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Java Apache Admin Tool?

Posted by Cliff on from the thoughts-comments-and-random-opinions dept.

cant_get_a_good_nick asks: "I was trolling Sourceforge, and found NetLooney. Since there seemed to be interest in a quality Apache admin tool, I was wondering if anybody here had used it and can comment on it. It was commercial at one time, now iit's GPL'ed."

26 comments

  1. java based tool by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 1

    It looks pretty cool, and seems to work on my debian system. Doesn't look like anyone else has used it tho.

  2. More Config by droyad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The web page mentions that you may have to tweek the .cfg file to your apache server. Is it just me or does this just seem wrong.

    You have a "Serious" GUI config tool that configures something as complex as apache. Now you have to dive into the config file to change some settings so it works??

    Shouldn't this kind of config be GUI as well. Even though i don't particularly like windows, I don't think any windows based apps require the editing of a text file before you can run the program??

    Droyad

    1. Re:More Config by pcbob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You need to edit NetLoonies cfg file, not apaches!

    2. Re:More Config by 'The+'.$L3mm1ng · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, and this is exactly what's wrong here. Why edit the configuration file of a GUI configuration utility? If the author thinks he can write a good configuration utility for Apache, why not just add a few menu entries to configure the configuration program as well?

    3. Re:More Config by E1v!$ · · Score: 1

      You have a point you Bastard,

      Now I'm going to have to rewrite some apps!

    4. Re:More Config by pcbob · · Score: 1

      I agree with that (was too lazy to type it :), I just wanted to correct parent post that it's not as severe as having to adjust httpd.conf by hand so that netloonie could take over from there...

    5. Re:More Config by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Droyad said:
      "I don't think any windows based apps require the editing of a text file before you can run the program??"

      No, it edits the registry, the Config.sys, the IO.SYS, the Autoexec.bat, the Windows DLLs, EXE's, and reconfigures your user settings for you, automatically, in the worst settings possible.

      I think I would rather edit the CFG files myself, thank you Citizen Gates!

  3. Why do they choose self-defeating names? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2


    Looks like another excellent open source product with a looney name.

    Dictionary: Loon-y or loon-ey also lun-y Informal.adj. loon-i-er, loon-i-est. 1. Extremely foolish or silly. 2. Crazy; insane.n.pl. loon-ies also loon-eys. A foolish or crazy person.[Shortening and alteration (probably influenced by LOON1) of LUNATIC.]--loon'i-ly adv. --loon'i-ness n.

    Thesaurus: loon-y (loone). A person whose beliefs and actions are eccentric: crank, crackpot, cuckoo, flake, fruitcake (informal), kook (slang), loony, nut (slang), nut case (slang), nutter (British) (slang), oddball, queer fish, screwball (slang), weirdie (informal), weirdo (informal).

    Excerpted from American Heritage Talking Dictionary
    Copyright © 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

    1. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by dimator · · Score: 2

      Because, my friend, hackers don't know shit about marketing (and choosing a name for your project is a form of marketing). We should be thankful that it's not named "JApacheConfig" or some shit. I'm bored to tears of Ksomething, Gsomething, or Jsomething.

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      python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
    2. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a loony is also a $1 canadian coin. let's blame the canadians.

    3. Re:Why do they choose self-defeating names? by rgraham · · Score: 1

      In the case of an open-source project like this, good naming has nothing to do with marketing. I'm tired JThis and JThat too, but would JApacheConfig not describe exactly what the project is hoping to accomplish? Yes, it would. It's no different than using good variable names (i.e. the name describes what the variable represents) when programming.

  4. Lurking not trolling, right? by bastard42 · · Score: 1

    I mean you didn't hide under bridges and attack this project, right? You didn't create this project through goading the creator(s), eh? If you were trollin' why post to slashdot? (mmm.... better trolls.)

    I'm gettin' confused now. You can't troll sourceforge like slashdot.

    Ohh, you mean like fishing.

    Chr*st, sometimes overloaded statements mean nothing to me.

    1. Re:Lurking not trolling, right? by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ohh, you mean like fishing.

      Mmm, and I guess he really meant 'trawling'.

  5. Swing? by dimator · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Is anyone else sick and tired of that clunky Swing theme? (is it called Metal?) Can you even change Swing themes?

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    python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
    1. Re:Swing? by LizardKing · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can you even change Swing themes?

      Yup, the Metal theme isn't to everyone's taste. You can also select native Look and Feel, which I believe is the default on Windows. On Unix the native l&f mimics Motif, albeit badly. The MacOS l&f used to ship with the betas of Swing, but Apple pressured Sun into dropping it - but for a while I could fool people into thinking I was running a Mac app on my Unix box.

      A few people have attempted to create new l&f packages, most notably a NeXTSTEP one. But the major amount of work involved in producing a full l&f means few (if any) have been completed. At least that was the state of things last time I looked aroud for one.

    2. Re:Swing? by harmonica · · Score: 2

      There are some LAFs available. Personally, I like the Metal theme. Although the Windows LAF isn't perfect, I like it best.

  6. Just a sec. by AnalogBoy · · Score: 1, Troll

    It's java. *SCREAM*

    Thats better. I feel better now.

    AnalogBoy,
    Prejudiced against Java since '99, continuing till this day. It's expensive system processing wise.

    1. Re:Just a sec. by MockTurtleneck · · Score: 1

      Unless you type in characters per millisecond range, you waste plenty of cycles yourself!

    2. Re:Just a sec. by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but if i just think of starting the java executable, the load average on my servers jumps 2 whole points in anticipation.

    3. Re:Just a sec. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Java is a geat language it is the jres that can be slow. You should try the IBM jre it is great.

      --
      See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
    4. Re:Just a sec. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't you be starting up jre's all the time.

      A tomcat process, for example, isn't all that heavyweight, although it takes a while to start up. I might should make a comparison between a Tomcat-powered site, a PHP-backed one, and a mod_perl one on memory usage, though.

  7. Please say "proprietary", by sydb · · Score: 3, Informative

    not "commercial", as GPL software can be commercial too.

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    Yours Sincerely, Michael.
  8. Big Java Guy seeks Small Com to be Object of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey - sourceforge has message boards/a., right?

  9. ApacheConf? by PONA-Boy · · Score: 1

    I know, I know...it is ONLY a Windows application AND is shareware but it looks like another viable alternative...

    Personally, I am very happy to avoid using a Java utility...

    Check it here

    -PONA-

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