Of course not. A lot of things seem best at the time - or can be cast as such. I'm just saying mass destruction was not quite out of their hands (though it took a bit more effort).
Which didn't stop the Athenians from deciding that when a city did not submit to them, an appropriate response was to send a ship to kill all the men, sell all the women and children into slavery, and raze the city.
If you want a slimmer and less all-encompassing read on the prominence of Greek seafaring, I heartily commend to you The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek by scholar Barry Cunliffe. If you're not from Marseille or a classics student, you might never of heard of Pytheas, an inhabitant of that same city (at that time a greek colony called Massalia) who not only ventured to the Ocean beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but charted the French Atlantic coast, the British isles, and explored as far north as Iceland and the Arctic Circle and as far east - maybe - as Denmark.
Unfortunately, his book, On the Ocean, burned at Alexandria and survives only in quoted fragments, so we have to guess from these fragments - which blessedly include his longitudinal readings - the specifics of his journey. Using a thorough knowledge of Greek seafaring and Mediterranean naval culture, as well as a good handle on archaeology, Cunliffe takes you along Pytheas's hypothetical route, introducing you to the ancient peoples of France, the British Isles, Norway, and Denmark (no one in Iceland yet, sorry).
It's a pretty compelling story, one that's not usually told, and Cunliffe makes it eminently readable and enjoyable. And if you're like me, it'll make you want to go read the "On the Ocean" fragments in the original Greek, in the hopes of gleaning another hidden secret of this amazing exploration.
But it was in a lot of cases structured as a mentor/tutor older man/younger man relationship - not just any two guys goin' at it. While I agree that the Greeks had a much more open mind about homosexuality, and that we as a society should be much more accepting of sexual minorities, I'm hesitant to cling to the Greeks as a perfect model of sexual equality. In most cities, women weren't even citizens.
And, yeah, fuckin' church, man.;) Speaking of church and state intersections, dig this. Yeesh.
to be a total nitpicky ass, that's not the headline, it's called the "lead" or "first paragraph." and i found the website a bit upsetting - dude couldn't even recycle all those bottles?
for all Ashcroft's conservativism, when he was in the GW hospital here in DC recently, I recall hearing from a doctor there that he could not believe Ashcroft was not an alcoholic, based on the condition he was in for. no facts to back that up or anything, but an amusing idea nonetheless. and frankly, i wouldn't be surprised; the more pious he seems in public, the more decadent he probably is in private. look at me, i'm american and cynical!
I don't even remember what the topic was, but at some panel at the Balticon/Worldcon many moons ago, a question was asked about Niven's Puppeteers, and as one panelist responded, Michael P Kube-McDowell (I think) started waving his arms around behind the speaker, opening and shutting his hands like puppeteer mouths. It was the oddest thing I have ever seen at a science fiction which, let's face it, is saying a lot.
the more T-Shirts you buy, the less often you need to do laundry.
Man, I own plenty of t-shirts. You want to really help me not have to do laundry? Sell slashdot brand underwear and socks in bulk. Every laundry cycle, that's what I run out of first. Or am I the only one?
(Yeah, slashdot undergarments, I'm sure the ladies dig that....)
While "claria" has several latin meanings involving shining brightly or being clear or bright, whitaker's Words also cites it as a "beetle infesting beehives."
Diebold seems to have manufactured the craptastic swipe-card machines that allow us to pay electronically to use the washing machines in our dormitory. I can barely get 75 cents to turn into an activated dryer; there's no fucking way I'm voting with something those clowns made.
That's always been my problem with it. I recall reading that the president was persuaded to promote this by his minister. It's a remnant of frightened, McCarthyist viewpoints that have no other lasting legacy in this country but fear and oppression.
It's the pledge of alliegiance to the country. It's what you say to make it clear that your devotion lies first with your country. By keeping "God" in it we say that you have to be religious to be an American, and if that's truly the case, I'm expatriating tomorrow.
Ooh, well played, sir/madam. I would not agree with that statement. I think it's this particular brand of profiting from death that gets me - something about betting on it.
Ny Times article (free reg, stop whining) says it's not just for the Middle East. In any event, while I support innovative ways of fighting terrorism (as opposed to wiretapping everyone and giving the president imperium, etc) the idea of making money off of death is exceptionally disturbing.
Says this is another idea from Admiral John Poindexter of, most recently, Total Information Awareness fame. Sounds like he might be a sick sick man.
Of course people still use NS4; that's why Netscape is still releasing patches to it. Also fortunately for developers, NS4's pitiful standards compliance allows it to be cut off from modern coding - "bells and whistles," as you put it - that makes the page unreadable.
The web is not about making a page look the same in all browsers. We're not talking print here. Most modern graphical browsers can be relied upon to render similarly, but that still leaves text browsers, screen readers, mobile devices, and - yes - obsolete browsers of various sorts. The point of xhtml/css standards design is to organize information to be accessible on all these platforms - and look nice on most of them, too.
All of which is not to say that NS4 should be ignored completely. Nothing is that black and white. It's critical for web content providers to look at their server logs and figure out what most of their visitors are using. If there's a large ns4 share, then take that into account. But if it's 2% of a high-traffic site, @include the stylesheet and explain to ns4 users on an unstyled page that they are in fact using an outdated browser.
Finally, xhtml/css is far from bells and whistles. Every single modern browser understands xhtml1 and css1 and most do a damn fine job of css2. NS4 still exists, and if it exists in force in your user base, pander to its failures - but for the majority of the web, it is a thing of the past and the only notice that should be taken of it in design is to make sure that it doesn't get served designs that will be unusable.
Which browser is that? IE6? IE6 is perfectly capable of rendering the vast majority of css-designed sites properly, despite some really stupid rendering bugs.
The state of affairs in browserdom today is such that tables should be a thing of the past. There is no longer any excuse to not implement CSS and XHTML.
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i thought a mook was, like, someone who listened to limp bizkit. i swear i read that in the new york times. which may explain something.
My first thought too, but I couldn't find it either. Reminds me of when the boys gave microsoft word an award, though
more importantly, will it a ffect Jabber's overall share of the IM market?
Of course not. A lot of things seem best at the time - or can be cast as such. I'm just saying mass destruction was not quite out of their hands (though it took a bit more effort).
come on, man! they host a dinner party!
Which didn't stop the Athenians from deciding that when a city did not submit to them, an appropriate response was to send a ship to kill all the men, sell all the women and children into slavery, and raze the city.
If you want a slimmer and less all-encompassing read on the prominence of Greek seafaring, I heartily commend to you The Extraordinary Voyage of Pytheas the Greek by scholar Barry Cunliffe. If you're not from Marseille or a classics student, you might never of heard of Pytheas, an inhabitant of that same city (at that time a greek colony called Massalia) who not only ventured to the Ocean beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but charted the French Atlantic coast, the British isles, and explored as far north as Iceland and the Arctic Circle and as far east - maybe - as Denmark.
Unfortunately, his book, On the Ocean, burned at Alexandria and survives only in quoted fragments, so we have to guess from these fragments - which blessedly include his longitudinal readings - the specifics of his journey. Using a thorough knowledge of Greek seafaring and Mediterranean naval culture, as well as a good handle on archaeology, Cunliffe takes you along Pytheas's hypothetical route, introducing you to the ancient peoples of France, the British Isles, Norway, and Denmark (no one in Iceland yet, sorry).
It's a pretty compelling story, one that's not usually told, and Cunliffe makes it eminently readable and enjoyable. And if you're like me, it'll make you want to go read the "On the Ocean" fragments in the original Greek, in the hopes of gleaning another hidden secret of this amazing exploration.
But it was in a lot of cases structured as a mentor/tutor older man/younger man relationship - not just any two guys goin' at it. While I agree that the Greeks had a much more open mind about homosexuality, and that we as a society should be much more accepting of sexual minorities, I'm hesitant to cling to the Greeks as a perfect model of sexual equality. In most cities, women weren't even citizens.
;) Speaking of church and state intersections, dig this. Yeesh.
And, yeah, fuckin' church, man.
to be a total nitpicky ass, that's not the headline, it's called the "lead" or "first paragraph." and i found the website a bit upsetting - dude couldn't even recycle all those bottles?
burn karma burn
disco inferno
for all Ashcroft's conservativism, when he was in the GW hospital here in DC recently, I recall hearing from a doctor there that he could not believe Ashcroft was not an alcoholic, based on the condition he was in for. no facts to back that up or anything, but an amusing idea nonetheless. and frankly, i wouldn't be surprised; the more pious he seems in public, the more decadent he probably is in private. look at me, i'm american and cynical!
I don't even remember what the topic was, but at some panel at the Balticon/Worldcon many moons ago, a question was asked about Niven's Puppeteers, and as one panelist responded, Michael P Kube-McDowell (I think) started waving his arms around behind the speaker, opening and shutting his hands like puppeteer mouths. It was the oddest thing I have ever seen at a science fiction which, let's face it, is saying a lot.
i hope some day to be rich enough that i can afford to buy a package of socks each week, wear them once, and then donate them to charity or something.
Man, I own plenty of t-shirts. You want to really help me not have to do laundry? Sell slashdot brand underwear and socks in bulk. Every laundry cycle, that's what I run out of first. Or am I the only one?
(Yeah, slashdot undergarments, I'm sure the ladies dig that....)
Ahh, I see. The most ultimate. As opposed to the less ultimate ones, such as the moderately ultimate and least ultimate.
talk about the penultimate x-box.
(heh also note the way the submitter just copied the webpage text and changed a few personal pronouns. i am in awe of such laziness.)
While "claria" has several latin meanings involving shining brightly or being clear or bright, whitaker's Words also cites it as a "beetle infesting beehives."
Niiiiice.
Diebold seems to have manufactured the craptastic swipe-card machines that allow us to pay electronically to use the washing machines in our dormitory. I can barely get 75 cents to turn into an activated dryer; there's no fucking way I'm voting with something those clowns made.
Wait, fuck, I live in Maryland.
That's always been my problem with it. I recall reading that the president was persuaded to promote this by his minister. It's a remnant of frightened, McCarthyist viewpoints that have no other lasting legacy in this country but fear and oppression.
It's the pledge of alliegiance to the country. It's what you say to make it clear that your devotion lies first with your country. By keeping "God" in it we say that you have to be religious to be an American, and if that's truly the case, I'm expatriating tomorrow.
So if I join the club I get access to all the contributors and translators? Like, I can make them mow my lawn and stuff?
Maybe, but you still need talent.... :)
Shit yes. Gimme a dozen shares in orbital ion cannon.
Do I what? Know something you don't? Well, maybe....
Ooh, well played, sir/madam. I would not agree with that statement. I think it's this particular brand of profiting from death that gets me - something about betting on it.
On the other hand... life insurance...? I dunno.
Hell no, man, I found the Iraq War just as disturbing! You keep preachin' it, brother/sister!
Ny Times article (free reg, stop whining) says it's not just for the Middle East. In any event, while I support innovative ways of fighting terrorism (as opposed to wiretapping everyone and giving the president imperium, etc) the idea of making money off of death is exceptionally disturbing.
Says this is another idea from Admiral John Poindexter of, most recently, Total Information Awareness fame. Sounds like he might be a sick sick man.
Of course people still use NS4; that's why Netscape is still releasing patches to it. Also fortunately for developers, NS4's pitiful standards compliance allows it to be cut off from modern coding - "bells and whistles," as you put it - that makes the page unreadable.
The web is not about making a page look the same in all browsers. We're not talking print here. Most modern graphical browsers can be relied upon to render similarly, but that still leaves text browsers, screen readers, mobile devices, and - yes - obsolete browsers of various sorts. The point of xhtml/css standards design is to organize information to be accessible on all these platforms - and look nice on most of them, too.
All of which is not to say that NS4 should be ignored completely. Nothing is that black and white. It's critical for web content providers to look at their server logs and figure out what most of their visitors are using. If there's a large ns4 share, then take that into account. But if it's 2% of a high-traffic site, @include the stylesheet and explain to ns4 users on an unstyled page that they are in fact using an outdated browser.
Finally, xhtml/css is far from bells and whistles. Every single modern browser understands xhtml1 and css1 and most do a damn fine job of css2. NS4 still exists, and if it exists in force in your user base, pander to its failures - but for the majority of the web, it is a thing of the past and the only notice that should be taken of it in design is to make sure that it doesn't get served designs that will be unusable.
Love,
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Which browser is that? IE6? IE6 is perfectly capable of rendering the vast majority of css-designed sites properly, despite some really stupid rendering bugs.
The state of affairs in browserdom today is such that tables should be a thing of the past. There is no longer any excuse to not implement CSS and XHTML.