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Metropolis Reconstructed

Matt W writes "The New York Times (free as in beer reg, blah blah) has an article about a recent reconstruction of Fritz Lang's Metropolis. After being butchered by studios, Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega have restored most of the scenes and score. Film Forum on Houston St. in NY City will be showing the film for two weeks." Collect all three! I don't think they're using Georgio Morodor for the soundtrack for this one.

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  1. Metropolis by Felt+Tip+Pen · · Score: 1

    The anime was the best! I loved the ragtime soundtrack. They didn't even credit Fritzy though :(

    1. Re:Metropolis by Artifex · · Score: 2

      The anime was the best! I loved the ragtime soundtrack. They didn't even credit Fritzy though :(


      That's because the anime was actually an adaptation of a Japanese comic book, and not a reincarnation of Fritz Lang's masterpiece. Here is a handy link, if you want to learn more about the anime, or get trailers, etc.

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    2. Re:Metropolis by Picass0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, the anime was based on a manga by Osamu Tezuka, and that manga was inspired by F.L.'s Metropolis. Even twice removed for it's original inspiration, it still would have been appropriate to credit Fritz at the end of the Anime.

    3. Re:Metropolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i got the dvd with jap audio if anyone wants a vcd copy of it

    4. Re:Metropolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no kidding...

      anime was good but not giving credit where it's due makes it trash!

    5. Re:Metropolis by Dahan · · Score: 2

      Tezuka was inspired by posters/reviews for Lang's Metropolis. He hadn't actually seen the film itself, so I don't think you can really say that he was inspired by it.

  2. Eh? by SpatchMonkey · · Score: 2

    Could someone explain to me what the hell this article is about? It's just words, man!

    1. Re:Eh? by rudiger · · Score: 1

      well, without actually reading the article, it would appear that 2 dudes are redoing metropolis, the 1919 dystopian film by fritz lang. this is to i guess make up for an appearently bad version redone in the 70s [my guess, since he mentioned giorgio].

      and it is being shown at Film Forum on Houston St. in NY City for two weeks.

    2. Re:Eh? by rudiger · · Score: 1

      ...and upon some research, the original was 1925-27, and the remake was 65 [hey, i was close :/]

      see http://us.imdb.com/Title?0017136

    3. Re:Eh? by SpatchMonkey · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your explanation. I got a bit confused, as the story wasn't praising Linux or bashing Microsoft. Not really news for nerds eh?

    4. Re:Eh? by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Metropolis is a silent German black-and-white film that is considered to be the first true Sci-fi film, done in the early 1920s. Some documentation and still photos are here. The part of Metropolis everybody remembers is that the bad guys make a robot to take the place of the heroine Maria and the scene where the robot is activated is FANTASTIC. A great special effect even by todays standards that blew away audiences in the 1920s.

    5. Re:Eh? by kleinux · · Score: 1

      But there no better movie for nerds.
      Maybe this version will come out on DVD? Now that would be very cool.

    6. Re:Eh? by x136 · · Score: 1

      According to NetFlix, It is out on DVD.

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    7. Re:Eh? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I own a copy of the version Netflix has. It is really bad - a very poor quality, highly abridged master was used.

      Wait for this restoration to come out on DVD. Even the Moroder version is better than the current DVD.

    8. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the warning. I probably would have jumped on buying the DVD otherwise. Been looking quite a while for Metropolis. I wonder if the DVD is going to be released with Macrovision. Since the film is out of copyright, there should be no legitimate reason to use Macrovision on the DVD. hmm...

    9. Re:Eh? by tcc · · Score: 2

      >ould someone explain to me what the hell this article is about? It's just words, man!

      It's about a Peasant needing additional lumber.

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    10. Re:Eh? by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      the original was 1927, the remake was 1985!

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    11. Re:Eh? by Big_Ass_Spork_II · · Score: 1
      Click here for a movie synopsis.

      In 1986 while living in German economy, far out of reach of AFN (Armed Forces Network), and thus English TV, we had to rent alot of movies. Metropolis stood out as an artful and imaginative work. I love the rock soundtrack version, but will have to seek out the reconstructed version as well.

      Sincerly,
      The Reformed BAS

    12. Re:Eh? by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

      Very much news for nerds. Metropolis is generally considered the first Sci-Fi film among other merits.

  3. NY Times Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is $lashdot a whorely 0wn3d subsidiray of the NY Times?

    I think they must be getting kickbacks from registration fees.

  4. Metropolis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a polis I'd like you to suck. Bitch!

  5. Here she comes... by mumkin · · Score: 1
    I'm kind of embarrassed to say it, but I actually liked the rocked-up, colorized 80's release. Of course, I haven't seen it for at least a decade, so perhaps I'd feel differently about it now. It was my introduction to Metropolis, however, and I thought it was pretty damn cool.

    I'm very excited to hear about the "restored" release (hope it comes to my metro soon), though it sounds like there are a number of rolls still missing... what's 1500 new feet of film translate to, minute-wise, anyway? 10 minutes?

    1. Re:Here she comes... by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 2

      I'm with you, I thought the 80s rock version was pretty good. I particularly remember one scene that I think was an Adam Ant song set to the workers going down in the tunnels that I thought was particularly appropriate and well done.

  6. If you really enjoyed Fritz Lang's Metropolis... by Cutriss · · Score: 2

    Then don't watch Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis. It's quite a departure from the plot of the original, taking way too many pages from the Akira playbook. The character animation is across the board, but done so intentionally - Some of the characters look like they were drawn 30 years ago, while others are clearly modern and highly detailed.

    Still, the drastic departure from the original plot keeps me from really enjoying this release...

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  7. A no-reg link to the article by Verizon+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Available here

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  8. illegal "deep linked" article by NightHwk1 · · Score: 1

    get it here without registering with ny times

  9. Science Fiction Classic by lsoth · · Score: 1

    I remember watching this sci-fi classic back in College during my "Science Fiction" course :)

    If you are a sci-fi fan that can appreciate a movie for the message it communicates to the viewer, this movie is worth watching. As a warning the original has no sound and of course is in black & white. But true to the original purpose of science fiction it very much delivers an important message.

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  10. Why the remake is being made by kaustik · · Score: 1

    I remember watching this class at SFSU in a class called "Arts and Humanities in Computer Science." Well, remember as well as I can through the haze that was my first year of college. Our instructor mentioned that the reason the film seemed so choppy was that large portions of the film had actually been lost. I'm hoping this remake will include some of those "lost" scenes.

  11. If anybody's looking for the book... by dmoynihan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I scanned it in for my own site about a month ago.--scroll down a little, it's maybe the seventh book.

    Text is public domain/not renewed, but Gutenberg didn't like the version I used (and doesn't like not renewed in general), so they wouldn't add it.

    Interesting read--was written by Lang's girlfriend of the time, Thea von Harbou.

    1. Re:If anybody's looking for the book... by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 1

      Thanks for link too the book! A bit more info about the novel, it was written by Thea on a cruise ship just after Fritz had first seen the NYC skyline.

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    2. Re:If anybody's looking for the book... by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      Harbou was his wife, not girlfriend, they divorced some time in 1934 after she decided to stay in Germany and produce films for Aldolf Hitler... Lang fled to America

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  12. Ebert's Film Festival.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I saw the original Metropolis at Roger Ebert's Overlooked Film Festival last Spring here at the University of Illinois. The film was made much more memorable because they used a live orchestral score by the Alloy Orchestra (who apprently specialize in silent film music) - although it was three people (drum, woodwind, sythesizer) it really created an excellent mood and atmosphere.

    In addition - Ebert showed the anime Metropolis after the original, as a double feature. I really enjoyed the film, it was entertaining and very brilliantly animated and drawn, although I didn't find it particularly complex or intellectually deep. I was also very pleased that Ebert insisted on using subtitles rather than a english dub.

    Sincerely,
    Kevin Christie
    Neuroscience Program
    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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    1. Re:Ebert's Film Festival.... by robertchin · · Score: 2

      I was there too, hopefully when this new release is available the Alloy Orchestra will be allowed to license it. I greatly prefer the Alloy Orchestra's soundtrack to that of the original. I can't wait for this movie release to make it to DVD though, the rest of the DVD releases of Metropolis have horrible video quality!

  13. and all i could think was.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jeezus,

    Tickets: $9.75

    tickets for movies are almost $10 dollars in new york city nowadays.

  14. Tom Hanks Does Metropolis by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was an early Tom Hanks / Meg Ryan film called Joe vs. the Volcano which has the opening 15 minutes doing a GREAT takeoff on Metropolis - not camp or tongue in cheek, but a serious emulation with modern filmmaking. The rest of the movie was so-so to OK. Worth checking out.

  15. heavy holy man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Heavy Holy Man sits on the hill,
    Holding hard wooden ball.
    Hears mysteries of the universe unfolding but blocks it all out.
    He has one eye pointed toward the sky,
    As the other searches over the earth
    For dinner.
    Without ever once leaving his hill
    The Heavy Holy Man has sampled fast food from all over western Europe:
    Wimpyburgers from London,
    Wonderburgers from Dublin,
    And his favorite, Hitburgers from Paris,
    Which he ate whenever he had some free time.
    This particular day, however,
    The Heavy Holy Man travelled to Amsterdam,
    To Febo's,
    Where he put one and a half guilders in the slot,
    Opened the little door,
    And pulled out his Feboburger and Febonapkin,
    All without ever leaving the hill.
    Then the Heavy Holy Man smiled,
    His faith reaffirmed once again.
    "All the treasures of this, or any other world, are mine for the asking,"
    He thought to himself.

  16. Interview with Martin Koerber by bonch · · Score: 5, Informative

    As brought to you by FilmThreat, an interview with Martin Koerber about "Metropolis."

  17. Free as in what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the difference between "free as in beer" and "free as in speech" and maybe other "free-modes" that you people talk about?

    1. Re:Free as in what? by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1
      Roughly, free as in beer means it doesn't cost money; free as in speech means without restrictions on copying, quoting or altering to create derivative works.

      Others have explained it better than I have. Try this link: free software

    2. Re:Free as in what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No actually, you described it quite well all by yourself.

  18. gotta love metropolis... by DrStrangeLoop · · Score: 1

    first fembot in movie history!

    i had the opportunity to watch this masterpiece two months ago in a local alternative cinema... i really liked the way it was restored, they said they added altogether well over half an hour of previously thought lost material, which fritz lang had to cut out in order to gain more public acceptance in his days. scenes which were destroyed by time are summarized in caption screens, so you get to understand more of the whole picture.

    Mittler zwischen Hirn und Hand muss das Herz sein -just beautiful.

    -strangeloop

  19. Soundtrack? by molrak · · Score: 1

    How could they use a previous score written for a different cut of the film? This version contains 1300 feet of film that hasn't been in any version of the film since since the original German release. This cut, at 147 minutes, is only six minutes shorter than the original, but far shorter than director's 210 minute cut, which is apparently lost forever. More information can be found at the Digital Bits, and from the restorer's site, and Kino's site, the company releasing the DVD of this version.

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    1. Re:Soundtrack? by borg-music · · Score: 1

      There was a stunning soundtrack (though only approx. 60 minutes) to Metropolis composed by American electronic musician Jeff Mills released on his own axis records (http://www.axisrecords.com) via Berlin's famous tresor label in 2000. I was lucky enough to see the cut of the movie that Jeff used for his soundtrack at a screening he held during one of his DJ tours (he is possible even better known in Europe as a techno dj) and it was quite stunning despite its short length. I recall that there was excellent information on his site in regards his reasons for starting the project and also details on the various versions of the film available. All of Mills work is recommended listening for anyone interested in electronic music and should be seeked out as he is almost completely overlooked by USA/MTV though he is quite well known in Europe and parts of Asia (Japan/Australia).

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  20. Songs Re:Here she comes... by StefanJ · · Score: 2

    Adam Ant did "Cage of Freedom," as I recall. A great piece, especially the full version as heard in the film. It seems appropriate even today.

    The piece I most identify with the worker's march and descent into the underworld was Cycle V's "Blood From a Stone."

    The lyrics from which I could quote in its entirety here, but I don't want to get whacked by the Valenti Heat. #B^)

    But a line or two couldn't hurt, right?

    "Circles of the human chain/
    Turning for wheels of gain/
    A system with a power of its own/
    To draw blood from a stone"

    Stefan

    1. Re:Songs Re:Here she comes... by sessamoid · · Score: 2

      IIRC, Cage of Freedom was not done by Adam Ant, but by Jon Anderson, long-time lead singer for Yes.

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    2. Re:Songs Re:Here she comes... by mumkin · · Score: 1
      You are correct. The IMDB lists the soundtrack info for the Moroder cut. Adam Ant's track was "What's Going on?"

      Amazon sells the CD, and has some real audio samples for those who don't know what we're talking about :)

    3. Re:Songs Re:Here she comes... by khendron · · Score: 2

      I usually play "Blood from a Stone" when I am up at 3 a.m. on a Sunday morning, working towards an impossible deadline.

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  21. Try these links instead... by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 2

    Ah, now it's slashdotted. Try here or here or here or here for more info on this major landmark in film history...

  22. Yeah! Re:Here she comes... by StefanJ · · Score: 2

    I can understand why some folks my object to the 80's pop, but I liked both the music and the reconstructions. Until Moroder did the work, the only version of Metropolis widely available was short, badly hacked up, and accompanied by an embarassing Moog Synthesizer track.

    I would love to get the Moroder version on DVD. My videotape, dubbed from the laserdisk, disappeared years ago.

    I certainly look forward to the new release, however.

  23. Re:If you really enjoyed Fritz Lang's Metropolis.. by GreenHell · · Score: 1

    That's because it has little to do with Fritz Lang's film, and more to do with the 40's manga by Osamu Tezuka (the creator of Astro Boy, hence the character designs)

    You can enjoy both, you just have to realize that the two films aren't meant to be the same thing.

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  24. Stage version done in '94 by Etcetera · · Score: 2


    The first collegiate-level production of Metropolis done as a musical was done in 1994 at Southwestern College (in San Diego, CA). (My father performed in it, so I ended up at the theatre for many-a late night.) Anyway, I remember hearing all sorts of debate over the different versions of the movie out there. Which was the "truest" to the original story (none, really), which was the most accessible.

    Since we were the first in the US, the script and songs for the musical were re-written and umpteen number of times during production. It ended up as a sort of rock opera, but evoking many themes that were more present in the original than in later edits.

    Apparently, even with as much research as they've now been able to do, there are still significant portions of it missing ('it' being Lang's original version).

    Anyway, all technology workers deserve to see this story in one form or another. Definitely has as much to say now as it did 75 years ago.

  25. Borrowed Scenes by StefanJ · · Score: 2
    I'm amazed at the amount of Metropolis footage that turns up in commercials, videos, and TV shows.

    No, I take the back. It's mostly three scenes that are used, over and over: The creation of the robot Maria, the workers' descent into their dreary city, and the workers' revolt.

    There are a lot more great scenes, of course. There's a amazing, simple, evocative shot in which the hero runs around a corner.

    "Eh? So what?"

    Because it's a HUGE corner, a giant, windowless, monolithic heap. Seeing Federsohn cruise around it gives you a great sense of scale.

    1. Re:Borrowed Scenes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What commercials have clips from Metropolis?

    2. Re:Borrowed Scenes by OneFix · · Score: 1

      Mercedes has used some clips from it, I think Apple did too, I think there was also a clip from it on the Paramount 75th anniversary logo (one of the planes). In general, if you see an ad that switches over to a B&W image (obviously from an old movie) it's most likely Metropolis.

  26. free registration = lots of money! by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 1

    yeah, kickbacks from things that are free will make you tons of money.

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  27. Film Forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I know where I'm going tommorrow.

    www.filmforum.com/

  28. This is how we should revisit movies. by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Metropolis is a fantastic film and I am glad to hear that the english version is being revamped to be as close to Lang's original. With lost footage that Hollywood thought was to intellectual and made the movie to long for an american audience.

    Hollywood tends to make the former mistake quite often. The original Star Trek pilot "The Cage" was rejected for that reason leading to the second pilot "Where No Man Has gone Before". Man, I would love to go threw Hollywood's extensive stack of rejected scripts. I'm willing to gamble that there is more diamonds in that stack than in
    South Africa.

    Lang did have a vision about the perils of a industrial society and the film delivered his message with for the time brilliant cinemetography and visuals. When you watch the film you must remeber that this was six years before "King Kong". Audio wasn't very widespread and the color film of the time was crap. Yet the cityscape and factory sets where remarkable and very well done, and I think I don't need to mention the robot. Lang wasn't the only artist who put their effort into the film.

    The Americanized version of Metropolis proudly has a place in my DVD collection and so does the Anime. When the revision is released I would love to compare the three.

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  29. Wait! by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have to make sure George Lucas dosen't get anywhere near this revision. That guy can't even remake his own movies.

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  30. Don't watch Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Why, do you think it's inconceivable that someone could like both?

  31. Metropolis Review by PRickard · · Score: 3, Informative
    One of my partners in crime at the MSBC (who doesn't have a /. account) asked me to post this:

    Back in February I wrote a lengthy report on Metropolis for my college cinema class. The report was supposed to be about the themes of the film, but its history was so interesting I spent 2/3 of my time on that instead of the plot and events. An assignment for a 600 word paper turned into a 1700+ word essay that received an A+, not that I'm bragging or anything. I think it's an interesting read, whatever the grade was. The paper includes links to other sources and reviews more knowledgable than I. Check it out at www.msboycott.com/kmarks/metropolis.shtml .

    There you have it.

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    1. Re:Metropolis Review by randyest · · Score: 1

      someone with the domian msboycott.com doesn't have a /. account? I'm confused.

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    2. Re:Metropolis Review by PRickard · · Score: 1

      randyest typed: someone with the domian msboycott.com doesn't have a /. account? I'm confused.

      I have the domain, he works with me... I post here and he doesn't make a habit of it. And my account gets the extra high-karma bonus point, so the posting is more likely to be seen if I do it for him. That's not cheating, I hope...

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    3. Re:Metropolis Review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's interesting to note that Adolf Hitler loved this film. No doubt he was enthralled by the concept of the masters joining together with the workers, the very last scene of the film. At one point when he came to power, he asked Lang to make films for him. Lang said "Sure Adolf!" and promptly fled the country.

    4. Re:Metropolis Review by randyest · · Score: 1

      No, not at all. I guess I should have added a ':)' or something to my original post -- I was kidding. See, msboycott.com sounds like an anti- Micro$oft site (or at least domain name), and Slashdot it a hotbed (The hotbed?) of MS-bashing, so . . . well, it's not really all that funny when you break it down, is it? :)

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    5. Re:Metropolis Review by PRickard · · Score: 1

      randyest typed: No, not at all. I guess I should have added a ':)' or something to my original post -- I was kidding. See, msboycott.com sounds like an anti- Micro$oft site (or at least domain name), and Slashdot it a hotbed (The hotbed?) of MS-bashing, so . . . well, it's not really all that funny when you break it down, is it? :)

      I knew what you meant... And msboycott.com actually is an anti-Microsoft site (see my signature), one of the primary ones. The author of that piece does most of my site design so he uploaded it there in his own directory.

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  32. This sentence is unintentionally amusing. by Squid · · Score: 5, Funny

    After being butchered by studios, Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega have restored most of the scenes and score.

    What's the subject of that sentence?

    1. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing. by Saeculorum · · Score: 2

      "Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega"

    2. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Making fun of the slashdot editors' feeble grasp of the English language is kind of pointless, isn't it?

      For some reason, they don't care to use a proofreader and a spell checker. I have a feeling that they write like that purposefully, to draw attention from the fact that whatever they're writing about is incredibly stupid.

    3. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing. by daeley · · Score: 2

      I think the point was that it sounds like Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega are being butchered.

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    4. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing. by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      You mean they weren't? That was what was implied.

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  33. Too bad they didn't use the Club Foot ST by blamanj · · Score: 2

    The Club Foot Orchestra did a
    soundtrack that was just marvelous.

    It was also a great experience to see the film with the group playing live in the theatre.

  34. Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus, did anyone buy the DVD release? It was HORRIBLE.. my god. Shitty transfer, wrong aspect ratio, etc.. god..what a waste of $6. I guess "you get what you pay for" sometimes IS true. :/

    I'm anxious to see this baby in its full glory on the silver screen..it'll be the first time i've seen it proper (I viewed the Girogio Moroder version many moons ago..christ did that put a bad taste in my mouth)

  35. sloppy... by swein515 · · Score: 1

    I don't think they're using Georgio Morodor for the soundtrack for this one.

    If you had actually read the article you're posting about, you'd know they aren't.

    1. Re:sloppy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, it was Giorgio Moroder...

  36. Yo Cuz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It be hip-hopera fo' sheezy, mah neezy.

  37. restored most? by night_flyer · · Score: 2

    unless they found a BUNCH of reels of film, they can't say restored most. 7 of the 17 reels (3301 ft) of the film are missing, thanks to them shortening it for "American audiences".

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  38. Ditto! Left an impression when I was a kid. by Nijika · · Score: 2

    I saw that version of Metropolis even before I saw Bladerunner, and I swear it somehow turned me into the sci-fi geek I am now. Now the only copy of Metropolis that's available is a very poor DVD that I have. The DVD itself looks like there has been 0 attempt at a restore. I suspect they may have burned the DVD from a VHS tape. I'm -so- looking forward to any new DVDs that show up as a result of this.. and I'd even love to find the fruited-up 80's version (because it sorta rules in it's own way too).

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  39. Presumeably this will be released on VHS/DVD? by Etcetera · · Score: 2


    IIRC, Metropolis fell into the public domain or something (or at least, there are 50 million versions of it, editing aside -- sort of like His Girl Friday).

    Will they be releasing this spiffed up version at some point in the future?

  40. Wasn't there a version with a Queen soundtrack? by Uncle+Gropey · · Score: 1

    Well wasnt there?

    1. Re:Wasn't there a version with a Queen soundtrack? by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      No, Freddie Mercury was on one song (Love Kills) on the soundtrack.

      on a side note, I believe it was "Radio Ga Ga" by Queen that used parts of the film in their music video

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    2. Re:Wasn't there a version with a Queen soundtrack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They probably did their own soundtrack for any film that features men not wearing shirts or men with makeup on. Queen was a band of walking perfume shops.

  41. RT Links Reviews of Wrong Version of Metropolis by naloxone · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Rotten Tomatoes, one of the two great meta-review sites, doesn't seem to "get" that this release is very different from all previous cuts of the film, especially the recut, tinted, rock-n-roll-soundtracked 1984 Moroder cut. Many of the reviews refer to the "out of place rock-n-roll soundtrack" and "terrible image quality". This is a real problem, because people will be choosing whether or not to see the film based on extremely inaccurate data.

    I've emailed them about the problem (and offered to provide them with a list mapping reviews to releases), but they seem to be ignoring me. If we can get enough people to let them know that yes it is worth taking the time to be accurate about this, this release might actually get the respect and attendance it deserves. Please mail them and let them and (as politely as possible) inform them that this is important.
    Thank you.

    1. Re:RT Links Reviews of Wrong Version of Metropolis by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      while many do not like the Moroder version, the quality of the restoration was very good, and was closer to the story than most of the butchered copies out there right now.

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    2. Re:RT Links Reviews of Wrong Version of Metropolis by naloxone · · Score: 1

      Really it's just a matter of expectation-- if the incorrect reviews of the '84 release prompt viewers to go see the film specifically to see the tinting and modernized soundtrack, they'll be sorely (and unfairly) disappointed. It's like taking a swig from a glass of what you assume is beer but turns out to be iced-tea. It may be very fine iced-tea, but you're going to do a spit-take because it wasn't what you were expecting.

      You raise valid points, though. Cuts prior to Moroder tended to focus very heavily on the political subplot, which was fairly minor in the original (Berlin) screening. That bias mostly originated in the studio re-cut when it was first brought over to the U.S. Really, there were three major plot-lines and this release will be the first modern cut to resurrect the majority of all three.

      I would refer to the image quality of the Moroder release as "variable". Some of the scenes were restored quite nicely, others substantially less so. The incorrect projection speed of the "Maria Dancing" scene was really irritating (and inappropriately humorous).

      I will, however, admit to being quite taken with some of the tinting and image effects in the 1984 release. It was the first cut I ever saw of the film and many of the scenes stick in my memory as hauntingly beautiful.

  42. TO bring this to the rest of Slashdot.... by mekkab · · Score: 2

    "Only by pushing himself to the very edge of coherence was Lang able to transcend the schematic moralizing that keeps so much science fiction tethered, ultimately, to the mundane."

    Personally, I push my perl code to the very edge of coherence in order to "transcend the schematic moralizing"... but YMMV.

    P.S.- what the heck does that mean!

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    1. Re:TO bring this to the rest of Slashdot.... by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      It means that Lang made a movie that was complex compared to silly morality plays... you know, plays/films meant to "teach a lesson". Not that Lang doesn't have any themes -- far from it. He just refuses to tell a trite, formulaic story to get his point[s] across.

      Speaking of Perl, it's sort of like Larry Wall's postmodern Christianity thing. He doesn't beat Perl coders over the head with Bibles or nothing, but certainly elements of his religion visibly influence his work.

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    2. Re:TO bring this to the rest of Slashdot.... by Derleth · · Score: 1

      Speaking of Perl, it's sort of like Larry Wall's postmodern Christianity thing. He doesn't beat Perl coders over the head with Bibles or nothing, but certainly elements of his religion visibly influence his work.

      I'm a semi-serious Perl freak and I have no idea what you're talking about. The Church of TMTOWTDI? Acolytes of DWIM? I must be reading the Camel the wrong way, 'cause I haven't found any reference to religion in it (other than the fact that it is a Bible). OTOH, he does call the little informational speils about Perl6 'Apocalypses', but he also releases State of the Onion reports.

      So, after having gone this long without knowing if Larry was even religious at all, I'm being told that he's been sneaking his faith into his work by a Slashdotter. So, do you have any evidence? I'm really curious.

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    3. Re:TO bring this to the rest of Slashdot.... by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      there's no "sneaking" to it. Perl is not an arm of Christianity. I guess you've never read any of Larry's speeches? read the old Camel book (circa 1992)? He uses examples straight from biblical text. Also, the idea of Larry's Apocalypses and Damien's subsequent Exegeses is gleaned straight from his study of religious texts. Here's a direct quote:

      The funny thing is, [cultural relativism's] almost right. It's very close to what I do, in fact, believe. I'd go so far as to call myself a strong postmodernist. Strong postmodernism says that all truth is created. But this really isn't a problem for anyone who believes in a Creator. All truths are created relative, but some are more relative than others. A universal truth only has to be true about our particular universe, so to speak. It doesn't much matter whether the universe itself is true or false, just as long as it makes a good story. And I think our universe does make a good story. I happen to like the Author.
      --Larry Wall: Perl, the first postmodern computer language, LinuxWorld Spring 1999
      http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html
      Now, whether you accept that Jesus Christ is the greatest of all cosmic artists, or merely a very good B.S. artist, you have to admit that it really puts an interesting spin on theology to view God as an artist. Permit me to state the obvious and point out that I view my relationship to the Perl community the same way. This is why I sometimes behave as your revered prophet and cult leader. It's also why I explicitly reject that role periodically. As the artist in charge of Perl Culture, I reserve the right to choose where to exercise control, and where not to. Sometimes I preach love and harmony, and other times I preach nature red in tooth and claw.
      --Larry Wall, 1st State of the Onion, 1997 Perl Conference
      http://www.wall.org/~larry/keynote/keynote.html

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  43. Re:If you really enjoyed Fritz Lang's Metropolis.. by night_flyer · · Score: 2

    funny, Ive liked all versions I have run across, Moroder's, the original, the anime based on the magna which is based on the original movie. I have read the book many times, and I have the book-on-tape version as well...

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  44. Silent Movies by guttentag · · Score: 3, Funny
    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to say something profound with a silent movie?

    Try turning the sound off before watching some more recent movies and see if you can discern their underlying messages. Here's what I came up with:

    • Training Day: Cops do drugs and beat up homeless/crippled people.
    • 2001: Always bring your helmet when leaving the space ship.
    • Tron: Jeff Bridges should not smoke crack before operating a computer.
    • Full Metal Jacket: Soldiers kill people.
    • Dr. Strangelove: Peace is the military's profession.
    • AI: What the hell was that all about?
    It's not so easy, is it?
    1. Re:Silent Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree about 2001. There is very little dialog in the movie as it is. The last act (45 minutes or so, IRC) has no dialog.

    2. Re:Silent Movies by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      Right... there's something like 200 lines of dialogue in the whole film. It's what Kubrick was best at, post-Dr.Strangelove: imagery.

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    3. Re:Silent Movies by dvdeug · · Score: 2

      Do you have any idea how difficult it is to say something profound with a silent movie?
      Try turning the sound off before watching some more recent movies and see if you can discern their underlying messages.


      That's like turning off the picture to try and get an idea of what a story told through radio is like. Your medium defines the fundamental nature of how you tell the story.

    4. Re:Silent Movies by Vann_v2 · · Score: 1

      In 2001 the first word is about twenty-five minutes into the film ("Here you are, sir. Main Level D."), and, in total, there is less than fourty minutes of dialogue. Most of the dialogue is trivial, too. Perhaps you should re-watch some of those, closer this time.

    5. Re:Silent Movies by foobar104 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, 2001 is almost a silent film as it is. There are basically three expository passages of dialogue in the film (the briefing by Dr. Floyd, the televised BBC interview, and the final recorded message from Dr. Floyd to the crew), and the rest could be eliminated completely without too much editing.

      Maybe in my spare time I'll do an artsy parody of 2001, re-editing the DVD as a silent film with just a musical soundtrack and some title cards for essential dialogue. Sounds like a fun little project.

      You heard it here first.

    6. Re:Silent Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point, but...

      This is not very surprising. These "modern" movies are designed to be
      viewed with sound. That is, all of the directors made their movies on
      the assumption that sound is an integral part of the movie.

      Now, if you told said directors that they have to make their movie w/o sound
      (and assuming they don't walk off thinking you're gone loony), they could
      probably do things to make the movie more understandable w/o sound.

      As you implied, it wouldn't be as easy, but it can be done.

      Although I suspect it might be really hard/impossible to do this for
      any exposition-intensive movie. I've haven't seen it, but would AI fall
      under this category?

      -cmh

    7. Re:Silent Movies by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between a silent film and simply cutting out all the dialogue you know...

      Although, honestly some movies would be better off with the mute button on...

    8. Re:Silent Movies by tgrigsby · · Score: 1

      You watched all six of those movies with no sound? Dude, you need a hobby...

      I agree, though, that Metropolis was way ahead of the genre. Fantastic stuff.

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  45. Re:gotta love metropolis... (Translation) by Derleth · · Score: 1

    Mittler zwischen Hirn und Hand muss das Herz sein.

    Intermediary between brain and hand must be the heart.

    From Dictionary.com's translation service.

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  46. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're going to pick on someone's grammar, at least make sure there is something to pick on. That sentence is perfectly correct (someone else already pointed out what the subject is).

  47. Is this it? by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Is this the Superman vs. Batman movie that has been rumored? Superman lives in Metropolis, right?

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  48. Lang's vision of the future ... by DigitalDreg · · Score: 1

    was dominated by giant, dehumanizing machines. Machines driven by steam, gears, pistons, etc.

    The thing that fascinates me about the film is not that he tried to protray a future dominated by machines, but that the machines that came to pass are so vastly different. We don't labor in front of huge steam engines; our machines are based on information.

    And hence the danger of predicting the future based on past history. :-)

    1. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by sunspot42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *Somebody* has to be working with heavy machines in order to produce the manufactured goods you use and enjoy. In Lang's vision of the future, employees in a subterranean world beneath the city fulfilled that function. In reality, those of us in the West have just exported our heavy, exploitive, polluting drudgery to the Third World, where despots are more than willing to whip our servants into submission for us. I'd say Lang's vision of the future was fundamentally correct - he just got a few irrelevant details wrong.

    2. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by Derleth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *Somebody* has to be working with heavy machines in order to produce the manufactured goods you use and enjoy. In Lang's vision of the future, employees in a subterranean world beneath the city fulfilled that function. In reality, those of us in the West have just exported our heavy, exploitive, polluting drudgery to the Third World, where despots are more than willing to whip our servants into submission for us. I'd say Lang's vision of the future was fundamentally correct - he just got a few irrelevant details wrong.

      And except for the fact that you've completely ignored the point of the post you're responding to, you're fundamentally correct.

      Lang's vision of the future is fundamentally Industrial, which means it is based on things: Physical objects, such as oil and gold and wood and iron, are the basic items of commodity. They are the things corporations live and die on. They are the things that the whole infrastructure of nations is built to transport. The Interstate Highway System is the ultimate Industrial infrastructure, because it allows people to move things in a reliable way from any point in the country to another cheaply. That is what Lang saw for the future: More of the same, but bigger.

      Now we have made a transition from Stuff to Information. We live in the Information Age, and we now have to move information around efficiently. We have to find or produce information. Corporations live or die on their ability to react to information. J. P. Morgan's steel works could ignore the goings-on of Nihon or Corea or French Indochina because none of those regions were close enough to affect it. These days, dead is the corporation that thinks physical distance has the slightest to do with impact, or that it is safe to ignore whole regions of the globe. The Internet is the new infrastructure, because it allows us to move information around reliably and cheaply.

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    3. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by sunspot42 · · Score: 1

      No, I didn't ignore the "point" of his post - his "point" just demonstrates his (and apparently your) complete lack of understanding regarding what Metropolis is all about.

      He said, "We don't labor in front of huge steam engines; our machines are based on information." That's a load of hooey. The upper classes in Metropolis didn't labor in front of huge steam engines, either - they had their subterranean worker classes to do that, just as we here in the West have the Third World to do our steamy industrial dirty work. And the upper classes in Metropolis were already portrayed as Information Age workers, adding up the receipts of the labor of others, which is all we ultimately use our vaunted "Information Age" technology for - to maximize industrial efficiency. And if you think the world isn't still fundamentally industrial, you're living in a corporate propaganda dot com bubbleland, the same kind of rarified, disconnected atmosphere inhabited by the elites in Metropolis. In fact, you're the living proof of just how visionary Fritz Lang really was.

      Without the industry of around two billion people toiling under generally pretty shitty, steamy, industrial-age conditions all across the globe (particularly in the Third World), this cozy little anal retentive so-called Information Economy we have here in the West would curl up and die in about a week. You'd starve shortly thereafter.

      As usual, the fleas end up believing the dog exists solely for their benefit.

    4. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by Derleth · · Score: 1

      So all of a sudden mass-production is back to the level of the late Industrial age with absolutely no automation at all. How nice.

      If you could remove the bile ducts from your mouth, you might be able to produce a listenable arugment. If you could remove the blinders from your eyes, you might be able to see mine. Calling me a bubblehead while ignoring the profound changes that have occurred in this century is simply lazy. Ignoring the fact that most 'industrial' jobs bear little resemblence to what was being done in the 19th and early 20th centuries because most of the tedium has been mechanized is simple ignorance, and unexcusable in an age where all of the information you need to craft a good argument is literally at your fingertips.

      Fifty years ago, could you have looked up the GNP of Ghana while viewing a live feed of the inside of someone's dorm room? Could you have found five million pages that reference a specific disease in less than a second? Could you possibly have gotten so much information to need anything as complex as google to even hope to sort through it all? No. Simply impossible, all of those things. Such concepts didn't exist in the 1950s, because the 1950s was on the tail end of the Industrial Age. In the 1950s, information was something you hunted for, not filtered through. Finding information meant looking among all of the general-purpose works, unless the information was so important as to merit its own treatment. Getting a deluge of information for relatively narrow topics was not possible.

      How times have changed. A google search for 'Perl6', a specific revision of a specific language, gets me 'about 128,000' returns. 128,000 pages is more than ten big dictionaries, 128,000 books is an exceptionally well-stocked library. I now have to filter out all the noise and find the stuff I want. (A search for 'earthquake' gets me 'about '1,690,000', by the way, a number that would give a little over a page to every six people on earth.) Why? Why can I get so much information so quickly? Why could I not have gotten it fifty years ago?

      Because in this age, information counts. 'Things,' physical artifacts, have gotten so cheap that they don't drive economies anymore. They have gotten this cheap because production methods have changed radically, removing the need for people to stand in front of machines of steam and steel just to produce the most basic items of commerce. Lang's factories are no longer economically viable because they lack automation and computerization and rely on human drudges. Slavery is not viable for the same reasons.

      So telling me I'm living in a dream world while you ignore the facts of life is a rather odd admixture of irritation and amusement to me.

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    5. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you've odviously never worked a day in a factory. I can assure you that there is a lot of monitoring machines and a lot of drugery. Things have changed very little in the last 50 years.

      Things are the basis of our economy information cannot be. What's TIME printed on? What do you eat? What are you viewing slashdot with? How do you think these things get made?

    6. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by nagora · · Score: 2
      So all of a sudden mass-production is back to the level of the late Industrial age with absolutely no automation at all. How nice.

      Well, I don't think the average Nike or DeBeers worker would see any great changes in working conditions over the last 300 years and they ain't insignificent companies.

      I think the poster had a point, for the mass of humans the idea that you can look up Perl6 on google and find information and that you have any use for that information is almost like something from a myth. There is a parallel here between you (and me) and the upper classes in Metropolis.

      Slavery still exists and is perhaps more common than you'd like to think.

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    7. Re:Lang's vision of the future ... by sunspot42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So all of a sudden mass-production is back to the level of the late Industrial age with absolutely no automation at all. How nice.

      Your words, not mine. And your bile. There was automation in Metropolis - what do you think the workers were doing? That's right - running machines in factories.

      Ignoring the fact that most 'industrial' jobs bear little resemblence to what was being done in the 19th and early 20th centuries because most of the tedium has been mechanized is simple ignorance.

      Ha! You've obviously never worked a day in a factory in your life, let alone a factory in the Third World. Kathy Lee Gifford and Nike have to lock 'em in their sweatshops for a reason. And those sweatshops are a paradise compared to places like mines & smelters. Just because horrible working conditions have been (pretty much) eliminated from your immediate vision (as they had been for the elites in Metropolis) doesn't mean they don't exist elsewhere in the world. Of course we've been able to eliminate most of that from our little corner of the world - we're now largely the management class overseeing the labors of around two BILLION people. It takes a hundred million people to manage that pool of labor, and another hundred million to support those managers. But nothing that we do is "magic", and it's certainly nothing some of the workers couldn't do for themselves. Lang's film serves as a stark warning of what's going to happen someday when, en masse, they figure that last bit out.

      'Things,' physical artifacts, have gotten so cheap that they don't drive economies anymore. They have gotten this cheap because production methods have changed radically, removing the need for people to stand in front of machines of steam and steel just to produce the most basic items of commerce.

      Ha!!! You have two billion people working at slave wages to produce goods for you, troops stationed all over the world to keep the cost of energy down, and then crow about how cheap things have gotten thanks to the "Information Age"? Please! Things have gotten cheap because the pool of labor is ten times what it was in 1927, and the relative cost of energy has plunged. Things have gotten cheap because 100 years of industrial might have produced a military machine nobody can resist. Sure, "Information Age" technologies have helped to facilitate these changes - you couldn't manage two billion people spread all over the globe or fight a modern war without them - but please. A stealth fighter may be a marvel of modern information technology, but without the materials to build it and the fuel to run it, it's just a CAD drawing. And nobody's going to be intimidated - let alone killed - by something out of a videogame.

      You don't eat ideas. You don't drive around town in information. We live in a material world, and all the information you shuffle about on the Internet won't ever change that fact.

      And as for automation, it only makes sense to build hugely expensive and complicated robots to perform industrial tasks when the cost of labor is extremely high, as it became in the West and Japan during the 1970's, and the government doesn't allow you to move those jobs to Third World nations (as is the case with the heavily-regulated automobile industry). The per-capita GDP of China in 1990 was $798 US dollars. For America, it was around $32,000 dollars. So long as labor remains cheap in the Third World, they aren't going to be automating those jobs.

  49. Compare all three versions? by redbeard_ak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is a review that does that.
    What is interesting to me about 'Metropolis' (besides a cool flick) is the history of the term 'robot'. The Russian word for 'worker' is 'robotnik.' Kinda puts a different slant on our (if you're lucky) 40 hour work week.

    Back in Austin, I think I saw the silent version of Metropolis with a Kraftwerk soundtrack. I enjoyed it, but was kinda... medicated.
    Here's what MonsterZine has to say:
    "In 1920 Czech writer Karel Capek's play R.U.R.: Rossum's Universal Robots coined the term "robot" (from the Czech robotnik, worker) for mechanical man. In the play emotionless artificial persons wipe out humanity, only to develop emotions of their own. In Fritz Lang's Metropolis (1927), a grandly mad scientist (Rudolph Klein-Rogge) creates an evil robot, then, through a spectacular display of electrical equipment, transforms the robot into the duplicate of a virtuous labor leader (Brigitte Helm)."

    And here is what Kraftwerk has to say about it:
    The Robots
    We're charging our battery
    And now we're full of energy
    We are the robots

    We're functioning automatik
    And we are dancing mechanik
    We are the robots

    Ja tvoi sluga (=I'm your slave)
    Ja tvoi Rabotnik robotnik (=I'm your worker)

    We are programmed just to do
    anything you want us to
    we are the robots

    We're functioning automatic
    and we are dancing mechanic
    we are the robots

    Ja tvoi sluga (=I'm your slave)
    Ja tvoi Rabotnik robotnik (=I'm your worker)

    We are the robots


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    1. Re:Compare all three versions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      robotnik? You make that word up.

  50. the history of robot by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 1

    I am pretty sure it comes from "rob" a word that in Russian and most other slavic languages means slave. I am not sure who came up with it though. Probably Azimov.

    1. Re:the history of robot by MrYotsuya · · Score: 1

      The origin of the word "robot" is commonly assumed to be from the title of a play from the early 20th century called "Rossum's Universal Robots". It is true that the word robot is derived from slave or labourer.

    2. Re:the history of robot by sessamoid · · Score: 2

      Asimov did not coin the term "robot." He did however coin the term "robotics" to describe the study and creation of robots. Asimov goes into the etymology of the word "robot" somewhere in one of his bazillion books' forwards, I think.

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  51. I saw this today in NYC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazingly, I bought a ticket for the 5:35 show at 5:32 with no problems. When I left, there were people lined up on the standby line for the 8:00 show though.

    I'm not a film geek, so I can't say anything about how the restoration compares to other versions (which I haven't seen, either). There are still literal plot holes where footage has been lost. The restoration patches over several of them in a watchable way.

    The science fiction side of this is weak. It's more social commentary than science fiction. Don't expect too much from the fembot who's on all the movie posters. And remember, after all, this movie was written before Asimov's Laws of Robotics!

    The set pieces are gorgeous. This movie blew out the budget like "Titanic" did, and it shows.

    The plot is ponderous and moralizing for the first third, slow and detour-y for the second third, but then picks up some steam in the last act.

    The characters are uneven. Federson, the protoganist, doesn't really have a clue what he's doing most of the time, which makes him hard to watch.

    In my mind, I tagged Federson as "Brad", Maria as "Janet", the fembot as "Rocky", the old bitter doctor as "Dr. Scott", and so on. I didn't have the nerve to yell out "Floor Show!" at the approriate time, though.

    Here is the big payoff: this is the archetype movie for a lot of other television and movie scenes, from Blade Runner to Apple's famous "1984" commercial. This makes it worthwhile to shell out $9.75 for a black-and-white subtitled silent movie on a screen that's probably smaller than some home theaters of some of the Slashdot readers.

  52. sorry by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 2

    didnt read your whole message. i guessi was wrong.

  53. A bit OT - Re:This sentence ... amusing by kasparov · · Score: 1
    That sentence is perfectly correct

    I doubt it--the event it implies is not physically possible.

    (someone else already pointed out what the subject is).

    Yes, they did. They were pointing out that the subject was "Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega." Which implies that they were butchered by the studios (not the movie), then they "restored most of the scenes and score." This is why it is funny. Laugh.

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  54. Profound, but without words by Animats · · Score: 2
    See Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will. It's considered the greatest propaganda film of all time. Yet the first twenty minutes of the film has no dialogue at all. And it's just a documentary of a big Nazi party rally, which would normally lead to a very boring film. But through excellent camerawork, composition, and cutting, it became a powerful symbol of Naziism.

    Leni Riefenstahl is still alive and active at age 99. She knew Fritz Lang when he was making Metropolis; they were working at the same studio.

  55. Re:This sentence is unintentionally amusing by foobar104 · · Score: 2

    No, the sentence is not correct. Just in case anybody else out there needs an explanation, the sentence is incorrect because it's an example of a misplaced modifier.

    Properly constructed sentences place modifying clauses or phrases adjacent to the word that they modify. In this case, the sentence is incorrect because ``being butchered by studios'' is not descriptive of ``Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega.'' If you parse the sentence correctly, it's funny.

    After being butchered by studios, Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega have restored most of the scenes and score.

    The strict meaning of that sentence is that Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega were butchered by studios, and that they subsequently restored the film. This error is doubly egregious because the noun that the adverbial phrase modifies-- ``the film''-- isn't even in the sentence. It's just implied by the elliptic construction, ``restored most of the scenes and score (to the film).''

    To be grammatically correct, the sentence could have been written this way. It's not great, but at least it's strictly correct.

    After the film was butchered by studios, Martin Koerber and Alpha-Omega restored most of the scenes and score.

    The right thing to do in this case, of course, is to rephrase the idea so it can be expressed less awkwardly.

    ``To read makes our speaking English good.''

  56. Re:If you really enjoyed Fritz Lang's Metropolis.. by John_Booty · · Score: 2

    I'm a huge anime fan, so I'm probably more forgiving on anime than most movie-goers... and let me tell you, I thought the anime Metropolis was completely awful.

    None of the characters were developed in a way that made me feel any empathy, and most of the plot was murky and full of babble. Animation was good but not good enough to make up for the weak story and characters.

    Just a quick FYI, Osamu Tezuka based his Metropolis manga off of Fritz Lang's movie in the circa 1950's. He based it VERY loosely, since he'd never actually seen the movie, so it was more of an inspiration thing, rather than an adaptation.

    I don't know how closely this modern animated version sticks to the manga- I'm guessing it's a fairly loose or at least highly compressed adaptation of the manga, since that's what happens when a multivolume printed work is crammed into a 2-hour movie. :P

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  57. Are they going to touch his . . .? by Wax_and_Wane · · Score: 1

    I read somewhere that they are also searching for and reassembling Lang's original stuffed monkey.

  58. Re:gotta love metropolis... (Translation) by simifilm · · Score: 1

    And as Lang said himself later this is an utterly message.

  59. Re:gotta love metropolis... (Translation) by simifilm · · Score: 1

    Ooops. This was meant to be "utterly stupid message"...

  60. Lucas quotes Metropolis by cyberon22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wake up, pancho.... Metropolis is one of the films Lucas repeatedly alludes to in his Star Wars trilogy, and if haven't picked up on it you should take a course or two in film analysis and quit bashing Lucas as a filmmaker.

    Besides the direct visual allusions he gives us to Metropolis in AOTC, here are some of the more striking commonalities between the two films:

    (1) An emphasis on clones. The heroine, Maria (who advocates peace) is replaced by a robotic Maria who looks just like her and who advocates war in an evil attempt to cause the workers to destroy themselves so as to enrich the corporate ruler of the city. Likewise the prequels show us individuals who abandon pacifism to advocate war.

    (2) Overarching theme that violence/war is self-destructive. Identical to theme in AOTC, where aggressors ALWAYS lose.

    (3) The hero of Metropolis is a mediator between "the brain" and "the muscle" of the city -- not a direct parallel to AOTC, but think about balance in the Force, and wisdom versus emotional action. Close enough....

    (4) The hero of Metropolis is a SON! In other words, a father-son relationship is at the heart of the movie, and the son is a saviour figure. Just like Star Wars.

    (5) The wicked inventor of the robotic Maria has a mechanical hand.

    Translation: if you can't pick up on the more obvious of visual allusions Lucas provides in ttack of the Clones, it really isn't your duty to bash the film, or its directory for his lack of sophistication as a filmmaker....

  61. you should have called your paper "Palladium" by oliphaunt · · Score: 2

    from your review:

    We can summarize [the moral of the original film by saying] that men are, by nature, greedy and selfish. Those who have the capacity to oppress others for their own gain will always do so, and the advancement of technology makes that easier. Rebellious masses can be placated, fooled, or eliminated by technologies that appear to be helpful at first but slowly remove more freedom and individuality as they become more advanced.

    Or if that doesn't work, you can start a war. That usually keeps those commie rebels who keep griping about human rights confused and occupied long enough to destroy them.

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  62. Re:Metropolis Anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well the anime was interesting, but definately not one of my favorites.

    It has some very interesting artwork, some of the heaviest use of CG anime in a I've seen in a traditional-style anime film. I think the artwork is a very good rendition of 20's-style fascination with mechanical things. Steel high-rises, huge gears, lots of neon signs.

    What's disappointing is that there is a lot of character development that never went anywhere. After introducing the characters and the unusual society they live in, it quickly devolves into a pointless series of scenes of wanton destruction. The ending just leaves you saying "huh?" and wondering what the point was. It's as if the writer got halfway through the story and didn't know how to finish it.

  63. Metrapolis - II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dream Theater album 'Metrapolis -II, Scenes from the memory' rocks. The best concept album after "The Wall" and " Operation Mindcrime". Wait a minute are we talking about the same thing. Never mind, I think music still is the best. Check it out to find what you are missing.

  64. beer by bay43270 · · Score: 2

    (free as in beer reg, blah blah)

    CNN, MSNBC, ZDNET, CNET are all "free as in beer". What news site that you know of, gives away the rights to its stories?
  65. Old news by Rupert · · Score: 2

    This guy reconstructed a metropolis over a month ago!

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  66. If you like Fritz Lang check out... by crudeboy · · Score: 1

    If you're interested in good movies chech out Fritz Langs movies about Dr. Mabuse, Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler (1922) and in particular Dr. Mabuses Testament (1933).

  67. Re:If you really enjoyed Fritz Lang's Metropolis.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I consider myself quite an anime fan. Personally, I really enjoyed Tezuka's Metropolis. It was merely inspired by, not based off the original.
    The designs of tha characters are that way because it was based off of Tezuka's manga, he also designed characters for many other anime and manga, Astroboy (Tetsuan Atom) being the most well known.

  68. Enslavement to Machine vs Info System - different? by Tungbo · · Score: 1

    So instead of moving a clock arms to follow lights, we have to answer to the beeping cell-phones and be monitored by cameras in every corners. Instead of trudging en masse to assembly lines, we are nestled in cubicles 'writing production reports'.

    Instead of living in underground warrens, we are living in dense overground apartments.

    So while the specific technologies are different, are we not still enslaved by our technologies?

    Has not the gap between rich and poor grew at unprecedent rate in the past decades?

    Will DubbarU Bush's slapping the wrists of a few CEOs really bridge the gap between the 'head' and the 'hand' ?

    It's still a very relevant movie in my books.

  69. Also showing in Michigan by AlpineR · · Score: 2
    For those in the Midwest, the restored Metropolis is also showing in Ann Arbor, Michigan (are you listening CmdrTaco?) at the Michigan Theater. From their classic film series schedule:

    Sound of Silents: METROPOLIS Digitally Restored Print!
    September 21 With live organ accompaniment
    September 22 With restored 60-piece orchestral soundtrack

    It's a beautifully restored theater, built in the Roaring 20's, with gold trim, chandeliers, a balcony, and a pre-show organist.

    AlpineR