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Slashback's amplifications and updates tonight include more on Best Buy's worst practices for data security, how the proposed Federal government restructuring will affect Lawrence Livermore labs,a long-overdue Maglev for those of us outside France or Japan, and even more on building Nixie-tube toys. Read on for the details.

Fancy titles attract bigger budgets. SeanAhern writes: "Following up on last week's Slashdot article about LLNL's role in the new Department of Homeland Security, it turns out that LLNL will not change its role or change hands. Instead, LLNL may become a 'center for excellence,' essentially taking on a research role for the new Department. More information can be found in a couple of articles around the press."

Why not just shout it cashier-to-cashier? jqcoffey writes: "A while ago it was discovered that Best Buy was using wireless LANs to transmit cash register data back to accounting servers. The problem was it was UN-encrypted data. They turned them off for a while and now, according to this Computerworld story, they are back on."

Maglev for the Maglevians! LighthouseJ writes: "The Hampton Roads Virginia paper, the Pilot recently reported that my current school, Old Dominion University, recently installed the very first maglev train in the United States on the elevated track already built the previous school year. This train won't go that fast (40 mph) compared to the bullet trains that travel at 300 mph, but at the same token, it won't be traveling that far. The service has been scheduled to start September 1st.

There is some information I have about the maglev that's not mentioned. First, the school is in a rectangle, with the maglev built in the center length-wise. It connects the main campus with the new construction happening across the major road, Hampton Rd and has 3 stations planned now with more to come as the track may extend in the future. They are building more housing, education and meeting places, and the maglev will facilitate safe transportation across that road for students and faculty."

Can this really be the first Mag-lev train in the U.S.? A nifty project regardless.

When a Rolex just isn't good enough. fixitsan2 writes: "I know this thread has been gone over before, when it appeared at the start of February, but ironically, about the same time as the thread ended a group was started on Yahoo!. Not only was it a fast-growing newsgroup, but the technical standard is extremely high. Covering all aspects of building nixie tube clocks as well as other nixie devices including safe power generation, and all display methods from direct drive to multiplexing, as well as lots of circuits and tube sources.

A quick look at the welcome page will give you a fuller idea of what gets discussed."

194 comments

  1. Backyard maglev by CanadaDave · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I made a Maglev train in my backyard.

    Check it out here

    If it's down, then it's probably been slashdotted.

    1. Re:Backyard maglev by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 2

      Must have missed the maglev part, or you are doing something amazing to pull it off with no electric wiring on the track, and 2 -12 volt batteries!

    2. Re:Backyard maglev by kaimiike1970 · · Score: 2

      Not a maglev, but that is an awesome acomplishment! Now if only you can talk your neighbors into adding on to the system!

      --


      Do a google search before posting.
    3. Re:Backyard maglev by CanadaDave · · Score: 2

      I don't need batteries. It's all done with permanent magnets and jet propulsion. I figured if a kid can build a nuclear reactor in his backyard, I should be able to build a Maglev.

    4. Re:Backyard maglev by CanadaDave · · Score: 2

      I don't think they'll go for it. It's already caused my property to lose half it's value! I'm getting kind of tired of driving that thing in circles too. I may turn it into a roller coster as soon as I get some time.

    5. Re:Backyard maglev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Must...refrain from...Simpson's...quotes...arrggghh!

    6. Re:Backyard maglev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is it me, or did this get /.ed a while back?? it seems more than familiar, and also, if you go into the technical notes...what are the wheels and stuff doing there, i see no evidence of any magnetic levitation happening

    7. Re:Backyard maglev by CanSpice · · Score: 1
      I made a Maglev train in my backyard.

      Nice, except that you didn't. A Maglev train is magnetically levitational, and you can't get this by building a track out of wood. Unless you've found some way to make wood magnetic and didn't mention it on your "building of the monorail" pages.
    8. Re:Backyard maglev by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 1

      With perm magnets? Holy crap, how much did that cost? I bought some strong magnets a couple months ago and they were around $15 a piece for a small cube. Take a second mortgage out on your home? What perm magnet did you buy?

    9. Re:Backyard maglev by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      I can't view the page now, but maybe he mentioned aluminum on the track. Permanent magnets on the train are repelled by aluminum when the speed gets above a certain point (about 20 MPH). The magnets induce an electrical pattern on the aluminum which creates a repulsive magnetic field.

  2. Nixie tubes at IEEE Spectrum Magazine by CanadaDave · · Score: 3, Informative
    There was a great article in the latest IEEE Spectrum magazine on Nixie tube clocks. Fortunately for you nixie-heads out there, it is also available online:

    http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/publicfeature / un02/nixi.html

    1. Re:Nixie tubes at IEEE Spectrum Magazine by Tomble · · Score: 1
      Thanks for this, I decided to read this story as it was the first I'd actually heard of a Nixie, and I was hoping some post somewhere would help to explain what one actually was...

      So are these Nixies still made? It sounds as though most of the people doing stuff with them are reclaiming old ones from scrap and things. And do they only have ones with numbers on? I suddenly have hankering for a Nixie terminal display!!

      I especially liked the bit in the article about the bloke who made an alarm clock with them- considering how the tubes apparently run off ~200V, and the old cliches about the way most people turn their alarms off when they wake them in the morning...

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      Be careful! New moon tonight.
    2. Re:Nixie tubes at IEEE Spectrum Magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do nixie tubes correlate with
      dead letters?

      nixie is a post office term for dead letter

  3. Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by tm2b · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That makes me really, really glad that I refuse to sign Best Buy's electronic signature pads and tell them to let me sign paper instead.

    I know about the arguments that claim that it's just as easy to steal a receipt or carbons, but making it as easy as pulling up front with a wireless card? No, thanks. And yes, I do shred my receipts when I'm done with them.

    --
    "It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
    1. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by CanadaDave · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Your level of paranoia is a little strange, and somewhat contradictory. If you are doing any signing whatsoever, then that must mean you are using credit cards; however, credit cards are probably the most insecure method of exchanging money in the world today, after cash of course. All someone needs is your name, credit card number and the expiry date, and they are home free. Forget about the signature. Gas stations no longer require signatures if you "pay at the pump," nor do on-line retaileres. If you really want to be safe, get rid of your credit cards. Use debit cards. Or if you feel that your PIN may be transmitted insecurely over the air waves (which it wouldn't be in Best Buy's case), your last resort is to use cash.

      You also assume that someone is willing to reconstruct your signature into an image from some garbled-looking digital information. And then they have to learn how to copy your signature at least decently (which would be hard to do, because your signature would probably be pretty messy. Have you ever tried writing on those pads? It's a bitch). Which brings me to another point. Do you think those 15 year old cashiers even look at your hand-written signature to see if it is yours? Not likely. So even if someone got a hold of your credit card, they wouldn't need to have parked outside with a 802.11 card and a laptop and sophisticated software to learn your signature...they could just put anything on the dotted line and the cashiers wouldn't blink!

    2. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by jkusar · · Score: 4, Informative

      This second paragraph makes a very good point. In fact, at many of the retailers near me, you don't even have to hand them the credit card, you can just swipe it yourself.

      My boss often gives me his credit card to make purchases. The only time I've ever been asked was when I was trying to write his name on the slip. I usually just sign my own name and they hand the card right back. I've even used several ladies cards and never been asked. And I know I don't look like a Kimberly!!

      Oh well, at least most cards have a zero-liability guarantee for unauthorized charges.

      --Jason
      "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried!"

    3. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by soulsteal · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you really want to be safe, get rid of your credit cards. Use debit cards.

      Whoa there buddy. Back the truck up some.

      Credit cards have laws protecting holders against fraudulant charges up to $50 dollars (I think.) Debit cards just allow the thieves direct access to your personal savings without limit. Sure, you can contest the charges, but it's a hell of a time to get the money back.

      At least with credit cards, you can contest the charges BEFORE your money's missing.

    4. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by random735 · · Score: 1

      [My boss often gives me his credit card to make purchases. The only time I've ever been asked was when I was trying to write his name on the slip. I usually just sign my own name and they hand the card right back. I've even used several ladies cards and never been asked. And I know I don't look like a Kimberly!!]

      Is your boss a woman? or are you? (HIS credit card..but his/her name is Kimberly?)

    5. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this confusing? The poster is a male. HIS boss. I don't look like a kimberly, etc.

    6. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Yohahn · · Score: 4, Informative

      Almost right. If I remember correctly, debit cards make the owner liable for the first 500$ stolen. Credit cards make the owner liable for the first 50$ stolen.

      You have a lot more to risk with a debit card.

      Details here:
      http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/news /cnsprg 98/crook.html

    7. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "That makes me really, really glad that I refuse to sign Best Buy's electronic signature pads..."

      I'm not worried. Every time I sign on one of those things, it looks NOTHING like my signature.

      (serious! go try it! it's like signing a glide point!)

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    8. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Yohahn · · Score: 1
    9. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by swb · · Score: 2

      Is the debit card liability limit a federal or widespread state law, or merely the banking industry's halfhearted attempt to convince people they're safe to use?

      My bank sent me a debit card about 5 years ago, live, pre-activated without my authorization. I wouldn't accept it because I consider them dangerous -- it's too easy to see one's cash drained and then a long and difficult period of fighting with the bank over what charges are legit and what aren't.

      At least with a credit card its the bank's money and they have a real interest in seeing that the fraud is investigated. When it's MY money that's gone, nobody has an interest in it but me.

    10. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by mbadolato · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you think those 15 year old cashiers even look at your hand-written signature to see if it is yours?

      Years ago when I worked in retail, I used to check the signatures. I used to make people show me their id if the signature area on the card was not signed.

      I used to LOVE when people would comment "But if I sign it, then if someone finds my card they can see how to copy my signature!". Really? Nice try fucknut, but if you leave it blank and someone finds your card, they can sign it in their own handwriting and not have to go through the hassle of learning to copy yours.

      That ususally resulted in them giving the "oops, didn't quite think of it that way" sigh, followed by them signing the card....

      Maybe readers of /. do that too, and if so, i would love to hear a legitimate reason for leaving the strip blank (Note, blank, not writing "CHECK MY ID" in the space).

    11. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Compulawyer · · Score: 2
      He is NOT paranoid and I follow the same practice of always signing on paper. In the US, the federal statutes limit liability for credit card fraud to $50 if you report fraud or a lost card within a reasonable time after its discovery. For debit cards, the statutory protections do not apply but most banks will contractually limit your liability to $50 is the account agreement.

      The method may be insecure, but in this case there are external safeguards to mitigate the risk. If you sign on paper, then it is easy to prove a signature is not yours. Good luck proving that digital signature is a copy and that you did not actually sign the pad.

      Besides, you know the saying -- If you aren't paranoid, you just don't know what is going on.

      --

      Laws affecting technology will always be bad until enough techies become lawyers.

    12. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by tm2b · · Score: 2

      Hardly. I used to work in the credit card industry (my company was acquired by Red Hat in early 2000).

      Personally, I don't care about whether anybody uses my signature for credit card fraud. My exposure is much larger to other kinds of fraud, which a stolen signature would open up.

      As others mentioned, credit cards have statutory limits on the user's exposure to fruad - debit cards, on the other hand, are covered by regulations covers forged checks. Additionally, contesting charges is a much more difficult process than with credit cards.

      Signatures are valuable in far more realms than credit cards - they are the only legal authentication for many kinds of legally binding documents and I, for one, don't care to have someone else learn to sign my signature.

      Paranoid? Perhaps, but I have a good amount to lose. I only have to be a little more paranoid than others with large exposure - "I don't have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you."

      --
      "It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
    13. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by random735 · · Score: 1

      "my boss gives me HIS credit card"

      thus implying his BOSS is a male. (until later indicating his boss' name is kimberly)

    14. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by random735 · · Score: 1

      nevermind, didn't realize he was referring to two separate incidents (one in which he pretended to be his boss, others in which he pretended to be a lady).

    15. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by cetan · · Score: 1

      What part of the "I've even used..." doesn't make sense to you? It was obvious to me from the use of the word "even" that we were no longer talking about his male boss.

      --
      In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
    16. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Initially the debit card liability limit was the banking industry's attempt as you describe. I don't know that it's Federal Law yet either, although I suspect so since Clark Howard stopped campaigning against them on air.

      Even so, you still have a lot more to lose with a debit card. Someone steals your credit card? Report it stolen, pay $50, fini. Your credit report isn't impacted, you get a new card, life moves on.

      Someone steals your debit card? Now you're screwed. Sure, you can report it stolen and only be liable for $50, but that money is gone from your account and the bank has up to 10 business days (M-F) to restore it. Hope you don't need any cash for those 10 days. Or to write a check. Or have any bills already in the mail. Because there's nothing you can do - except maybe borrow cash from a credit card and pay those exorbitant finance rates. If a check bounces then you get hit on your credit report, along with getting hit with additional fees. Get them reimbursed? Maybe. Depends on your bank - they aren't under any requirement to reimburse you those fees. And how much more paperwork is that going to be?

      Fact of the matter is, no matter what your bank says, credit cards are still safer than debit cards. If you can't handle a credit card and keep spending yourself into debt, fine, use a debit. But otherwise avoid them like the plague -- they're only good for the bank. Not for you.

    17. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but debit cards cost merchants more to handle than credit cards, even when they are from the same network. Most merchants are required to accept debit cards are part of their contract for accepting credit cards. But, there is an ongoing lawsuit by a trade organization against the credit card issuers like Visa and Mastercard to break that contract based on monopoloy abuse of power by the issuers. Here's to hoping that the trade org wins, making it that much less desirable to use a debit card.

      FWIW, the only people who should use debit cards are those who really, really, really suck at handling debt and have probably already destroyed their credit rating so that they are unable to get a true credit card anyway and debit cards are their only option. Anyone else is just shooting themselves in the financial foot by using a debit card over a credit card - at the very least you are losing out on the interest on the float that a credit card user gets.

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
    18. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by flink · · Score: 1

      Or you can write CHECK ID in permanent marker on the sig area. A good clerk will then ask for a picture ID.

    19. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by CanadaDave · · Score: 2
      "Signatures are valuable in far more realms than credit cards"

      Then why do you go about signing credit card receipts (which I assume you do because you make no other assumption otherwise in your post), when the signature is so valuable, and is the "only legal authentication for many kinds of legally binding documents"? Sorry, that's where I lose you. Any old cashier could take your signature if they wanted. So please, explain your point more clearly for me...if in fact I am missing your point.

    20. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by CanadaDave · · Score: 2
      Can they get your signature anyways? Whether it's on paper or not? Why go to the trouble of sniffing an 802.11 transmission? Why not just grab your wallet and look at the signatures on the backs of your credit cards, etc.

      Wow, you Americans must have it pretty lucky down there if you are only limited to $50 for credit cards. I've known people who have lost thousands. Although I have no idea what time frame they reported the stolen card in, so it's moot anyways.

    21. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      You're missing the key difference (which isn't really big, just the difference that I was trying to point out). That is, that you can avoid this whole signature thing by using a debit card. Sure there are other problems with debit cards, but it seems to me that if you are paranoid about someone sniffing 802.11 signals and getting your signature in digital format, using a debit card might not be a bad idea for you. It would be tougher to find your your PIN compared to your signature.

    22. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by CanadaDave · · Score: 1
      The $50 thing doesn't come into play if you report it stolen a week later. :-)

      And laws are different in different countries. Not everyone here is American.

    23. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by zenyu · · Score: 2

      Signatures are valuable in far more realms than credit cards - they are the only legal authentication for many kinds of legally binding documents and I, for one, don't care to have someone else learn to sign my signature.

      Yep, I use a distinctly different signature for credit cards as opposed to contracts. It doesn't directly protect me legally, but if I were said I signed a contract I didn't and it looked like the chicken scratch I use on credit cards and every other document signed looked drastically different I think a jury might at least entertain the thought it wasn't mine. I still could have signed it fraudulently to begin with, but they would have that hill to climb rather than the, "he just changed his mind after the fact."

      I don't worry so much about credit cards. I've had friends get a lot of grief because of identity theft, but it always got sorted out in the end. Plus, credit cards have protected me from unscrupulous merchants. It involves organizing a bit of documentation, but it's fun to nail the bad guys.

    24. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by orange7 · · Score: 1

      Or they're foreigners working in the States with no credit record. I've been here for five years, currently have a pretty good income, and I would still get turned down for any credit card I applied for, 'cause I've never been in debt here.

      Credit cards are only cheaper in the US because it's in the interest of the financial institutions for them to be so. Most people fuck up enough with them at some point that the bank winds up making money off it. It only takes a missed payment or two.

      If what you said was really true for the average US citizen, debit cards would be cheaper in terms of up-front costs.

      A.

    25. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by SignoffTheSourcerer · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of my local bank, where I have to use a crappy signature pad mounted almost out of reach, 30 cm above the counter and vertically. Signing this 320x200 resolution crap with a stylus the size of a felt-tip marker, connected with something as stiff as STP cable. They would probably be better off, offering me a chisel and a hammer, since that thing is sure not going to represent my signature well.

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    26. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by orange7 · · Score: 1

      If you actually read that page, you'll see this:

      > Fortunately for consumers, though, VISA and MasterCard have voluntarily limited debit card
      > liability to the same $50 limit that exists for credit cards.

      So you should only worry if your debit card can be used as a pseudo-credit card, with signature only and no PIN, *and* it's not MC/VISA. I'm not aware of any such cards, but doubtless there are some out there.

      Also, with ATM cards (or d/c card used as an ATM card), the limit is $50 if you report the card theft within two days, $500 otherwise. Anything stolen after you report the theft is covered regardless.

      A.

    27. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by nexex · · Score: 2
      my father has 'check id' written in that space, he says that he has only been asked once for id when using the card. I belive it was at the phoenix zoo...

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      Winter 2010: With Glowing Hearts
    28. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by sporktoast · · Score: 2

      Is your boss a woman? or are you? (HIS credit card..but his/her name is Kimberly?)
      Perhaps this man is his boss.
      --
      In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted as a gambling loss.
    29. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Compulawyer · · Score: 2
      If they grab paper, they have to go through the trouble of forging the signature. Even the most careful tracing can be detected by a good handwriting analyst. A digital signature on the other hand is susceptible to being copied perfectly limitless times.

      Even tough this thread started with sniffing wireless transmissions, we both know that these electronic signatures have to be stored somewhere and that storage medium has to be connected to a computer which most likely is attached to a network .... well, you see where this is going. You may recall that a while back a cell phone company here (Verizon) had trouble keeping its customers confidential information confidential. I don't want to find out that in addition to my credit card #, name, address, telephone number, social security number, date of birth, etc. that now someone has an exact, freely reproducible copy of my real signature. My signature is my last line of protection.

      --

      Laws affecting technology will always be bad until enough techies become lawyers.

    30. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by smatthew · · Score: 1

      There are actually stores out there that will refuse to take cards that have "Check ID" written in instead of a signature.

      My solution? I Sign it and write "Please Check ID". Know what happens if you don't either a) compare signatures or b) check my id? I ask for the manager and do my best to get you fired.

      On the other hand - I bough some shoes last weekend and the girl checked my id and compared my signature. Was quite thorough about it. So I wrote a letter to the store thanking them and her.

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    31. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It would be tougher to find your your PIN compared to your signature.

      Of course the big question is, does your PIN go over the 802.11 link too. From reading the article, my impression is that 802.11 is only used for "wireless temporary cash registers." In that case I suspect your debit card number and PIN are broadcast un-encrypted, which in my opinion makes it more of a security risk.

    32. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      My boss often gives me his credit card to make purchases.

      Smart move! Then your boss can tell the credit card company, "I didn't make this purchase! This isn't my signature!" and not have to pay his credit card bill.


    33. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by JWhitlock · · Score: 2
      Maybe readers of /. do that too, and if so, i would love to hear a legitimate reason for leaving the strip blank (Note, blank, not writing "CHECK MY ID" in the space).

      Actually, this is probably wrong - "CHECK MY ID" is not a valid signature. I say probably, because I can only find a few passing references, such as this one (look at item 7). The problem is, your signature on the back of the credit card acts as a legal signature on the contract saying that you will pay any charges made with the card. Without the signature, the transaction doesn't have the legal authority.

      99 times out of 100, the clerk will not look at your card, or ask you to see the ID. That one time, however, the clerk will refuse to take an unsigned card, and you'll call the manager, and the manager will say "That's store policy, sign the card", and you'll have to sign or use cash.

      However, it does seem perfectly legal to sign the card, and then write "CHECK MY ID" after the signature or under it. That is small comfort, because most credit card thieves will use your card where an ID is not required (like online), or make some convincing looking fake IDs with your name and their picture before going on their shopping spree at Best Buy.

    34. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by j-beda · · Score: 2
      Not only that, but debit cards cost merchants more to handle than credit cards, even when they are from the same network.

      I am not sure that that is the case. My understanding is the compelte opposite. I think that some banks are even encouraging people (by way of sweepstakes and other incentives) to get into the habit of "signing" for their debit card purchases. Basically, most debit cards that cary a credit card logo (MasterCard or Visa) can be processed either as a debit card by way of a PIN or as a credit card by way of a signature. When processed as a credit card, the merchant pays the credit card rates (maybe 2% plus a minimum?) and when processed as a debit card the merchant pays the debit card rate (maybe a flat $0.25 or something like that?). The issuers of course want the largest chunk of change from the merchants.

      Now where did I read this? Consumer Reports?

      Around here (Southern Ontario) almost everyone accepts debit cards including the corner store since they cost so little to process, while fewer places are set up for credit cards.

    35. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      Here's one news article on the lawsuit:

      http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid =Y L4W0T3FLACMCCRBAE0CFFAKEEATGIWD?type=businessnews& StoryID=1070303

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    36. Re:Best Buy Electronic Signature pads... by jkusar · · Score: 1

      heehee, sorry about the confusion. My boss is a man, as am I. But Kimberly is just another person that I borrow a card from occasionaly and use.

  4. BestBuy by phyberop · · Score: 1

    We don't have bestbuy her (UK), but from all their problems, its a wonder people still shop there

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    I'm anispeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
    1. Re:BestBuy by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "We don't have bestbuy her (UK), but from all their problems, its a wonder people still shop there..."

      That's because those of us that are satisfied Best Buy customers don't want to argue with people who require a salesman to show them which Compaq to buy. You can imagine how that convo'd go, right?

      "That stupid Best Buy salesman had no idea what a hard-drive is!"

      "err, why did you need a Best Buy salesman to tell you what a hard drive is?"

      "STFU!"

      "Hey! All I'm saying is..."

      "Look those salesman making $8 should know everything there is to know about what I want! I mean if they don't know what a hard drive is, why are they selling there anyway?"

      "Fair enough, but if you know so much about what you're looking for, why do you need their help?"

      From there the f word is used alot. Heh. You can see why none of us want to rush to Best Buy's defense. Most of the reasoning I've heard so far is typical of any retailer, not just Best Buy. They just had their bad straw drawn at Best Buy.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    2. Re:BestBuy by geekoid · · Score: 2

      way to sterotype.
      I do not need to know what a hard drive is, or how to change one, but a great many people do, and BestBuy Technical people should at least know the basics, but they can seldom answer basic HD questions. A good example of this is when I went to one a few years ago, and want to purchase a 10G HD. I asked the guy behind the technical counter if they had any, he said "No we only have 8 Gig hard drives, but since windows can't partion above 8Gig, so it doesn't matter"
      I said "Its not for Windows"
      with a smug attitide. he said "No operating system can see a hard disk larger then 8 Gig"
      At which point I just turned and left.

      Send data unencrypted is a nother perfectly valid camplaint against best buy.
      As is there secuity methods.

      Of course this is the same place that told me HDTV can store twice as much data then a CD.
      I still haven't figured that one out.

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    3. Re:BestBuy by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "with a smug attitide. he said "No operating system can see a hard disk larger then 8 Gig"

      You have really high expectations of a guy who makes $8 an hour.

      I mean seriously, I used to be a salesman, I know for a fact his job is not to be knowledgable. His job is to make sure you leave money behind before you leave the store. You should never depend on 'expert' advice from the guy that you are buying from. Nobody has ever gotten a BS degree and went on to sell computers.

      If you need to know what type of RAM your computer uses, look it up. If you need to know whether or not you want a Radeon or a Geforce, then go to www.tomshardware.com. If you want to know which way to the hard-drive aisle, then you may ask the guy in the blue shirt.

      I'm not telling you this to say "You're dumb and you don't know how to shop at Best Buy...", I'm telling you this because no retail chain trains their salespeople to dispense facts, only incentives to buy. Take any of these stories about Best Buy, go through in Notepad and replace 'Best Buy' with 'Circuit City', and guess what, you get a believable story.

      The only knowledgable sales people I've ever met sold video games.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    4. Re:BestBuy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'I said "Its not for Windows"
      with a smug attitide. he said "No operating system can see a hard disk larger then 8 Gig"
      At which point I just turned and left.'

      At which point id have punched you in your arrogant nose... youre a tecno snob of the type i love running rings around - i have a best friend like you - thinks he knows it all...

      Man you must feel real superior giving shit to minimum wage employees - how did you learn about this linux shit anyway ? ahh i see someone told you about it ...

      Some evangelist for open source you are.

    5. Re:BestBuy by Tottori · · Score: 1
      "We don't have bestbuy her (UK), but from all their problems, its a wonder people still shop there..."
      Yeah, but we do have Dixons, Comet, Currys, etc. and they operate similarly. What's disturbing is that people from my parents' generation seem to have a deep-seated expectation that the salespeople really will know what they're talking about, so they tend to get taken in in spite of themselves.

      The only thing we don't have in the UK is the whole receipt-checking thing. I've seen the alarms go off in many stores in the UK, and most of the time noone pays it any notice. I'd like to believe that UK shoppers wouldn't stand for indiscriminate bag searches, but I'm not really that optimistic.

      --
      use constant PERL_IS_BROKEN => $] >= 5.006;
    6. Re:BestBuy by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2
      My local PC World has a big sign on the door (big as in about 3' by 2') saying "Please do not bring bags into the store", clearly visible, and in PC World red and yellow colours.
      If you bring a bag in, the security guy will ask you to leave it in the car, or leave it with him. Seems fair enough, doesn't it?


      By contrast, my friendly neighbourhood PC shop will let you wander through the back and rob them blind, so long as you come in with the cash in the next few days...

    7. Re:BestBuy by Tottori · · Score: 1
      My local PC World has a big sign on the door (big as in about 3' by 2') saying "Please do not bring bags into the store", clearly visible, and in PC World red and yellow colours.
      Wow. I haven't seen that here, but then I haven't been to PC World a year or so. I guess we're screwed after all. I'm sure somebody somewhere is happy that we have the same levels of customer abuse worldwide.
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      use constant PERL_IS_BROKEN => $] >= 5.006;
    8. Re:BestBuy by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "What's disturbing is that people from my parents' generation seem to have a deep-seated expectation that the salespeople really will know what they're talking about..."

      Heh it's funny because the term 'Salesman' implies "Man who sells", as opposed to "Man who knows what he's talking about."

      Sometimes they hide the fact by calling them 'advisors'. They all do the same thing, though: They make sure you buy something.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  5. Shenmue 2 by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 1

    When we get Shenmue 2 state site, or for anyone who has played the Japanese or European versions, take a look at the numeric display in the elevators. It appears to simulate Nixie tubes.

  6. Best Buy isn't the only one by jkusar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was amazed when my friend showed me all of the places that have unsecured networks. For example, the FedEx building next door to where he works has such a powerful broadcast that if you stand by a window in his office, you can pick up their network.

    A simple drive around town, and you can pick up 15 to 20 unencrypted and unsecured networks. Not to mention all of the ones that use cheesy WEP encryption that is really not that hard to break. When are people gonna learn...?

    --Jason
    "I used to have a sig, but it took up too much space so I got rid of it!"

    1. Re:Best Buy isn't the only one by rworne · · Score: 1
      I wrote a paper and did a presentation in grad school on wireless network security in North Los Angeles. I used real data too.

      Me, my car, a GPS and a Vaio laptop running Netstumbler.

      I came up with real scary numbers of unsecured sites, especially around the commercial/office areas of the West San Fernando Valley.

      --
      I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
  7. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by captain_craptacular · · Score: 1

    It was posted earlier this week. Look before you talk.

    --
    They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security
  8. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was a different story.

  9. If I had a maglev... by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

    I wish there was a Maglev in Boston... grr, the T sucks. It even stops for cars and traffic lights on the green line! Does anyone else know of a subway that ass backwards? Maglev would sure speed up my trip from Allston to Back Bay...

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    Tibbon
    tibbon.com
    1. Re:If I had a maglev... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you also forgot the nice horn that they have they just blare it a few times and play chicken with the driver in question... its very effective. And anyway its still faster than driving through rush hour traffic.

    2. Re:If I had a maglev... by phoxix · · Score: 1
      I'll have to agree with the poster

      For spring break my friends and I decided to head over to boston (lovely lovely city). When we saw the T (and all 4 colors), we were a little shocked. Coming from New York City with one of the world's largest subway systems, we do know quite a bit about train transportation in major metro areas. But the T was like nothing we expected.

      Sunny

    3. Re:If I had a maglev... by Reverberant · · Score: 1

      The Green Line is a light rail transit (LRT) system. LRT systems, by definition (as least according to APTA) run at street level and are designed to move with local traffic. As a consequence, LRT trains often stop for cars and traffic lights.

      You find the same thing on LRT lines in Portland, Pittsburgh, San Francisco (MUNI, not BART), St. Louis, Dallas, etc.

      The Red and Orange lines in Boston (and NYC's subway system) are rapid transit lines that run on exclusive rights-of-way with minimal headways. That may be a little closer to what you were expecting.

    4. Re:If I had a maglev... by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

      Good point, I am from DC, and the subways were nothing like the Green line, more like the Red ( I didn't go on the orange except for 1 transfer...

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      Tibbon
      tibbon.com
    5. Re:If I had a maglev... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i happen to travel on the green line practically every day over the summer, and it is the one branch which doesn't have to deal with traffic, but it's still slow. the green line in general is outdated: the cars are not nice, especially in the mornings when they're crammed with commuters, and they're slow. thus i find it very annoying

    6. Re:If I had a maglev... by flink · · Score: 1

      Nothing short of divine intervention could shorten the commute from Alston to Back Bay :-S

  10. I built one by ArchieBunker · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I bought an etched board from one site for $25 and found a piece of equipment sitting out for the trash at the local university which had 6 nixies complete with sockets. About $20 in parts from digikey and I was in business. As long as the power company can keep a good 60hz sinewave the clock should be accurate. The only issue with nixies is they do have a finite lifespan like all neon lamps. Keep the current draw as low as you can to make them last longer. Eventually the glass will turn black and the digits will flicker and get dim.

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    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  11. UN-encrypted by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

    so is that data not encrypted, or is encrypted by the evil socialist conspiricy that is the United Nations?

    1. Re:UN-encrypted by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      Wait. I thought it was an evil capitalist conspiracy.

  12. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by HyperbolicParabaloid · · Score: 2

    It appears that you are full of shit, and it is exactly the same story here. The same company (ISS), and the same observation that their "patch" doesn't fix the problem.
    The MSNBC article is typically light on details, but it certainly appears to be exactly what Slashdot reported.

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    A person of moderate zeal
  13. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you talking about? That's not the same article! Jesus. Read them both before slamming me...

  14. Would it be illegal... by EvanED · · Score: 1

    to snoop some names and stuff from the transmissions? You're not bypassing any security features...

    I think the way to deal with this is to come up with a big list of what people have bought at these places, print them out, and mail them to the CEO saying "you might want to fix this."

    1. Re:Would it be illegal... by Profe55or+Booty · · Score: 1

      i'm no expert on anything... but i believe the rule is you have to have their permission. not just not be blocked out.

      --
      sig - .
    2. Re:Would it be illegal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because someone leaves their doors and windows unlocked and opened doesn't give you the right to go walking into their house and snooping around. It's called privacy.

    3. Re:Would it be illegal... by ethereal · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, if someone is flinging their private business info out of the windows by the handful onto the street below, you can hardly be blamed for reading any that fell to the street.

      If Best Buy didn't want their info read, they shouldn't broadcast it to all and sundry. Likewise with DirecTV, etc. I resist any and all attempts to stop me from intercepting radio signals that are being beamed into my head as we speak :)

      --

      Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and

    4. Re:Would it be illegal... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      A better analogy would be (if you don't like the one ethereal provided) "just because someone leaves their blinds open doesn't give you the right to use binoculars to look through their windows and see what's in their house."

      But really, the two things are governed by completely different laws, so just because snooping around someone's house is illegal doesn't mean casual intercepting is illegal.

      Granted, I suspect that if you actually had to decrypt anything, you'd have a much harder case. But who's to say you weren't just running around with a laptop, a wireless card, and a packet sniffer?

    5. Re:Would it be illegal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that would obviously be illegal.

    6. Re:Would it be illegal... by browman · · Score: 1

      Technically, I don't think so! It's like overhearing a conversation on a radio scanner. You're perfectly within your rights to listen, but as soon as you act on any information you've recieved, you're breaking the law.

      I believe the case was tested out in the UK some time ago, the police wanted to crack down on people using scanners, so they invented a UFO sighting in some nearby woods, and spoke freely about it on their radios (before they were encrypted). They promptly arrested everyone who turned up to watch.

      --
      You fool! You've given cheese to a lactose intolerant volcano god! Do you know what that means?
    7. Re:Would it be illegal... by Sherloqq · · Score: 1

      I guess it would all depend on what the frequency of that particular system was. Certain frequencies (such as the analog cellphone spectrum) are illegal to snoop on, others have no such rules associated with them. If you were snooping on a frequency which is not regulated in this manner, you should be OK, since in the US anything not explicitly forbidden is allowed (until, naturally, someone sets a precedent).

      --
      Have EVDO, will travel.
    8. Re:Would it be illegal... by Theonewhois · · Score: 1

      I'm not entirely certain, but I'm fairly sure that it's not illegal (yet) to recieve such data. What I am sure of is that the moment you try to USE that data, you've just commited, say, credit card fraud, which is a felony carrying some years of jail time for each count.

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      Common sense is what tells us that the world is flat
    9. Re:Would it be illegal... by Mr+Guy · · Score: 1

      FCC Regulation. Your device was legally required to accept Best Buy's interference.
      Look for this:
      ---
      This device complies with Part 15 of FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions:
      (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) This device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.

      ---

    10. Re:Would it be illegal... by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

      Better example would be:

      Even if your neighbors have their door locked and the lights turned off, it would not be illegal for you to stand across the street, and watch them having sex while they are pressed against their large picture window in their living room.

  15. Best Try is a joke by peterdaly · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few months ago I went to Best Try's site at 4 in the afternoon to be greeded by a "running maintainance" page. Ever since then I've had the feeling their tech support people we inept.

    This should not suprise me, as I have yet to have a good experience in their store. The salespeople are, and look, clueless. I have thown them for a loop too many times with questions like "how much does the item in the end isle display cost, there is no tag". I have never waited in line there less than 10 minutes, and the "anti-theft" thing goes off every 10 people or so; the guy with who looks like a thug (who's polo shirt doesn't fit) then has to check reciepts. It is all just a ploy to eliminate shoplifting, like the very visible camera monitor you have to walk around to get into the store. The place is run like the don't trust any of their customers. Not a place that makes you feel welcome.

    It short, it is auwful. If there was another major electronics store in the area (closest "equal" class competitor is an hour away) they would not get any of my business.

    I aviod them at every opportunity. Too bas they are the only place I can find certain items around here.

    -Pete

    1. Re:Best Try is a joke by entrager · · Score: 5, Informative

      I worked for Best Buy for almost a year. I was a salesperson in the computers department for about 4 months and then I transfered to the service desk. Working there was a truely eye opening experience. I had no idea the retail business was such a sham! Some examples:

      1) The sales people don't know squat... everyone already knows this, so I won't spend any more time discussing it.

      2) In Best Buy land, Performance Service Plans (PSPs) are the most important aspect of a sale. For those that don't know, the PSP is the extended warranty. As a salesperson there, you are under EXTREME pressure to sell as many PSPs as possible. Raises, good treatment, etc. all go to the people that sell the most PSPs.

      3) Often times, managers will encourage employees to pretend that an item is out of stock in order to prevent a sale when the customer expressed their intention to NOT buy a PSP.

      4) Some salespeople will encourage customers to shop elsewhere if they aren't intending to buy a PSP. This includes both other Best Buy stores and competitors. Since stores are ranked based on PSP sales (as a percentage of total sales), it benefits one store to have a non-PSP buying customer buy from a different Best Buy.

      5) Some salespeople will flat out lie in order to sell a PSP. Telling customers that the PSP covers more than it actually does is very common.

      6) The sale of accesories along with a PC/TV/Stereo makes the company WAY more money than the sale of the actual product. Keep this in mind. The stores are also ranked on this number. Once a manager tried to convince me to buy 2 of our most expensive UPS systems at our store and then return them at a different store. This would have greatly boosted our numbers and lowered the other store's.

      7) Never bother getting a rain check at a Best Buy, you probably won't get a call back (unless you already have shown interest in a PSP).

      8) Never have anything repaired at Best Buy, their repair department is unorganized and over-priced. The people working on your equipment are also usually under-qualified.

      In summary... Best Buy is a great store, as long as you don't mind clueless salespeople and being harassed about service plans. Your best bet when buying something there is to tell them you want the service plan, and then change your mind at the register. Customers that want PSPs get good treatment, but once you'r at that register, there's nothing to keep you from not buying it.

      Also, be prepared to have a manager speak to you when you decline the service plan. Pleasantly refuse, and you should have no problem getting through.

      NOTE: All of the above comments applied to the store I worked at, and many others I've been to. There ARE exceptions though. I know of one "clean" Best Buy in Denver, the manager there is a straight shooter.

    2. Re:Best Try is a joke by dietz · · Score: 4, Informative

      the "anti-theft" thing goes off every 10 people or so; the guy with who looks like a thug (who's polo shirt doesn't fit) then has to check reciepts.

      Let the record show: you do NOT have to stop and let that thug check your receipt. You have paid for your merchandise, and you are free to leave. They do /not/ have a right to search you just because you are in their store and their obviously-flawed security gates went off. If you listen, you'll notice that's why they always ask YOUR permission to search you: "Can I have a look through your bag?" Say "no thank you" and keep walking.

      If they want to search you without losing a lawsuit, they need to see you pick up some merchandise and then not lose sight of you until you leave the store without paying for it. Anything less than that opens them up to a lawsuit, and THEY KNOW THIS. Just say "no thank you" and be on your way. If they put up a fight just tell them to call the cops if they think they have a case. I've only had that happen to me once at Walgreen's at 3am, and even those dipshits knew they had no right to hold me.

      This also goes at Fry's where they check everyone's reciept. I've found the exit-door employees are actually much, much nicer when you say "no thank you!" politely when they ask to see your receipt. They all know that there's nothing they can do to you and generally will say "okay, thanks for coming in, have a nice day!" or something similar, which is a lot more than I get normally.

    3. Re:Best Try is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in loss prevention for a major computer retailer, and in short we don't trust anyone. Not the customers, not the employees, no one. You just can't afford too. Considering that computer retailers only make about 20% margin on a GOOD day (thats before you think about paying the bills), you just can't lose too much stuff before it starts hurting your profits.

    4. Re:Best Try is a joke by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "The place is run like the don't trust any of their customers..."

      I've got stories about stupid Best Buy salesmen. I totally agree that they are awful. However, Best Buy has two things going that I really like:

      1.) Their return policy is awesome. Any time I want to buy something (like a DVD burner or a vid card), and I have concerns about whether it'll work or not, I buy it at Best Buy because I have a month to sort out whether it'll be worthwhile or not. I've only needed to take advantage of that policy once.

      2.) I've had good luck with their prices. I wouldn't say they are the absolute lowest, but they are usually low enough that it's worth the trip.

      These two points alone negate most of the complaints I hear about Best Buy that'd make me not want to shop there.

      However... this unencrypted cashier business does bother me. Where I live, there are all kinds of ways people try to steal identities. Best Buy is giving them too big of an opportunity here. It wouldn't be that hard to sniff the airwaves and pull out credit card #'s etc.

      Fortunately, though, Slashdot's attention to it will likely mean they'll hop on that right away. But who knows.

      I won't stop shopping there, but I will only use my credit card there instead of my debit card. My credit card company is far more responsive to theft than my bank is. (Ironic, isn't it? My credit card is loaning me money...)

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    5. Re:Best Try is a joke by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Let the record show: you do NOT have to stop and let that thug check your receipt."

      Yeah!!! Fight the power!! Don't let those guys glance at your receipt! Give 'em hell! It'll only ruin the nice man's day and add conflict you wouldn't normally have!

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    6. Re:Best Try is a joke by ender81b · · Score: 2

      Best buy doesn't trust their customers. Which is ok by me considering the amount of money they lose to shoplifting even with these insane security procedures in place. As long as they treat me ok (which they do when the inevitable security buzzer goes off) everything is fine.

      BTW, they don't treat their employees any better - as a matter of fact worse. Friend of mine works for the tech department there. All employees (except for some managers) must be patted down before they leave the store. Despite this people try to steal stuff on a regular basis - the latest one I heard was someone stole 14 laptops (and got caught..). The lengths people go to steal stuff from the store is amazing, even customers. One guy snuck in a cable cutter to try and snip the cables on the laptops. He made it to the door..

    7. Re:Best Try is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not that they don't trust their customers, it's that they don't trust their employees. They look at your receipt to make sure the cashier rung up all your purchases correctly and didn't try to avoid something.

    8. Re:Best Try is a joke by wampus · · Score: 1

      Four words: GOLD PLATED OPTICAL CABLE.

      I was buying a new reciever, and mentioned that I needed a TOSlink cable for my CD changer. The sales guy grabbed one for me, and I didn't take too close a look at it, except to make sure it wasn't a MONSTER cable.

      When I got home and started to hook it up, I realized I was now the proud owner of a six foot, silicone insulated TOSlink cable, with gold plated optical connectors. Guess that will teach me to pay attention to what the sales droid drops in my cart.

    9. Re:Best Try is a joke by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My brother-in-law was an operations manager at a couple of the bigger stores in Minnesota (where they have their Corporate Death Star Headquarters).

      Everything you said about this I've heard him say, along with a continuing battle to keep the employees from either ripping the store off themselves or doing it in cooperation with the customers. Considering most of the employees look like they were recruited from a reform school, none of it surprises me -- disgusts and insults, yes, surprises, no.

      He's out and very grateful to be out.

    10. Re:Best Try is a joke by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fortunately, though, Slashdot's attention to it will likely mean they'll hop on that right away. But who knows.

      Who knows indeed....

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      Corporate Flunky: Sir, it looks like the geeks at slashdot have exposed our technical ineptitude. The rest of society, which loves and respects their opinions, has boycotted us. We're bleeding money like a stuck pig.

      CEO Schulze: Well shee-it, looks like we're done fer. Get Wally on the phone, let's see if I can sell off some assets and salvage something from this shitstorm!

      ---

      Wait, isn't Wally dead? Nevermind.

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      Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
    11. Re:Best Try is a joke by dietz · · Score: 1

      I didn't say "give 'em hell". I said to politely say "no thank you". Only once have I ever had any conflict about it, and I always get out of the store faster.

      Especially in Fry's where sometimes they expect you to WAIT IN LINE while they look at your receipt. Fuck that.

    12. Re:Best Try is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I had this happen to me at a best buy. The security guy *blocked my way* and would not let me pass out the door without seeing my reciept. I told him no, get out of my way, etc, but he would not let me pass. I finally gave in after about 2 minutes, came back the next day and returned everything, and never went back.

    13. Re:Best Try is a joke by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      Draw on the gold section of your optical cable with green marker and that'll make 'er really sound good!

    14. Re:Best Try is a joke by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "I didn't say "give 'em hell".

      Understood. The reason I said that was that you referred to him/her as a 'thug'. Thought you'd appreciate the feedback explaining why I responded the way I did. :)

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      "Derp de derp."
    15. Re:Best Try is a joke by geekoid · · Score: 2

      absolutly.
      I don't stop at ANY receipt checker, whether its best buy, frys, or costco.
      I won't stop if there alarm goes off either.
      I will not give up my rights, and time just becauses some infernal machine hoots and beeps at me.

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    16. Re:Best Try is a joke by Fastball · · Score: 2
      Often times, managers will encourage employees to pretend that an item is out of stock in order to prevent a sale when the customer expressed their intention to NOT buy a PSP.

      I can't tell you how many times I've gone to Best Buy's computer department to buy something like Ethernet cables, printer cables, etc. and went away empty because they were "out of stock."

      Knowing this I decided last year to take my business elsewhere while looking for a 21" monitor, but I decided to drop in on Best Buy to check their prices. Lo and behold, they had what I wanted and I inquired about buying it. Out of stock. We hadn't even gotten down to PSPs or anything yet either!

      Perhaps it varies from store to store, but the one here in Lexington, KY is so pitiful you'd think the world supply of copper and silicon was completely expended.

    17. Re:Best Try is a joke by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      7) Never bother getting a rain check at a Best Buy, you probably won't get a call back (unless you already have shown interest in a PSP).

      Heh.

      Tell me about it... I did finally get a TV I put on raincheck, but I had to just about grab the section manager by the balls and force it out of him. After a couple weeks I called daily and visited the store at least once a week.

      After about 6 weeks they managed to "lose" my raincheck and claimed that there were now about 5 people ahead of me for the same TV. I convinced them otherwise, got the TV that day, and an additional 10% or so off an already low price.

      Was it worth it? Hell no. Sadly, Circuit City and the other big box electronics stores suck just as badly.

    18. Re:Best Try is a joke by renehollan · · Score: 2

      Where I live, the thing to do is to pull out your gun and defend yourself against the atempted kidnapping.

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      You could've hired me.
    19. Re:Best Try is a joke by whovian · · Score: 2

      My local Best Buy uses transparent bags for small items. The store exit guard would be able to see easily the contents of the bag.

      Still, the store has the "burden of proof" of catching you in the act.

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    20. Re:Best Try is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wondering, is the law the same in Canada? (That the only way they can stop you is if they see you take the item from the shelf?)

    21. Re:Best Try is a joke by Thornae · · Score: 2

      They do /not/ have a right to search you just because you are in their store and their obviously-flawed security gates went off.

      Just a quick FYI for any Aussies out there who think this might work for them, it won't. The laws are different here. A very brief summary is at the ACLU's website.

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    22. Re:Best Try is a joke by fermion · · Score: 1
      I do not often frequent the big box retailers that treat me like a criminal, but when I do, I make a sport of it. For instance, they will try to take you bag when you walk in. Of course females can take huge handbags in, but a male cannot take a small backpack. So, claim the backpack is a purse. It totally flusters them, and after a few minutes, they will give up. On exit, they will try to check the bags. I generally avoid eye contact and keep walking.

      Of course, this is not 1980 and we all know the consequences of shopping big box stores. We know that the service sucks. We know that we are going to be treated like criminals. We know that the prices will often be lower. So, what I don't understand is why people keep going to these stores only to complain how horrible the experience is. If we want the low prices, we should live with the inconvenience. If we do not need the low prices, go somewhere else. In this case, we know that discount electronic stores make thier money through the extended warrenty plan. We know that the electronics are just loss leaders. Why we treat these known facts as new discoveries are beyond me.

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      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    23. Re:Best Try is a joke by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 1

      Only once have I ever had any conflict about it

      I want the dirt on the conflict please :)

    24. Re:Best Try is a joke by seanadams.com · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Best Buy land, Performance Service Plans (PSPs) are the most important aspect of a sale

      Moe: Jabs the crayon up Homer's nose
      Homer: DEFENSE DEFENSE
      Moe: "Hmmm - almost there"... jabs it a little further
      Homer: "Extended warranty! How can I lose?"
      Moe: "Ah - that's just right."

    25. Re:Best Try is a joke by moncyb · · Score: 2

      Yeah, after hearing all this, I don't think I'll ever set foot in a Best Buy store. Why the push for PSP plans? I suppose it's just to con money out of customers. As far as I can tell, they're useless.

      I agree about Circuit City--I went in their store once and it sucked. They're also the pushers of Divix

    26. Re:Best Try is a joke by kesuki · · Score: 2

      Well no wonder I can never pass the phone-in interview then. I've been trying to answer like an honest psychologically balanced person, when they want sharks who'd steal from their own grandmas.
      Mainly I wanted to work there because when they have MIR on HDs you can get them at or below the cost of an OEM bare drive usually at least with an employee discount. It's nice having extra cables and mounting hardware for when you're trying to hack rounded cables or build something geeky.

    27. Re:Best Try is a joke by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Yes, I refused to set foot in CC for a couple years thanks to the DivX crap. But they paid for it in the long run - $110M writeoff. That seriously impacted their bottom line for awhile.

    28. Re:Best Try is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only called him a thug because the guy above me did.

      I always treat people working those shitty jobs as politely as possible to try to offset all the bastards they have to put up with on a day to day basis.

    29. Re:Best Try is a joke by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "I always treat people working those shitty jobs as politely as possible to try to offset all the bastards they have to put up with on a day to day basis. "

      That's a good idea. When you treat people nicely, they're going to be more helpful. AT&T Wireless took $100 off my cell bill once as a favor. Their policy forbade it, but they treat their long-term customers well. It's at the agent's discretion, though. If I had been really mean to her, she would have said "sorry, but you made that choice, you're stuck with it."

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  16. Re:First "Jo O'Meara" Post by Spruce+Moose · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Dude you were ripped off.

    Next time you meta-moderate make sure you moderate any trolls that should be offtopic as "unfair".

  17. Wireless Inventory by MikeD83 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "The company does, however, use wireless LANs for inventory and stocking operations. " I have worked at three different retail companies: Sears, Staples, and Target. Each one of those companies uses a wireless lan for inventory scanners. I'm sure my experience is not coincidence. What point is the author trying to make there?

    1. Re:Wireless Inventory by isbhod · · Score: 1

      the point is that Sears, Staples, and Target don't broadcast credit card information, nor the digital signature they get form those damn big brother pads over the air un-encrypted for any schmuk to snag.

    2. Re:Wireless Inventory by pseudobadguy · · Score: 1

      If they use a wireless network to get to access inventory data, it's a good chance that wireless network is actually tied to the store backbone. You hop on the backbone and you can poke at all the other boxes on it. Just passing inventory data on wireless sounds secure at first, but when you examine it, they are just avoiding having client data sniffed. They aren't protecting the network.

    3. Re:Wireless Inventory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neat thing is that the scanners themselves usually run on DOS. Home Depot's Wireless carts run on a very modified version of Win95, as do the newer cash registers, the employment application computer, and the paint & design computers.

  18. Hemos got yah! by bahtama · · Score: 1

    Sorry timothy, but hemos got first post(ed story) on you about those trains. ;)

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    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    Oh bother.

  19. Maglev side-effects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've always wondered what magnetic fields strong enough to levitate a train do to the watches, hearing aids, and pacemakers of passengers?

    1. Re:Maglev side-effects? by istartedi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most likely negligible. An efficient system wouldn't put magnetic fields into the passenger compartment--it would be a waste. I wager anything that leaks can be blocked by a fairly thin ferro-magnetic shield.

      --
      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    2. Re:Maglev side-effects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's comparatively difficult to shield static magnetic fields. Consider that the earth's magnetic field penetrates all the way into buildings, under tunnels, just about anywhere you want to be. Whereas microwaves, visible light, and even radio waves are rather easily attenuated. But fortunately magnetic fields have no health effects, so there's no need to block em.

    3. Re:Maglev side-effects? by kesuki · · Score: 2

      The key word is 'static' Maglev trains use Electro-magnetic fields (EMFs.) Due to the nature of EMFs it is quite easy to point them in one specific direction, and it is also easy to shield them. Since they pulse with variance in the current they are believed (by some) to cause lukemia and certain other forms of cancer, evidence of this is primarily from studies done on long term exposure to the very high dosage EMF in a power generation plant. There isn't even an iota of proof that power lines, or Monitors produce enough. Maglev trains only produce a strong enough field to effect anyone if they're riding underneath the train, which has a number of other nasty side effects, like contusions, abrasions and permanent hearing loss, should one survive.

  20. SouthEast Virginia unsecured WiFi points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A guy I work with occasionally sets up a rig in his car and drives all over the Tidewater/Hampton Roads region and even up to the DC area and so far has logged over 700 access points. He used to list which ones were secured and unsecured (it was about 50/50 a few months ago), but it looks like he took that info off of his site. I don't blame him.

    http://www.vawifi.com/

    The scary part is, stores like Lowe's Home Improvement, Home Depot, and other commercial businesses were passing credit card numbers in the open. At the locations that were in the open, he would get on the internet and update his site in real-time. Makes you realize how ignorant some users are with their computers...

  21. Best Buys into Encryption by oolon · · Score: 1

    In future all credit card numbers are to be encrypted with Rot 13, which is particularly secure for numbers ;-)

    James

    1. Re:Best Buys into Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT UP!! Think about it, that IS pretty fucking funny!

  22. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you talking about? That's not the same article! Jesus. Read them both before slamming me...

    It is not the same MSNBC article, but it is the same vulnerability, with more technical details. Should ./ put the same story up over and over if a bunch of different web sites cover it? Your initial snarky comment implied that ./ editors wouldn't put the subject up on the front page because they love open source projects like apache and wouldn't print negative stories about them. Yet they did exactly that, and they did it before you even started up your bitching.

  23. Worst practices ever! by AntiNorm · · Score: 2

    Best Buy's worst practices for data security

    *Comic Book Guy* Worst practices ever!

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    I pledge allegiance to the flag...
    of the Corporate States of America...
    1. Re:Worst practices ever! by Radi-0-head · · Score: 1

      Why did you need to cut away? Unstable belly fly from excessive slashdot beer gut?

  24. Maglev Schmaglev by FatRatBastard · · Score: 2

    WVU has had the PRT for a donkey's age. Sure it doesn't float, but it got my drunken ass around campus, to and from football games, and out to tutor engineers with ease.

    Truly neat stuff.

    Of course, getting stuck on one packed with students on a hot day sucked, but that's what deodorant is for anyway...

  25. Re:BestBuy -- you mean Worst Buy? by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its the same reason people shop at Fry's or anywhere else -- when you balance the equation of convenience, location, price, selection, staff, policies, and so on, for many things it balances out to be pretty much the best option, sometimes the only option.

    I try to avoid it if I can, even going to more upscale shops, but even when customer service isn't Best Buy Awful, they're still ingratiating college drop outs who are just training for the big league of automobile and photocopier sales.

  26. rail gun by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

    Hey I saw an article on how to make a rail gun out of a ruler, a couple of strong magnets and some pinball balls. I'm too lazy to do a search just wanted to say I saw it somewhere, more than likely here.

  27. I went to ODU as well... by Starcub · · Score: 2, Informative

    The maglev train is a good thing for ODU as the school is just to close to downtown Norfolk for comfort. Something like this might have kept me from getting my bike stolen and spared me the "enlightened comments" from the campus police as we drove around the more shady sections looking for it. On the plus side, my renter's insurance paid for a brand new bike, even better than the one that was stolen!

    1. Re:I went to ODU as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was EE with a physical sciences emphasis myself so I didn't take many CE courses (though I enjoyed the few I did take). My overall impression of the staff was pretty good. However, prepare for classes ahead of time when possible; sometimes the professors make mistakes. It's not bad if the subject matter is simple, but if it's not, you can fall behind in following the lecture. Enjoy!

  28. Quick! Quick! by The+Pi-Guy · · Score: 2

    Drive to your nearest Best Buy and change the price of the GeForces to $0!!!

    Humorously,
    --pi

  29. LLNL by dissonant7 · · Score: 1
    Instead, LLNL may become a 'center for excellence,'...
    I hear they're a shoe-in for the next annual Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.
  30. Best Buy - Play with anything in the store my arse by Hallow · · Score: 1

    To go with all the other best buy bashing, they're also guilty (IANAL, but IMHO) of false advertising.

    Just go in and say you want to try the new XYZ video
    game that's only for PC before you buy. Heh. Tell them you want to try that new audio cd, dvd, electric razor, george forman grill, or any of a number of other products.

    Or just do it without asking.. Then watch yourself get banned from the store. I hate false advertising. ;)

  31. I Am Not A Doctor by Tomble · · Score: 1
    I've never heard anything to confirm such a thing, so it's probably a non-issue- but there is the Hall effect (IIRC) that means that if you have current flowing through a conductor, with a magnetic field at a right angle to the direction of flow, the electrons veer over to one side, and hence a PD builds up between opposite sides of the conductor (at right angles to current and field). *

    Well, I have pondered over whether the Hall effect has any meaningful effect on nerves and neurons.

    Now, it may not have been due to that, but there was something on TV where they were investigating why people feel places are haunted. They found that many such places had relatively high magnetic fields, and in investigating further, they got volunteers to sit in the laboratory and wear these helmets with big magnets in them. No, I'm not making this up! Anyway, the victims^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteers reported feeling extremely scared and sensing "evil presences" and stuff of that nature.

    It is worth remembering though, that they were supposed to be pretty powerful magnetic fields, and right around their heads. Also, I don't remember whether they were supposed to be alternating fields (but I'm fairly sure they weren't), if so then it would have been plain old induction (but that would presumably have fried their brains??).

    *--I Am Not A Physicist either. So that definition may well be wrong in some way. I take no responsibility for accuracy of any of this stuff whatsoever.Not none.

    --
    Be careful! New moon tonight.
    1. Re:I Am Not A Doctor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Static magnetic feilds are safe because they emit no energy. Alternating magnetic feilds do by induction, which can do nasty things to your nerve cells. This is why magnetic feilds from power lines and CRTs are potentially far more dangerous than if your house is built on a big lodestone deposit, even if the magnetic feilds are comparable in absolute strength. The earth's magnetic field doesn't oscillate 60 times a second.

    2. Re:I Am Not A Doctor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "if you have current flowing through a conductor, with a magnetic field at a right angle to the direction of flow, the electrons veer over to one side, and hence a PD builds up between opposite
      sides of the conductor (at right angles to current and field). * "

      Almost. The electrons IN THE *SENSOR* that uses the Hall effect are veered, and that sensor is a semiconductor. Got any of those in your nervous system?

      The point in the Hall effect is to measure DC magnetic fields with a smaller and cheaper sensor than a DC transformer.

      And don't get me started with DC transformers, I can already hear the 99.9% of the university educated engineers saying there's no such thing, I suggest you polish up on your 1950's industrial control techniques!

  32. Well if Shelbyville has a maglev monorail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're twice as smart as the people of Shelbyville.
    Just tell us your idea, and we'll vote for it!
    -- Mayor Quimby, Simpsons Episode: <A HREF="http://www.snpp.com/episodes/9F10.html">` `Marge vs. the Monorail''</A>

  33. Doesn't anyone read slashdot before they post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  34. Best Buy. Worse than MS trolling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've yet to have a problem with them, their salespeople (Who seem more clued in than the rest of the chain stores in regards to technical matters. They understood that Linux wasn't some guy with a blue blanket.), or anything else there.

    I suppose I shouldn't expect much from the people who ran around screaming about 'pre-ordering a GF4 before they fix their price!'. Yeah, fsck the corps, yadda yadda yadda.

  35. Uh Oh... by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 2, Funny
    Not only was it a fast-growing newsgroup, but the technical standard is extremely high.

    And pointing this out to slashdot, you just ensured it won't stay that way for very long.

  36. Not the first MagLev train. by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Black Mesa Federal Research Facility had a maglev train, at least, until it was destroyed by aliens from planet Xen.

  37. My Letter Regarding A Receipt Checker Experience by JohnA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Naturally, I received a response saying that "the store said that this did not happen." I haven't shopped there since.

    December 26, 2001

    Richard M. Schultze
    Chairman & CEO
    Best Buy Co., Inc.
    7075 Flying Cloud Drive
    Eden Prairie, MN 55344

    Cc: Allen Lenzmeier
    President
    Best Buy Retail Stores

    Dear Mr. Schultze,

    I am writing you in regards to the events that took place today, December 26, 2001, at Best Buy #516 (Alpharetta, GA). First I would like to mention that I don't usually write letters to executives such as you concerning the conduct of low-level employees, but I felt that the events that occurred today warranted such action.

    I received two $25 gift cards for Christmas this year, and went to visit my local Best Buy to redeem them. I purchased several DVD movies, as well as a computer cable. My total, after the gift cards were applied, was approximately $65. To my knowledge, retail companies issue gift cards not only for the assurance of a future purchase but also in the hope the customer will purchase other merchandise beyond the amount to be redeemed. I did exactly this with no reservations and came away pleased with my purchase.

    As I am sure you can imagine, the store was an absolute zoo due to the holiday season, and the lines at the registers where backed up across the central aisle and spilled over into the music section. As I was exiting the store another customer about seven feet ahead of me set off the alarm, I, however, continued through and as the alarm did not activate so of course I felt that there was no reason to remain on the premises. At that time, a loss prevention employee ran out of the store and demanded to see my receipt. This particular employee, whose nametag read Josh, has in the past demanded I show him my receipt a good majority of the times he is on duty heedless of what I had just purchased and without the reasonable doubt that activating the security gates may imply. Out of these dozen or more "checks," this employee has not once found anything but the items listed on the receipt inside of my bag. Such dogged persistence to search my purchases with no justifiable reason has made it difficult to interact with him not only as an employee but as a person as well.

    Today, I had just waited 20 minutes to check out, and another 10 minutes for the clerk to locate the BestBuy.com order I was picking up; I was in no mood to be made to wait a third time. Knowing that there was no reason whatsoever for the employee to continue to subject me to such scrutiny, I chose rather to inform him that I was leaving instead of submitting once again to his suspicions and started walking off towards my car. He continued to pursue me, at which point I became upset that this harassment was still taking place. Rather than maintain a civilized approach to the situation he proceeded to stand in front of my path and grab at my bag. After "bumping" me with his chest and pushing me with his hands a verbal confrontation ensued, during which the employee stated to me "Why don't you go fuck yourself". Following this, I was trying my best to simply escape the situation, since I knew that if he continued to markedly provoke me in this manner, I might lose my temper. That was the last thing I wanted to happen; especially in light of the fact that it was the day after Christmas and I simply wished to enjoy my day off from work with my younger brother. He can independently verify my account if you deem it necessary.

    As I was trying to leave, the employee grabbed my shopping bag and refused to release it. In accordance with my desire to avoid any further escalation, I was able to forcibly regain the bag by pulling it out of his hands. By this time, a store manager and several other employees began to approach us in the parking lot. Seeing as none of them had witnessed the event or the actions of the employee, I turned and began to walk to my car, rather than have the confrontation continue with more accusations and yelling. As I was leaving "Josh" continued to yell after me, and the manager called me an "asshole" behind my back before telling me to "never come back." There is simply no excuse for this type of behavior from any retail employee, and certainly not from a Best Buy employee.

    In order to demonstrate the extent of my patronage, I have included several documents. First, I have attached a report generated from my Microsoft Money file that details all of the purchases I have made since August using my debit card. According to the report, this total is just over $2,000. Since I only use my debit card about 50% of the time, I have included copies of a number of receipts that I have just been able to locate from around my apartment. As you can see, I am a frequent shopper, and I make multiple purchases per week at your Alpharetta location. I stop by almost every Tuesday to purchase the newly released DVD movies that have recently been made available to the public. As a matter of fact, this is the reason I went shopping in your store today... to pickup a movie I had ordered from BestBuy.com as well as two others that I wished to purchase. The statement the manager made to me that I should "never come back" is disappointing to me.

    I know that as an executive, you have many priorities that occupy your time, but I felt that this situation is of such magnitude that it demands the attention of yourself or someone who is directly involved at a district level.

    I hope you are able to use this information to improve your customer service, and in through that customer service, improve the customer relationships that are so important for Best Buy to continue to succeed in the marketplace. Thank you for your attention to this matter and for your time. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on how this situation can be resolved.

    Regards,

    ....

  38. New power source discovered? by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
    Crews will also begin wiring the track with electiricty, the train's power source.


    At least they are not wiring it with coal (or Coke) :-)

    1. Re:New power source discovered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Crews will also begin wiring the track with electiricty, the train's power source.
      At least they are not wiring it with coal (or Coke) :-)

      It's actually being wired with the (Dark) Crystal.

  39. Disney world by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 2

    It's been over 10 years since I went to disney world, but don't they have a maglev train in "tomorrowland"?

    1. Re:Disney world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. However, it does use linear induction motors to propel the car on wheels.

    2. Re:Disney world by Animats · · Score: 2
      Disney World doesn't have a maglev. But Team Rodent did propose to build a high-speed maglev line from the Orlando airport to Disney World, bypassing all competing attractions and hotels. Their competitors screamed, and it didn't get built.

      This new campus maglev is silly. There's no reason to build a maglev to go 40MPH. Then there's the problem of maintaining a one-of-a-kind system, which is why London's old maglev, from the 1980s, was scrapped.

  40. Re:This won't be posted as an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello? I was trolling your asses! You understand now? Good...

    YHBT. YHL. HAND.

    Coalition for Good, Unobvious Trolls
    C-GUT

  41. Wot in ze fok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    laf, I really need 2 know wot in ze fok u r tok bowet!!!!!!!! sak is a fuker heh

    FUK u rofl

  42. You had other options... by TheMCP · · Score: 2

    If a store employee runs out after you and physically grabs your purchase out of your hands, an appropriate response would be to open your mouth and start yelling "HELP! POLICE! I'M BEING ASSAULTED AND ROBBED! HELP! POLICE!" as loudly as you possibly can, while pointing at the employee.

    I guarantee you that:
    1) This will get the attention of everyone within hearing range, who will all stop to stare at the altercation. That generally will make the employee pretty damn uncomfortable with what they're doing, although of course they will try to act like you're some kind of lunatic. Knowing that everyone is watching will, however, force them to adhere to some minimal standard of decent behavior.

    2) This suddenly puts a whole different spin on how the store has to handle the situation: instead of being on the offensive, claiming you're some kind of bad customer, they're on the defensive, trying to fend off the accusation that their employees assault their customers.

    Although, to be honest, any employee who physically grabs my shopping bag out of my hands is in danger of being hit: That *is* assault around here, and I *do* have the right to defend myself, and if they actually physically fought a bag out of my hands I would be likely to defend myself before stopping to consider the situation.

    That's the danger of such employees: they pick on the wrong person and they may find that they've chosen to assault someone who has faster self-defense reflexes, suddenly the police are involved, and it won't be the customer who gets arrested and sued.

    Now that the store has told you, "Don't ever come back," make sure to tell all of your friends about it so they know that the store doesn't want people like you as customers, so they obviously must not want any of your friends as customers either.

    1. Re:You had other options... by moncyb · · Score: 2

      Do one higher than that. Don't make any noise--just walk to the nearest phone, call the police, and get the guy arrested. Then the people there will be afraid to steal anything from you or falsely accuse you of anything...and it is stealing. You paid for the merchandise, so it is now your property, not the store's.

      If you do that, just be sure everything in the bag is on the receipt--sometimes the cashier accidently misses scanning everything--just like sometimes they double scan stuff...it'd be embarassing to get arrested if you're the one that called the police. ;-)

    2. Re:You had other options... by RedHat+Rocky · · Score: 1

      No, I'd do both. You need an immediate stop on the employee's behavior (the original poster tried to walk away several times, how would he make it to a phone?). Verbally calling would be the right thing. Pressing the police for assault charges would also be a good thing, gets managements attention that there is a problem.

      In short, when presented with two good ideas, do both if possible.

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      Anything is possible given time and money.
  43. I prefer trains with wheels by gouva111 · · Score: 1

    Other than the coolness factor, I dont understand the advantage of maglev. It surely must take more power to keep those things floating than it takes to overcome rolling resistance for a wheeled train.

  44. maglev instead of airplanes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the US government spent as much money on trains
    as it spends on commercial airlines, citizens of the
    US would have had maglev trains already.

  45. New Best Buy Coding Algorithm Cracked! by captnkurt · · Score: 1

    Laurie Bauer, public relations director for Eden Prairie, Minn.-based Best Buy, told Computerworld in an e-mail last night that the company had returned the wireless registers to service after adding additional security measures that she did not identify.

  46. Or air cushions. by Thag · · Score: 2

    I would think that you could get all of the advantages of maglev at a fraction of the price by using a thin air cushion underneath the train instead of magnetic levitation.

    It would certainly make your track cheaper: an air cushion train could run on concrete.

    Jon Acheson

    --
    All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
  47. Yes, they do, sort of... by Watts+Martin · · Score: 2

    ...it's just not a very useful one. The WEDWay PeopleMover in Disney World--now renamed the "Tomorrowland Transit Authority"--isn't called a mag-lev, but as it uses linear induction motors and no wheels, it's a low-speed relative. (And it bears no relation to the PeopleMover that used to be at Disneyland.)

  48. Boston is nothing by Theonewhois · · Score: 1

    You can't possibly know real public Transit pain until you've tried to get from anywhere to ANYwhere on Atlanta's "MARTA" It's really rather useless. Well, no, it goes to the airport. But that's about it. For a city the size of Atlanta, it's only got two lines. TWO! Supposedly you can get most places by getting off a train and taking buses, but the routes are so convoluted that the one time I tried to use them It took almost as much time as it would have to walk. And on top of all this, it costs $1.75, vs most cities' 50-80cents.

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    Common sense is what tells us that the world is flat
  49. Re:My Letter Regarding A Receipt Checker Experienc by Watcher · · Score: 1

    I had a somewhat similar incident at a Kentucky Fried Chicken, of all places. I bought a $6 meal, handed them $20, and I got $4 in change.

    Obviously, the math didn't add up here.

    Anyway, I mentioned this to the cashier, who acknowledged the mistake. She couldn't reopen the till to give me my $10, and so she called over a manager. The manager immediately pulled the till, walked into another room out of sight, and returned claiming that I was owed no money. I contacted KFC's customer hotline, reported what had happened, and they said they would respond quickly. I have never heard from them, and I have contacted them several times. No action has occurred.

    I don't buy Pepsi products at all now. They don't need any more of my money.

  50. Useful Boston by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

    Oh, Boston's isn't useless at all, just odd. The T is just about the only way I will be getting around

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    Tibbon
    tibbon.com
  51. Yahoo =! Newsgroup by crisco · · Score: 2
    a group was started on Yahoo!. Not only was it a fast-growing newsgroup
    A Yahoo Group is not a newsgroup. It is a mailing list burdened with Yahoo cruft for people who don't have the time or knowledge to set up a proper mailing list. Newsgroups are read with a NNTP agent, something that doesn't seem possible with Yahoo groups.

    Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

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    Bleh!