Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the no-surprises-here dept.
Les writes "Mac insider site Think Secret has its scoop on what Apple CEO Steve Jobs will announce at Macworld Expo in New York next week. The site says that Power Mac G4s won't be updated until August, but we'll instead see a 17" flat-panel iMac and a demo of OS X 10.2 Jaguar."
Jaguar or Jagwer or...
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Interesting
Do you think apple (has it was said before) will improve linux binaries support from the 10.2? There is always a big buzz arround MacWorld, but all the news that come out are always first in the rumors.
Yeah, Think Secret is reliable
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francism
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· Score: 5, Interesting
Seriously, Think Secret might be the only rumor site still spewing out stuff on a daily basis, but they have NO RELIABILITY!
Before AppleInsider disappeared and As the Apple Turns turned into a 'sometimes weekly depending on the baby' show, Think Secret was the joke of the Mac community. They were like Weekly World News; amusing but you knew you were reading garbage.
Now we are expected to take their 'rumors' as fact? Sure, they can speculate like everyone else, but the fact that Slashdot and CNET News.com run the story at all is embarassing.
The guy does this for hits, plain and simple. If they were somewhat reliable, don't you think that Apple would take them down? This especially holds true when the mass media picks up the story.
iMac prices here in my country
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fabiolrs
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Here in Brazil all Apple machines are import from the US. Ok, no problem with that, the problem is that a iMac, while costing $1,400 in the US, costs almost $3,000 here!:((( Sure we have taxes, but 3,000? Come on Apple, I would buy one for 2,000!!!!:))
C|Net has an article that almost mirrors what ThinkSecret is saying.
Personally, I'm happy with my PowerBook, so if the big news is getting 10.2 on August 5, I'll be happy.
-- "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
Re:i like mac and all but..
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Alan+Partridge
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· Score: 3, Interesting
it's built into the machine, numb-nuts. Apple have been selling larger screens for years. But we're all really impressed with your big LCD - I bet it drives all the girls crazy when you tell them about it.
-- That was classic intercourse!
Re:Take This With a Grain of Salt
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Alan+Partridge
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the.Mac nugget is gleaned from beta builds of OSX that they've obtained wherein - apparently - iTools is rebranded as.Mac. This could be a ruse on Apple's part to wind up the rumour mongers (who they HATE) or a working title or any one of a hundred other things. Face it TS, nothing's 100% until it's in the shops - and even then it might die due to any number of reasons. Think Cube.
-- That was classic intercourse!
No matter what
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feldsteins
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· Score: 5, Interesting
No matter what Apple finally announces, at this or any other keynote, about half the comments in these forums will be filled with "no big deal" or "The Man is trying to crush us!" or some other wacky thing. Sometimes intelligent conversation about the Macintosh platform is hard to come by on slashdot. And that's a shame.
I'm thinking back to when the iPod was branded "lame" on the front page of slashdot within minutes of it being announced. Of course it if had run Linux it would have been heralded as an indredible technological breakthrough and an "industry leading" product and a shining example of why open source software is better than other kinds.
-- You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
Improved powermacs
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Space+Coyote
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· Score: 3, Interesting
If anything, Apple would be stupid not to bring some of the technology from the Xserve into their desktops, like DDR RAM. If they leave new Power Macs off of the table completely I think we can be sure that they'll come shortly afterward, with the only reason for a delay being inventory backlog of current G4 units and supply problems with faster G4 chips.
"The other rumor was the resurrection of the Cube, bundled with 17" flatscreens"
I'll take one of those! Particularly if they make them in purple this time, to match my Nintendo Cube. A friend has one of the Apple Cubes from last time, and they are a thing of beauty and a joy to behold.
-- "I Know You Are But What Am I?"
Official word from an Apple Sales Rep:
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linuxbert
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· Score: 2, Interesting
"I see no inventory showing for all PowerMacs, and existing orders are not being filled. MacWorld is next week. 'Nuff said."
Zdnet and Cnet spilled the iMac beans last night
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Arcturax
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Both of them stole Jobs thunder, I wonder if they will join the MacWorld blacklist now?
Then again, if Jobs doesn't throw a wobbler and Apple did let them post this early, then that can only mean that Jobs is still sitting on something else that is very significant.
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--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
The rumor is part wrong!
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 2, Interesting
My employer is a system integrator for professionnal digital video editing solutions (www.Avid.com)
Since there is no more G4's available anywhere in Canada whe asked hard question to our supplier and where told to be patient and that we would be selling our systems on G5 by Wednesday 17... This one aint a "maybe".
But... dont tell anyone... its a secret!
Thereza
Re:Apple's long-term trouble.
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nobodyman
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Are you seriously claiming that a 2.5 GHz x86 processor (Intel, AMD or whatever) is exactly 2.5 times "faster" than a 1 GHz PowerPC G4 chip?
Um, no. I'm re-reading my post to try to fathom where you came up to with that. Let me restate.
Fastest x86 cpu 2 yrs ago: 1ghz Fastest x86 today: 2.5ghz Speed gain: 250 percent
What I'm saying is that either a) the G4 is reaching the end of it's lifecycle or b) Motorola sucks. I'm leaning towards b). Either way, Apple has a problem on their hands. They need to up the cpu speeds and especially the bus speeds (as another post intelligently pointed out).
Holding my breath for Jaguar
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shmert
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· Score: 2, Interesting
I'll be thrilled if they release Jaguar (although I think it will be 10.5, not 10.2), mostly because of the improvements to Mail. Those #*&!%# spammers finally got ahold of my email address, and the new Mail app has excellent spam filtering. That, and the ability to specify a port# for your SMTP server, so I don't need to keep switching from mail.earthlink.net to mail.pacbell.net when I take my laptop from home to work, since both ISPs block traffic on those ports to any other server. Lots of other goodies in there, too.
-- You drank my drink, you drunk!
Consider the source
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inkswamp
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Mac rumor sites are a strange thing (are there such things for the Wintel world? I really don't know.) I've monitored them for some time and I can say that the only one with any track record to speak of is macosrumors.com. They have consistently outguessed nearly every Apple announcement that I've seen in the last two years, and they only publish stories when something is worth publishing. I suspect the person behind the site has some knowledge of journalistic methods and waits until he can independently verify news before reporting. The site really is shockingly accurate and I suspect the publisher has lots of contacts with beta-testers and Apple seed recipients willing to quietly break their NDAs.
The only thing macosrumors didn't immediately predict was the flat-panel iMac, but they didn't have to. They mentioned it almost a year before its release (along with a couple schematics of its design) and then left the rumor alone.
Rumor sites are fun but should not be trusted. Mainstream sites reporting off those rumors should not be trusted either. Think Secret in particular has no credibility, but they often publish tantalizing screen shots prior to releases so they are worth watching for that only.
--Rick
-- --Rick
"If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
Slashdot Mirror
Do you think apple (has it was said before) will improve linux binaries support from the 10.2?
There is always a big buzz arround MacWorld, but all the news that come out are always first in the rumors.
Seriously, Think Secret might be the only rumor site still spewing out stuff on a daily basis, but they have NO RELIABILITY! Before AppleInsider disappeared and As the Apple Turns turned into a 'sometimes weekly depending on the baby' show, Think Secret was the joke of the Mac community. They were like Weekly World News; amusing but you knew you were reading garbage. Now we are expected to take their 'rumors' as fact? Sure, they can speculate like everyone else, but the fact that Slashdot and CNET News.com run the story at all is embarassing. The guy does this for hits, plain and simple. If they were somewhat reliable, don't you think that Apple would take them down? This especially holds true when the mass media picks up the story.
Here in Brazil all Apple machines are import from the US. Ok, no problem with that, the problem is that a iMac, while costing $1,400 in the US, costs almost $3,000 here! :((( Sure we have taxes, but 3,000? Come on Apple, I would buy one for 2,000!!!! :))
Fabio - Sumare/Sao Paulo/Brazil/South America/Earth/Solar System/Milky Way/Universe
http://www.morroida.com.br
C|Net has an article that almost mirrors what ThinkSecret is saying. Personally, I'm happy with my PowerBook, so if the big news is getting 10.2 on August 5, I'll be happy.
"The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
it's built into the machine, numb-nuts. Apple have been selling larger screens for years. But we're all really impressed with your big LCD - I bet it drives all the girls crazy when you tell them about it.
That was classic intercourse!
the .Mac nugget is gleaned from beta builds of OSX that they've obtained wherein - apparently - iTools is rebranded as .Mac. This could be a ruse on Apple's part to wind up the rumour mongers (who they HATE) or a working title or any one of a hundred other things. Face it TS, nothing's 100% until it's in the shops - and even then it might die due to any number of reasons. Think Cube.
That was classic intercourse!
No matter what Apple finally announces, at this or any other keynote, about half the comments in these forums will be filled with "no big deal" or "The Man is trying to crush us!" or some other wacky thing. Sometimes intelligent conversation about the Macintosh platform is hard to come by on slashdot. And that's a shame.
I'm thinking back to when the iPod was branded "lame" on the front page of slashdot within minutes of it being announced. Of course it if had run Linux it would have been heralded as an indredible technological breakthrough and an "industry leading" product and a shining example of why open source software is better than other kinds.
You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
If anything, Apple would be stupid not to bring some of the technology from the Xserve into their desktops, like DDR RAM. If they leave new Power Macs off of the table completely I think we can be sure that they'll come shortly afterward, with the only reason for a delay being inventory backlog of current G4 units and supply problems with faster G4 chips.
___
Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum.
"The other rumor was the resurrection of the Cube, bundled with 17" flatscreens"
I'll take one of those! Particularly if they make them in purple this time, to match my Nintendo Cube. A friend has one of the Apple Cubes from last time, and they are a thing of beauty and a joy to behold.
"I Know You Are But What Am I?"
"I see no inventory showing for all PowerMacs, and existing orders are not
being filled. MacWorld is next week. 'Nuff said."
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-942608.html/ zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-942646.html
http:/
Both of them stole Jobs thunder, I wonder if they will join the MacWorld blacklist now?
Then again, if Jobs doesn't throw a wobbler and Apple did let them post this early, then that can only mean that Jobs is still sitting on something else that is very significant.
--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
My employer is a system integrator for professionnal digital video editing solutions (www.Avid.com)
Since there is no more G4's available anywhere in Canada whe asked hard question to our supplier and where told to be patient and that we would be selling our systems on G5 by Wednesday 17... This one aint a "maybe".
But... dont tell anyone... its a secret!
Thereza
Are you seriously claiming that a 2.5 GHz x86 processor (Intel, AMD or whatever) is exactly 2.5 times "faster" than a 1 GHz PowerPC G4 chip?
Um, no. I'm re-reading my post to try to fathom where you came up to with that. Let me restate.
Fastest x86 cpu 2 yrs ago: 1ghz
Fastest x86 today: 2.5ghz
Speed gain: 250 percent
Fastest g4 2 years ago: 766mhz
Fastest g4 today: 1ghz
Speed gain: 30 percent
What I'm saying is that either a) the G4 is reaching the end of it's lifecycle or b) Motorola sucks. I'm leaning towards b). Either way, Apple has a problem on their hands. They need to up the cpu speeds and especially the bus speeds (as another post intelligently pointed out).
I'll be thrilled if they release Jaguar (although I think it will be 10.5, not 10.2), mostly because of the improvements to Mail. Those #*&!%# spammers finally got ahold of my email address, and the new Mail app has excellent spam filtering. That, and the ability to specify a port# for your SMTP server, so I don't need to keep switching from mail.earthlink.net to mail.pacbell.net when I take my laptop from home to work, since both ISPs block traffic on those ports to any other server. Lots of other goodies in there, too.
You drank my drink, you drunk!
The only thing macosrumors didn't immediately predict was the flat-panel iMac, but they didn't have to. They mentioned it almost a year before its release (along with a couple schematics of its design) and then left the rumor alone.
Rumor sites are fun but should not be trusted. Mainstream sites reporting off those rumors should not be trusted either. Think Secret in particular has no credibility, but they often publish tantalizing screen shots prior to releases so they are worth watching for that only.
--Rick
--Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."