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CmdrTaco
on from the no-surprises-here dept.
Les writes "Mac insider site Think Secret has its scoop on what Apple CEO Steve Jobs will announce at Macworld Expo in New York next week. The site says that Power Mac G4s won't be updated until August, but we'll instead see a 17" flat-panel iMac and a demo of OS X 10.2 Jaguar."
There goes their ticket to Macworld...
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1010011010
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· Score: 5, Funny
I assume they're "on the list," now.
-- Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Rumors! The Expo has not yet happened.
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EchoMirage
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Unfortunately Taco forgot to denote that these are rumors. Although Think Secret claims to "know" definitively, they only publish rumors based on heresay, second-hand knowledge, and claimed industry "insiders." Many times, they have been wrong.
If you will remember a day or three ago, sites like Think Secret were prevented from obtaining a media pass to the Expo because of their ability to wildly spin incorrect information (amongst other conspiracy theories).
In other words, this is only a possibility, but the Expo hasn't happened yet.
Re:Rumors! The Expo has not yet happened.
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Saint+Fnordius
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1. ThinkSecret is less than useless, since their rumor hit miss ratio is equal to "dart board" methods.
2. Ziff-Davis (ZDNet and C|Net) seem to be the source of this smokescreen. Also not the most accurate source of Apple news. Sometimes I get the feeling that the guys over at C|Net are more knee-jerk than factual (although David Coursey got real Mac-lustful after his trial with a flat-screen iMac).
3. The other rumor was the resurrection of the Cube, bundled with 17" flatscreens. After all, the Cube wasn't killed, just put into hibernation. Maybe they had to pull it back out of the freezer to make room for Ted Williams?
4. If it is true, then Apple needs to lower their inventory of current iMacs, as their price is going to drop as soon as the bigger, better version hits the market. The only explanation as to why they haven't done so yet is because they know it's a sign the sages look for. But it isn't a good reason at all. 5. There was a fifth reason to discount this rumor, but the RDF rays are wearing off. Fnord.
Flawed reasoning
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YanceyAI
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According to the article:
How are we so certain that Macworld won't bring new towers? Use common sense! Just look at the Apple promotion announced earlier this week offering $300-$500 back when a Power Mac G4 is purchased along with a 17-inch Studio Display, 22-inch Cinema Display, or 23-inch Cinema HD Display. This is a clear sign that Apple is sitting on a huge inventory of G4 towers.(emphasis mine)
I'm not saying that they're wrong, just that the speculation is weak. They may have a ton of displays, or they may be trying to move the inventory for the very fact that they are releasing a new tower.
-- Can I bum a sig?
Take This With a Grain of Salt
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TomHandy
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ThinkSecret is one of the less accurate rumor sites......and I don't think they're even all that good. Look at their explanation for why they are so sure G4 speed bumps won't be announced.....all they are going on is "common sense" that there is a special promotion running right now for current G4's.
And some of their other rumors reported for Macworld New York are patently ridiculous, despite being labeled as 100%....i.e. iTools being renamed.Mac.....which is so inherently stupid it isn't even funny, considering that the name makes no sense at all since it would only cause consumer confusion, especially since there is no.mac TLD to use for such a thing. And it would probably add unnecessary confusion with.NET as well, even though iTools and.NET are not really related technologies or systems at all.
Yeah, Think Secret is reliable
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francism
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· Score: 5, Interesting
Seriously, Think Secret might be the only rumor site still spewing out stuff on a daily basis, but they have NO RELIABILITY!
Before AppleInsider disappeared and As the Apple Turns turned into a 'sometimes weekly depending on the baby' show, Think Secret was the joke of the Mac community. They were like Weekly World News; amusing but you knew you were reading garbage.
Now we are expected to take their 'rumors' as fact? Sure, they can speculate like everyone else, but the fact that Slashdot and CNET News.com run the story at all is embarassing.
The guy does this for hits, plain and simple. If they were somewhat reliable, don't you think that Apple would take them down? This especially holds true when the mass media picks up the story.
C|Net has an article that almost mirrors what ThinkSecret is saying.
Personally, I'm happy with my PowerBook, so if the big news is getting 10.2 on August 5, I'll be happy.
-- "The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
Macworlds are always ruined by high expectations
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elliotj
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The problem with the Mac web is that expectations run much higher than Apple can realistically deliver. So there's always a lot of hype prior to a Macworld and then much dissapointment following. Just look at the iPod: when it launched, the/. discussion was very critical, but now there's an abundance of stories about what a ground breaking product it is. That's ass-backwards if you ask me.
So, I'd like to help make this a better Macworld, and at risk of incurring the wrath of Apple, I'd like to give you my rumor list for what we'll see:
- A return to beige towers and CRT monitors - No more G4s. All Macs will now run on 1st generation G3s - Mac OS 9 will rise from the dead, and Steve will hold a funeral for unix (which is, afterall, dying.... if you believe the trolls around here). - An all new iPod will be 5 times the size and hold upto 7 songs!
There it is. Don't hold your breath, but I think this is what we'll be seeing next week.
Steve and the PDA...
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soboroff
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"0% - Mac PDA or tablet
Our sources tell us Steve Jobs constantly complains about how bad the user experience is for Mac users using PDAs. From one source: "'Why is it so complicated?', Jobs has often said." Apple is working on something, that's for sure."
I wonder if the user experience with PDAs wouldn't have been so bad if Jobs hadn't killed the Newton. I love my Palm, but I can't count how many times I wished it was a 4oz Newton!
No matter what
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feldsteins
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No matter what Apple finally announces, at this or any other keynote, about half the comments in these forums will be filled with "no big deal" or "The Man is trying to crush us!" or some other wacky thing. Sometimes intelligent conversation about the Macintosh platform is hard to come by on slashdot. And that's a shame.
I'm thinking back to when the iPod was branded "lame" on the front page of slashdot within minutes of it being announced. Of course it if had run Linux it would have been heralded as an indredible technological breakthrough and an "industry leading" product and a shining example of why open source software is better than other kinds.
-- You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
Re:iMac prices here in my country
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Large+Green+Mallard
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I dunno if they are trolling or not. Some carracho bandits out there are reporting that this is the latest builds of Jaguar, under the Internet tab in the System Preferences (where it is currently iTools).
Some have speculated that this might be Apple competing w/ Microsoft as far as brand recognition (note these are pretty much the same people who said the same thing when Microsoft decided to call the latest Windows "XP" about a month before OS X 10.0.0 was released).
However, for my own useless speculation, I don't think this will be a direct competitor to the.Net idea, but being a fairly nice set of network services (homepage, file storage, email, iCards, etc) might make some think that it is close enough.
Just my humble opinion.
-- "Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
CPU is, literally, small apples.
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2nd+Post!
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The CPUs, at 800MHz or higher, is no big thing. Really.
The current bus speeds, at 133MHz, is nearly 6-8 times slower than the the CPU. Some of that memory bandwidth is also being allocated the AGP, DMA transfers, firewire transfers, and just about anything else in the Apple mobo that uses the RAM. So the CPU is *starving* at the GHz level, especially at the dual CPU level.
Being force to wait 10 cycles while waiting for memory is bad.
On the PC side a CPU may be 2GHz now, but the memory is also quad pumped 133MHz as well. 2x the CPU but *4* times the memory bandwidth.
So yes Apple needs faster CPUs, but they need faster memory even more.
Bullshit rumor. Current Powermac G4 EOl'd
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d0n+quix0te
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· Score: 5, Informative
The current crop of PMG4's have been EOL'd. Yup. Limited shelf life plus great discount packages can only mean one thing:
New PowerMacs at MacWorld!!! ---- http://www.cube-zone.com/ reports: The current PowerMac line has been EOled.... the current PowerMac line (800 Mhz, 933 Mhz and dual 1 Ghz) has been EOled. Computers dealers cannot order those computers from Apple anymore...
Slashdot Mirror
I assume they're "on the list," now.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Unfortunately Taco forgot to denote that these are rumors. Although Think Secret claims to "know" definitively, they only publish rumors based on heresay, second-hand knowledge, and claimed industry "insiders." Many times, they have been wrong.
If you will remember a day or three ago, sites like Think Secret were prevented from obtaining a media pass to the Expo because of their ability to wildly spin incorrect information (amongst other conspiracy theories).
In other words, this is only a possibility, but the Expo hasn't happened yet.
How are we so certain that Macworld won't bring new towers? Use common sense! Just look at the Apple promotion announced earlier this week offering $300-$500 back when a Power Mac G4 is purchased along with a 17-inch Studio Display, 22-inch Cinema Display, or 23-inch Cinema HD Display. This is a clear sign that Apple is sitting on a huge inventory of G4 towers. (emphasis mine)
I'm not saying that they're wrong, just that the speculation is weak. They may have a ton of displays, or they may be trying to move the inventory for the very fact that they are releasing a new tower.
Can I bum a sig?
And some of their other rumors reported for Macworld New York are patently ridiculous, despite being labeled as 100%....i.e. iTools being renamed .Mac.....which is so inherently stupid it isn't even funny, considering that the name makes no sense at all since it would only cause consumer confusion, especially since there is no .mac TLD to use for such a thing. And it would probably add unnecessary confusion with .NET as well, even though iTools and .NET are not really related technologies or systems at all.
Seriously, Think Secret might be the only rumor site still spewing out stuff on a daily basis, but they have NO RELIABILITY! Before AppleInsider disappeared and As the Apple Turns turned into a 'sometimes weekly depending on the baby' show, Think Secret was the joke of the Mac community. They were like Weekly World News; amusing but you knew you were reading garbage. Now we are expected to take their 'rumors' as fact? Sure, they can speculate like everyone else, but the fact that Slashdot and CNET News.com run the story at all is embarassing. The guy does this for hits, plain and simple. If they were somewhat reliable, don't you think that Apple would take them down? This especially holds true when the mass media picks up the story.
C|Net has an article that almost mirrors what ThinkSecret is saying. Personally, I'm happy with my PowerBook, so if the big news is getting 10.2 on August 5, I'll be happy.
"The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
The problem with the Mac web is that expectations run much higher than Apple can realistically deliver. So there's always a lot of hype prior to a Macworld and then much dissapointment following. Just look at the iPod: when it launched, the /. discussion was very critical, but now there's an abundance of stories about what a ground breaking product it is. That's ass-backwards if you ask me.
.... if you believe the trolls around here).
So, I'd like to help make this a better Macworld, and at risk of incurring the wrath of Apple, I'd like to give you my rumor list for what we'll see:
- A return to beige towers and CRT monitors
- No more G4s. All Macs will now run on 1st generation G3s
- Mac OS 9 will rise from the dead, and Steve will hold a funeral for unix (which is, afterall, dying
- An all new iPod will be 5 times the size and hold upto 7 songs!
There it is. Don't hold your breath, but I think this is what we'll be seeing next week.
CNET has a story on the 17inchers too.
So close and yet so far from the world's perfect ID number
- The current Apple Macintosh line will be cancelled.
- New Apple computers, such as the Golden Delicious and Granny Smith will be unveiled.
What do you think?
Slashdot's first reaction to VMware
No matter what Apple finally announces, at this or any other keynote, about half the comments in these forums will be filled with "no big deal" or "The Man is trying to crush us!" or some other wacky thing. Sometimes intelligent conversation about the Macintosh platform is hard to come by on slashdot. And that's a shame.
I'm thinking back to when the iPod was branded "lame" on the front page of slashdot within minutes of it being announced. Of course it if had run Linux it would have been heralded as an indredible technological breakthrough and an "industry leading" product and a shining example of why open source software is better than other kinds.
You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
Brazil has tried this before.. have a look at http://www.applefritter.com/macclones/unitron/ for a 1980's Brazillian Mac clone :)
It's... slightly larger!!
Some have speculated that this might be Apple competing w/ Microsoft as far as brand recognition (note these are pretty much the same people who said the same thing when Microsoft decided to call the latest Windows "XP" about a month before OS X 10.0.0 was released).
However, for my own useless speculation, I don't think this will be a direct competitor to the .Net idea, but being a fairly nice set of network services (homepage, file storage, email, iCards, etc) might make some think that it is close enough.
Just my humble opinion.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
The CPUs, at 800MHz or higher, is no big thing. Really.
The current bus speeds, at 133MHz, is nearly 6-8 times slower than the the CPU. Some of that memory bandwidth is also being allocated the AGP, DMA transfers, firewire transfers, and just about anything else in the Apple mobo that uses the RAM. So the CPU is *starving* at the GHz level, especially at the dual CPU level.
Being force to wait 10 cycles while waiting for memory is bad.
On the PC side a CPU may be 2GHz now, but the memory is also quad pumped 133MHz as well. 2x the CPU but *4* times the memory bandwidth.
So yes Apple needs faster CPUs, but they need faster memory even more.
Let's hope for DDR interfaces come MWNY
GPL Deconstructed
The current crop of PMG4's have been EOL'd. Yup. Limited shelf life plus great discount packages can only mean one thing:
... the current PowerMac line (800 Mhz, 933 Mhz and dual 1 Ghz) has been EOled. Computers dealers cannot order those computers from Apple anymore...
New PowerMacs at MacWorld!!!
----
http://www.cube-zone.com/ reports:
The current PowerMac line has been EOled.
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