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Robots Go Spelunking

anakog writes "Yahoo! News runs a story about robots being used by the military in Afghanistan to search caves. The article features a few slides with pictures and comments. This seems to be the first time robots are used as tools for combat, although the article does not say if they have encountered any resistance yet. There is no mention of the manufacturer of the robots, however, I am fairly certain that they are the PackBots manufactured by IRobot. I happened to visit Real World Interface (which later merged with IRobot) a couple of years ago and saw the PackBots' predecessors, which were called Urban Robots. The company had a contract with the Department of Defence. As the name implies, the military were envisioning to use the robots to scan buildings in urban areas back then."

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  1. Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Dr.+JJJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The robots in this article appear to be remotely controlled by a human operator but I can't help think that over time these robots and their predecessors will be given limited autonomy to execute tasks, and perhaps even kill. So given that future (which I admit is unlikely), what happens if a bot fails to obey the oxymoronicly-titled but somehow accepted Law of Land Warfare? If this violation came to trial, who would stand accused of the crime?

    1. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Basje · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "The persons responsible should be the folks who designed the robot."

      I think this is the most ignorant I heard today. What you say is akin to saying dell would be responsible for me smashing someone's head in with this laptop. Or to saying that Einstein was to be held responsible for the Hiroshima bombing.

      Designers and manufacturerers are responsible for their products, but only as far as it's functionality: if it functions well, within their specifications, and not outside of those, that's it. It is (or at least should be) the responsibility of the person or organisation that uses/deploys them, that is responsible for the results. In that respect it's similar to a smart bomb.

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  2. Re:so by ComaVN · · Score: 3, Funny

    yes, but they have added a fourth one:
    4. Except if it looks like a terrorist.

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  3. Re:From the PDF: "Operating System: Linux" by JPriest · · Score: 3, Funny
    Any questions ?

    yes, what dependencies do I need to install guided-missle-system-0.98.5.i386.rpm?

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  4. Packbots Demo @ ALS Oakland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was privledged to see the Packbot demo'd at ALS in Oakland last year. It crawled down the stage stairs, back up the stairs, then off the stage, a 3.5-4 foot drop! They had a video clip of it running through a small "water hazard". It was completly submerged, and all you saw was the wake. Rather impressive.

  5. Perhaps not the first time... by pease1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This seems to be the first time robots are used as tools for combat...

    In WWII, the German army used a remote control tank that was filled with explosives and driven into a target. A photo is here (about half down the page).

    While not a true robot (I think these were control via wires), they were used in combat a good bit, including attacking landing craft during the D-Day invasion.

    Another German tank, the Borgward IV was a surviable remote control vehicle driven by radio and was used to lay mines, telephone wire and the likes.

  6. Israeli sapper robot by woolite · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Israeli sapper robot in action.

  7. spe�lunk�er by stux · · Score: 3, Informative

    spelunker n.

    One who explores caves chiefly as a hobby; a caver.

    [From obsolete spelunk, cave, from Middle English, from Old French spelunque, from Latin spelunca, from Greek spelunx.]

    spelunking n.

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  8. Same Robot Used to Search WTC site by Mad+Man · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was at Acroname's Robo02 robotics expo in Boulder, Colorado, earlier this year.

    Lt. Colonel John Blitch (US Army, Ret.), of the Center for Robotic Assisted Search and Rescue, brought one of the Packbots that had been used in Afghanistan to the expo for his presentation on robotic search and rescue. (The robot still had Afghan dirt all over it).

    A similar model was used, and lost, during the search at the World Trade Center site. Pictures of it at the WTC can be seen at http://www.csee.usf.edu/robotics/crasar/photoGalle ry.html.

  9. That thing has good specs by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    400G shock resistance, waterproof to 3 meters. And mechanically simple. I'm impressed.

    It's not just a teleoperator, either. It has sonars, GPS, and a magnetic compass. It ought to be able to retrace a route it's already taken.