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John Gilmore Sues Ashcroft et al. for Freedom to Travel

ChTom writes "John Gilmore initiated a federal suit today in CA Northern District against Ashcroft, et al, challenging the air travel ID requirement: http://cryptome.org/freetotravel.htm (Mr. Gilmore is a businessman, civil libertarian, and philanthropist. He was the fifth employee of Sun Microsystems, an early author of open source software, and co-creator of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Cypherpunks, the DES Cracker, and the Internet's "alt" newsgroups. He serves as a director on several for-profit and nonprofit boards. )"

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  1. No constitutional right to fly by TheCanuck · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Jump in a car like the rest of us! Just another victim of modern American society. What a sham! This is such a gross waste of Judicial time. Doesn't this moron have anything better to do with his pre-crash millions.

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    He shoots! He Scores!!!!!
  2. IPsec FreeS/WAN by Shamanin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This is the FreeS/WAN guy. I just mentioned some of the problems with getting a Linux distribution with IPsec in a thread from yesterday:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=36220&cid=39 04 164

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    come on fhqwhgads
  3. Extreme? by Peapod · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    It seems like this guy likes his extremes. I don't know the guy and haven't heard about him until this day, but to me he seems like he is just testing a system, and really does not care about the so called "injustices" but more about the publicitiy and looking like an innocent public servant. I don't understand why requireing ID to travel on an airplane is a bad thing. That is the way I have always flown, pre or post Sept 11. I understand that having something check out your fitness to travel on an airplane might seem bad, but in a world where even American citizens are found fighting basically against America (albiet not very many) I don't have a problem. If this guy was trying to board my airplane without proper ID, I would not want him on my flight either. I just don't understand people who try to have perfectly reasonable random checks halted. Federal cops interrogate you? OK, so then when do the black helocopters come and steal your trash?

    Its your right to travel, its a privalege to travel using an airplane, just like driving.

    -Peapod

  4. I know the Secret Directive! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Flamebait
    If They're Brown, Pat Them Down!

    It's the same one used for years by many police departments.

  5. Im gonna murder Richard Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This, i repeat is NOT a JOKE! Im gonna murder that Antelope humping, Complaining Wanker who makes us pay for FREE software, Richard Trollman.

    This is NOT A JOKE! Moderate at your Peril!

  6. Re:Counterproductive and silly by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "Well, next thing you know, you'll want to let blacks ride in the front of the bus, like that Martin King fella."

  7. Now, *who* is he suing? by danbeck · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Let's just make something clear folks. This "unwritten law" he is talking about has been around for quite some time. He's suing the United States government here.. not Ashcroft. Ashcroft has had little to do with this particular piece of "unwritten law" other than he currently represents the justice department at this current time. This could easily have been a Bush Sr., Clinton, or other nomineee.

    You libs who love to hate Ashrcroft because he's a Christian... keep that in mind before you start knee jerking and complaining about how Ashcroft is the next anti-christ.

    er.. scratch that... you believe we came from monkeys... not a higher power.

  8. Don't give me that Ashcroft/Bush BS by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Come on. He is complaining about being ID'ed? I have been flying fairly regularly and as far as I can remember the airlines have been ID'ed people. Heck, I remember my younger brothers who were in Jr. High needing to get Photo IDs to go from Pittsburgh to LA and back to visit me in college back in '96.

    So what is the problem, other than an excuse to pull out some lame "Bush and Ashcroft are Nazis" routine.

    Brian Ellenberger