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World Cup Final
The World Cup final is over; some ludicrous number of people watched some team beat the other team. The next tournament will be held in Germany in 2006. If you haven't watched the game for whatever reason, obviously you might want to avoid clicking through (or reading any other news site, or talking to anyone...). Neither of those two links should be a spoiler, though.
And for those that did click through, the final standings are up, as are lots and lots of reports about the game.
OK, moderators, we've obviously got some smartass here who hasn't got the *faintest* idea about football. I'm a little dazzled, and maybe I misread his "+3 insightful" as "flamebait" where it should have been "troll".
But I'll bite anyways. Any moderator who hasn't seen the match shouldn't, well, moderate. This comment is so full of crap that I don't even bother to step on the soapbox in order to tear his analysis of the match to pieces.
I'm ready to discuss this, I admit, somehow "offtopic topic" with anybody who'd like to engage, but please, PLEASE, don't moderate this to +3! Anyone who has a 101 clue about football, please metamoderate!
> Yes, coz all those years of hard work and
> determination doesn't mean a damn thing.
"I do everything through him who gives me strength" - St. Paul. Among the gifts they have been given are determination and drive.
To those players, knowing Jesus is more important than winning the World Cup.
Gerv
I agree that the team which wins should not claim God chose them over the opposition. But there's nothing wrong in players giving credit where it's due for their abilities. If that's wrong, then so is "I'd like to thank Mum and Dad for supporting me all the way".
Gerv
(Disclaimer - Christian)
Sir, why? Would you be personally offended if one took off his shirt and revealed a Tux vest?
Fact is, they think Jesus is important. They chose to reveal that, and in a world where the assumption seems to be that most people are agnostic and afraid to be different, I admire them for that. I wouldn't admire them any less if they were wearing a star of david, a crescent, a picture of Buddha, anything like that. They've got fame thanks to their talents and they're now using that to give them a small mouthpiece. Not unusual, just that when it's religious people tend to get shirty.
Really, I'm not one of these 'the whole world is in a conspiracy to bury the Bible!' Christians. That's patently untrue. It's rather irritating, though, to see this sort of senseless bashing.
Greg
(Inside a nuclear plant)
Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!
You can call him a coke sniffer, but do not forget that Maradona quite possibly scored the finest goal in WC history
funny that people still talk about "the hand of god" while that linked run of Maradona's 3 minutes later was truly breathtaking and far more memorable. I'm not even a Argentina fan, yet i feel lucky to have watched it.
what makes your choice something that isn't arbitrary and meaningless?
Because I studied all the evidence for the historicity of the Bible, read what it had to say, evaluated its claims against other possibilities and explanations, and concluded that Jesus rose from the dead. That makes him God, and all else follows from there.
Since then, my faith that I am right has been strengthened by seeing God work in my life and the lives of others.
Gerv
Science and logic do not mix with religion.
I don't agree. I'm a scientist by training, and a Christian - and I'm not the only one. There are questions Science cannot answer, because they are outside its frame of reference:
- Why are we here?
- What's the purpose of life?
- What happens after you die?
Gerv