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New Red Hat Beta: LIMBO

joyoflinux writes: "Red Hat has released a beta version of its distribution, called LIMBO. It includes the latest desktop technology, gcc 3.1, Mozilla 1.0+, OpenOffice 1.0, and much more. You can download it here or use a mirror. Submit bugs here." Here's the announcement.

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  1. good stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's got Gnome 2, KDE 3.01, GCC 3.1. Pretty good deal...

    But I will stay with Gentoo Linux. :)

  2. Re:Version 8? by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Informative

    New gcc version means this is most definitely destined to be Red Hat 8.0.

    They will probably change glibc versions in a major way also.

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  3. Re:Code named software by BJH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    See here for a page that goes into more detail than any sane person could possibly want about the Red Hat release names.

  4. Re:Code named software by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All Red Hat code names so far have been connected by a double meaning. This page documents the connections found so far. The link between 'Valhalla' and 'Limbo' should be clear. The link between Valhalla and Skipjack hasn't been posted here yet, though ISTR that they are both islands.

  5. Five Discs! by 0xA · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So I go and connect to a nice mirror and get ready do d/l myself some ISOs. There are five of them. FIVE!

    I imagine some of them are SRPMs or something but they aren't labeled as such. They have open office and a bunch of stuff on there though, maybe not. I am afraid that if I don't d/l and burn all five I'm going to get half way through an install and need disc 5 for some silly package. The last time I installed 7.3 on a server I needed all three, the install size was only 400 MB too.

    Why can't Red Hat build thier disc images with Disc 1 being the base, disc 2 being X and Gnome, 3 being Open Office, etc. I can't imagine any benefit to spreading things out so much.

    1. Re:Five Discs! by silvaran · · Score: 5, Informative

      This started with 7.3. Likely the first three discs contain RPMs, while the last three contain SRPMs. Why the overlap? Disc 3 is half RPM and half SRPM. Just d/l the first three. You might even be able to get away with the first two depending on the kind of install, but I don't know enough about how they position their RPMs on the discs to be able to tell. I recommend you check the listing of RPMs on the third disc (it should be available in the FTP tree) to see if you need it, or can do without it.

  6. Re:Version 8? by JPriest · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to know what package versions various distros and betas are using go to distrowatch.com. A list of packages for the top 10 distros can be found here

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  7. Re:Does it have any reliable update techniques? by crush · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yup, there's a nice little app called "up2date" which you should take a look at. This allows you to get the latest rpms from the Red Hat Network. It's pretty good actually.

  8. Complaints about 5 CDs by smallstepforman · · Score: 5, Funny

    For those people who are moaning about 5 disks, all you really need is the net install disk image, which conveniently fits on a 1.44 floppy. Then you can spend 4 hours downloading the beast, 3 hours configuring, 2 hours cursing, then reboot and continue playing MoH:AA on the other system which we wont mention ;-)

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  9. Changelog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anonymous because karma is meaningless, but changelogs are not. This took a lot of hand editing to get past the lameness filter, thanks Malda and thanks crapflooders.

    The Netscape Web browser has been removed.

    The RPM Package Manager (RPM) verifies digital signatures when reading packages during installation. In order to verify signatures for packages after installation, the package's public key must be imported into the rpm database. For example, to import the Red Hat public key, type the following as root at a shell prompt:

    rpm --import /usr/lib/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY
    After importing the public key, you can verify package digest and signature information using the following command:

    rpm --checksig package_name

    RPM will also suggest package(s) that will satisfy unresolved dependencies if the rpmdb-redhat package is installed. For example, if you are attempting to upgrade the gnumeric without a necessary library, you will see the following message:

    rpm -Uvh gnumeric-1.0.5-5.i386.rpm
    error: Failed dependencies:
    libbonobo-print.so.2 is needed by
    gnumeric-1.0.5-5

    libbonobo.so.2 is needed by
    gnumeric-1.0.5-5
    libbonobox.so.2 is needed by gnumeric-1.0.5-5

    Suggested resolutions:
    bonobo-1.0.20-3.i386.rpm
    The above mechanism is equivalent to (and will replace) the existing --redhatprovides mechanism.

    GNU Ghostscript has been upgraded to version 7.05.

    By default, top and ps only display the main (initial) thread of thread-aware processes. To show all threads, use the command ps -m or type [H] in top.

    The junkbuster proxy filter package has been replaced by the privoxy package which can now filter animations, pop-ups, refresh tags, and webbugs. Privoxy is configurable at run-time by pointing your browser to http://p.p and choosing options from the menu.

    Red Hat Linux 7.3.92 contains the following new configuration and system tools:

    Red Hat Log Viewer (redhat-logviewer)

    Red Hat NFS Configuration Tool (redhat-config-nfs)

    Red Hat Samba Configuration Tool (redhat-config-samba)

    Red Hat X Configuration Tool (redhat-config-xfree86)

    Red Hat Sound Card Configuration Tool (redhat-config-soundcard)

    Red Hat Language Selection Tool (redhat-config-language)

    Red Hat Keyboard Configuration Tool (redhat-config-keyboard)

    Red Hat Mouse Configuration Tool (redhat-config-mouse)

    Red Hat Root Password Tool (redhat-config-rootpassword)

    Red Hat Security Level Configuration Tool (redhat-config-securitylevel)

    Package Reorganization
    The following packages have been replaced.

    ucd-snmp - replaced by net-snmp
    gtop - replaced by gnome-system-monitor
    gphoto - replaced by gphoto2
    console-tools - replaced by kbd
    junkbuster - replaced by privoxy

    The following packages are currently not included but will be in a future version.

    gnomemeeting openh323 pwlib rpm2html rpmfind

    The following packages have been removed from this release of Red Hat Linux.

    alien blt dip fvwm2 ee elm extace gnomeicu gnome-pim gnorpm ical jikes kaffe metamailmi cq netscape playmidi rxvt sliplogin taper xbill xdaliclock xlockmore xmailbox xpilot

    The following packages have been deprecated and will be removed in a future release of Red Hat Linux.
    LPRng

    Kernel Notes
    The kernel used in this release supports the following list of improvements and new features. The kernel is based on the 2.4.19- pre10-ac2 release for this beta.

    HZ=1000 on i686 and Athlon means that the system clock ticks 10 times as fast as on other x86 platforms (i386 and i586); HZ=100 has been the Linux default on x86 platforms for the entire history of the Linux kernel. This change provides better interactive response, lower latency response from some programs, and better response from the scheduler. We have adjusted the /proc filesystem to report numbers as if using the default HZ=100, but it is possible that issues could arise -- please test and report bugs, as always. Adaptec's latest hardware that supports the new Ultra 320 SCSI standard is now supported. It is a new driver, so if you have the hardware, test and report any issues that you encounter.

    The latest aacraid driver now has 64-bit support, and so should have much higher performance on systems with more than 4GB of memory when you use the "bigmem" kernel.

    The network console and crash dump functionality from Red Hat Linux Advanced Server 2.1 has been ported to this release. Documentation for setting this up is included in the netdump and netdump-server packages and is also available as a whitepaper at the following URL:
    http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/netdu mp/index.html

    This beta contains a kernel providing EA and ACL support for the ext3 for setting this up is included in the netdump and netdump-server packages and is also available as aw whitepaper at the following URL:
    http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/netdu mp/index.html

    This beta contains a kernel providing EA and ACL support for the ext3 filesystem based on the patches and user-level tools from
    http://acl.bestbits.at/

    The support for EA and ACL is included in several packages:
    kernel provides the support for storing EAs and ACLs on disk for ext3 filesystems provides the system calls to manipulate EAs and ACLs; and provides the mechanisms to enforce ACLs on file access.

    e2fsprogs includes knowledge of the new on-disk extended attribute formats so that fsck can check filesystems using the new feature.

    attr provide access to extended attributes attached to libattr files

    acl provide tools to set, modify and query the ACLs set libacl on files

    libattr-devel libraries and include files to build programs using libacl-devel, acl, and attr

  10. Re:Code named software by suss · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Limbo" means it'll actually never come out. ;-)

    No, that would be "Woody".