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Robots Go Spelunking

anakog writes "Yahoo! News runs a story about robots being used by the military in Afghanistan to search caves. The article features a few slides with pictures and comments. This seems to be the first time robots are used as tools for combat, although the article does not say if they have encountered any resistance yet. There is no mention of the manufacturer of the robots, however, I am fairly certain that they are the PackBots manufactured by IRobot. I happened to visit Real World Interface (which later merged with IRobot) a couple of years ago and saw the PackBots' predecessors, which were called Urban Robots. The company had a contract with the Department of Defence. As the name implies, the military were envisioning to use the robots to scan buildings in urban areas back then."

130 comments

  1. POUET-POUET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    F1rst ?

  2. so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do these obey the 'three laws of robotics' or wot?

    1. Re:so by ComaVN · · Score: 3, Funny

      yes, but they have added a fourth one:
      4. Except if it looks like a terrorist.

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    2. Re:so by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      The three laws of robotics are science fiction. These are reality. Did you read the part of the article that said they could be mounted with grenade launchers, and shotguns? They are a lot closer to The Terminator than those "I will not harm a human being, nor through inaction allow a human being to be harmed" fairy tale robots. Hasta la vista, baby!

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    3. Re:so by ThereIsNoSporkNeo · · Score: 1

      You just can't go around shooting people!

      Why?

      You just can't!

      Why?

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    4. Re:so by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      They obey the "three laws of robotics" just as much as your car does, and for the same reasons.

  3. Robots are useless by Kj0n · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Everyone knows that nothing can beat a Jedi Knight in combat.

    1. Re:Robots are useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm.. you really drew a blank on that FP attempt huh? lol

    2. Re:Robots are useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cept diarrea

  4. Packbots by Ratface · · Score: 2, Redundant

    ... let me see, clicking the link in my robots.net Slashdot sidebar confirms that, yes - they are indeed iRobot Packbots. ;-)

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  5. From the PDF: "Operating System: Linux" by vladoman · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Any questions ?

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    1. Re:From the PDF: "Operating System: Linux" by JPriest · · Score: 3, Funny
      Any questions ?

      yes, what dependencies do I need to install guided-missle-system-0.98.5.i386.rpm?

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    2. Re:From the PDF: "Operating System: Linux" by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Check the sourceforge page at http://deathbots.sourceforge.net

  6. Other features by rushiferu · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I wonder how long until the army starts to attach other things besides cameras to these little bots. Chemical sensors, IR, guns, a few pounds of C4 and some roofing nails....

    1. Re:Other features by YouTalkinToMe · · Score: 2, Informative
      From the story:

      The four, $40,000 prototypes - Hermes, Professor, Thing and Fester - can hold up to 12 cameras, a grenade launcher and a 12-gauge shotgun. The robots operate on a sensor system and by wireless desktop control. They are fitted with a Global Positioning System, and can see themselves and each other on a map, ensuring more efficient searches. They run on 2, 6-pound rechargeable batteries that run one hour each.

      So they can already carry weapons.

    2. Re:Other features by rushiferu · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, the benefits of actually reading the *WHOLE* article suddenly become clear! Thanks.

    3. Re:Other features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No news.

      The German Army used a similar device called the Goliath in WWII. It was a tracked wire-operated platform carrying a 500lb TNT charge. It saw very limited use, but was an ingenious device nonetheless.

    4. Re:Other features by leuk_he · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      But did they find bin-laden??

    5. Re:Other features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I'm sure they found "ich bin laden" :-)

    6. Re:Other features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when does a GPS work when you are spelunking? Presumably they use it to orient themselves before going in, and use other forms of guidance (inertial, etc.) thereafter.

    7. Re:Other features by Hoeken · · Score: 1

      RTFA!

      The four, $40,000 prototypes -- Hermes, Professor, Thing and Fester -- can hold up to 12 cameras, a grenade launcher and a 12-gauge shotgun. The robots operate on a sensor system and by wireless desktop control. They are fitted with a Global Positioning System ( news - web sites), and can see themselves and each other on a map, ensuring more efficient searches. They run on 2, 6-pound rechargeable batteries that run one hour each.

      pretty fscking sweet if you ask me.

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    8. Re:Other features by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Hell yeah. There is something about imagining terrorists in a cave watching a robot that "just doesn't give a f**k" turn and point it's 12 gauge shotgun at you and fire. They may kill the robot, but we can just build more. The robots are fearless and i think it is sweet.

      That being said, as a caver myself, I could not imaging designing a robot to go into caves. I am sure Afganistan caves are different than the ones here (northwest US), but the caves here would be impossible for any track vehicle to operate in. They would drop of large cliffs, get stuck in water, would need to be able to scale very steep surfaces, and jump from rock to rock, etc.

      ALghough the Afgan caves sound like they are more like dug out bunkers. I am sure the US military knows WTF they are doing.

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    9. Re:Other features by BenLutgens · · Score: 1

      putting things like roofing nails on C4 wouldn't work too well, you'd need to "Tamp" the backside of the explosive so much to keep it from basically vaporizing the robot that it would hardly be able to move. and it would be an incredible waste of the 40K USD to do so, and also very impracticle since a single human could move much faster and quieter, place the explosive, then get himself somewhere safe for detonation.

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  7. robots vs terrorists by JPriest · · Score: 1

    I would like the see the terrorists vs the RoboCup bots in fight. You can go in with info-red mounted cameras and hydraulic stabilized guns, but there would be nothing cooler than watching a ton of 5 foot robots slug it out with 'em UFC style.

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  8. Really useful bots by gylle · · Score: 1

    I am actually considering electrolux's vacuum-cleaning robot. Does anyone have opinions on that one?

    What are other affordable and useful robots? I know only of the vacuum-cleaner and Husqwarna's lawn-mower.

    1. Re:Really useful bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please see http://www.personalrobots.com/home.html for another robot that "can vacuum". This isn't an endorsement, just a page I stumbled across a while ago.

    2. Re:Really useful bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Find a girlfriend... Unless you will be using the robot for dual purposes...

    3. Re:Really useful bots by gylle · · Score: 1

      I don't think my wife would like me having a girlfriend...

  9. what?? by ComaVN · · Score: 1

    a story about spelunking and no goatse post yet???

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    1. Re:what?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Try browsing at -1 for goatse-related info. It's truly amazing what crap live down there

  10. This is worrying... by D-Cypell · · Score: 1

    Didnt we learn anything from 'terminator'?

    1. Re:This is worrying... by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      "Didn't we learn anything from 'The Terminator'?"

      To make a movie instead of a slide show?
      To put bigger guns on the soldiers?
      To have a scene more interesting than bare ground with a couple of soldiers?

    2. Re:This is worrying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are formerly of CA right? I remember you. Where do you lurk these days?

  11. Real Battlebots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kewl.

  12. Bender by Viking+of+the+north · · Score: 1, Funny


    I am fairly certain that they are the PackBots manufactured by IRobot.

    Well I'm sure you are wrong. It is just Bender bending his way throug the caves

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  13. Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Dr.+JJJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The robots in this article appear to be remotely controlled by a human operator but I can't help think that over time these robots and their predecessors will be given limited autonomy to execute tasks, and perhaps even kill. So given that future (which I admit is unlikely), what happens if a bot fails to obey the oxymoronicly-titled but somehow accepted Law of Land Warfare? If this violation came to trial, who would stand accused of the crime?

    1. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by capt.Hij · · Score: 2
      The persons responsible should be the folks who designed the robot. Of course this would mean that they would have to anticipate every possible outcome. For instance one of the rules is the following:

      Also, apart from the baths and showers with which the camps shall be furnished, prisoners of war shall be provided with sufficient water and soap for their personal toilet and for washing their personal laundry; the necessary installations, facilities and time shall be granted them for that purpose. (GPW, art. 29.)

      Therefore combat robots should come equipped with showers and soap on a rope in order to properly care for their prisoners.

    2. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Of course, there would be the question if it was a malfunction, or if someone intentionally programmed/commanded it to do that very thing.

      Anyway, unless AI research makes much more progress, they'll certainly not put the robot on trial.

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    3. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Basje · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "The persons responsible should be the folks who designed the robot."

      I think this is the most ignorant I heard today. What you say is akin to saying dell would be responsible for me smashing someone's head in with this laptop. Or to saying that Einstein was to be held responsible for the Hiroshima bombing.

      Designers and manufacturerers are responsible for their products, but only as far as it's functionality: if it functions well, within their specifications, and not outside of those, that's it. It is (or at least should be) the responsibility of the person or organisation that uses/deploys them, that is responsible for the results. In that respect it's similar to a smart bomb.

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    4. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      What exactly did Einstein have to do with the bombing of Hiroshima? Nothing scientific that is for sure.

    5. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by ThereIsNoSporkNeo · · Score: 1

      Wait a second.

      You want to hold programmers responsible for the work they do?

      Oh. Damn. Talk about a bad precident.

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    6. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Talk about a bad precident.
      You leave Clinton out of this.

    7. Re:Can a Robot Commit a War Crime? by saider · · Score: 1

      If this violation came to trial, who would stand accused of the crime?
      The commander of the unit.

      My guess is that any robot squad will be commanded by somebody who approves the targets before they attack them. He or she would be responsible. If the robot engaged an unapproved target, it would be written up to the 'fog of war' or equipment malfunction, much like it is now when one of our JDAMs takes out a hospital.

      I was reading an article about the unmanned aircraft that are used in Afghanistan and the military mentioned that it is very keen on keeping people in the loop when it comes to firing weapons. They do not want the situation you describe because they do not want to give up the control over their forces. Commanders already have a long standing tradition of accepting responsibility for the actions of their units.

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  14. Re:Packbots - Selling Digital Cameras by capt.Hij · · Score: 2

    After viewing the yahoo "slidewhow" I had assumed that the article was just a cheesy way to sell digital cameras.

  15. Packbots Demo @ ALS Oakland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was privledged to see the Packbot demo'd at ALS in Oakland last year. It crawled down the stage stairs, back up the stairs, then off the stage, a 3.5-4 foot drop! They had a video clip of it running through a small "water hazard". It was completly submerged, and all you saw was the wake. Rather impressive.

  16. Time to worry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The same company, iRobot, makes these
    Dolls.

  17. Perhaps not the first time... by pease1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This seems to be the first time robots are used as tools for combat...

    In WWII, the German army used a remote control tank that was filled with explosives and driven into a target. A photo is here (about half down the page).

    While not a true robot (I think these were control via wires), they were used in combat a good bit, including attacking landing craft during the D-Day invasion.

    Another German tank, the Borgward IV was a surviable remote control vehicle driven by radio and was used to lay mines, telephone wire and the likes.

    1. Re:Perhaps not the first time... by mikewas · · Score: 2

      The robots described in this article don't seem to be true robots either. Their remote control is much more sophisticated than their WW2 German ancestors, they still lack autonomy.

      In addition, the modern military has been using flying robots extensivly: UAVs (Unmanned Air Vehicles) that were first used by the Israelis, have been in the US arsenal for decades and have seen action since the Gulf War.

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    2. Re:Perhaps not the first time... by jools33 · · Score: 1

      The brits have been using them to defuse / Disarm terrorist bombs for at least 2 decades.

    3. Re:Perhaps not the first time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the cruise missiles - autonomous machines that navigate through a hostile environment, therefore robots.

    4. Re:Perhaps not the first time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was in the army almost twenty years back we had these remote controlled mini-tanks for disarming suspect packages. The thing had a video camera and a shotgun. Drive up, aim, buckshot - lunch and Playboy magazine neutralised.

  18. Where are the "caving" elitists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...to tell us "spelunking" is a newbie term?

    1. Re:Where are the "caving" elitists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hi, im a caving elitist and spelunking is a newbie term.

  19. Afghan Military? by Charm · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    "Yahoo! News runs a story about robots being used by the military in Afghanistan to search caves.

    I'll think you'll find that it is the US military. The above quote is either ethnocentric or ambiguous.

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    1. Re:Afghan Military? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found it ethnocentric, rather than ambiguous. Of course, I am an American.

    2. Re:Afghan Military? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The above quote is either ethnocentric or ambiguous.

      Why can't it be both?

  20. Robots Go Spelunking!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Optimus hummed to himself rather tunelessly as he squirted out another glob of cleansing solvent onto his rag. He enjoyed this time of day, when the bustle of his troops would not commence for a few more hours and he had a few precious moments of peace.

    He reached up and adjusted the showerhead to spray directly on his chassis. The public shower room was much less comfortable than his personal grooming area, but for the moment there was nothing that could be done. His own shower unit was merely one item in a pile of work orders for maintenance. Optimus confessed to himself that it wasn't just that these showers were smaller and the showerhead had to be adjusted for each mech; it was the lack of privacy that bothered him. The stalls were open in the back and had only small partitions on the sides that concealed very little, since anyone could just look over the top. "I don't know how they do it," he murmured, thinking of those in the lower ranks that had to endure such conditions. He knew that they had become used to it quickly and probably didn't even think about it anymore, but he himself was a very private person and was self-conscious when naked around others.

    Prime groaned a bit as the warm liquid helped to loosen the tension in his knotted muscle cables. He rubbed the cleansing rag over his solid chest and sighed. Usually he just took a brisk tepid shower once every week or two, when Earth's particulate built up in his systems, but every now and then a leisurely warm shower was very nice. Alita was right, he should indulge himself more often. Relishing the sensations, he slipped the rag a bit lower, running it over his grillwork in even circular strokes. A flutter ran down his belly and he shivered deliciously, enjoying the sensations his body was giving him.

    He jumped suddenly as he heard someone enter, whistling softly. "Damn!" he cursed softly. Leave it to one of his soldiers to ruin the moment. He hung his head as his conscience pricked at him. He knew it was wrong of him to feel this way -- after all, it was their shower area and he was the intruder. 'Who would be up this early?' he wondered, turning slightly to see.

    A stocky young mech wandered into his field of vision, and Optimus had to clamp his vocalizer shut to seal in the gasp that rose to his lips. He was gorgeous! The newcomer was tall and solidly built, with a red and yellow paint job. He bore a vague resemblance to Hot Rod, which made Optimus wonder if they were somehow related. The mech's helmet was sculpted to fit snugly around his head, and his optics were a piercing blue. But that wasn't the half of it. Prime's gaze was drawn down the young mech's strong shoulders, over the thickly plated chest, to the powerful bulging thighs, then up to the rather large codpiece that lay between them. Optimus moaned softly and, without really thinking about it, moved his soapy rag down to his very warm interface, which twitched and jumped at the contact.

    'NO!' he berated himself as he felt his organ begin to rise. 'This is wrong of me! The poor mech just got here and already I'm sizing him up. He's one of my troops; I shouldn't be feeling this way.' He recognized the mech as one of a handful of soldiers that had been recently transferred off of a lonely outpost to Autobot City for extra training. Although he had never had the chance to formally introduce himself and speak to the newcomers, this one in particular had caught his gaze before. He always seemed to stand out, even in a crowd.

    "Primus, no!" he whispered as his cock stubbornly hardened underneath the rag. Although Alita had helped him accept his long-repressed bisexuality and even supported him after various male sexual encounters, he couldn't help feeling chagrined every time his body reacted to an alluring mech. Optimus cringed as the male glanced his way curiously, and he feigned washing his interface, rubbing the cleansing rag gently over the inflamed surface. He bit back an agonized moan as the sensations threatened to overwhelm him.

    The mech began softly whistling as he looked away and began slowly removing his armor plating. He smiled to himself as he continued to watch the illustrious leader out of the corner of his optic. He had been looking forward to meeting the Autobot leader, and though he hadn't pictured their first meeting in the shower area, he was not about to complain. He had seen many pictures of Optimus Prime and found the well-built male to be very sexy.

    "Say, that's the male that Alita told me about," Prime realized, forgetting his embarrassing arousal for the moment. He knew that this mech had instantly become very popular among the femmes, yet had ultimately disappointed them. From the moment his mate had laid eyes on the new arrival, Alita had gushed about how gorgeous he was and had concocted several "official" meetings in order to get to know him better. Optimus wasn't offended; they both knew that it was impossible to not look at the other sex, and their relationship wouldn't have survived so long if they got jealous each time the other's optics wandered. Still, he couldn't help bursting out laughing when Alita complained to him that the mech didn't even look at her body twice, and that the other femmes had tried their damndest to grab the new mech's attention and had gotten absolutely nowhere. Since they were used to getting whatever sex-starved mech they wanted, they took this as a personal affront.

    "Well, what's this?" the young mech asked himself as his optics ran over the shiny wet form of the large Autobot before him. He noticed that the large mech's hands seemed to be preoccupied with his interface. At first it just looked like he was giving it a wash, but his hands lingered over the surface, and his stance looked rather tense.... The newcomer looked closer... yep, he was positive he could make out a 'tent' concealed under that cloth. He couldn't bite back the grin that rose to his lips. He hadn't imagined that the illustrious Autobot leader's tastes ran that way, but he certainly wasn't about to complain. It was shaping up to be a very nice day, indeed!

    He giggled a bit behind his hand. Oh, how rude of him! He'd been standing there for several minutes and he'd neglected to introduce himself. "Hello there," he purred, biting back a smile as the red, white, and blue mech jumped guiltily.

    Prime suppressed the urge to cower in shame and replied, "Hello," then winced at the nervousness his vocalizer betrayed. "I'm Optimus Prime. I'm sorry I didn't have the opportunity to introduce myself sooner."

    "I'm Flamer," the young mech replied. "Don't worry about it, I know how busy you are. Sorry to intrude on your privacy though." 'NOT!' he grinned to himself. Before Optimus could react, Flamer stepped into his stall, hand outstretched. Prime clasped it in his own in a modified version of the human handshake. He flinched as his tingling cord began to stiffen even more, cursing his body and praying that the soldier wouldn't notice.

    Flamer had most definitely noticed and was openly ogling his leader's endowment. "Nice," he smirked. "Are you always half-stiff or are you just happy to see me?" Seeing the absolute horror in Prime's optics, he continued, "I, for one, am most definitely happy to see you."

    Those words managed to reach through the fog surrounding Optimus' CPU. In a daze, his optics roved down Flamer's sculpted belly to a cock that was rising to attention. The orange mech grinned. "It's only proper to salute my commanding officer. Now is there any way to kiss you, or do I have to improvise?"

    In a daze, Optimus reached up and unfastened his mask, slowly bringing it away from his face. Flamer grinned at the yummy vision that was revealed. "If I were you, I'd never cover up that handsome mug." Before Optimus could think of a reply, the young mech pulled him into a searing kiss.

    Prime moaned slightly as his lips made contact. He had trouble confessing it, but he loved kissing men. Their lips were firmer and less yielding than that of a femme, plus males tended to be more aggressive. His kiss grew rougher, challenging Flamer to keep up as he wrapping his arms around his new lover. Flamer pressed against him suggestively, always up for a sexual challenge.

    Prime groaned in disappointment as the luscious mech's lips left his own, but the feeling soon faded as they trailed down his neck. Flamer's oral probe slipped out and teased its way down his leader's firm chest. Optimus gasped as his erection extended to its fullest length, beckoning his new lover onward. "Ahhhhh, yes," he moaned softly.

    Flamer took his cue and slid his hands down the red Autobot's flat grill, past his waist, then teasingly down along his thighs. He couldn't hide his pleased grin when Optimus shifted his hips, encouraging contact with his swollen cock. "Getting a bit impatient, aren't we?" he chuckled softly, trying to ignore his own erection. "So," he said matter-of-factly, "what would you like? Hm?"

    Prime was momentarily stunned. He had a choice? He studied the delicious orange mech crouched by his feet, solvent spray making his armor glisten enticingly. He licked his lips, pondering. Mmm, where to begin? The proximity of his mouth to his cock was definitely giving him ideas. "Ohhh, blow me!" he gasped, praying his new partner wouldn't let him down.

    "As you command, sir!" Flamer chuckled. Never one to rush things, he started off slowly, licking the glistening tip of his leader's sizable erection. He smiled around his trophy as Prime's whimpers rose in pitch. He slowly slid the throbbing pole into his mouth, shuddering himself as the taste of precum filled his oral cavity. He couldn't believe this was happening! He, Flamer, was giving a blowjob to the most revered Autobot in history, and the one he had fantasized about for so long. The realization of his fantasies caused his restraint to snap, and he began deep-throating that magnificent organ like there was no tomorrow. His hand seized his own cock and began expertly stroking his fist down its quivering length.

    Optimus leaned back and braced himself against the wall, moaning in abandon as the skilled male performed one of the best blowjobs he'd ever had. Alita was certainly talented in that department, but somehow not even she could satisfy like a male who knew exactly what spots to hit and how it would feel. His legendary control was cracking as he pistoned his hips against the mouth that sucked him so eagerly. "Ahhh, mmm, yes, don't stop!" he begged, praying that the incredible sensations would go on forever. His cries took on an urgent note as he felt spasms beginning to seize him. "Ah god, I'm cumming!" he tried to warn his partner in case he didn't want to receive a mouth full of cum. However, Flamer just grinned and sheathed his cock inside his mouth, tickling the underside with his oral probe. That was the last bit of stimulation he needed to send him over the edge, and Optimus let go with an abandoned cry that echoed off the shower walls, writhing in ecstasy as his cock squirted down his delectable partner's eager throat, which swallowed every drop.

    At last the delicious tremors died away, and he shivered slightly as his cock deflated. Flamer gave it a thorough cleaning, then released it reluctantly. He stood, relishing the patter of solvent on his heated and unsatisfied body. "So, was it good for you?" he quipped. Optimus pulled him into a heated kiss, tasting his cum on the boy's mouth. "You know it was," he growled as he released his new toy. Prime studied the young mech, just now realizing how painfully hard he was. "My my, what a delicious sight! Can't let that marvelous erection go to waste, now can we?" he purred, relishing this sexual encounter very much. He didn't know what it was about this mech that enticed him, but it had to be something special, for his satisfied cock was already twitching back to life, ready for more fun. "Soooo," he whispered seductively in the mech's ear, "what would *you* like to do now?"

    Flamer's grin stretched to each audial. "I thought you'd never ask!" he smirked. "I've been admiring that tight rear of yours ever since I walked in. What do you say to a little backdoor action?" He waited breathlessly for a reply.

    The response was immediate and affirmative as Prime's interface sprang back to life. "Oh, Primus, that sounds incredible," Optimus whispered almost reverently. He loved taking a well-formed cock up his recharge port! There was nothing like it that a female could offer him. His wonderful mate had introduced him to the concept with a strap-on dildo, but nothing could compare to the searing warmth of an aroused interface pounding into his willing ass. Slowly he turned around and bent over, planting both hands against the shower wall for support. He spread his legs, providing a strong stance and also giving Flamer access to his recharge port.

    Flamer quivered in excitement as he was faced with the most beautiful sight in the world. How many times had he dreamed of slipping into that tight opening, only to wake up and find it was only a dream? Now he was faced with reality, and it was all he could do to keep from creaming himself and missing out on it. He balled up his fists, forcing his cock to behave. He wanted to make sure that Optimus was ready to accommodate his ample dimensions.

    Prime moaned erotically as the sexy mech began to lovingly caress his aft plating, slipping a finger into the somewhat small hole. He gasped, hips pumping of their own accord. Oh, Primus, he wanted this so badly! He knew now that he could never give this up. "Please, Flamer! Hurry! I can't stand the suspense!" he begged. He had already had one draining climax and already his body was clamoring for another.

    Flamer could no longer hold back as he positioned himself behind his leader's rear. His hand smoothed precum over the head of his phallus, making sure it was well-lubricated for his entry. He shuddered in anticipation as the tip rubbed against the opening, then, unable to bear the wait, plunged in to the hilt.

    Optimus cried out at the burning entry, half from lust and half from pain. The recharge port was designed to accommodate a small plug that provided energy, not a large and pistoning interface, but everyone knew that it could serve that purpose as well. Prime gasped as the pain gave way for searing lust. Flamer pounded eagerly into his rear, and Optimus felt every thrust of that mighty cock penetrating him. He threw back his head and cried out again. He had never thought that penetration, or having a cock buried within him, could feel so damned good! The pain subsided as his recharge port expanded slightly to allow for the large organ buried within. His control snapped and he pushed back with all his might, howling without restraint. "YES! Oh, god, fuck me please! I need it!" he begged, heedless of anything but the incredible sensations swamping his body.

    "You got it! Oh Primus, you're so tight!" Flamer panted as he thrust harder into the Autobot leader. He had never had such a fine piece of ass in his entire life, and he only regretted that he couldn't make this last forever. His mind cleared enough to realize that Prime's cock was painfully hard and unattended, for its owner was busy bracing himself against the wall for the leverage to thrust backwards.

    A strong orange hand gripped his straining erection, and Optimus outright screamed as his arousal threatened to make it explode. He was past coherent speech as he whimpered desperately, trying to spur on his talented lover riding him from behind. His neck arched, and he turned his face upward into the stream of solvent, the tickling sensation driving both of them insane. "MORE!" he growled, sensing the spasms from the cock buried up his aft and knowing that his lover was going to blow his load any second now.

    Flamer sobbed, overwhelmed by the divine sensations that wracked his body as he thrust with all of his might, feeling the pulsations in his cock and knowing his release was at hand. "Ah, Prime! Ooooh, yes!" he moaned as his cock could finally take no more and surged into orgasm, spraying fluid into the mighty Autobot leader like a high-pressure hose. The sensation of a young cock throbbing in ecstasy within him was more than he could take, and Optimus threw back his head and screamed his arousal, his lustful cry echoing throughout the room as his cock burst, shooting powerful streams of cum all over his lover's pumping hand and against the wall. He pumped his hips desperately, milking his orgasm for all it was worth, face screwed up in an expression of unimaginable release.

    He sighed as his release wound down, leaving his body throbbing in contentment. He couldn't remember the last time he had felt so satisfied. He heard similar sounds of contentment from Flamer as he gently pulled out of Prime's rear. The next few moments were spent in silence, the two gazing at each other as they bathed one another and took care of the telltale evidence of their tryst, such as Prime's cum sprayed on the wall.

    Prime sighed, this time in disappointment, as he checked his internal chronometer. "Time for me to go," he said sadly. "I enjoyed my time with you."

    "We'll have to do it again sometime," Flamer smirked, turning off the shower unit, then stepped out, looking for his armor.

    "That's an order!" Optimus said playfully as he suited up. He strode towards the door, then paused and looked back. "At ease, soldier," he said softly. "I look forward to sparring with you again."

    1. Re:Robots Go Spelunking!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope everyone else who read this post was as disgusted by it as I was. I've got nothing against gay porn, but gay Transformers porn is kind of perverted.

  21. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by iamwhatiseem · · Score: 1

    Just think - mabye they will feed the video of these bots running around to the media. Yeah... a LIVE show... with Geraldo doing the commentary... just think of the ratings when one of em blows someone away!! And we would get to see it!!
    Kewwll!!
    What would they name the show??
    Uh.. mabye Running CAVEman? (ooh, that sucked, someone come up with a better one)

  22. Israeli sapper robot by woolite · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Israeli sapper robot in action.

    1. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      What the BBC article misses, is, that the bomber was alive and that the robot was apparently used to kill him - not only turn him over.

      Gruesome pictures and a short desription here:
      http://www.ogrish.com/comment.php?id=182

    2. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Capt_Troy · · Score: 2

      I hope the robot was alright!

    3. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do a little further reading. Isn't the the guy they dragged down the block to turn him over and move him away from debris? They had to check that he wasn't boobytrapped or otherwise dangerous.

      He lived. What was left of him after the bomb he was wearing exploded.

    4. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just how gentle must one be toward a murderer who was willing to blow up his own body? Is it OK to blow them up, as that is what they wanted?

    5. Re:Israeli sapper robot by SPYvSPY · · Score: 2

      It should be noted that there is a big ass automatic shotgun on the end of that arm appendage. I think that sequence is so fucking cool, for a hundred different reasons. They should have shot that guy in the balls, though.

    6. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cool, btw That is one of the worst sigs I have ever seen on /.

    7. Re:Israeli sapper robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was ausome!!

  23. spe�lunk�er by stux · · Score: 3, Informative

    spelunker n.

    One who explores caves chiefly as a hobby; a caver.

    [From obsolete spelunk, cave, from Middle English, from Old French spelunque, from Latin spelunca, from Greek spelunx.]

    spelunking n.

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  24. Windows XP Advanced Combat Edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love to see how the ubiquitous Microsoft "Not responsible for anything resembling a failure" line would hold up in a war crimes trial, after an XP-ACE powered demolition unit inadvertently levels a hospital.

    1. Re:Windows XP Advanced Combat Edition by evilempireinc · · Score: 1

      hey! that hospital had it coming. They didn't sign onto licensing 6. Damn dirty pirates.

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  25. Lets hope the terrorists don't have cable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or they'll know all the weaknesses when Mauler 5150 or Nightmare come rolling into their cave.

    If they run into Whyachi though, we might have to send in some robotic shop vacs to clean up the mess.

  26. These were developed for urban areas? by God!+Awful · · Score: 2

    Clearly, what is called for here is semi-autonomous robotic spiders.

    -a

  27. About these iRobots... by altgrr · · Score: 1

    ...can you integrate them with your .Mac subscription?

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  28. World is catching up to sci fi by sunhou · · Score: 2

    Finally we are catching up to one of the standard elements of sci-fi. E.g. one current example involving the military, on Stargate SG-1 they usually send a robot probe through the gate first, to make sure the planet they are about to has an atmosphere and isn't full of enemies ready to shoot them as soon as they step through the gate. The Stargate robots are bigger though, since they are loaded with measuring devices. They also use small remote-controlled aircraft on Stargate, another thing the US military is starting to explore. (That's one reason I like Stargate -- it's very grounded in current real life.)

    Also, the guy in the third photo in the slides linked to in the article looks like he is wearing a Borg eyepiece. :-)

    1. Re:World is catching up to sci fi by vr · · Score: 2

      That's one reason I like Stargate -- it's very grounded in current real life.

      oh yeah.. Gua'oulds, travelling between dimensions, travelling faster than light, zappers that first stun, then kill and then disintegrates people.. all very current real life-ish. :)

  29. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by Wudbaer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ... just think of the ratings when one of em blows someone away!! And we would get to see it!!
    Kewwll!!


    Yeah. Unbelievably cool. Want to volunteer ?

  30. Just keep it away from Ally Sheedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Johnny 5 *is* alive!

  31. Yes but. by tsimboukis · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Can these make the difference between weddings and military camps? Oh, technology used by idiots is such a cool thing.

    1. Re:Yes but. by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      Not if the weddings involve shooting firearms into the air they are flying over at the time, no.

      But if an armed terrorist assult involves layer cake covered munitions and exploding champaigne bottles, that's perfectly ok, huh?

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  32. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by iamwhatiseem · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Uhhh.... Helloo??... Dude, I was being sarcastic.. you know - kidding, joking around, as in funny haha

  33. NOT NEWS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This shit is OLD and therefore not news. Bots have been used for demolition duties for YEARS! You shits need the lameness filter turned all the way up! It should be a Brainless filter! Blow me now!

  34. Robocode for the rich kid on the block by michael_mitton · · Score: 1

    So. Take a few of these handy dandy robots and merge them into the Robocode project from IBM ( Here ) and you could _really_ have some fun!

  35. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by Wudbaer · · Score: 1

    Well - then never mind. Obviously overlooked the irony tags. Sorry then :-)

  36. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

    Geraldo Rivera, eh? Searching for treasure in Al Queda's Vaults? Maybe he could send one of those robots back into Al Capone's Vaults, and maybe it would find something this time. For those too young to remember, it was the highest rated TV special of all time, and there was nothing in there. If Capone had ever used that hidden basement as a vault, he cleaned it out.

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  37. Once again, Slashdot fails to properly credit ... by ellisDtrails · · Score: 0

    ... sources. This is an AP story, that Yahoo placed on their news portal. Yahoo doesn't RUN any kind of stories. -- ellis

  38. GPS in a cave? by Lester67 · · Score: 1

    That struck me as a little odd, and unrealistic.

    1. Re:GPS in a cave? by laserjet · · Score: 2

      The robots would not use the GPS in the cave, obviously. They do have other means of navigation than from satellites, you know.

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  39. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by Rhombus · · Score: 0
    I remember that...I laughed my ass off when the door was opened and the place was empty.

    Geraldo deserves everything bad that happens to him.

  40. Discovery.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..channel had a good show on robots and how the military would use them. Hermes looks like the robot they were demoing on tv. The soldier just grabbed it by the handle and flung it over a wall and let it go searching. It seemed really durable.

    They also had these awesome little spy planes that fit inside a briefcase. To launch it, they had a little air piston that shot it into flight.

  41. I'm sorry, but I really can't let you do that Dave by geoswan · · Score: 2

    What happens when it is time to turn it off

  42. Don't you guys know anything? by SkyLeach · · Score: 2
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  43. Field Upgrade by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    If things can be fastened to it with bolts, welding, rope, or duct tape, it will carry weapons. It's a matter of what is needed and what can be done.

  44. Range must be limited by Hayzeus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they rely on GPS for navigation, the robots must not be able to get that far into the cave. For that matter, I imagine the video feed and wireless communications are a major limiting factor on the depth to which the robot can explore -- I know the robo-mining people have been trying to solve this problem for some time now. Sure, the military probably has some nifty alien technology and all, but a cave is a cave, and RF is RF. I'd guess the controller still needs to be reasonably close for this to work well. My own teleoperated robot is nowhere near as kewl (as the kids say) , but if there are enough requests, I'd be happy to install a grenade launcher.

  45. Re:Real Battlebots! - On TV!!! by iamwhatiseem · · Score: 1

    I certianly remember that, which is the precise reason in my post I used Geraldo, to make it even more ridiculous.

  46. Home of the brave????????? by pompomtom · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yanks crack me up!

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  47. Same Robot Used to Search WTC site by Mad+Man · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was at Acroname's Robo02 robotics expo in Boulder, Colorado, earlier this year.

    Lt. Colonel John Blitch (US Army, Ret.), of the Center for Robotic Assisted Search and Rescue, brought one of the Packbots that had been used in Afghanistan to the expo for his presentation on robotic search and rescue. (The robot still had Afghan dirt all over it).

    A similar model was used, and lost, during the search at the World Trade Center site. Pictures of it at the WTC can be seen at http://www.csee.usf.edu/robotics/crasar/photoGalle ry.html.

  48. it's a case of life mirroring... the simpsons by neonowl+jerm · · Score: 1

    The wars of the future will not be fought on the battlefield or at sea. They will be fought in spaceH^H^H^H^H^caves, or possibly on top of a very tall mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by small robots. And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: To build and maintain those robots. Thank you.

  49. PS - Two More Links by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    Re: Same Robot Used to Search WTC site

    Dammit, I forgot to include two links:

    Robo02: http://www.robo02.com/

    Acroname: http://www.acroname.com/

    Sorry about that...

  50. Can't legislate Linux away... by NeoNormal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    'cause it's helpin' Dubya fight "terroism".

    PS: I know how to spell it... I spelled it the way I hear TOO many people pronounce it... they make it rhyme with heroism.

    PPS: On topic since these bots run Linux.

  51. Danger, Will Robinson by phorm · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they could make something akin to those funky bots in either Matrix or Minority Report. A bunch of big ugly sqidbots would be scary. A hundred or so tiny little metallic spiders would equally strike fear into enemy hearts Yes, unrealistic, but an amusing thought... --------- Beware, the anal probe!

  52. Robots to do man's work?? by autof0zz · · Score: 1

    what the heck happened to good old bravery?

    1. Re:Robots to do man's work?? by Stonehand · · Score: 1

      Bravery != military brilliance. See Balaclava for an example, or the entire concept of infantry frontal assaults on trenches for another.

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    2. Re:Robots to do man's work?? by uberdave · · Score: 1

      Why send a man to do a machine's job?

    3. Re:Robots to do man's work?? by geigertube · · Score: 1

      Balaclava! I love that dessert! The flaky pastry, the honey, the butter.. Balaclava != military brilliance, balaclava = delicious!

    4. Re:Robots to do man's work?? by laserjet · · Score: 2

      mmmmmm...... baclava.... mmmmmmmm.... I love that stuff.

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  53. Technical name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The technical term for these robots is Tactical Unmanned Ground Vehicle (TUGV).

  54. Royalties for every sheet of stationery by ThatTallGuy · · Score: 1

    Waitaminnit... a company named for an Isaac Asimov book? Seems like an infringement to me...

  55. Robot! ... or radio controlled car? Zzzzz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's get this clear. Some guys sent a radio controled car with a camera on it into a cave.

    "It's history in the making".

    Is there actually anything novel happening here? Or is the U.S military actually just trying to manufacturer some good news to

    1. Justify funding
    2. Justify funding.

  56. That thing has good specs by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    400G shock resistance, waterproof to 3 meters. And mechanically simple. I'm impressed.

    It's not just a teleoperator, either. It has sonars, GPS, and a magnetic compass. It ought to be able to retrace a route it's already taken.

  57. Wrong programming. by uberdave · · Score: 1

    You'd probably want to get Davros to program them like his Daleks
    "Seek. Locate. Exterminate!"

  58. best! robot! ever! by Axeon · · Score: 1

    The real-life man-sized six-legged tree-harvesting freak used for commercial foresting.

  59. And the other side's robots? by Tablizer · · Score: 2


    When a Talabot dies in battle, does it get to link into 72 virgin Cray's in it's afterlife?

  60. Not REALLY robots by sneakerfish · · Score: 1
    Sorry, but I don't think these are _really_ robots. I mean, where is the autonomy? Do they do anything for themselves? According to the Yahoo article they are directed from a "wireless desktop control."

    IMHO these are merely remote controlled surveillance systems generously equipped with a grenade launcher and 12 gage shotgun.

    The buzz bombs of WWII were more autonomous than these and thus more like a true robot. In the same vein, cruise missiles are more autonomous and thus much more "robotic" to me.

    Don't believe the hype...

    1. Re:Not REALLY robots by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Robots don't have to do things for themselves. According to dictionary.com:

      robot: 1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.

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    2. Re:Not REALLY robots by loddington · · Score: 1

      So my remote control model car is actually a robot?

      How cool. Then I can tell people I've owned heaps of robots in the last 25 years.

      Seems to me the definition is somewhat lacking.

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  61. This is old news by rtblmyazz · · Score: 1

    Yosemite Sam did this in a cartoon. He was "Yosemite Sam of Outer Space" and used various robots to go into Bugs Bunny's home to root him out.

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  62. Grenade launchers and 12-gauge shotgun by cybermace5 · · Score: 2

    Nobody read the article and noticed this? People keep posting that they're wondering how long it will take for the Army to put weapons on these.

    The typical geek response to a robot is "Oh...HOW CUTE!" and run up to it to find out how it works. I think that a flotilla of shotgun-toting robots would change that response pretty quickly.

    So they're already armed. How long before we see lines of robots armed with shotguns and tear gas herding protestors, or quashing riots? Good or bad, you decide.

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    1. Re:Grenade launchers and 12-gauge shotgun by laserjet · · Score: 2

      How long before we see lines of robots armed with shotguns and tear gas herding protestors, or quashing riots? Good or bad, you decide.

      That all depends...

      If we have the robots on our side, good.

      If the robots are on the other side, bad... very bad!

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    2. Re:Grenade launchers and 12-gauge shotgun by geoswan · · Score: 2
      Dumb question. How does a 12-gauge shotgun compare with other shotguns? I used google to look up some web-sites. I gather that 16 gauge and other gauges, have smaller diameter barrels. I also read that there are various kinds or ammunition. "00", "buckshot", and according to this gun enthusiast's web-site, odd specialty ammunition, that fires bean-bags or incendiary charges. But I would welcome slashdot readers who know about this stuff to explain more fully what ammunition loads a shotgun weilding robot should use.

      I saw a show on TV about bomb-defusing robots, like the packbot, but a bit bigger. The show explained that they used to mount a shotgun, intended to blow apart the fuse mechanism of bombs. But these are replaced by these high powered squirt guns. They disrupt the fuse mechanism with a high-pressure, supersonic slug of water. This is less likely to set off the fuse than a shotgun blast. The squirt gun fired with a single boom, like a shotgun. It would be hard for a casual observer to distinguish it from a shotgun.

      Probably only lethal at extremely close range.

  63. Corporate Mission Statement by theSilentOne · · Score: 1

    From iRobot's website (http://www.irobot.com/corp/p02.asp):
    "Our Corporate Mission statement is fourfold, but simple: Make money, have fun, build cool stuff, and change the world."

    I feel so much safer now.

  64. Other advantages by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 1

    Other advantages:

    • Reports back via a code not used by the Alliance.
    • Self-destructs when shot with a blaster, so the technology won't fall into rebel hands.
    • Smart-search AI allows visual identification of power generators.
    • Capable of operating under conditions of extreme cold.

    In short, the Imperial Probe Droid is an excellent tool for uncovering hidden rebel bases.

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  65. Autonomous robotics at JPL by rossumtech · · Score: 1

    As part of the same program for which the packbots were developed, NASA's JPL has worked with iRobot on adding sensors and software to make more autonomous versions of these same platforms. My small company (Rossum Technologies) has been part of this effort for several years. Our 'urbie' version has stereo vision, omnidirectional cameras, laser range finder, infra-red cameras and more. Besides basic obstacle avoidance the robot is capable of autonomous stair climbing, visual-based navigation, leader-follower and others. Read more on JPL's web site

  66. LinusBIOS inside... by Dahamma · · Score: 1
    One of the LinuxBIOS developers mentioned that the PackBot uses LinuxBIOS (and I assume Linux)... I believe it's with a custom embedded Pentium-based motherboard...

    http://www.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/news/index.html# packbot2

  67. $40,000 ? by CRM+Slave · · Score: 0

    why not just use Lego Mindstorms? Just add a brick or two for weight. True, the shotgun's recoil would blow it to bits, but you just snap it back together...

  68. it got renamed... by SPYvSPY · · Score: 2

    ...the new name for bravery is "stupidity". Please update your records accordingly.

  69. OT: My sig by SPYvSPY · · Score: 2

    Thanks. It's from the idiotic ATMs in NYC. I think it sucks, too. I'll change it some day.

  70. Jedi mind tricks by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    So if the robot finds an Al-Qaeda member, does it say "These are not the droids you are looking for"?

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  71. ---not--- the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there are photos of a bomb robot dragging a palestinian by his legs down the road.
    i call that war, and i call it evil.

  72. Too Noisy? by ml10422 · · Score: 1

    They showed one of these robots on the TV news. It seemed to be pretty noisy. My first thought was that the Al Qaeda bad guys would be able to hear the robot sneaking up from several hundred yards away.

  73. Re: Robots Go Spelunking by cronicthebadger · · Score: 1
    > This seems to be the first time robots are used as tools for combat

    Not quite. Combat robots were first used in World War 2, on the Eastern front - the "Goliath" anti-tank weapon. The Germans used a remote control (wire guided) tank-buster robot which was, essentially, an armoured box with tracks and a bucketload of explosives. It was about 1.5m in length and about one half metre in height.

    The idea was that it be guided against Russian tanks then detonated. Although many hundreds were produced, it was not very successful, and the engineers could be found by soviet infantry who simply followed the cable trailing from the back of the machine.