Convert a PC Drive Bay to a Docking Station

Anonymous Coward writes "The Screen Savers are featuring a case mod worth looking at. This article describes how to create a docking station for your PDA out of a PC drive bay. The instructions are little hard to follow but looks feasible and the finished product is pretty slick."

Comments

Use that display

[philipsblows]

Why hide a perfectly good display on the PDA? Yes, this mod is slick, but I personally would like to see an attached display device show me info... much like LCD and other serial/parallel display case mods do now on the case itself.

Similar to this product, a PDA attached to a desktop machine (and a charger) could and should extend the usefulness of both. Maybe a game controller like that linked product, maybe a desktop clock, maybe weather updates, stock tickers, an mp3 playlist interface, etc etc.

Like I said, a slick mod, but seems slightly counterproductive. Not that there are many satellite display apps that work with many PDAs available presently, but I'm hopeful. With bluetooth catching on, it might happen.

Re:Use that display

[merc_sa]

part of the reason that I prefer the cradle on the desk is that I actually use the PDA while
it's sitting in the cradle. And given my palmOs device is a treo270, I need to see whether an
incoming call is from somebody that I want to talk to. Having the PDA stuck in a enclosure
even with a display outside would prove awkward, since the display won't be close to eye level
and will more than probably be under a desk.

The idea is technically sound but lacking in the useability department. Now a cradle that's
stable and clings to the side of the monitor like one of those page holders would save desktop
space and allow the PDA display to be visible.. that'd be something I'd consider since it'd be
convenient and lessen the chance of the cradle getting lost in the desktop clutter *grin*

Re:Use that display

[Oculus Habent]

Many PDAs now charge while in the cradle (not the Visor Deluxe in the article, though). While this doesn't prevent you from using your PDA, it means that many will need to leave theirs in the cradle, which (for me) is an uncomfortable place to use a handheld. I don't use it often, but the Palm Desktop software allows me access to all my sync'd data.

Re:Use that display

[Brento]

Similar to this [massworks.com] product, a PDA attached to a desktop machine (and a charger) could and should extend the usefulness of both. Maybe a game controller like that linked product, maybe a desktop clock, maybe weather updates, stock tickers, an mp3 playlist interface, etc etc.

There's plenty of apps like that out there. If you'd like an MP3 remote control for Windows there's Jukebox, or for Linux try GiantDisc. There's several others, but those are the best two - I've been doing a lot of research lately, since I'm building a in-car computer that uses my Kyocera 6035 combo Palm & phone as its remote control & main display.

Other suggestions for conversion

[Taco Cowboy]

1. The conversion of mouse to paperweight.

2. The conversion of old computer to doorstop.

3. The conversion of mousepad to non-skid, multipurpose pad on top of dashboard.

Anymore suggestions ?

Re:Other suggestions for conversion

[sharkey]

2. The conversion of old computer to doorstop

This one's easy:

1. Set BIOS to boot from CD.
2. Open CD-ROM.
3. Insert Windows XP CD.
4. Boot PC and follow on-screen instructions.

OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[Peridriga]

Who the hell has an extra drive bay to waste??

Re:OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[susano_otter]

I do. 3 External, 6 internal. And that's with 2 internal and 2 external drives already occupied. Just get a taller case, next time :)

Re:OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[flonker]

Cases get filled, no matter how big they are. All it takes is time.

I've got a machine with 6 PCI slots, all filled, three ISA slots, all filled, three internal bays, all filled, two 3 1/2" bays, only one filled, five external bays, all filled. And I had to take out some things, namely the 5 1/4" drive and (later) the CD jukebox.

<sigh> I guess it's time to upgrade to a server case for my desktop machine. Either that, or do that spray foam thing. hrmmmm...

Re:OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[flonker]

Well,

• ISA - sound card, NIC, tape backup card.
• PCI - Two video cards, modem, TV card, USB card, & spare IDE controller
• Internal bays - three HDDs, of course.
• 3 1/2" bay - floppy, of course
• External bays - Swappable IDE drive bay, DVD-ROM, CD-RW, tape backup, and a bay cooler to keep the whole mess from overheating.

Re:OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[Raptor CK]

Sweet Jeebus!

Two video cards *and* a TV card?? And a tape backup card on top of an IDE controller?

Modern video cards and SCSI are your friends, man. The modem should be excessive these days, but then again, I still keep an external around, "just in case."

Even so, I don't think I'll ever completely max out a case/motherboard like that.

Re:OMG?.. Selfish waste of resources.

[flonker]

Huh? Someone wasted mod points on my post? I thought it was off-topic enough that it didn't deserve my karma bonus.

Anyway, much of it is legacy stuff. The TV card is a dedicated TV input card. And I could probably get rid of most of the HDDs if I actually bought a decent one instead of scrounging 20 gig drives.

Plus it's gotten to the point that it's taken on a live of it's own. It's rock solid and runs much faster than any comparable machine. As a matter of fact, it runs faster than some "new" machines I use that are 10 times the MHz. And it never complains about lack of memory. It's truly a wonderous beast.

I love the pictures they show.

[Gravital.net]

Oh wait, they didn't show any. In all honesty, a PDA docking station doesn't take up that much room, it's no worse than one of my speakers. Why don't they just go back to making fish tanks out of old Mac monitors?

Re:I love the pictures they show.

[bwulf]

Maybe you should try clicking on some of the links in the article with pictures next time?

Re:I love the pictures they show.

[Gravital.net]

Dammit man! I dont' have time to be clicking on links. If the pictures aren't embedded in the article I'm not going to see them! =)

Subtle Flaw

[barberio]

Theres a small flaw in this design. Handspring and Palm cradles are designed so that you push the PDA in downwards then backwards to 'lock' in place. Not locking the PDA in place leaves you with non-secure connectors, and I've had computers reboot because of static discharge over 'not quite conected' PDAs in cradles. Since the 'bay' design only allows you to put the PDA in sideways without 'locking' it, this is a major problem.

Re:Subtle Flaw

[Brento]

Handspring and Palm cradles are designed so that you push the PDA in downwards then backwards to 'lock' in place. Not locking the PDA in place leaves you with non-secure connectors

I've got an M105 and a Kyocera 6035 combo Palm & phone, neither of which function like that. They just drop straight into the cradle, and you can lift them out with two fingers. Seems like it's the same as the bay design.

Re:Subtle Flaw

[Ravagin]

Eh? I've had a PalmIII form factor device of one sort or another for three years and never encounted this kind of cradle....

Re:Subtle Flaw

[CaptCosmic]

Not all of the Palms have this style cradle. The older palms had a simple drop in cradle which did nothing to lock them in. I know, I've knocked my Palm out of the cradle while it was syncing before.

The new palms (at least the m130 and m550) *do* lock into the cradle. They slide straight in and metal locking clips hook on to them. In order to get them out, you have to pull it forward to release the locking clips, then pull it out of the cradle.

Using this mod on one of the new Palms would be difficult, if not impossible.

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A solution to what problem?

[ascii]

"An external docking cradle for your PDA is good for portability, but it's a waste of valuable desk space. "

If a PDA dock roughly the size of a 3.5" disk counts as valuable deskspace that you'd go through the troubles of building the Quasimodo of all mods wouldn't a more obvious solution to the problem be to have gotten a bigger desk in the first place? Ofcourse you may have a hard time finding a desk at $30 but none the less - my Visor dock tugs neatly away underneath my monitor stand.

Pardon me, but this sounds more like a geeky excuse to get to mod things than the solution to any problem you may think of. Which ofcourse is fair enough; modding can be a fun activity.

The next thing: modding filecabinets to fit employee's (horisontally) because employee's are simply a waste of good valuable space.

Sorry for being lame.

Re:typical TSS mod:

[pimpybra]

Dude that's some hard core pansy talk right there. Warranties are for sissies.

a handy replacement for floppy drives

[Kusanagi]

Why not build this mod into the spot where the floppy drive used to be? I just tried it with my Cassiopeia E-125 (which is about the thickest PDA released in recent years) and it fits just fine. The cradle is a bit bulky but it hangs over niceley behind my hard drive, which is in the bay immediately below.

Great idea!

[Jethro]

I've been waiting for my Palm IIIc to die for AGES so I could upgrade to a Clie, but the damn thing's rock solid, even though I overclocked it to 40MHz! I figure if I overclock it, stick it in a really hot PC case right between two 7200RPM drives (docked so it doesn't turn off) and then do a find / -print, that might do it!

But I Use My PDA as a Desk Clock

[IHateEverybody]

With the "Stay On in Cradle" feature activated and using BigClock with a custom theme my Palm IIIc is the best looking desk clock I've ever owned.