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World Cup Final
The World Cup final is over; some ludicrous number of people watched some team beat the other team. The next tournament will be held in Germany in 2006. If you haven't watched the game for whatever reason, obviously you might want to avoid clicking through (or reading any other news site, or talking to anyone...). Neither of those two links should be a spoiler, though.
And for those that did click through, the final standings are up, as are lots and lots of reports about the game.
Some amazing saves by the Brazillian keeper.
But what was up with those announcers???
Their analogies made absolutely no sense. I think that I would have understood more if I had watched the game on Univision (and I don't speak Spanish)
Jesus used to be my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat him.
Great game! Ronaldo's double gave him 8 for this world cup, securing the golden boot, and 12 lifetime, tying Pele for most goals by a Brazilian in the final. Amazing to see Brasil win it after all the trouble they had in qualifying, using 4 coaches and 70+ players!
Interestingly enough, Brasil will have to re-qualify for the next world cup since from now on the champion doesn't automatically get in. Germany does not have to qualify because they're hosting it.
Whoo!@
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Brazil by far the best team in the world at the moment will have to qualify for the next world cup in Germany 2006 where as runners-up Germany get a free ticket as hosts, oh the irony!
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The world cup was a fantastic success, it's great to see a competition where the world champions actually have to play teams outside of their own country unlike the superbowl or so called 'world series'
Ronadlo erased the memories of the last world cup where he was unable to play thanks to an unwelcome fit. Teamwork won them their cup though.
About the champion being needing to qualify, i think thats good, since you see what happened to France..coming to the world cup having qualified and played as a team helps them in their campaign rather than come in from a dozen different clubs and expect to bulldoze the opposition.
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Teamwork rules
How about the other part of the site's title? "Stuff That Matters", just because it's not geeky doesn't mean there's no interest on this site, and therefore matters to readers.
Good grief, it's the single biggest sports event in the world.
News alert: Some geeks like sport.
That doesn't mean I'm any good at sport though...
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> And stop calling soccer "football." There already is a football.
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Stop calling football "soccer", and start calling the sport that you guys play but no-one else does "American football", which is a far more accurate term for it.
You have to face it on this one - both history and worldwide usage are not on your side.
Gerv
1.5 billion expected viewers and the story has to be submitted by the one slashdot editor who sounds like he could care less? Come on, you can't *all* have slept through this...
I can't believe this got modded up to +3. Kahn had a great game, he made only one mistake the whole evening, his first of the tournament. Give the guy a break.
Germans had more shots, were aggressive, had the most posession, and were even better one-on-one. Every champion needs a good portion of luck, and Brazil has had it today. There was none of the Brazillian wizardry in this World cup, they were one of the great disappointments for me as they played unimaginatively and got through most of their games through luck and ref help.
As for Gerald Asamoah, he's a bloody striker, of course he was late marking Ronaldo, he was sent in to score a goal.
> South Korea has to have taken over the title of
> "Whiniest Country in International Sports".
You are joking, right? When South Korea got knocked out, the fans were partying in the streets all night. There was no drunken hooliganism like we've seen in the past (sadly) from England fans after they lose. During every game, the Koreans played sportingly (none of this shocking Rivaldo-type behaviour, or diving, or hassling the referee) and played as a team.
Italy, on the other hand, got eliminated and spent the next two weeks whining about a conspiracy and demanding an investigation. One club sacked the Korean player who scored the Golden Goal against them, although they later realised how childish they'd been, and offered him his job back. Spain weren't much better.
Gerv
After watching the game, ;)
reading the media reports of the Telegraph, Sport1.de, espn etc. it seems pretty obvious that Germany actually outplayed Brazil over quite a stretch of the game. (At least the news sources would agree with me)...
Kahn made a mistake, he is afterall Human and that was the difference in the game, the second goal was caused by Jeremies being subbed for an attacker that did a rather poor job on defense to create the 2nd goal...and there it was... thats why people started celebrating 11 minutes early...
Both teams played excellet, it wasn't as dirty as I thought it would be...nobody collapsed holding their head after a ball touched their hand
Good game...
contratulations to both...I think Brazil did very well and Germany definitely went beyond what was expected before the tournament started...
Peter
"Nimis exaltatus rex sedet in vertice - caveat ruinam!"
"some ludicrous number of people watched some team beat the other team."
What an attitude!
And how many billions of people from all nations are involved in that other sporting event called "The World Series"....
Justin
set troll = 1
And BTW, its called football, because its game involving feet and balls.
set troll = 0
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As the arguements rage back and forth on this story, I still can't grasp the rabid dissention against the World Cup and "soccer". There is constant comparison to American Football, yet to me the two are about as comparable as relativity and cheese!
When 1.5 billion people watch the World Cup with agonized anticipation people say "who cares" and "nobody's interested in that". Yet these same people think it is a great big deal that a paltry, in comparison, 131 million watched the Super Bowl and for months afterwards discuss the game and the commercials!?!?!?
People argue about the name of the sport. Despite the fact that most of the world refers to a game that is played almost entirely with the feet as Football(makes sense to me), the dissenters call it soccer and argue that it should never have been called football. These same people call a much younger game in which a ball may be kicked only twice over the course of a four hour period and is played almost exclusively with the hands, Football. Huh????
To be honest I enjoy both sports. But, I just don't understand how a small group of people can be so rabid in their dismissal of a sport that is, obviously, of tremendous significance to the entire world. Nobody said that you have to like it but, how can you not see it for what it truely is.
1) The clock counts 'UP', what the hell with that? Wouldn't you rather know how much time is LEFT instead of how much time you've played?
You are probably one of my fellow Americans who always embarass our country by going to Britain and whining about people driving on the "wrong" side of the road. You are pathetic. God forbid you have to get used to accepting a different arbitrary standard then what you are used to. Do the words "grow up" convey anything to you?
2) Penalty time...nuff said.
Heaven forbid you actually learn to appreciate the sport for what it is, rather than damning it for what it is not.
3) Offsides...soo, you're not allowed to have a breakaway at all? I think if you get one you earned it, why should you have to WAIT for a defender to show up so you can continue? Screw that.
You are a fool. Soccer has breakaways all the time; you just can't camp out at the opponent's goalmouth and wait for the inevitable long pass (which is what happens when there is no offside rule - note that is offside, not offsides, you ignoramous). Offside rule forces teams to use a little creativity and imagination in their dribbling and passing. Your problem is that you are applying basketball standards to a very, very different sport.
4) Crowds literally KILLING each other by stampeding, throwing DARTS (for the love of God what would posses you to THROW FUCKING DARTS at people over a gay ass game?), and severe beatings? Go back to the stone age...oh wait Europe never left it!
If you think there are no riots or crowd violence associated with sporting events in the USA, you are a fool. Yes, some countries in Europe have problems with hooliganism. But these people would be violent whereever they are; soccer is just a convenient venue for their hooliganism.
Am I being moded down for accurately reporting my experiences?
Well, your experiences are different from those of most other people. Salon has a more accurate review of the game.
Nobody would deny that Brasil deserved to win, in the end they got more chances and made more of them. But "the Germans sucked raw ass"? For anyone who actually watched the game and knows the rules, your original posting is a troll if I've ever seen one.
You know, there's a language called English, used by some folks in a distant island and they call "football" a game in which you're not allowed to touch the ball with your hands.
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Start calling your silly game with an oval (or eliptic) "ball" by another name -- "carryball" could be an alternative. Nobrainsball or Braindamagedball is also a good idea.
Also, you are not America, ok? Canada is America, Mexico, Panamá, Colômbia, Bolívia, Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, etc. etc. are all America. Stop doing that. Come up with a name to your country? Can't you organize some national poll and create a better designation?
And stop that inch, foot and other body part unit naming. How technical a spec can sound with inches and feet? That's anti-marketing! Good thing that there's no porn unit naming.
To me the world cup lost all it's value this year the second Spain was unfairly kicked out of it. I've seen many games stolen by referees, but what happened in Spain-Korea was unheard of. I guess bringing soccer (and all its business) to the asian market is pretty important for FIFA
Same thing happened to Italy and Portugal, pretty much every decent team that played Korea. Whether you think it's a big plan to let Korea reach semifinals or just a logical consecuence of letting refs from countries like Uganda or Trinidad and Tobago reach this phase of the WC, there's something wrong here and it has screwed this year's world cup
BTW, people in Spain took it very seriously. There's this site that's holding a contest of fake pictures of the ref. The prize is suposed to be a trip to Uganda, the home country of one of the linemen.
You have obviously never played football in your life and don't understand neither the rules nor the tactics. It's even possible that you haven't even watched the game.
:"Ireland,
Here's what I saw: Two very capable teams, a solid, convincing German start, Brazilian players who lost many 1o1s, a terrible mistake by Kahn (his only in the tournament), Brazil taking their chances, while Germany missing all of them.
All in all Brazil deserves to hold the cup (as would have Germany) and I was happy to see Ronaldo come back after his 4 year struggle, as a much better player than he ever was.
The parent troll should note that Gerald Asamoah ("the black...FAT ASS" as the guy so offensively stated) is a striker and not a defender. It wasn't his mistake, but rather bound to happen when the coach sends in an additional striker to replace a defender. With one-nil against the Germans, it was the right decision. Nobody cares whether you lose by one or two, try to even and your back in the game.
One last thing: The troll wrote
Korea, Turkey and Croatia had a better game than Germany." If that would have been so, why weren't they in the finals?
Sinserve, the next time you write something about football, use all players' names and never their numbers. All players deserve this, for they played their hearts out and deserve a little respect. Every goddamn journalist knows and honors it.
I feel so sig.
The clock counts 'UP', what the hell with that? Wouldn't you rather know how much time is LEFT instead of how much time you've played?
It's common in sports that measure time backwards (as you suggest) to still report goals the 'normal' (ie, soccer) way. eg. "The goal was scored by the Red Wings 4 minutes into the first period." Besides, soccer fans and players can both get far more drunk than their equivalents in USian football and STILL do the basic math to determine that 39:00 elapsed means 6:00 left. You're either converting one way or the other, so soccer decides to let the clock run the normal way.
Perhaps.. but your missing one key important detail about America here.... We ARE NUMBER 1!!! WE ARE NUMBER 1!!! WE ARE NUMBER 1!!!
You obviously didn't see the match. Brazil won. They're number 1.
(Ofcourse Brazil is in America too, but I don't think that is what you meant.)
Why did slashdot not have a single poll on the world cup. The comments on the top of the page just add to my hypothesis that the /. people don't even pretend to care for their international readers.
the media (what a great surprise) make a big fuss about this after watching 30 replays from 50 different angles for hours and hours.
Most of the "mistakes" where borderline situations in which the referess (or mostly their assistants) did not have a celar view of what was going on.
The "disallowed" goal of Spain against Korea for example (it is not really disallowed, it was never scored and given for good), the ball is crossed when it is exactly in the line. Check a replay, the linesman has at least two players obstructing his view of a very borderline situation.
We the public saw the best angle and the media cried murder. Sorry, but it seems like the media and the public are living parallel realities to what really happens in a pitch where difficult decissions have to be taken in a matter of instants.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.