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AT&T Broadband Introduces Tiered Pricing

Joey Patterson writes "It had to happen sooner or later. CNET reports that AT&T Broadband has introduced a tiered pricing plan called UltraLink (3 Mbps down/384 kbps up) for $79.99/month if you buy your own modem and $82.95/month if you lease one of theirs."

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  1. Faster isn't necessarily what the next step is... by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Honestly, my cablemodem is plenty fast enough for me. I'd like to know of a cheap alternative to having a static IP, and allow more than 2 machines to access the internet without anything fancy going on on my end.

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  2. Wow,... by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was really hoping this could be a way of getting good, quality based pricing but I guess it's just going to become a way to charge a busload of money... ...although for $82 a month I should get some legal mp3's or local TV streaming for free or something. The mention of being able to set-up home networks is nice though, I'll wait for that story next (that is when they shut those down)

  3. Change of tune by dfenstrate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    AT&T Broadband said UltraLink will serve power users, which it described as those who have "set up home networks, send or receive large files such as when downloading software, or enjoy other bandwidth-intensive applications."

    This is a change from the usual tone of set up a home network and die. Of course, you are paying much more for the privilege. My question, then, is if they give you more IP addresses too.

    Currently, me and my roomate use ATT, and we pay them another $10 a month for a second IP. Not sure if there's any bandwidth increase with that; probably not.

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  4. Compare it to DSL prices by PhotonSphere · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With SBC I am paying $159/Month for 6Mbit down / 384k up aDSL line. This is with 5 static IPs and a very loose AUP. I'd like to see what AT&T Broadband's Terms of Service look like for this new service level, but I don't think that the price is bad at all...

  5. Re:Is this bad? by soapvox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I actually don't think it is bad at all. I run servers so I need the upstream and realize I am more than the average customer so I should pay more for a premium service, but along with that I hope I get premium customer service on thier end (not sure if that is the case or not). This way I can run my servers and not have to pay business prices!

  6. I ache for a little more... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The 384 cap, though much better than it was, still leaves me aching.

    I wish I could do a 2 meg down 1 meg up. I'd pay $80 a month for that RIGHT NOW.

  7. 3.5Mbps for $32/month by red_gnom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In Canada, company called AEI offers 3.5 Mbps download speed and 800 Kbps upload speed ADSL for $50 Canadian/month (US$32).

    The link is over here here

  8. Know what'd be nice...? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... What if the $80 a month charge means that they won't complain if you use bandwidth intensive stuff like P2P. If they'd put in the ToS "You can max out the connection 24/7 without fear of being disconnected or having ports blocked.", it may be worth $80 a month.

    I already pay $55 a month now. If paying $80 would guarantee those clauses in my ToS for as long as I'm a subscriber, I'd probably go for it.

  9. Hey, how about $14.50/hour for 2400baud! by jgsfcaus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh how quickly people forget the early days of being online...text based bbs software, arcane keywords and CompuServe with tiered access pricing:
    300 baud 6.50/hr 2400 baud 14.50/hr (prices are in 1982 dollars, so let's say roughly double for 2002 dollars?) Sign me up!

    Then the world was invaded by the likes of PCLink, the Commodore 64 version of PCLink and the Mac based version which bore the same name that these three companies were known as once they merged in the mid 80s...AOL. Now downloading new artwork at 2400 baud, only 30 minutes left to go...but aint it pretty!

    Hey, at least they aren't rolling out METERED BANDWIDTH pricing ... at least yet...

    And funny how they chose 3Mbps for the enhanced services...similar to RCN in it's fiber network markets...however, RCN didn't raise its price one cent. Still appx. $40/mo in my bundle from them...that includes modem rental.

    However, I daresay that AT&T may have difficulties consistently delivering the higher speeds as their digital network nodes are already overcrowded causing traffic jams and more general angst in the world....

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    1. Re:Hey, how about $14.50/hour for 2400baud! by OneFix · · Score: 3, Interesting

      CompuServe with tiered access pricing:

      Actually, in most areas, CompuServe used a network of systems called Tymenet. The company has now turned to broadband...but I think one of the many National ISP Modem Pools took over their network. (yes, this is even used in the "internet age")

      Anyhow, Tymenet would charge an hourly maintainence fee to the online services and they would just pass on the costs to you. More than just CompuServe used them, I think AOL^H^H^HQ-Link even used them at one point. But I agree, this is really just adding a faster access speed to their "lineup". It's actually been happening for ever...when you buy DSL you can generally decide on the speed you want, normally something like 256/128 for dialup prices, 512/256 for about $15-$20 more, 1M/512 for a much higher price.

      At least that's what they've got around here...

    2. Re:Hey, how about $14.50/hour for 2400baud! by gmhowell · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Amen. Sometimes I think that the first experience most slashdotters had with being 'online' was in the 14.4k era. Very few remember the fun of war-dialing and looking for BBSes.

      They act like the 'dueling 56k standards' was a big deal. Lemmetellyu, nuthin' like the 9600 fight, or the earlier fights (ever wonder why modems have like 27 different acronyms on the box or in the manual?)

      Oh, or remember actually have to know Hayes codes in order to get your modem to talk to a certain other modem?

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    3. Re:Hey, how about $14.50/hour for 2400baud! by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Hey, at least they aren't rolling out METERED BANDWIDTH pricing ... at least yet..."

      Metered bandwidth has been mentioned for a long time. It makes sense. You pay for electricity and water that way and it works great. You want to use more, you pay more. You want to save money, you conserve. The problem with metering is the fact that it would make people furious when they downloaded X-10's latest "illegally tape naked girls without their consent" pop-up ads. Those ads are bad enough, but when they cost you money I think people will openly revolt. I've gotten two telemarketer calls on my cell phone during the day and I was pissed. They would have to figure out a way to differentiate content you asked for and unsolicited content that wouldn't count towards your fees. Then 8 minutes later a 10K software program blocks all the content you aren't being charged for. Then 8 minutes after that, the remaining ad revenue supported sites go under.

      Instead of yelling at you for leaving the front door open, your dad could yell at you for leaving the firewall open. "I'm not paying to serve warez to the whole neighborhood, you know."

      -B

  10. Re:Faster isn't necessarily what the next step is. by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Set up your second computer using DHCP and then hardcode the numbers it gives. It's almost as good as static. So long as you don't power off for too long your address shouldn't chqange. PLus the DHCP server doesn't seem to mind if you milk more than one ip address (I think we had 5 at one time once) and as far as I can tell we have never been charged for additional IPs. I don't think their functional system is tied to the billing system. They expect you to be on the honor system with extra IPs.

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  11. Re:Is this bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ditto, why should I have to pay for bandwidth hogs? I do extensive browsing but rarely download anything except for RedHat's latest ISO's. I don't do the filesharing thing and my mp3's are ripped from CD's I own. No, I won't share them.

    Unlimited and equal access is great. But there is really little reason to make responsible users subsidize users with high bandwidth demands.

    I'd love to see tiered service:
    - 128k up/386k down for $20/mth
    - 386k up/1M down for $50/mth
    - whatever... >$70/mth

    On the other hand, I strongly disagree with dynamic limits, where ones b/w is reduced as a certain amoutn of data has been moved.

    Just my few pennys worth...

  12. Nice Idea, But... by SamBaughman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Look at their pricing. 1.5M/256K for $40ish, and 3M/384K for $80ish. Why didn't the upload rate double on the high-end offering?

    Oh yeah, we're consumers, not supposed to upload, share, or be creative, only eat the drivel provided for us. Why would we want to connect to our computer remotely? Or videoconference? Or share movies from our ReplayTVs?

  13. Re:Is this bad? by DrewK · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ATT already doesn't allow home users to run servers. It is unlikely they will do so under this new plan which seems to come from a desire to maximize the profit from their existing infrastructure and not to provide any enhanced service to their customers.

  14. Re:That ain't bad! by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Don't forget that ATTBI is trying to give itself to Comcast, who forbid any use of VPN on "residential" service. But Comcast doesn't offer a "commercial" service! This is the first step toward offering a (naturally, higher-priced) "service" where VPN will be allowed -- same crap, but you get to pay more! So yes, it will affect your current "service" in that Real Soon Now they'll either block VPN or cut you off if they detect it; or, more likely, bump you into the more expensive package if they detect it. For those of us who occasionally work from home, this is a Bad Thing, and it's a kick in the crotch after the wedgies of recent price increases.

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  15. But can you run your own servers? by PD · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I looked on the site and there wasn't a clear answer to that question.

    If you can't run your own servers, you basically have to eat what they dish out to you, and you're limited in what you can say. 10 megs for webspace - that's nothing. On my DirectTV DSL line I have a static IP for $49 a month. I have an 80 gig drive in my webserver. That's a whole lotta opinions that I can put on that drive.

  16. Re:Power users? by Sentry21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why must providers always assume that someone who sets up a home network is a bandwidth hog?

    One of the techs at Shaw Cable told me, long ago, that the reason they didn't support home networks is that people buy cheap, and don't understand the difference between a hub and a switch... so they buy a hub, because it's cheaper, and then all your lan data gets thrown to the cable modem, which dutifully passes it on to the upstream gateway, which then deals with (and disgards) it.

    While I'm not sure if this is necessarily applicable in all (any?) cases, it sounds like a good indicator of what's wrong - stupid or ignorant people doing networking badly. Networking can be a very finicky thing if it's not extremely well done, and it's easy for people to cause problems.

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  17. Re:1.5Mbps for $45.95/month by John+Courtland · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hell yeah, In Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, I have a basically Static IP, no downtime EVER. I've pushed 55KBps (440kbit) upstream, And have pulled stuff in at 400+KBps (3200kbit). I can't stress enough how cool this modem is. And for $47 (after tax) I am not wanting for more. They are even cool about me having a bunch of servers behind a NAT.

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  18. Re:1.5Mbps for $45.95/month by hendridm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > yeah dude, unlike Canadia, people live in the US

    Canadia? LOL, sometimes I feel ashamed to be a U.S. citizen. We can't even spell our flames right.

  19. Re:Wow - it's cheaper (less than half that) in Can by Kwikymart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am in British Columbia, and we have the same Telco here as in Alberta (Telus). Though I don't use Telus, I have friends that do. The bandwidth cap is not enforced at all. They just say they do so later down the road when they decide that people are leeching way too much they can implement it without much recoil from the users.

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  20. It happens to me :) by Algan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about 5000 down and 1000 up for $30?
    That's Optimum Online in NJ. When I read about the shit that's happening all over the country I start to believe I'm in freaking broadband heaven. Even if they double the price, I'd still be as happy as a clam....

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  21. Re:no servers by akvalentine · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I guess that I am lucky. The local company that I use allows me to run any services (except for streaming audio/video) that I want on my DSL line (640/320 w/static IP for $85/month) so long as it isn't for commercial gain and doesn't take up more than average amounts of traffic. Of course, since they don't define average traffic. . .

    I run a mail server, web server, ssh server and I NAT my internal network. I've never had any problems with them.

  22. What I want to know is... by confusion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What do the cable companies do with all the excess outbound capacity? At the endpoints of attbi or comcast or the like's networks, they are buying symmetric connections to the naps/pnaps. In the attbi example, both the old and the new service have about a 10 to 1 inbound to outbound ratio. That theoretically means that 90% of the outbound capacity is going unused.

  23. Short memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Do they somehow think I forgot that a year ago I was getting these speeds AND static IPs for $39.95, when their backbone was provided by @home?

    "This is a good thing" my ass.

  24. How about a package for gamers by azaze1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't mind the idea of varied prices for different bandwidth figures.... but what good does that do me if my current AT&T connection is utterly saturated already at a 1.5 mbit cap? What I'd like to see is some package that runs on a separate network that is NEVER oversubscribed, so that pings don't go from 20, to 40, to 200 on a whim. I don't need 3mbit downstream, heck I don't even need 1.5, I'd take 1mbit down, 256k up and pay a little bit more for it if I could be guaranteed that the network would be consistant, and never saturated.