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OpenGL Presentation at Siggraph Available
Visigothe writes "Siggraph has made available the Apple Quartz Extreme Demonstration PDF. The PDF has an overview of some interesting Quartz Extreme features, including the OpenGL calls that are made, as well as the new OpenGL extensions that Apple created for their upcoming Jaguar release. This is going to be a very interesting window system indeed!"
The .pdf didn't indicate (it's a PR/marketing piece,) so I'm assuming that the new extensions will be contributed to the OpenGL folks for inclusion. Is this correct? If so, a very nice contribution by the Apple folks!
.pdf are a true indication, then this is surely the bomb as concerns state-of-the-art desktop eye candy.
Compliments to the Apple folks on this work: If the screenshots in the
Sheesh, now I'm being nice to Apple. What's next, MS? Heh, very unlikely.
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I wonder if opengl games will now run quicker on mac os 10.2 because opengl will be native....300fps in quake3 sounds good to me :D
I've been saying for a while (ever since I first switched to OS X back in the 10.0.3 days) that the whole Aqua thing was mostly a placeholder. Every major shortcoming and non-sensical policy could be explained that way.
Why try to prevent theming? Because what was coming would utterly break any theming software imaginable.
Why the clunky Finder and Dock? Because they were mere halfway points in the journey, to get people used to a crude version of the real thing so that it wouldn't feel quite so alien when it finally arrives.
What journey? To a fully native OpenGL-based 3D windowing environment. Even this, Quartz Extreme, is just a small step along the way, but it's at this point that it starts becoming obvious. The magnification effect of the Dock isn't just cool eye candy, it's a 2D approximation of their long-term ideas.
Mark my words: This clunky 2D Aqua we've got now will be long gone in two years or less. In hindsight it will be obvious that it was just transitional. See how many bad design decisions you can explain away this way?
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theres plenty of good GLhackers out there, itll be interesting to se what they can do, mac kack 2003/4 will be prove interesting.
I want 2D games back.
"Put That There" was actually the original MIT Media Lab project into graphical interfaces, there's a picture of it in the old "Media Lab" book by Stewart Brand.
IBM's DreamSpace project (http://www.research.ibm.com/natural/dreamspace/) is almost exactly what you are talking about. It was demoed at several COMDEX shows as a whiz-bang application, you could use gestures and natural language to tell the computer what to do - "make that bigger, make it *this* big, move it over there, now rotate it this way."
It is now part of their larger LifeNet project for human interaction research.
It was, and is, developed by Dr. Mark Lucente.
"Hi. I'm Steve Jobs, and here at Apple we've done in 1 year or less what the Berlin Group has been trying to do for years now."
"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
actually i use linux, and btw what do you call macs early attempt at world domination. I hate ms, but ms got done what mac only attempted to do.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Let's see, reasonable prices... $299 for XP Pro Vs. $129 for Mac OS X.
Stability? Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, ok.
Multimedia Answers: Macintosh poses fewer problems than Windows
Why don't you just come out and say there's more software for you to pirate! Be honest now.
-- if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic - Lewis Carrol
Since $1600 worth of mac hardware will be outperformed on any given application by $800 worth of x86 hardware, You are paying $800 for the privlage of using OS X.
The problem scales badly too. The top end Dual G4 get's it's clock cleaned by $1500 worth of commodity x86 hardware. So on the high end, you end up paying a $2000 Apple$oft tax for OS X.
As long as you keep slobbering after each new shiny mac, reguardless of how outdated the hardware is, Jobs will continue to sell you crap and charge you extra for the "privlage".
For the good of apple, there needs to be a groundswell of dissent among the apple loyalists. When apple's fanatic user base stops shining Jobs' knob, he will decide to put some hardware reaserch and developement dollars into something besides a circuit to give the white LED power indicator 300 levels of fade.
Or you can predict apple's demise as their hardware becomes 3 years obsolete then 4. At this rate, in 5 years there will be a better processor in your microwave than in your computer.
If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.
There will always be people like you out there that just don't get it. You think that BMWs, Mercs and Audis are overpriced, because you can buy a Chrysler Neon and drop two stinking big turbos into it and "have a better car".
Go read that quoted journalist above - or take a look at ANY research on total cost of ownership. You pay more at first, but the machine is much cheaper and much easier to maintain.
My friend just spent 3 days at work trying to fix a Win2k a box he didn't want to have to format because it had certain server functions that he didn't want to have to replicate. Why? Because he needed to install a modem in it, and Win2k didn't want to play.
You save your $x up front. You pay later in time troubleshooting, grey hair and stress. Personally, I'd rather pay a little more up front and get a computer that works as advertised. like the rest of your article, you're speaking out of your ass. http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/31/pf/investing/q_te
That CNN article above called Apple a "Tech Survivor", or http://int.multexinvestor.com/Analysts/ArticleTIA
There's a good chance that the stock will start trading back up in coming months as investors anticipate Apple's next wave of products. And the current entry point, right above cash, looks mighty enticing.
You either don't understand, or you're trolling. Either way, go post your FUD somewhere else.
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I think that the best canadate for the next mouse is a optical system that can detect where you are looking. Like those cameras that you see advertised. Ideas?
No it wont, that's just you saying it, and you don't count for much.
The problem scales badly too.
Poorly, not badly. Remember, Mac users are more intelligent! ;)
The top end Dual G4 get's [gets] it's clock cleaned by $1500 worth of commodity x86 hardware. So on the high end, you end up paying a $2000 Apple$oft tax for OS X.
Whatever.
And you still have to use a poor excuse for an OS.
As long as you keep slobbering after each new shiny mac, reguardless [regardless] of how outdated the hardware is, Jobs will continue to sell you crap and charge you extra for the "privlage".[privilege]
As I said yesterday, I don't have to have each shiny new Mac, unlike you, who has to make up for your personality disorder by running out and buying the latest PC hardware, because it becomes obsolete in three weeks. ;) Also, I can afford Apple hardware, so I'm not too worried about it.
For the good of apple, there needs to be a groundswell of dissent among the apple loyalists. When apple's fanatic user base stops shining Jobs' knob, he will decide to put some hardware reaserch and developement [research and development] dollars into something besides a circuit to give the white LED power indicator 300 levels of fade.
Name a PC maker that spends as much as Apple does on R&D. I'll wait.
Or you can predict apple's demise as their hardware becomes 3 years obsolete then 4. At this rate, in 5 years there will be a better processor in your microwave than in your computer.
Unlike companies such as Dell and Gateway, who only have commodity hardware to sell, Apple is not just about their hardware. People purchase Macs because it's a system, and will keep purchasing them regardless. You can spend $16k on a Sun running at 800MHz... I don't hear you saying Sun is going out of business. The demise of Apple has been predicted by much smarter than the likes of you since the 1980's!
Yawn!! Why don't you do some R&D on spelling and grammar!
-- if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic - Lewis Carrol
Where's Java3D? Where's a steenking measely VRML viewer for OS X? Before you say Cortona, try using it with something other than IE. I would much rather off-load VRML to a stand-alone viewer than rely on a Microsoft-only solution. The OpenGL integration is great, and I'm definitely looking forward to using it on my TiBook, but I really wish more attention was paid to supporting those other existing technologies.
Even if that were actually true, what is it that makes you relate processor performance to application performance, or any of the other hardware in the system? Not to mention, your performance?
Frankly, maybe I would pay double for a system that doesn't jerk me off, so to speak.
As long as you keep slobbering after each new shiny mac, reguardless of how outdated the hardware is, Jobs will continue to sell you crap and charge you extra for the "privlage".
See above point. Check your definition of 'outdated'.
For the good of apple, there needs to be a groundswell of dissent among the apple loyalists. When apple's fanatic user base stops shining Jobs' knob, he will decide to put some hardware reaserch and developement dollars into something besides a circuit to give the white LED power indicator 300 levels of fade.
Do you really think it took... never mind.
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Yes, they spent $1,000,000 giving the power LED 300 levels of fade while sleeping. Have you never been to Macworld? Jobs was so proud of that stupid LED while the G4 introduced was not any faster than the old 733 w/512k of cache. In fact, the only G4 faster than the 733/512 is the 1Ghz/256. Talk about really knowing how to shoot yourself in the foot.
If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.