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C++ Inventor Changing Jobs

Posted by chrisd on from the stl-at-a-and-m dept.

JewFish writes "Dr. Bjarne Stroustrup, designer and implementer of the C++ programming language is switching jobs. He has accepted the COE Endowed Chair in Computer Science at Texas A&M University. The fulfillment of this fulltime position was announced today by the head of the computer science department. Now that Dr. Stroustrup will be on faculty I sure hope they start offering a C++ course or two."

95 comments

  1. Just imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    in a job interview saing something like... "Yes I know C++, I learned it from Dr. Stroustrup. You know... they guy who invented it?" I'm switching universities!

    1. Re:Just imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is "Danish 210" a prerequsite for this course?

    2. Re:Just imagine... by raider_red · · Score: 1

      It still won't help their football team.

      --
      It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
    3. Re:Just imagine... by thogard · · Score: 2

      I took a C & Unix course from a Dr Lan at the University of Missouri-Columbia. I posted a few of his test questions to the comp.lang.c group. The funny thing is that dmr replied with the same answer as I put on the test and got it wrong. After getting a D in the class I went through the fromal appleals process. When I showed dr lan the answer was in the k&r book, hs said he didn't recognize the auhority of that book. Since the asst dean of engr knew about the book and who wrote it, it made my point clear but I only got a B out of the class. Now what is the standard shell under unix? everyone say "seashell". Problem is the idiot is still teaching.

    4. Re:Just imagine... by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      A Red Raider dissing a football team on Slashdot. I've seen it all.

      Postage went up July 1st by the way. Maybe Leach should pay back all of that gas money he jacked to pay for all of his trips to the liquor store.

    5. Re:Just imagine... by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1

      Just be sure you prononce his name correctly!

    6. Re:Just imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much more evidence do you need that university is over-rated, and a cult?

      Going back for more, though, I'll bet...

    7. Re:Just imagine... by Zenki · · Score: 2

      College is good. It teaches you to:
      a) Socialize with the right people (aka ta's) to get them to soften up on you for grades.
      b) Realize that deadlines can always be pushed back with an appropriate excuse.
      c) Learn that fact that the only important thing about learning is learning where to find information quickly.
      d) Apply these principles, among others, to your jobs after you graduate.

    8. Re:Just imagine... by NorthDude · · Score: 1

      Maybe you were joking, but to succeed in today's world, the above are so much real...

      And about point c, I really think that to know how and where to search is as important as knowing a lot. It's good to know many things, but if you have no methodology when it is time to discover new thing, you will get stuck to where you are.

      --


      I'd rather be sailing...
  2. Surprising, or unlikely? by jdennett · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Given that only a few days ago I was in dialog with Mr Stroustrup regarding publicising some work he is publishing at
    http://www.research.att.com/~bs/applications.htm l it would be surprising to me if he had made plans to abandon his post at AT&T so suddenly.

    On the other hand, AT&T research did recently shed a large number of staff, including Matt Austern, author of the fine book "Generic Programming and the STL" (fear not, Matt is now working for Apple), so who knows what's going on there.

    Teaching is something Bjarne feels very strongly about, and indeed his "directions for C++0x" thoughts emphasize the importance of making C++ easier to teach.

    Ah well, if this is true, a lot of FAQs will need to have updated URLs...

    1. Re:Surprising, or unlikely? by jvanfickell · · Score: 1

      Read the official announcement from the Texas A&M Univeristy Department of Computer Science for yourself.

  3. Good Doctor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can tell hes a really good teacher by reading his books. they are all very well explained and very clear. i would give him an a++ for c++!!!!!!!!!

    1. Re:Good Doctor by BoBaBrain · · Score: 3, Funny

      i would give him an a++ for c++

      I think he would much rather a ++A.
      ;)

      --
      I am a Karma Library.
  4. Trollzilla! by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1, Insightful


    That's amazing! Why waste your time on trolling? Surely cleaning lint from your belly button is more important.

    Other activities more interesting, satisfying, and productive than trolling:

    Be more frou-frou than Martha Stewart: Clean all the seeds from a box of strawberries.

    Count the ants in an ant colony. Give each of them a name.

    Watch carefully as a seed becomes a large oak tree.

    1. Re:Trollzilla! by sinserve · · Score: 1

      Well said.

  5. Mabye it means he will make C++ better by bastard42 · · Score: 1

    Maybe he will add functional programming to C++. It can hang out with OO, generic, and structural programming. That would be awesome.

    I'm joking... kindof.

    1. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Functional (higher order functions) + objective + parametric polymorphism + type inference. Efficient native compilation. Check ocaml (from the ML language familly). Forget C++. http://www.ocaml.org

    2. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by coleSLAW · · Score: 1

      You think you're joking huh? Check out template metaprogramming.

      --

      == I am not Me.

    3. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or don't, and just use Lisp instead. Your brain will be healthier in the long run :-)

    4. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We also need relational and logic programming. But remember, always give the user the ability to shoot himself in the foot, because that's what he /really/ wants!

      What the hell! Throw it all in!

    5. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We also need relational and logic programming. But remember, always give the user the ability to shoot himself in the foot, because that's what he /really/ wants!

      Damn right! I want everything, including the kitchen sink in my programming languages.

      Minimal? Clean? Elegant? Bah!

      There is a reason C++ and Perl are my favorite langagues. [Seriously not a troll, I swear].

      Actually the only thing I really want added to C++ language-wise is closures. Though you can fake them pretty well with operator() a lot of the time.

    6. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by DJ+Uptime · · Score: 1

      Uh, I think the Lambda library is in Boost these days. (Too lazy to link.)

    7. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only real judges are time and the market. Lisp not doing so well.

    8. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      C++ templates are a compile time evaluated functional language.

      Not run time though, and in a lot of cases wwhere you need a value you use a type in template metaprogramming.

      angel'o'sphere

      P.S. search for template metaprogramming, there aewhere some good articles in C/C++ report and Dr. Jobbs.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    9. Re:Mabye it means he will make C++ better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, as if it isn't enough of an ugly hack already. C++ is the programming language equivalent of dog vomit.

  6. And in other news... by Garg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... Linus Torvalds is leaving TransMeta to become a professor at Southern Methodist.

    Seriously, where's the evidence of this? Not a single one of the links in the submission mentions a damn thing about it.

    Do the /. editors ever do a single bit of checking to see if a story is factual? If not, I've got quite a few articles involving politicians and livestock I've been wanting to submit...

    Garg

    --
    Garg
    Alumnus, Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters
    1. Re:And in other news... by rsidd · · Score: 2

      And if it's wrong they won't apologize, oh no, and you're rude to point it out.

    2. Re:And in other news... by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Did a google search. Came up with nuttin. This article is bogus.

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      Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
    3. Re:And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got quite a few articles involving politicians and livestock I've been wanting to submit...

      ...Clinton and Monica?

    4. Re:And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just look at http://www.cs.tamu.edu/news/items?id=56&PHPSESSID= a5090196b655fa156fd7d43f5010549d

    5. Re:And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey wait a minute. I go to SMU (i.e. Southern Methodist), and I didn't hear a damn thing about that... ;)

      But really, our engineering school (as far as CS goes) is kind of a joke. i hate to say it but we're definitely regarded as small time compared to some of the other schools' engineering programs (even smaller public schools like University of Texas at Dallas have better CS programs!); it's really too bad...all of the money goes to the pricks in the business school. Oh well.

  7. Lisp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon, he'll be able to fulfil his lifelong dream of learning Common Lisp...

  8. you don't want to be an aggie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They get killed by falling logs all the time. Boo yaa!

    1. Re:you don't want to be an aggie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      up yours, asshole!

    2. Re:you don't want to be an aggie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are fucking worthless garbage. The sad thing is you think you're funny.

      Pig

  9. amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, we've moved from troll posts to troll stories. Good job guys. I guess that's what happens when VA Linux misses a few paychecks and the "editors" have to get real jobs.

    Please, subscribe to slashdot (using ebay/paypal) so our beloved "editors" can "edit" full time!

  10. I go to TAMU by damu · · Score: 1

    And have heard numerous rumors about this, from many CS grad students, however I am not at TAMU now and can not confirm but to my knowledge this was already a reality even before the summer began.


    dam(TAMU)

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    Useless sig.
    1. Re:I go to TAMU by aliasmrchips · · Score: 1

      As suprising as it may sound, I assure you it is true.

    2. Re:I go to TAMU by SiliconSlick · · Score: 1

      As Mr. Chip's officemate I can confirm his confirmation.

  11. Re:ok, that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...so totally gay the way you said that. So what curls your toes? The beauty of C++ is that it can be totally re-written and make people stop and go, "WTF is this crap?!? Ka-rist Almighty, I can't even tell WTF this shit is doing!"

  12. Wow by dar · · Score: 1

    Stroustrup ... an Aggie? Whoda thunk it?

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    My other Slashdot ID is much lower.
  13. Wow! by glitchvern · · Score: 4, Informative

    I go to Texas A&M. Checking my cs e-mail account I find this:

    Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:30:50 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Jennifer Welch
    To: faculty@cs.tamu.edu, csgrads@cs.tamu.edu, csunder@cs.tamu.edu,
    watson@tamu.edu, rgd@tamu.edu, richard-ewing@tamu.edu
    Subject: Stroustrup accepts COE Endowed Chair in computer science
    Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:32:38 -0500 (CDT)
    Resent-From: csunder@cs.tamu.edu

    Bjarne Stroustrup, the inventor of the C++ language, has accepted
    our offer to fill the endowed chair in computer science!

    -- Jennifer

    So yeah, it looks like he's coming here. This is really amazing because our cs department sucks so much. Until very recently the cs unix servers would not forward X11 connections, /etc/shells was not readable, and ssh keys couldn't be used as a login method. It looks like ypcat passwd still gives me the password file (been meaning to go down there and tell them about that) and neither ypchsh nor chsh is installed so I still can't change my shell. That said they have been improving a lot lately and having talked to an associate head for the department recently they appear to be aware of some of the problems with the curriculum and are going to fix them. Too late for me though. In the four years I've been here I feel like I have learned almost nothing (well from the cs department that is).

    1. Re:Wow! by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

      heh be careful, at my uni when I told them about a readable password file they threatened to expel me for "hacking".

      --
      I live in a giant bucket.
    2. Re:Wow! by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1
      FWIW, I confirmed this directly with a faculty member I know there.

      I realize that until they post the news on their website, instead of posting the advertisement for the position Bjarne has reportedly accepted, this may be hard to believe.

      Does anyone have a scorecard of all the recent departures from AT&T Research?

      --
      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    3. Re:Wow! by pmineiro · · Score: 1


      This is really amazing because our cs department sucks so much. Until very recently the cs unix servers would not forward X11 connections, /etc/shells was not readable, and ssh keys couldn't be used as a login method. It looks like ypcat passwd still gives me the password file (been meaning to go down there and tell them about that) and neither ypchsh nor chsh is installed so I still can't change my shell.
      You know, computer science is different than unix system administration. Computer science is, fundamentally, the study of algorithms (which themselves are equivalence classes of physical processes). Your department may very well suck, but the fact that the unix boxes are poorly run does not necessarily make your case.

      -- p

    4. Re:Wow! by DJ+Uptime · · Score: 1

      That's Awesome. I'll be Bjarne can install ypchsh for you in a jiffy.

    5. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you still a student at TAMU ?

    6. Re:Wow! by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      The department does not suck. The problem is that you have a network/UNIX jockey mad because he had to do some real work.

      I got my BS in Comp Sci from A&M and I didn't really appreciate the education I was getting from there until I got out and worked with people who didn't know anything other than language semantics and technology.

      Most of the malcontents at A&M and every other department end up malcontents at whatever company they work for because so-and-so boss/teacher/admin is always an idiot.

    7. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      neither ypchsh nor chsh is installed so I still can't change my shell

      If they're using IRIX there is no chsh command.

      In the four years I've been here I feel like I have learned almost nothing (well from the cs department that is).

      An aggi who actually admits it!

      But seriously that puts you a leg up on most CS graduates who think they know everything after they graduate.

      On the otherhand if the CS department is really that bad perhaps you should have gone to a different school. UT, UNT, UTD, or TU are all fairly good schools, and not that hard to get in to, provided you're a Texas resident. You might want to look at grad school.

    8. Re:Wow! by glitchvern · · Score: 1
      If they're using IRIX there is no chsh command.
      Solaris
      perhaps you should have gone to a different school
      Perhaps, I didn't know it was that bad when I came. I didn't really figure it out until I was about a junior so it was pretty much to late to transfer or change majors. A&M is a good school, it's just the comp sci dept that isn't very good right now. They had a major change in the curriculum when I came in. I get the feeling they were better in the past and that they will be better in the future as they fix some of the problems with this curriculum, but that doesn't help me that much. I am probably a bit to harsh when I say they suck, but I'm kind of bitter about not learning much from the dept. UT's department is better than ours but I don't know how well I would have fit in there. I really do like the atmosphere here. Plus the cost of living here is really low. I don't know that I could afford to live in one of the big cities.
    9. Re:Wow! by glitchvern · · Score: 1
      Your department may very well suck, but the fact that the unix boxes are poorly run does not necessarily make your case.
      I know the misconfiguration is just the thing that is the most objectively wrong. There are other problems but they are more subjective.

      Most of the courses aren't hard enough.

      The advisors seem not to care about students when you go and talk to them.

      Some of the professors aren't very good (I had three bad professors in a row - One knew her stuff but had really bad public speaking skills. Another was there to do research and was downright hostile. The class eventually had a meeting with the department head about him he was so bad. The third was a grad student and it was his first time to teach. I think he'll make a good professor one day but he was very inexperienced and kind of didn't know what he was doing.)

      Also the curriculum had just been redone when I came in and there were some problems with it. They seem to be aware of the problems with the curriculum and are working to fix it, but it is still a problem. The dot com boom meant a lot of people were in cs because it was the place to be. The department ended up overloaded because it had a lot of people in it. Also since the courses were new their complaining that the courses were to hard was interpreted as legitimate feedback and the courses were then made to easy.

      My main problem is the courses being to easy. It feels like I haven't learned anything. But that's a subjective statement that can be easily dismissed as my opinion as can most of the other stuff as either my opinion, bad luck, or both. The misconfiguration is the only thing I can point to that is objectively just plain wrong.
    10. Re:Wow! by glitchvern · · Score: 1

      When were you here? There was a major curriculum change when I came in. It introduced a lot of problems. The unix machines being misconfigured is just something I can say is objectively wrong the other stuff is more subjective. The unix machines state doesn't bother me that much it's just a little annoying. My real problem is the courses are to easy and I don't think I'm learning anything. Maybe when I get out I'll realize I did learn something and the department doesn't suck as much as I thought it did like you did but I don't know. A lot of people entered comp sci during the dot com boom just because and I think the department may have made the courses easier. I'm generally a very cheerful person, but the comp sci department is a bit of a sore spot with me. Everytime I start to think they don't suck they go and do something to prove me wrong.

    11. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a small subset of teachers who, like teachers in every other program in the nation, can't teach worth a lick. However the classes are structured well enough, the textbooks are good enough, and the tests are hard enough that you actually end up learning a great deal.

      Good courses (no matter who teaches them):
      Artificial Intelligence
      Architecture
      Networking
      Real Time
      Special Topics - Quantum Computing

      Good courses with a certain prof:
      Algorithms with Welch
      Operating Systems with Childs
      Graphics with McCormick

      Profs who are always good (IMO):
      Welch
      Childs
      Furuta
      Friesen
      Leggett
      M cCormick
      - they aren't always entertaining (in fact most are downright boring) but their classes always are hard

      There are many I never had so don't think of this as a complete list. YOU get exactly out of your education at the CS department as what you put in. Some people graduate that know nothing...and maybe the department should do a better job of preventing that. However, the CS department provides ample opportunity to really and truly learn Computer Science as well as anyone from any other University.
      Avoid lecturers whenever possible...their classes are usually way too easy and you learn nothing. The harder a class is, the better it is.

      Bad courses no matter what:
      Computer Engineering (quite a shame too...Lively is bad and Simmons can't be trusted)

    12. Re:Wow! by faeryman · · Score: 1

      i was a CE major for a year, and was very unimpressed at it. they made such a big deal of me taking the intro C class 1st semester. wtf?

      the class was pretty bad anyway. Hurley taught it, but he has got to be the most condescending prof i've had in 3 years. he taught the assembly language classes, and other upper level classes, and he acted like teaching a lower level C class was the worst thing he could do. i can see how it would be boring though..

      i've heard good things about McCormick too.

      anyway,i know if i had stayed there a little bit longer i might have gotten more out of it. they've done alot to change in the past 4 years, but it's too late to go back and finish a major now.

      --


      ,
      faeryman
    13. Re:Wow! by elwing · · Score: 1

      Talk to Childs (I think he's still there) - he'll help you out if you think the classes are too easy. I graduated from the CS department in 2000, and I really enjoyed my stay there. I was able to take graduate level classes during my last two years, and that made up for the "easy" classes.

      As for the classes being easy - I've since gone on to graduate school, and comparing what I learned in ugrad to what others in my classes learned, I would have to say that A&M is a much better curriculum than most. Hell, Pooch for OS helped me pass the OS class at CMU.

      The admins in the CS dept suck - end of story - go find a job in the math or physics department - you'll find that they know what they're doing.

    14. Re:Wow! by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      The only class that I know of that Hurley has taught in the last 5 years is the intro class. He's the CS undergrad advisor.

    15. Re:Wow! by glitchvern · · Score: 1
      comparing what I learned in ugrad to what others in my classes learned, I would have to say that A&M is a much better curriculum than most
      Thanks, I've been worried about not knowing anything and always wondered if other schools were the same, better, worse, or what have you, but I have no basis for comparison. It's good to know other schools are just as bad.
  14. you're just angry because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your A&M education is worthless. And the logs only maimed you. Silly Aggies!

  15. aggies++ by hafcaf · · Score: 1

    Whoop! I'd say that is definitely an incremental improvement for A&M. And if he doesn't know how to play 42, he will soon.

    Gig 'em!

    --
    -hc- I always get the shakes before a drop...
    1. Re:aggies++ by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      What's "42"? Something out of a Douglas Adams book?

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    2. Re:aggies++ by SiliconSlick · · Score: 1

      A stupid silly way to play dominoes. Think of bridge
      or spades with 6 suits of 6 cards.

      Very popular amonst the rednecks in these parts
      who can't handle an entire 52 card deck.

    3. Re:aggies++ by Frisky070802 · · Score: 1

      I wish I could rate your response to my question, because it was ROTFL material. Thanks.

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      Mencken had it right. So glad that's old news.
    4. Re:aggies++ by fparnold · · Score: 1

      So what's "Gig 'Em!" sound like in Danish? (or Danish flavored with a strong New Jersey accent)?

  16. hook 'em! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is an Aggie anyway? Dead schmuck on a wood pile!

    1. Re:hook 'em! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: Whaddya call an Aggie, five years after graduation?
      A: Boss.

      As a loyal Longhorn, it pains me to say that Texas A&M is an excellent school (too!) Univ of Texas and Texas A&M are using their oil-fueled endowment dollars wisely and buying the best professors out there.

      "Kind of makes the has-been Ivy League schools look like a pile of puke!"
      -Moe (The Simpsons)

    2. Re:hook 'em! by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      Yup. You Longhorns keep pushing the envelope and we Aggies will be forced to up the ante out of pride and necessity. It'll always make us both better.

    3. Re:hook 'em! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone else think that this bullshit rivalry between the University of Texas and Texas A&M is a lot like two trailer park denizens arguing over whose doublewide can hold the most empty beer cans before needing to be cleaned out?

    4. Re:hook 'em! by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      Say hello to everyone up in Mobilehoma. Watch out for those tornadoes on your way to the monster truck rally. I hear those trailer parks are just like funnel cloud magnets or something.

  17. the sad thing is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am funny. How many Aggies does it take to build a bonfire? Hee hee. Stupid Aggies.

  18. Please be more careful with email addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Programs scour web pages, including /.'s, for email addresses. Do faculty@cs.tamu.edu want to know about low-cost viagra and oiled asian teens?

    1. Re:Please be more careful with email addresses by NixterAg · · Score: 1

      It rejects all mail that doesn't come from a small set of sources.

  19. Re:Mabye (sic) it means he will make C++ better by millette · · Score: 1
    I'm sure you are aware of boost, right? Their lambda library sounds just like the thing you need:

    http://www.boost.org/libs/lambda/doc/

  20. Very confusing by ken_mcneil · · Score: 1

    He must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. Clearly, a man this intellegent ment to be going to the only University of Texas. Seriously, that's what we're called THE University of Texas. This A&M place must be some sort of a hoax.

    This is not a troll. Just the results of four years of constant propaganda. Sorry, can't help it.

    1. Re:Very confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That Texas University should probably get a few spell checkers, to catch stuff like "ment".

    2. Re:Very confusing by ken_mcneil · · Score: 1

      First typo in the history of Slashdot. You got me!

    3. Re:Very confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Texas could be heaven on earth, if only they'd clear out all the spics and niggers.

  21. Re:What?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why did you get moderated down? Oh, I see. You didn't fall the party line. So much for free speech.

    C++ is a horrible language. It is the biggest mess that I've ever come across. Even BASIC is cleaner. I have learned and used a lot of programming languages over the years: C, ML, Ada, Pascal, Lisp, Scheme, awk, sed, Perl, Bourne Shell, Korn Shell, and many more. The only language that comes as close to the C++ as a nightmare language is that abortion known as Perl.

  22. no rumor, tis true. by wolfings · · Score: 1

    I am aggie and have connections in the CS department and this is no rumor. It is true and will be great for the CS dept and the univeristy in general. Although I dont know if it will be good for the Java advocates at TAMU! peacedog

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  23. Amen to that. 7-4 again I guess. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boomer Sooner.

  24. I'm impressed with the CS Dept/IT Dept at OU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell they are pulling a Hotmail type job with the Sooner Information Network SIN and after discussing with the lead mail manager how it was setup (my wife works there) I was impressed. Although IRIX is different. I guess if I had 8 SGI Computers lying around I'd find a use for them too.

  25. confirmed: Stroustrup at TAMU by Ristretto · · Score: 1

    The Texas A&M CS dept. homepage now includes, among other rotating photos, pictures of Bjarne and a pointer to the news that he has accepted the endowed faculty position.

  26. wanna study cs at A&M, get a Math degree by stackdump · · Score: 1

    According to my friend Vern at A&M, you seem to learn more Computer Science in the upper level math courses than in CS!

  27. don't be silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OU people can't actually read and write.

  28. Surprising, but true by jdennett · · Score: 2

    I've read it in e-mail from Bjarne, it's true.

    He'll still have ties to AT&T though, so maybe we won't have to update all of those links after all.

  29. OK Here is the link by isolation · · Score: 0

    http://www.cs.tamu.edu/news/items?id=56

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    Free Unix? Free Windows. http://www.reactos.com
  30. Re:What?! by warp365 · · Score: 1

    People may get moderated down when they give no reasons behind the complaints. C++ brought C and the programming world as a whole to a new level with OOP, graphics manipulations, STL, and several other features. I say good bye to the days of module and data structure combinations bringing only coupling and cohesion nightmares for debug programmers to toil through all day and possibly all night. The only time C++ is messy is when the programmer is messy. Bringing the man amongst men to our universities is a great move...I never thought I'd say this, but I wish I was back in school. Students are going to come out KNOWING C++, not just knowing about C++. I'd venture to say that those students' programs won't be messy.

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    "People will then realize that anxiety and distress in life will lead to the lasting comfort in death."-Confucius
  31. The University speaks by SiliconSlick · · Score: 1

    http://www.tamu.edu/univrel/aggiedaily/news/storie s/02/072302-3.html

    (took them long enough)

  32. Re:What?! by butane2 · · Score: 1

    Glad to see python,ruby,java not on your bad list. I dont know Perl as an 'abortion' per se. Hopefully you meant something else.

  33. IT Fall by Kaleem_Baig_Born_Dev · · Score: 1

    Well with the way things are going in the slumping economy and the Fall of IT I am not surprised that many people are going back to schools....well my Q is whats the point of going back to school and learn C++....what are you going to do with it...there are trillions of people who already know...(I know the population on earth is > 6billion)...but neways...C++ is great....