skipping commercials) is not illegal. The defendants are the same entertainment companies which have sued ReplayTV. Here the end users of the product are getting involved to defend the legitimacy of their activity in the face of allegations that skipping commercials is "theft". The plaintiffs are represented by Ira Rothken and EFF. The case is Newmark v. Turner, in the Central District of California (at Los Angeles). (Some people are calling it Craig v. Hollywood.)"

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  1. Craig vs. Hollywood? by Mr_Bethesda · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that anything like Joe vs. the Volcano?

    1. Re:Craig vs. Hollywood? by cnewmark · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's exactly like that, without the girl.

      Craig

    2. Re:Craig vs. Hollywood? by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      only hollywood has more hot gases coming out of it.

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    3. Re:Craig vs. Hollywood? by BamaSlam · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybee I can get that guy that drives thru my neighborhood in the middle of the night playing his car stereo at volumes high enough to wake the dead arrested for copyright infringement.

      Just a thought

  2. its too bad by davmct · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought Tuesdays were "screw the MPAA" day and Thursdays were "Oooh, Newline just released the LOTR Behind the Scenes DVD" party.

  3. Re:First thing, let's kill all the lawyers by Wiggin · · Score: 3, Funny

    i think it is just like skipping stones, it just requires more arm strength.

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  4. This oughta be good by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0, Funny

    By watching TV you are entering into a Hobbesian contract. They agree to show a show, you agree to watch the commercials. It's a concept as old as the Magna Carta. I can't wait until these self-delusional pirates are given the smackdown by a clueful judge.

  5. Re:I'd rather have product placement by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yea and it would really screw up the tribial persuit game.

    Question: What brand of cola was on the table during the 3rd episode of _Third Rock From the Sun_?

    A. Coke
    B. Pepsi
    C. Root Beer
    D. Depends on witch one payed more money this time
    E. All of the above

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  6. Browsing.... by imta11 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is browsing at +3 violating a contract with other slashdot users?

  7. Re:I'd rather have product placement by blankmange · · Score: 3, Funny
    Well, dammit -- which one is it??? Don't leave it just hanging there!!!!

    I say 'A'... no, 'B'......aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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  8. Re:Better for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is said that every time a Tivo skips past a 1-800-CALL-ATT commercial starring Carrot Top, an angel gets its wings.

  9. Re:What about snacks and VCRs? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Funny

    I generally use that time to take a big dump. Maybe the RIAA should sue my colon. If I know ahead of time, I can have taco bell for lunch and guarantee a large settlement.

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  10. Re:First thing, let's kill all the lawyers by eikonoklastes · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've seen some very small lawyers PASS some very large stones.

  11. Theft? by nochops · · Score: 5, Funny

    Skipping the commercials is theft?

    I guess if they can FORCE us to watch their commercials, then they don't have to be bothered with developing better, more captivating ways to get people to WANT to watch their commercials, and ultimately buy their products. Why don't they just skip the millions they spend in post-production of the commercials, and show a simple white background, with a huge black font, and static text like:

    BUY CELINE DION CDS

    for 30 seconds. I mean, if they can FORCE you to watch it, why spend all that extra dough trying to make WANT to watch it?

    I can just hear it now:

    "You veel vatch dees commercials, and LIKE THEM!"
    "You veel go out and buy de Celine Dion CDs!"

    I guess they're logic is: "We made a commercial, so if you don't like it enough to watch it, something must be wrong with you."

    I thought the whole idea of advertising was to make the product look appealing, so that people want to buy it. If people dont want to watch your commercial, then something's wrong with the commercial, not the people watching it. That's why I like websites like adcritic.com. you can (could) go there and watch the really creative, entertaining, and captivating commercials.

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  12. Once and for all... by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's time-shifting, with an "f"

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  13. Your trolling powers are weak, old man. by Lendrick · · Score: 5, Funny

    By watching TV you are entering into a Hobbesian contract.

    Excellent use of obscure terminology. The phrase Hobbesian contract makes you appear smart, because most readers don't know what a Hobbesian contract is. (Namely, an agreement to obey an authority as long as said authority does its duty.)

    They agree to show a show, you agree to watch the commercials. It's a concept as old as the Magna Carta.

    Citing historical documents. Excellent.

    I can't wait until these self-delusional pirates are given the smackdown by a clueful judge.

    Here's where you lose me. A skilled troll would have omitted this sentence, or at least softened the wording a bit. Referring to people who want to skip commercials (at last count, almost everyone) as "self-delusional pirates" is an obvious attempt at ruffling feathers.

    One other note: you probably should have written a few paragraphs and explained your ridiculous opinion in more detail. It's far more effective to progressively piss people off than hit them with one insult four sentences into your post.

    Final Grade: C

    Keep at it. You'll get there eventually.

  14. Re:What about snacks and VCRs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Has anyone thought about this...

    What happens if I change the channel to watch a different commercial at the same time? Do the advertisers sue each other over audience thievery?

  15. Re:I'd rather have product placement by davmct · · Score: 2, Funny

    Conversely, how would you try to fit in a tampax ad? blech, I don't even want to think about it...

  16. Tivo helps fight theft! by bobKali · · Score: 2, Funny
    But with a Tivo you can pause the commercials while you go to the bathroom, and thereby fulfill your commercial-watching obligation ala the Turner watching contract (that I suppose appears on your television for the first 1/1000 of a second when you turn it on:
    "...by watching the programming on this television you [the viewer of said programming] agree and are bound to watch all commercials [paid advertising used to support the creative GEINUSES who bring you this high-quality content] and occasionally buy products from our sponsers [the people who buy our commercials] ...."
  17. Re:Contract? by jdavidb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if I can get a clause in my contract that says I don't have to watch the ads for feminine hygiene products.

  18. Re:Interesting by jimm · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Hollywood.

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  19. Re:I'd rather have product placement by smnolde · · Score: 3, Funny

    None of the above!

    It's a dessert topping!

    No, a floor wax!
    No, a dessert topping!
    Floor wax!

    It might get this bad.

  20. Bathroom TV - all commercials, all the time by wytcld · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's space shift and put the commercials in the bathroom. Just have a little flat screen and a speaker next to the toilet with a motion sensor, and then whatever commercials are associated with the programming you watch start scrolling when you enter the room. Put a pressure sensor on the toilet seat, and appropriately themed adverts could play as you sit down. Get one of those fancy Japanese toilets that perform instant stool analysis, feed that back to the sponsors to help them determine your medical and dietary needs and vices, and get hours of special bonus viewing! Install a proctoscope and get even more!
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  21. Re:Commercials are a necessity. by stubear · · Score: 4, Funny

    If companies didn't market their products there would be no product awareness by the consumer and they wouldn't know to buy the product.