GNOME 2.0 Released

MAXOMENOS writes "The GNOME team has announced the release of GNOME 2.0. You can get more information about the GNOME 2.0 system here." Congratulations to everyone involved. Use the mirrors...

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Get To Those Mirrors!

[Anonymous Coward]

GNOME FTP Sites This site is mirrored at:

• United States and Canada

  ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Gnome
  ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org/
  ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/gnome/
  ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/GNOME
  ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/mirrors/site/ftp.gnome.org / ub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp3.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/gnome
  ftp://archive.progeny.com/GNOME/

• Australia

  ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/gnome

• Europe

  ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/GNOME
  ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org
  ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME
  ftp://ftp.codefactory.se/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.dataplus.se/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.dit.upm.es/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.no.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/GNOME/
  ftp://ftp.tr.gnome.org/pub/GNOME

• South America

  ftp://linux.cem.itesm.mx/pub/mirrors/gnome.org

Last updated Wed Jun 26 03:18:01 2002 from our mirror database (webmaster@gnome.org).

Screenshots

[frantzdb]

For the lazy, here are the Screenshots.

Great work to everyone who helped with this. Gnome2 is amazing.

--Ben

GNOME 2, "Ser man p�, GNOME tv�!", is released.

[norpan]

There is no Swedish conspiracy.

http://www.se.gnome.org/conspiracy/

Re:Gnome 2 vs KDE 3

[tempest303]

This question will always be a matter of personal preference, and the ultimate answer is, "Install them both and see which one you like best!"

But you've heard that already, and it's not what you were looking for. ;-)

What you really wanted was Gnome's advantages over KDE. For me, it comes down to a few things...

1) Seems speedier on my 400mhz workstation. This is subjective, but I think it's pretty apparent. YMMV! On faster machines, this is less of an issue, but I don't have a faster machine, so it is a big deal to me. :-)

2) Application "consistency": I personally find Galeon, Evo, and Gnumeric superior to Konquoror, KMail, and Koffice's spreadsheet, so having those former apps match my desktop is nice. While you can run Gnome/GTK apps in KDE, and vice-versa, having your themes between your desktop and Galeon, Evolution, Gnumeric, etc, is really cool.

3) This is the real kicker for me: Gnome 2 is, IMHO, much easier to configure and work with, and is far more intuitive. One of the Gnome 2 philosophies is that things should "just work", and use intelligent default settings wherever possible, instead of offering "6 equally broken ways to do it, and let[ing] the user pick one."* This means that while Gnome is still configurable, you don't have to wade through a nearly endless sea of preference options just to find that one button you were looking for. *cough*Kontrol center*cough* ;-) The tradeoff is that you might not like the default that's been picked, but I've really found that I haven't missed anything so far. There are a few features I'd like to see (re)added, like the system tray, but that's coming very soon in a future release.

* thanks to Havoc Pennington for the great quote.

Once again, though, the only way to decide is to try for yourself.

Happy GNOMEing!

Re:Gnome 2 is terrible to configure

[tempest303]

Note: nearly all of my responses to you will be directly influenced by this document. I personally consider it a must read for anyone interested in Free/OSS desktops.

Additionally, I really dislike what has happened with gnome 2 in configurability. Making intelligent defaults is all fine and good, but when you can't get it how you want, frustration ensues.

Understandable. As it says in the above link, if you feel that the behavior of a particular program is frustrating, file a bug either suggesting a change to the behavior, or, if it really really must be, requesting a preference to change the behavior. Either way, have a logical arguement ready, though - please be aware that "But I've always done it this way!" probably won't fly. If something is broken, but familiar, it's still broken. Sometimes it's really worth the small pain of learning to change your user habits. Of course, other times, the developers are wrong, and need your help in straigtening it out! :-)

Another example is that in metacity, clicking anywhere on a window raises it.

Read the Metacity README file! This is one of Metacity's precious few user options. If you really want a GUI instead of using GConf to change this stuff, check out Metacity Setup - it's a seperate project from Metacity proper, but it's becoming quite nice!

(incidently, sloppy focus really is total crack, as Havoc also says in the README, but he's letting it slide anyhow *because* of the fact that it's so very useful. The "weight" of the preference is justified in this case. Again, the README is highly informative on this subject.)

Additionally, at least for now, sawfish doesn't even have the infrastructure to bind keys to switching to workspaces in a 2d sense (I can move left or right, but not up or down)

See the release notes: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/errors.html#id28297 18

My vote still lies in configurability, and my hope is I don't have to turn to enlightenment to get it.

Well, if you can put up with E's serious bloat, stability, and consistency issues, (that I've always had with E - maybe it's different for you) in exchange for maniacal control over your WM, be my guest. My guess is you'll probably go back to Gnome or KDE after only a few days. ;-)

(My apologies to E users and developers, but my experiences with it have been *terrible*...)