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AT&T Broadband Introduces Tiered Pricing

Joey Patterson writes "It had to happen sooner or later. CNET reports that AT&T Broadband has introduced a tiered pricing plan called UltraLink (3 Mbps down/384 kbps up) for $79.99/month if you buy your own modem and $82.95/month if you lease one of theirs."

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  1. Is this bad? by Saib0t · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Could someone please explain why this is bad? I fail to understand...

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    1. Re:Is this bad? by jafac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This IS a good thing, as long as they don't gouge the fuck out of us - their previous stance was: cap and limit DSL to try to browbeat "power users" into a $600/mo. T1.

      That's fucking outrageous for someone who just wants to run a small webserver or do a little P2P, or their own sendmail server.

      This is much more fair, as long as they don't say; kick T1 up to $1000/mo, high grade (business) DSL to $600/mo (because they can), midrange (power user) DSL to $300/mo, and home-user DSL to $100/mo. Which is where it looks like it's headed, since even the home-users aren't going to suffer some of the limitations that the Cable assholes slap on customers at $49/mo.

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    2. Re:Is this bad? by StupidKatz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you need more than 384kbps up? If you wanna run a warez server, buy a T1. :P

      The big deal should be whether or not they put restrictions on what you can do with that 384. (I have 128 and run a full suite of services, tho obviously I'm not serving more than a half-dozen people.) "Give us our 384 and begone!" should be our battlecry. Since an ISP is an Internet Service Provider, that's all they should do: take your money, give you the line, and shut up.

    3. Re:Is this bad? by Sir+Joltalot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree.. but in a sense I feel it's a bit like trying to "stuff the genie back in the bottle" - where my parents live they get 5mbit down/512kbit up for $40 Canuck bucks per month. That's like $25 Yank bucks. After getting used to that, suddenly being told that for "guaranteed bandwidth" (i.e. they won't bitch if you d/l or up/l lots) you have to pay a lot more (usually about twice as much) does kinda stink. The cable company where my parents live is Shaw, and as far as I know they don't have any plans to do so right now, but they always could. Another cable company in Canada, Rogers, is doing this kind of thing I think, and I think they had similar bandwidth for $45 Canuck bucks a month, and now want $80 or something that's almost twice as much.

      I also have a problem with how broadband is advertised; you always see commercials of people watching streaming videos or teleconferencing, or other bandwidth-intensive things. If you actually use your broadband that way though, chances are increasing these days that your cable/xDSL company will come after you for "heavy use" and tell you to upgrade to their "power user" super-duper thingamajig broadband. I'd have less of a problem with this if broadband companies stuck to fast web browsing and less misleading things in their advertising of the "normal" broadband services.

      Meh, my two bits...

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  2. That ain't bad! by swordboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It had to happen sooner or later.

    You make this sound like a bad thing. As long as it doesn't affect my current service, I like having the option of jumping up a notch in performance.

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  3. What is the big deal? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jesus! You people whine too much. At least they're not charging per bit, like just about every other country on the planet does.

    For better service, in the real world, you do have to pay more. To me, this sounds like a good deal.

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  4. Power users? by Ioldanach · · Score: 5, Insightful
    AT&T Broadband said UltraLink will serve power users, which it described as those who have "set up home networks, send or receive large files such as when downloading software, or enjoy other bandwidth-intensive applications."

    Why must providers always assume that someone who sets up a home network is a bandwidth hog? Personally, I have several computers on my home network. However, none of them hog bandwidth unless I'm downloading a system upgrade. It just happens that the best way to have everyone able to access e-mail and surf at once is to network the computers. (Duh)

    I'm on Time Warner Cable, and they prohibit servers. If they were to enforce that prohibition, would that mean their bandwidth usage would go down? I doubt it. How much e-mail does a normal, non-spamming personal e-mail server handle in a day? Come to think of it, the traffic isn't any more than I'd handle if I had to POP it all at once!

    1. Re:Power users? by Master+Bait · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Stupid and ignorant people with home networks could benefit from clever and informed cable network companies. Don't you understand that home networking is an economic opportunity for cable ISPs, rather than a trouble? The ISP COULD sell switches and install everything for profit. I have yet to see the government-supported monopolies that sell cable go much beyond a stupid minimal revise of the failed @home's Terms of Service, which was only a rewrite of old-fashioned dialup TOS.

      People want and need services that the government-supported cable monopolies are too lazy to supply. Some want fixed IP numbers, some want domain hosting. Some want fatter upstream, some want home networking, some want to serve their own email or web pages. Some don't want ISP-supplied webspace of ISP supplied POP email or a newsfeed. These are economic opportunities for ISPs in a free market, but competition in both cable and DSL is next to nothing, and this absurd level of service is our reward.

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  5. Yes! by mlknowle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is much better that they do it this way than a bandwidth cap / per MB charges. I'd much rather choose a connection speed / price tiered plan than be thinking about how many MBs I have used each month, tracking them like minutes on my cell phone plan.

    Tiered access is a reality; now hopefully they will introduce a cheaper, low speed plan (like perhaps 500k u, 100k d, for $30/month)...

  6. The question: TOS by Jerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see the real question addressed in the article, which is, will this new service have a different TOS agreement (Terms Of Service) then the current service? I'm annoyed enough at being told that I can't run servers, regardless of the bandwidth. I simply will not pay more then I pay now, and still be told that I can run servers, can't VPN, can't this, can't that, can't do anything but consume. (Yes, I tweak the rules with the SSH server that can do anything, but I shouldn't have to.)

    On that topic, anybody noticed how almost all of the nasty trends lately that annoy Slashdot denizens boil down to making laws about enforcing the easy things, rather then the illegal things? Instead of enforcing theft laws, make it illegal to change phone ID numbers.... it's easier. Instead of enforcing bandwidth usage (the real money-eater for an ISP), enforce server bans... it's easier. Don't enforce piracy laws, make it illegal to create or use DeCSS and enforce those laws.... it's easier.

    I wrote an essay that tangentially touched this issue in the context of automated enforcement a few months ago, but I think the problem is extending out from there. Enforcers of all kind (not just law, AT&T enforces a contract) are getting lazy, and making laws/contracts to help them be lazy.

  7. It's called marketing... by sterno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While certainly those who set up home networks are more likely to be tech savvy and more likely to use more bandwidth, this is also about marketing. You call up AT&T and have a conversation like this:

    You: Hi, I wants me some Internet
    ATT: Alright, fine, would you like to use our basic plan or our ultralink plan?
    You: Ummmm, what's ultralink?
    ATT: Ultralink is a service we provide that provides the bandwidth that home networks demand.

    Average customer, at this point, will probably think that if they are planning to set up a home network, they'll need whatever this service provides and pay the extra money.

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  8. Good by Fascist+Christ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This actually makes sense to me. (Don't flame me for taking a different opinion)

    First of all, the way it was set up before was not fair. My mom, who uses the internet only to send email (that's all she knows how to do with it anyway) would be paying the same amount that I would be paying to play online video games, downloading whatever into My Pants, and transfering whatever to whoever (and all that pr0n when my wife is away) et cetera et cetera.

    Yeah yeah, I know: if she wants to just send email, then she should use dial-up. But she shouldn't have to. Dial-up is a totally different service, requiring tying up your phone line or paying for another phone line. On top of that, it requires you to (duh) dial out - a concept to complicated for my mother. She needs it Always On.

    The way I see it, she has been paying to support bandwith hogs like myself (and I am not as bad a hog as many others are - I haven't networked computers at home since I left my college roomates).

    I would honestly be more worried about their Networking Policy (you need to pay for additional IP addresses, etc.) than to complain about not getting a free ride anymore.

    [FYI: I find it compelling to add another tidbit on the irrationality of my parents. They are paying AOL dial-up, Earthlink dial-up, MSN dial-up, and Comcast cable internet. They only use the cable. I have told them twice to get rid of those they don't use. "But we use Earthlink - that's what comes up (reffering to their home page) when we go online (reffering to opening IE).]

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  9. Hey wait a minute... by gabec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't AT&T the company that was appending a $7 service charge if you used your own modem?? (see this story from slashdot.) What happened with that, did they get harassed into submission or something?

  10. Where do the bandwidth providers... by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    get their bandwidth from? What I really want to know is why pricing of T1 lines has remained amazingly static since, oh, 1996. I figured by now T1's would be installed in new housing and cost under $100 a month. I realized back then gains in networking wouldn't be like the gains in CPU speed(remember back in 1996 a "good" computer was a Pentium 133 with 16MB or RAM), but I figured there would be at least some improvement every year.

    Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Bandwidth is still every bit as expensive as it was when we were still using 486's and first gen Pentiums. No wonder the internet never took off like it should have. As I recall, many of the pie-in-the-sky projections for the dot-com companies were based on the assumption that everyone would soon have high speed bandwidth. Based on the last six years I would have to project that the internet will never see significant bandwidth gains.

    Why? Because if computing and home network power continues to increase as it has, while internet connection speeds remain static, the internet itself will become more and more useless. Our own personal networks will be faster and contain more information, so why bother?

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  11. Definition of broadband..? by EdMcMan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    AT&T Broadband said UltraLink will serve power users, which it described as those who have "set up home networks, send or receive large files such as when downloading software, or enjoy other bandwidth-intensive applications."

    Isn't that what broadband is for in the first place? Why should you have to 'upgrade' your broadband just to get what you should be anyway?